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Building Simple Frameless Kitchen Cabinets with Pocket Screws - "Euro Style"
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- Опубликовано: 24 май 2019
- Building Simple Frameless Kitchen Cabinets with Pocket Screws - "Euro Style" I'm back in the shop of BNG Dayton between cabin trips I use some down time to build some kitchen base cabinets. It took 8 hours of labor and cost $300 in materials so far. This is really a pretty easy project that you can DIY if you have the right tools. I'm still trying to decide what kind of doors and drawer faces to make. See these cabinets installed in the off grid cabin here: • Setting up our Cabin K...
Plywood $ 150
Drawer hardware $100 (slides)
Hinges $25
Kreg screws $10
Edge Band $15
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38 years ago I made an 8 foot tall full wall Birch veneer cabinet unit with shelves and doors, stereo cabinet and fish tank section. I used the tape for the edges. But I never really liked the outcome. I switched on other projects to very thin finish strips of maple, glued, nailed and puttied. I was quite pleased with this change. A great video! Thanks so much. Beautiful work.
I also was not too happy with that veneer. I'll try what you did next time, I think that would look a lot better.
I love watching all your mistakes. You make me feel extremely competent.
I just love all your videos! Wish you lived near me, my son framed a 3 bedroom house up 23 years ago, 2/6 studding oak. I'm 77 years old and decided in Feb. to finish it and move into it. What a job! I have had to manually hammer it all and had to pre drill some, dang that 23 yr old oak is hard! LOL My only help has been a 9 year old great granddaughter, we have the downstairs almost finished, I even ran all the wiring, but haven't hooked them up yet. Blessings from TN
Thank you! That is very impressive Granni Anni keep up the good work!
Cutting a full sheet of plywood by yourself is a great job. I love the Kreg pocket hole jig!
Yea that outfeed table is a lifesaver, and the pocket jig is so clutch
Sorry I am 66 and don’t know what clutch means! Lol
I’ve drilled the holes on the wrong side using the Kreg jig more times then I’d like to admit lol. Thanks for keeping it real and not editing that out :)
no problem, thanks Dann
Gonna be beautiful.
😂 I love the “better to ask for forgiveness than permission” Let is know how pissed mama was lol
The cabinets turned out great. My plan is to build ours to. We will see how that goes.
On to the second video👍
Ohh yea to seek permission is to request denial...
@@50Acres once you get used to edge-banding, you'll like it ... & a designated "shop iron " will be a necessity... 😎👍☘🍺
The irony of the iron statue of limitations. Good luck with that.
haha!
Nice job on the cabinets
Thanks!
I bought a Kreg, oh... 20 years ago and it's helped me make a lot of stuff since. I like the one you have there, very versatile. And, in my experience, there is no statute of limitations when doing something your wife doesn't like. You can only hope the result outweighs the offense. Great cabinets. You're going to be a pro at those slides.
Thanks Todd, the Kreg is great isn't it? I didn't get in trouble either!
I love watching you. You might make a few errors but you always get there in the end, AND it always looks fantastic. I love the bed you did on the last video. I never had anyone show me how to do anything. I found out by trial and error. I just wish I was now younger and I think I would choose a different career path than what I had. I think I’m a frustrated wood worker, I think I would love that. Best of luck, love your kitchen too 🇬🇧
Thanks Doreen, hope you are trying your hand at some woodworking for yourself.
Your work shop looks amazing!
Nicely done sir. You got some skillz in that shop.
Thanks Jerry, I am learning a lot by trying stuff, it's fun.
Can't wait to get that far with my cabin...Looking good !
Thanks Rob
Oh i guess i missed this one well glad to see you did it yourself
Yea figured I would split it into two videos. In the shop stuff seems to be less popular so didn't want to make people sit through it if they don't like it.
Thanks 👍
I like the look of the cabinet. I know it will be amazing after you get the drawer fronts on.
Thank you!
LOL, my head was hurting trying to do the measurements for one drawer... I can only imagine on your project! They look great!
Thanks yea the story pole makes it much easier.
I build Cabinets for one of the biggest companies in the United States. Im happy to see you didn't go the easy route. But there's a few secrets you missed.
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I'm always trying to learn more! Was my first time making cabinets more or less.
Go explore different types of glues you'll find the secret.
dude if that was the first time ever doing that im impressed! that edgebanding works pretty good!
Thank you!
I've used the hotglue banding for a few projects. Wound up buying the wife a new iron :D
I recomend putting the banding on up front. In fact I will put the banding on before assembly and final tablesaw cut for width. Thus the thickness of the banding will not change the finished dimensions. As well, you can use a random orbit sander to make the edges of the banding blend in perfectly.
“That went surprisingly well.” You’re stealing my lines! 🤠
I usually screw up a few more things along the way...
Nice work. I used iron on edge banding on a Murphy bed I made 10 years ago. It is still stuck and looks great. Your cabinets will last forever.
Thanks Jeff, I think that stuff is stuck on there for the long haul.
If you precoat the board with white Elmer's glue lightly let it dry then the bond is stronger . Worked in factory that used alot of edgeband . If it gets damaged and you need to replace it just heat it with the iron and use a putty knife to get under and peal it off for easy replacement . Elmer's glue is heat activated after dry and water based for easy cleaning . Have fun I loved the job . "Deeds not words"
Thanks for that tip George, I will have to give that a try on the next project.
Mike you are becoming quite the cabinet maker! They look great to me! I need to get out my Kreg Pocket Jig... Haven't even used it yet. Maybe next time you're up my way you can teach me that, lol!
Thanks man I'd be happy to show you, it's really not too difficult a project with the right tools. A table saw helps but a nice track saw would be even better.
Wow…. I caught this looking for Kreg on plywood. Thanks Mike
Oh nice did it pop up in a search?
@@50Acres yes. I think it was Kreg attaching plywood. Or something like that. Back to that punch list. Gosh, I wish I was closer to help with your deadline.
Heard some GSBG in the background, Nice choice!
yay on being a youtube woodworker that doesn't talk slowly and incessantly, nice editing, nice work.
Ha ha thanks glad you enjoyed it.
Norm Abram is the guy! If you can get a hold of his videos, you won't be disappointed.
I love This Old House!
Norm is a God
They are good cabinets. We have kitchens like that in England 😁
Thanks Carol!
Watching you drop in the trimmer bit in the router, it didn't show if you lifted it back up a couple millimetres after it started pinching it... this is VERY important ... 🤔
Nice job... over here ,( in Ireland) we'd just buy sheets of melamine covered chipboard (particleboard ? ) of the correct width & its already edged .... cuts down (🙄😂) on a LOT of rip-cutting too ... its available in widths to do the uppers too, saves a lotta time. My favourite upper hanging method is french cleat... 🤗
Got yerself a nu sub my friend ...
😎👍☘🍺
Hi Peter, I think that I did do that, not sure, was looking back and, I didn't do the greatest job on this edit. I would love to be able to buy sheets in the right size, wow that would save a lot of time and effort. If you go towards the end of my video where I make a hearth and mantle for my fireplace, I use a French cleat to hang the mantle. Thanks for the sub I hope you continue to enjoy the videos.
@@50Acres 😎👍☘🍺
Pocket holes get a bad rap by some pros, but I like my kreig jig. I use it a lot with a bit of glue for a foolproof, strong joint. Well done.
Yea I'm with you. I don't see the point in getting super fancy on joinery that will almost never be seen.
There are a million young people saying, oh ya, my Great Grandma used to use one of those things to flatten clothes...Thanks for the great vids....
haha I should mount a rotary phone on the wall and see what happens!
great grandma probably used the made-of-iron irons that you had to set on the stove.
And then you pull out the "Norm Abrams" skills! LOL.....This entire episode had me looking for a New Yankee Workshop logo ;)
Hey thanks Sean appreciate it.
I apply edge-banding before I assemble cabinet. Makes edge banding easier and usually better looking
Great point!
Great video
Thanks!
Nice work, like the lack of pretense. Got another sub.
Thanks for the sub!
That story pole just made me 2% smarter. Can you share more details on how you went about it.
Man it’s really pretty easy i just measured everything out on a block. An even better way it to cut blocking for Every height leaving spaces for your sliders.
Normally as carpenters....we put the edge bending on before assembling the plates to a frame😎...try it out...the results will get better with this tecnique
That makes a lot of sense. I also got shavings in my drawer slides from routing the excess band material off.
@@50Acres Yeah the difference of the result is pretty big.Thatfor you've got the community😎
Another possibility would be to glue on a real wooden edge ....thats what we do to more expensive kitchen cabins...and you can do a miter joint where the edges come together...looks more natural and rustic...but you need to know how you want it to look like
Thing about getting an iron for the shop. You can pick one up really cheap at a thrift store.
yea I need to watch the yard sales
Nice work/video thanks for uploading 👍
thanks
Todd Snider for the win!
Love that guy
I use that same pocket hole jig. It does make things go faster.
I like that tool a lot
Very impressive work! I really like the look of the cabinets. Can't wait to see when it's all finished and the stove and sink are in.
Thanks same here!
Great share
Thanks!
Taking shape very nicely, Nice to see Sarah on the vid with some added humour 😂😎 , the whippoorwill sure can sing, I was up at our place this week for a couple days, nice to hear. All the thrushes and warblers we’re singing up a storm too!. What will you use for a counter top?, a slab?
Yes indeed they are singing up a storm. I plan to get a slab from the same place I bought all the wood for the trim, door and bed.
Not sure if someone mentioned this but if you do that edge banding before assembly it goes on easier at the corners and you won’t have overlap or gaps.
Definitely a good tip. I also got shavings in my soft close drawers doing it after.
Esta ficando muito bom.👍
Obrigado!
Edge banding blows! Use strips of real wood. Use a pinner to attach with glue and then use router to finish edges. More durable and long lasting. Nice pocket hole stuff though.
I definitely wish I had done that instead.
@@50Acres The other thing that I recently started to use is "Medex". "Medex® is a sustainable, moisture resistant, medium density fiberboard (MDF) panel utilizing a formaldehyde-free adhesive system and pre-consumer recycled wood fiber. Medex® is engineered for interior high moisture areas in non-structural applications and is used in place of sanded plywood or solid wood."
ITS COMING TOGETHER , GOOD JOB! HAVE YOU EVER DONE CABINETS BEFORE ?
Thanks Mad Greek, first cabinets for me.
At least your are doing it yourself, you are not seating on arse doing nothing or bying the items already made from Home depot... 😉
For a first time cabinet making you are doing great job 👍
Nice job for a first timer, you obviously do ur homework
normal kitchen cabinet, all pieces have standar size 60omm x 600mm. and can add how many need together.
Thanks for sharing. I noticed that you installed the track on the lowest point of the drawer. Is there any reason as i saw some install in the middle?
I just put them there because it seemed easiest to line up.
Edge band before assembly, they make trimmers for that...
Yea that is definitely what I will do next time.
That's quite a combo of your traditional window frames and doors along with the Euro Frameless cabinetry. Not quite sure how that was decided. 🤔
I have been contrasting cleaner lines on some of the stuff I made like the bed and some other stuff. I can still make any style of door I want for the fronts of those.
Looks great - are the drawers made of 3/4 plywood? I am doing something similar with no plans and have never done drawers before. How much smaller than the width of the opening should the drawers be? Thanks
Yes I believe they are. That spacing, I think it changes depending on the hardware you use but if I remember correctly the drawer needed to be 1/2 inch narrower than the opening.
a chisel or mini hand plane will trim down that edge banding pretty easily. dont think the router was really necessary
That would have worked great, at the time I made these, I almost never used any hand tools, now I use them all the time.
So did you get into trouble? Nice work brother thanks for sharing.. God Bless..
haha nope she wasn't mad.
It's nice to have the right tools for the job. Excellent job! How far away do you currently live from the cabin?
Thank you, it's over a 2 hour drive, wish it were closer.
Your cabinets turned out great. Kreg pocket tools are awesome. The soft close hinge is a very nice touch.
On another note, that is a silicone ring, right? About a year ago I went to a silicone wedding ring after cutting into my finger pretty badly with the titanium ring I was wearing. I will never wear a metal ring again. It's not worth injury to your finger and I recommend to anyone who works in a field where their ring could snag on something.
Hey thank you, yes it is a silicone ring, I am always working with power tools and it's just a lot safer, I like it a lot.
Good day
I would really like to know the:
1. Drawer hardware name you used,
2. The dimensions of the drawer and the cabinet, pretty please.
3. The instrument you used to mount the drawer slides.
Thank you.
Do you use the KREG screws with the jig or have you found any alternative screws meaning cheaper ?
You can pretty much use any screw the key is that it is the right length and also making sure you have an extra long drill bit. Dewalt makes the long bits I bought 4 of the most common screw heads so now I can pretty much use any screw I want.
Great job on those cabinets. Looks like they came together pretty quick. What kind of finish are you thinking about using on them?
Yea believe it or not the whole thing only took me 8 hours. I'm not sure what I will use to finish them.
Much easier to edge band before you assemble the pieces...
Yea, and you also don't get all the little shavings stuck in your drawer sliders!
Great video! What drawer slides did you use?
I can't remember, I think they are from Lowes.
At what height do you make the drawers
It depends on what I intend to put in them. I’ll actually get some of the stuff I want to store and make sure it fits with a bit of clearance. I can’t remember on these drawers.
Love how you are building everything for your cabin. I'm hoping to do the same thing but in my house. Was wondering where did you get your slides or what is the brand and model of them? Do you have any channels you recommend on a more in-depth look at how to design/build the cabinets to do a full kitchen? Including wall cabinets?
Thank you hennjj. I got my slides from the hardware section at Home Depot. I’m not sure offhand what brand but I think my local store only had 2 brand in stock and two different types. I think I got ones for frameless cabinets. I would strongly suggest a nice book from your local library for a more in depth look. I think it’s even better than RUclips for this. For a channel I really like Mike Farrington he’s not afraid to build things in a practical way. He does have a lot of specialty tools that we won’t have. But there is always a workaround.
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this plywood 18mm?
Yes it is plywood, mostly 3/4 inch so 19.05 mm.
"The stutes of limitations on getting in trouble"
It hadn’t expired!
Good job , you get a go past go and do not pay $200.00. to the Iron Goddess. Unless she threatens to hit you on the head with the Iron , all bets are off. See you next time. Tom in Mpls, MN 10/29/19
What thickness of plywood did you use?
I used 3/4 I think
Statute of Limitations for ANY offense committed by a man never expires for their wives!
so I found out!
My wife would tell me there is no statute of limitation, and do you want ice for the dent on your head?
haha yep, I did indeed get in minor trouble.
I love how there’s a total lack of instructions
Make several rectangles, fasten them together.
looks better installed at the cabin mate.rub candle wax on the iron she will never know trust me I know these things
haha thanks James!
We realy like your show an your work.
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Easier to edge band before assembly. Just sayin'!.
Yea, definitely
Mine works too. I used the Woodprix plans and performed it without any problems.