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  • @Counterpoints
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    • @bogdangabrielonete3467
      @bogdangabrielonete3467 Год назад +2

      Just one more thing I wanted to point out that we all missed. When the Chaplain shoots the DG who tried to shot Kazarion and he dodged, Raphael actually shoots his entire hand off, along with his gun. By the time Kazarion cuts off his other arm, that DG was already disarmed once, and now twice. Bloke can't get a break :^))

    • @nemiw4429
      @nemiw4429 10 месяцев назад

      Absolute disgusting behavior. Not including the source in the description, nor pinned comment. As max disrespect: start the video in a way the name, nor the URL is visible. Im not even a WH fan, but exactly ur stealing, thug behavior results in actions taken against comunities (by GW, or any brand).

    • @Counterpoints
      @Counterpoints  10 месяцев назад +1

      @@nemiw4429 it’s in the description you idiot

  • @byronritchie5449
    @byronritchie5449 Год назад +511

    I like how Raphael understands that many loyalists are quite capable of damning themselves but rather then use fear (at least not entirely) he actually inspires them to be loyal

    • @BeKindToBirds
      @BeKindToBirds Год назад +13

      I think this is up there with helsreach in terms of portrayal of chaplains.
      You can really imagine being an Astartes with a chaplain teaching you the lore of your blood.

  • @JohnnyFiction
    @JohnnyFiction Год назад +774

    While this was a great cinematic, I'm shocked at how far ahead the ASTARTES shorts were, even today, not only in aesthetic, but sound and action as well.

    • @loganross1861
      @loganross1861 Год назад +78

      Astartes is the best piece of sci-fi/Fantasy I’ve seen, period. It’s peerless. I’m very open and would love to know what else is out there, but seriously can’t think of anything in the same league.

    • @Issblodh
      @Issblodh Год назад +41

      That’s what happens if you don’t have execs breathing down the artists necks with useless advice, deadlines, plot changes, and whatnot.

    • @DOProductionsNL
      @DOProductionsNL Год назад +26

      Astartes managed to make me feel something close Transhuman Dread in the way it depicted the sheer brutality, speed and cunning of Space Marines. No other cinematic has yet achieved that. Leagues ahead.

    • @tsoliot5913
      @tsoliot5913 Год назад +1

      Is it even that old?

    • @ROIBR
      @ROIBR Год назад +5

      Well you cant really compare it, can you. Totally different Art Style and Story telling.
      Angels of Death was made from the Guy that made Helsreach. He got a Deal with GW as we all know.
      So i think its also very very Good both of them. Helsreach Style was, cause that Guy was a Newbie to Animations etc. He kept his Artstyle although improved with a Team on Angels of Death. Its just plain different than Astartes and has definetly its Charm!
      Astartes was single minded on Visuals and Sound. Not much of Story telling compared when it comes to Voicelines. It plays with your imaginaion. Although a Masterpiece, of course ^^

  • @Emperor-Justinius
    @Emperor-Justinius Год назад +417

    The Astartes creator nailed Space Marines even better than this, his depiction of them was fast, furious, accurate and strong. Their movements were crisp and precise, nothing sluggish about them. Astartes has done one of the best jobs ever seen, getting close to the lore.

    • @antejukic2249
      @antejukic2249 Год назад +8

      ON POINT!

    • @DaroriDerEinzige
      @DaroriDerEinzige Год назад +9

      Yeah but now we can pay GW even more money, isn't that great?

    • @Thabooka
      @Thabooka Год назад +29

      yeah Boylan (Angels of death director) says he thinks of space marines as walking slow moving tanks - which is contrary to lore of space marines - maybe to eldar but to everyone else they aew fast and swift - like in astartes

    • @hrishikeshgogoi8734
      @hrishikeshgogoi8734 Год назад +1

      Where can i watch astartes?

    • @Emperor-Justinius
      @Emperor-Justinius Год назад

      @@hrishikeshgogoi8734 it is still on youtube from various accounts, search it up

  • @IronRAVENxvx
    @IronRAVENxvx Год назад +141

    I haven't checked 40k content in a while and the smoothness of the animation is definitely an improvement!

    • @cogrunner6763
      @cogrunner6763 Год назад +7

      It is made by the same guy who did helsrech

    • @ZiGGi03
      @ZiGGi03 Год назад +2

      Agreed I still pay every month just incase. In the meantime I’ve listened to the herasy . The 2 final books will be out soon one end of this year .

    • @Caramelraver
      @Caramelraver Год назад

      ​@@ZiGGi03the end and the death is already out and its a blast to read! :)

  • @nah_bro_really
    @nah_bro_really Год назад +318

    They've finally figured out some of the animation tricks and techniques that made Astartes pop. So much better than the early animations!

    • @dildoswaggins2907
      @dildoswaggins2907 Год назад

      Only watched this now. Much much better 👍

    • @stevenbetter4255
      @stevenbetter4255 Год назад +2

      This actually looks like the team that made Astartes!

    • @bongodrumzz
      @bongodrumzz Год назад +6

      That's because Syama now works for games workshop .........

    • @sasquatchhadarock968
      @sasquatchhadarock968 Год назад +5

      Why encourage your fans to be personally invested when you can just coerce them to work for you

    • @dildoswaggins2907
      @dildoswaggins2907 Год назад +1

      Also I’m pretty sure the angels of death stuff is from Richard boylan who did helsreach. A lot of the initial sound assets were from his screen play. If you haven’t watched it I suggest you give it a go, very well done adaptation

  • @BitcoinMoonShot
    @BitcoinMoonShot Год назад +231

    "Fervour requires no forgiveness if it is tempered with discipline."
    Fucking Based.

    • @mohammadalirashed3103
      @mohammadalirashed3103 Год назад +2

      Can you explain what that means?

    • @travzac619
      @travzac619 Год назад +4

      A very wise and good quote to live by guaranteed.

    • @BitcoinMoonShot
      @BitcoinMoonShot Год назад +2

      @@mohammadalirashed3103 Tyberos the Carcharodon Chapter Master known as "The Red Wake" can explain it for me. "-"

    • @Leisurelee53
      @Leisurelee53 Год назад +21

      ​@mohammadalirashed3103 it is not a sin to commit to something.
      If what you commit to is restrained by a code.
      A killer can be skillful, intelligent, perfect. But if all of those actions are driven by a motive of evil . Selfishness, anger, unchained emotion, which is zeal. Than it is useless.
      Control is all that separates men from beasts.

    • @mohammadalirashed3103
      @mohammadalirashed3103 Год назад +2

      ah makes sense, cheers

  • @breonwogan15
    @breonwogan15 Год назад +15

    One thing i really liked was how the 2 marines got across the bridge after the death gaurd emerged from the blood river. They used fire and maneuver, one shooting, the other moving, frog leaping until they got into cover.

  • @mauganra2589
    @mauganra2589 Год назад +116

    It will still never cease to amaze me that one man managed to create the best piece of war hammer animation I’ve ever seen. They should’ve just given him money and said do whatever you want, it would automatically be solid gold and something people would pay for.

    • @nathancawley8759
      @nathancawley8759 Год назад +23

      This is true, but the shot-callers and bean counters at GW will never do that. They want fans to praise "Games Workshop animations" as opposed to any individual animator. Also there's a substantial amount of malicious greed involved. They want to be the only ones making money on 40k, even if it means that they will make less overall, as long as only GW gets paid from 40K. Their animators get a low budget and a tight deadline as opposed to huge bonuses and public praise. This is why I can never spend another cent on WH40k, unless they revert their bullshit, let the fans do their thing, and pay the animators more than they'd possibly make on Patreon. It is sad cause the above animation is great and Id love to watch it all.

    • @eeyun5279
      @eeyun5279 Год назад +6

      Bro you know the guy that did astartes works for games workshop now right? He’s heading up some of their productions

    • @commiehunter733
      @commiehunter733 6 месяцев назад

      True

  • @secondarytrollaccount
    @secondarytrollaccount Год назад +103

    Fighting in a hive infected by nurgle and against the death guard has to be some of the most horrific things you can do in the 40k universe. Thanks for the drop man this is sick asf.

    • @kaptaink1235
      @kaptaink1235 Год назад +4

      Darktide in a nutshell whenever they decide to get console ports out

  • @peterwight3918
    @peterwight3918 Год назад +254

    The duel with the deathguard was everything I've wanted to see with astartes on astartes violence

    • @Gunnar001
      @Gunnar001 Год назад +17

      It was cool but completely fails to portray the ridiculous superhuman speed of an Astartes…

    • @lickmylinguini9938
      @lickmylinguini9938 Год назад

      @@Gunnar001 Not really, they're moving pretty fast with big ass power armor on.

    • @peterwight3918
      @peterwight3918 Год назад +6

      @@Gunnar001 agreed

    • @gallowglass3764
      @gallowglass3764 Год назад +3

      The fan made Astartes short film did it best. Too bad GW hired him. Now we get scraps.

    • @pariswhitehead373
      @pariswhitehead373 Год назад +1

      ​@@Gunnar001 being that YOU could never move that fast I would consider that pretty f**king superhuman🙄

  • @smolpp585
    @smolpp585 Год назад +136

    Imagine how Angels of Death Season 2 is going to look if they keep up with this quality!

  • @GirmGent
    @GirmGent Год назад +141

    Watching Kazarion pick up a Deathgaurd was something, considering how heavy those bastards are and just slamming him to the ground astonishes me.

    • @rainforcer1
      @rainforcer1 Год назад +10

      Also they slower than him with all those rotten flesh on those DG marine. And his first action is to LITERALLY disarmed them 😮

    • @Glenn138horror
      @Glenn138horror Год назад +7

      Kazarion- "I would like to RAAAAAAAAAGE."

    • @deadeye9439
      @deadeye9439 Год назад +3

      Kaz is a fucking badass dude
      That freaking headbutt was phenomenal, you can hear the plague marine's neck and spine get broken and squished

    • @Blazegraze12
      @Blazegraze12 Год назад +4

      ​@@deadeye9439Can see why he was chosen for the Deathwatch.

    • @Bananakingchad
      @Bananakingchad 11 месяцев назад

      I think it was gravity he lifted him up to slam him with his pauldrons and tilting him so his weight did the deed very tactical

  • @male272
    @male272 Год назад +107

    One detail you missed...as Kizzy charged the Knurghts a white feather fell in the wake of his charge. A sign of the presence of the Primarch in spirit?...a foreshadowi of him regaining control?

    • @Counterpoints
      @Counterpoints  Год назад +27

      Yes, I’m the Angels of Death series climax this happens when a Marine gets taken by the black rage

    • @BogdanF14
      @BogdanF14 3 месяца назад +1

      Kizzy? Knurghts? Talk like a fckin normal person

  • @talscorner3696
    @talscorner3696 Год назад +76

    The moment Raphael turns, at 15:45.
    Even if the helmet is incapable of changing expression, I love how the director played with the lighting to make it look like he is frowning as he readies to scold the other Astartes.

  • @loganross1861
    @loganross1861 Год назад +10

    Astartes is the best piece of sci-fi/Fantasy I’ve seen, period. It’s peerless. I’m very open and would love to know what else is out there, but seriously can’t think of anything in the same league.

  • @philmariop
    @philmariop Год назад +41

    To war born
    In war ended
    Only in death
    Does duty end

    • @MarcTBG
      @MarcTBG Год назад

      Dreadnought: Even in death I serve...
      Servitor: beep boop, please kill me.

    • @DeadBattleBrother15
      @DeadBattleBrother15 Год назад

      "I don't wanna die"
      - Some Guardsman probably

  • @29JTAC
    @29JTAC Год назад +6

    From a tactical point of view… the fire and move is on point!! They broke right perfectly with a mag change.

  • @Madashell1200
    @Madashell1200 Год назад +60

    This. This is what we want more of GW.

    • @nikpapado9785
      @nikpapado9785 Год назад

      If you are greedy enough, they will see that those movies and series can make them huge and produce more :D

    • @Madashell1200
      @Madashell1200 Год назад +2

      @@nikpapado9785 I think they're fine doing what they are now. I am looking forward to Henry Cavill's new series in the Grimdark. But too much mainstream exposure could corrupt it entirely. For the Empress could very well be a rallying cry in a summer blockbuster that people would despise because it betrayed its roots, if GW isn't careful. But I at least trust Henry to do his right.

    • @nikpapado9785
      @nikpapado9785 Год назад

      @@Madashell1200 I just realized I mistyped. If THEY are greedy enough***

  • @RenMagnum4057
    @RenMagnum4057 Год назад +33

    This looks more like a 'Death of Hope' successor with some inspirations from Astartes

  • @colewyatt5298
    @colewyatt5298 Год назад +7

    I feel like the audio for the chainswords and bolters could use a little work. The chainswords sounded more like a slow rotary saw or a steel chain being pulled, and the bolters could use more punch. Not quite up to astartes but nice to see they're giving the animators a budget now

  • @Saintbow
    @Saintbow Год назад +42

    I'm super happy that we got to see more of Chaplain. He was my favorite from the first season and it really felt like a punch to the emotional spectrum the way they unalived him. We all could use a friend like Chaplain in our lives...

  • @YourManifoldWorld
    @YourManifoldWorld Год назад +39

    Looks like Kazarion rolled double sixes wounding both Death Guards with a chainsaw.
    Edit: Wow, after they killed the Two Death Guards...when they entered that huge chamber. The music is very reminiscent of Blade runner.

  • @samkirk79
    @samkirk79 Год назад +17

    I really liked the bounding over-watch on the bridge ambush. One astarte is always providing cover fire while the other moves. Not sure if it matters against the Death Guard, but good doctrine is still good.

  • @rm06c
    @rm06c Год назад +36

    I think Games Workshop feels they're on the brink of getting big, so good on them for improving their animation.
    WH40K is getting more and more popular as the days go by.

    • @wendigowithaninternetconne9594
      @wendigowithaninternetconne9594 Год назад +2

      Its one henry caville away from going mainstream

    • @Aurondarklord
      @Aurondarklord 11 месяцев назад +3

      It's succeeding because it stayed true to itself and its fans instead of trying to change "for modern audiences".

  • @trenchgaming2166
    @trenchgaming2166 Год назад +55

    I claim this Comment section in the name of Khorne!!

    • @lukasfrech7572
      @lukasfrech7572 Год назад +9

      Hans bring me my shovel i see ze filty heretic. FOR THE EMPEROR!!

    • @EmperorsWrath
      @EmperorsWrath Год назад +4

      Heresy! Battle Borthers, slay this traitor in the Emperor’s name!

    • @christiancarey3814
      @christiancarey3814 Год назад +1

      BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD

    • @mrnasty2757
      @mrnasty2757 Год назад +1

      Skulls for his throne!

    • @bossboard22
      @bossboard22 Год назад

      SKULL FOR THE SKULL THRONE

  • @YaBoyYeti
    @YaBoyYeti Год назад +26

    When I started collecting Blood Angels almost 30 years ago it was because I saw a red armoured guy with a chainsword and the shop keeper said that's a space vampire...then I dug deeper into the lore and it was the best rabbit hole I have encountered. Other chapters are cool too, but there is something about the BA's that is unique and I'm not talking about the Death Company etc lol.

    • @someidiotnamedtricks6397
      @someidiotnamedtricks6397 Год назад

      Honestly I always found how they were on the verge of getting destroyed literally like *right* before sangy was found to be super interesting, and shows the contrast between the revenants and blood angels

    • @jeddpires
      @jeddpires Год назад +2

      Death Company and the Furioso Dreadnought are what made the BA my favorite chapter.
      Learning about their culture and Dante further cemented it

    • @michaelgrant5524
      @michaelgrant5524 Год назад +1

      I absolutely agree. I started with the Blood Angels and Death Companies 30 years ago also.

    • @andrew3203
      @andrew3203 Год назад

      There is a trick to it, but once the Black Rage is engaged, psyker powers, Warp curses, plagues and other nasty events cannot take effect anymore. The spirit of the Space Marine is replaced by the Angel, and nothing else can enter it that place. The Space Marines become unstoppable rage engines, which sometimes left entire Imperial worlds empty of life, be they enemies, civilians or Guards, and a sea of blood in their wake.

  • @StonedSoulPainter
    @StonedSoulPainter Год назад +24

    Amazing episode, my one criticism is the promethium part. That was a damn lot of promethium, not even a space marine could deal with that intense of an explosion so close. Veeeery reckless chaplain, very reckless

    • @andrew3203
      @andrew3203 Год назад +1

      It is entirely lore-accurate. Promethium mass-deflagration has been used many times in 40k books as a means to dispose of overwhelming numbers of enemies, or as miles-long jets of terrible fire-melting streams pumped from deep reservoirs as ad-hoc (or not) long range flamers.

  • @Earthshine256
    @Earthshine256 Год назад +67

    It really saddens me that artists don't seem to grasp the concept of poxwalkers. Poxwalkers are not zombies. They don't suffer in death. They are very much alive and they are enjoying it. They love all the gifts of Nurgle and they always smile

    • @derrickj45
      @derrickj45 Год назад

      HERETIC!!!! PURGE THE UNCLEAN!!!!

    • @gavin1506
      @gavin1506 Год назад +3

      indeed. They think Nurgle to be the plague god. When in fact he's the god of despair, the last resort you turn to in desperation. Papa Nurgle takes all.

    • @TaigaShark-ij8oh
      @TaigaShark-ij8oh Год назад +4

      I forgot the name of the movie. But something like "happiness". Not the happy romantic ones. But it's an Asian zombie movie, counterpart to western horror comic "Sadist" or something.
      Where the virus targets the human brain and forces them to go violent to pursue excitement, the virus also makes them think and see normal whilst non-infected ones see madness in them. A virus that looked like " what if Slaanesh takes Nurgle's class lesson how to cultivate bacteria/virus."
      Generally. To blood angels they looked like zombies crawling in sewers, to pox walkers they may have seen themselves as hippies on high drugs af, embracing Nurgle's sweat shower in a spa.

    • @Earthshine256
      @Earthshine256 Год назад +1

      @@TaigaShark-ij8oh so... The virus in the movie is kinda like toxoplasmosis in a way then
      But poxwalker models are actually smiling. I believe it's the way they look to any spectator

    • @TaigaShark-ij8oh
      @TaigaShark-ij8oh Год назад

      @@Earthshine256
      aye.
      Likely affected by Nurgle's influence that changes their view.

  • @JJtoutcourt
    @JJtoutcourt Год назад +1

    just a little note about what you said: Space marines do die of old age, but Blood Angels can live much much longer.

  • @dangerssr6025
    @dangerssr6025 Год назад +41

    Chaplain is my favorite character in the first series. I felt just like Kaz when he screamed "NOoooo" as The chaplain got domed. Love the content thank you. I like to watch the break downs even tho I've seen the episodes already.

  • @DrFeelGoodHelpDesk
    @DrFeelGoodHelpDesk Год назад +8

    I can't see a CG chaplain without hearing the sweary VO from Baldermort anymore.....

    • @luketfer
      @luketfer Год назад +1

      "No fucking pineapple on your Pizza"

    • @travzac619
      @travzac619 Год назад +2

      "Do you lack Faith!? Do you lack a spine brother!"

  • @imstupid880
    @imstupid880 Год назад +3

    Just a note, the Black Rage is not a result of the Red Thirst. The Red Thirst is a separate gene flaw, and in fact the one the Blood Angels want to keep hidden from the Imperium at large, as unlike the relative honor of the Black Rage (from the psychic backlash of their Primarch's death), the Red Thirst had always been there, and thus a source of shame (and potential for blamming due to being a harmful mutation).

  • @mitchelljohnson559
    @mitchelljohnson559 Год назад +10

    Honor sometimes is a demand, to fight what is happening. Because are all the loyalist honored, different from one who has been dishonored.

  • @nurglerider781
    @nurglerider781 Год назад +8

    Angels of Death has some good story and the voice acting is on point. But the animation is all over the place, sometimes beautiful and awe inspiring and other times a brown/black blotchy mess.

  • @leemastro9904
    @leemastro9904 Год назад

    I’ve been a fan of Warhammer, both types, since I was a 17 year old college freshman, and was introduced to the Warhammer 40k universe by Space Hulk, the board game (I got the computer version when it came out, a bit later). From there, my friends and I got into the world of miniature wargaming, and had some truly epic battles, with improvised terrain features, sometimes on a pool table, other times a large dining room table, and for the largest battles, on the carpeted floors, in the largest rooms we had access to. Even now, at 51, I still look back at those days as some of the best times my friends and I ever had. I am so happy to see that the game has grown in popularity, and that it has successfully made the transition to animation, and soon, with Henry Cavill, live action. He is one of us, and I have no doubt that he will do everything possible to stay true to the source material. Anyway, I just wanted to thank you for making these videos. Through your efforts, a whole new generation, that might have been daunted by the sheer volume of information, gets an easy to understand, enjoyable, but still educational, introduction to the 40k universe, without missing any of the finer points. Keep up the great work, and I’ll see you in the next video.

  • @daviddouglas624
    @daviddouglas624 Год назад +2

    That into clip at the start is awesome.

  • @slowe177
    @slowe177 Год назад +1

    Love seeing the improvements in animation quality. As always, thank you for the added lore and breakdown

  • @ambientlightofdarknesss4245
    @ambientlightofdarknesss4245 Год назад +5

    I'm so glad they gave up the white black and red color pallette. It was literally an eyesore to watch. Muted colors with the reds accenuated is a MUCH better sight to look at.
    Also gives the scene more contrast.

  • @EmperorsWrath
    @EmperorsWrath Год назад +22

    This is easily one of the best Warhammer animations I’ve ever seen, visually and narratively. I especially like the chaotic shaking around Kazarion when the Plague Marines are approaching. Great horde and champion battle story overall.

    • @zakikong3210
      @zakikong3210 Год назад +1

      Same! Thats the first thing i noticed too, animations was very polished and intricately detailed and movements of the marines were smooth and can i say natural like

  • @Douglas3420
    @Douglas3420 Год назад +27

    Kazaryon against the death guard in the hand to hand was a epic scene! Really dope

  • @andrewrobertson3894
    @andrewrobertson3894 Год назад +8

    The gorgeous animation and quality voice acting made that an absolute treat to watch.

  • @artilyon
    @artilyon Год назад +6

    Astartes will always fascinate me, while their mutilated psyches do struggle to comprehend the madness around them it also shields them in a way with their clarity of purpose. They are monstrous teenage creatures living and dying n the most hardcore power fantasies.

  • @sleepylion9788
    @sleepylion9788 Год назад +8

    By the emperor! The animation has improved a lot!

    • @DeadBattleBrother15
      @DeadBattleBrother15 Год назад +1

      And not as dark as before

    • @RoboticPope
      @RoboticPope Год назад

      I just wish they would stop with the awful camera shake, wobble, sway, and spin. The lens effects are too much and the lighting is still too dark. Watching it actually makes me feel a bit nauseous, lol maybe that was intended? 😅

  • @lamesurfer1015
    @lamesurfer1015 Год назад +9

    Hey Devil. Did you notice that Kazarion and the Chaplain bounded across the bridge and kept talking guns?
    Watching it at first, it seemed like movement across the linear hazard (bridge) was slow and put them in the Death Guard's sector of fire for too long. But then again... Astartes can probably tank plenty of rounds in that armor, so short, quick successive bounds might be a viable SOP.
    Also, IIRC the creator of Helsreach and Angels of Death is a former Canadian Soldier - so this addition of Small Unit Tactics with an Astartes flavor is a nice touch.

    • @Counterpoints
      @Counterpoints  Год назад

      I did and really enjoyed the fire and maneuver but they did step out a bit too much sometimes but I get they have to make it more visually appealing over Tacticool.

    • @amirsafwan8491
      @amirsafwan8491 Год назад

      @@Counterpoints To be fair you need anti-tank weaponry to reliably punch through Astartes power armor.
      Even bolters have trouble punching through them unless you manage to hit a weak point like the one the Chaplain took in the episode.

    • @lamesurfer1015
      @lamesurfer1015 Год назад

      @@Counterpoints True that. All that said, its good to see SMs "fighting smart."
      There's only so many times you can watch a few Astartes standing tall, mag dumping and screaming something about the "Emperor" before you start wondering when the howitzers are coming in.

    • @lamesurfer1015
      @lamesurfer1015 Год назад

      @@amirsafwan8491 Which is why I think the successive bounding they did works in my head canon. Also, I think its hard to drop to prone in that armor...

    • @andrew3203
      @andrew3203 Год назад

      It was slowed down 5 times, so we can see what's happening. Space Marines move like a race car. Because their power armor is a race car.

  • @bengale9977
    @bengale9977 Год назад +9

    Wow this looks interesting. The Angels of Death team (Were they the ones that made helsreach before the buyout?) have really been moving in a good direction. Season 1 of Angels of Death was alright, but it felt rushed and was a bit disappointing, Then Angles of Death: origin came out and it was the first animation I saw that made me go "yeah, this is what I was hoping for". This looks like an improvement on that again.

  • @lordcorporal4247
    @lordcorporal4247 Год назад +5

    I wish they did more to disringiush fighting between chaos space marines vs everyone else. They just stand out of cover, firing their weapons and getting the same amount of suppressive fire as they do any other faction. It feels SW’s stormtrooper-ish. Imagine if when they faced their evil counterpart space marine they were more intensely in cover, had to move much more, and imagine a scene where a BA poked his head out and was just savagely suppressed fire by his evil, equally skilled+demon energy counterparts!!
    Just some sort of different ranges engagement to visually demonstrate that these are effing space marine ex-brothers. You just run from cover-to-cover regularly? Well you better smoke before moving cuz these guys got your aim and were trained like you (somewhat) mother fu#*er!!!!

    • @Counterpoints
      @Counterpoints  Год назад +1

      Very good point. That would be very sick to see.

    • @BovineIntervention
      @BovineIntervention Год назад

      They don't take cover because the emperor protects. Traitors with bad aim love taking cover though

  • @aaroncarter4019
    @aaroncarter4019 Год назад +6

    I think there is a note of something not really recognised here that the Chaplain seemingly well knew the sergeant had fallen to the rage and that his abandonment of their mortal allies wasn't truly to save a fellow marine's life but to protect his honour and hide the butchery of loyal Imperials from the record. It's something parts of the community can often mask or overlook because they enjoy their cool heroes but I like that some of these series are including more of these aspects.
    That the Imperial forces are often cruel beyond necessity and it is so common for even their most 'noblest' of members to focus on selfish personal goals or those of an order over the protection of the innocent, the duties they are charged with and even the very survival of the Imperium. From the sacrificing of other astartes chapters to satisfy battle calculations by the Iron Hands to the abandonment of entire campaigns to chase the Fallen by the Dark Angels, it is a faction rife with interesting flaws that should be focussed on. There's a sense that Chaos is so wholly corrupting, and that is why there are so many rebellions but the more interesting truth to me is that Imperial life is so unendingly poor that any citizen would rightfully take the first opportunity offered to seek better conditions.
    I do really miss that about the writing as there has been a trend to make the Imperium more wholly heroic.

    • @andrew3203
      @andrew3203 Год назад

      They protect more than the honor of one Space Marine, by disposing of the mad Angel, they protect the honor of the Primarch, Chapter and all successor chapters, which would get a bad name if one of their members is found to act as an uncontrolled butcher of allies.

  • @thegamerboy1000
    @thegamerboy1000 Год назад

    I'm still pretty new to the whole W40k verse nor do I have any interest in the tabletop game, but ever since diving into the lore the Blood Angels have always been my favorite chapter knowing that their primarch turned them around from the dark direction they were heading and onto one that has learn about the worlds around of them.

  • @Dooms-666
    @Dooms-666 Год назад +2

    Looks fantastic! Really good episode!

  • @karldehaut
    @karldehaut Год назад +16

    In fact Raphael acts as his Primarch. It was Horus who discovered the curse of black rage when he overheard Sanguinus delivering the deathblow to one of his children. Sanguinus begged him not to say anything. He probably feared to suffer the fate of the II and XI legions. That's how this episode sends us back to 40k lore. Blood Angels and Dark Angels will do anything to cover up their secrets...

    • @reddeath4806
      @reddeath4806 Год назад +7

      You're thinking of the Red Thirst, the Black Rage became a thing after Horus slew Sanguinius.

    • @ironduke5058
      @ironduke5058 Год назад +1

      ​@@reddeath4806You sure? I'm certain the rage was a thing, just not as prominent. I know the excerpt he's talking about and the marine attacks Sanguinius screaming and raving mad. He attacks his own Primarch. I'm not sure the thirst gives that levels of rage.

    • @tyrantsquirrel575
      @tyrantsquirrel575 Год назад +5

      The black rage is the psychic wound that affected all blood angels when Sanguinius died. He was a highly psychic primarch, and Horus used immense psychic torture on him both in the run up to and during their battle.
      Think some of the recent novels have messed up the lore a bit over time. Hate this idea of fatalism over cause and effect with a lot of the legions

    • @reddeath4806
      @reddeath4806 Год назад +5

      @@ironduke5058 The Red Thirst is really similar to the Black Rage in that when a Blood Angel goes over the edge, there's almost no chance of coming back, they'll be formed into a Death Company or locked away forever. The difference is that there's a way to stave off the Thirst, via drinking blood. Another difference is that when one succumbs to the Red Thirst, instead of raving on about being Sanguinius and everyone around you being Horus, you instead pretty much turn into a vampire whose only thought is drinking blood of your enemies.
      The story you're thinking of was Sanguinius killing one of his sons who succumbed to the Red Thirst, I believe it's from the novel, "Fear to Tread".

    • @sam93931
      @sam93931 Год назад +2

      you're speaking of the Red Thirst as pointing by others, black rage came much later, when the Primarch was slain.

  • @jameskim3155
    @jameskim3155 Год назад +5

    This is all I ever wanted and more. I think this is peak 40k, they really captured that first born era vibe. I just cant believe how thankful I am.

  • @CMTechnica
    @CMTechnica Год назад +2

    The animation is definitely a big step up from what we’ve been seeing from WH+ so far but calling it an Astartes successor is a bit far when they shroud everything in darkness to make up for the lack of detail in the animations and the Bolters just sound horrible
    I don’t think Gdubs will ever top the sound of the Bolter from the original Astartes.

  • @snip105
    @snip105 Год назад +5

    Can I just say that I love the use of the feather. It’s really fits with the black rage.

  • @mikhielthorsson6033
    @mikhielthorsson6033 7 месяцев назад

    I'm leaving 509th, my first unit in the Army, and the First Combat Jumpers for the US military, in 1942, into Algiers North Africa 2yrs before D-DAY.

  • @LewisB3217
    @LewisB3217 Год назад +4

    Wow we rarely see the Plague of Unbelief zombies 9:32
    also we get to see promethium, and it looks like Oil which is interesting. It’s also super cool to see how the Chaplain tempers the tactical, and as he is injured he can’t keep up, thus the rage nearly takes over 19:30

  • @armandozhabianiaguilarnaje6104
    @armandozhabianiaguilarnaje6104 Год назад +1

    Great review as always!! congratulations for your new sponsors!!... keep the good job on, this channel is great !!

  • @kingofwhispers
    @kingofwhispers Год назад +4

    This really makes sense, the astertes work is really doing good

  • @stankyxdanky4414
    @stankyxdanky4414 Год назад +3

    That fire an maneuver on the bridge is crisp,

  • @AmnesiaFX
    @AmnesiaFX Год назад

    Nurgle marines made themselves at tactical disadvantage when they led themselves get within charge range of an Blood Angel. The one place where they are really dangerous.

  • @mikejo8194
    @mikejo8194 Год назад +4

    Is it me or does rafeal look even more cooler without a helmet and it shows how far he's been in the blood angels

  • @HappyNoob17YT
    @HappyNoob17YT Год назад +2

    i see people whining about the animation but art style is always better than graphics.

  • @rockkiller124
    @rockkiller124 Год назад +3

    Hope Wh+ produce more stuffs like this, this was pure quality.

  • @ausinasmith96
    @ausinasmith96 Год назад +2

    I can't take my chapter brother anywhere
    He's always flying into a blood rage

  • @benjamintrejo9307
    @benjamintrejo9307 Год назад +4

    Great vid. Richard Boylan is killing it lately with these Angels of Death eps.

  • @alexsawchuk5371
    @alexsawchuk5371 Год назад

    Love how the description has gears of war in it

  • @herberthoover1257
    @herberthoover1257 Год назад +3

    This video revitalized my love for my space marine collection

  • @goatmachine-fg2ir
    @goatmachine-fg2ir Год назад +6

    This feels and looks more like a successor to Helsreach than Astartes. Similar looking animation style to it, similar pacing and story telling style, voice actors also feel similar, but that last one might be a stretch.

  • @sketchpledge2653
    @sketchpledge2653 Год назад +3

    the animation on these are great and improving, and story wise they hold up
    BUT, lets not pretend, Astartes animation is lightyears beyond this, and what makes it crazy is there's a whole ass team at GW making this, Astartes was a one man army

    • @someidiotnamedtricks6397
      @someidiotnamedtricks6397 Год назад

      To be fair, a lot of the WH+ animations are by guys who were considered some of the best for the fan animations; including the guy who made astartes but a lot of their stuff had dropped in quality when they joined so maybe something is happening behind the scenes like other people are saying

  • @porsche-sandoesnotundersta8184
    @porsche-sandoesnotundersta8184 Год назад +1

    Seeing their improvement I don't doubt they'll match Astartes Work. I wish to see Moar Astartes vs Astartes wish they do Badab war.

  • @runrundave
    @runrundave Год назад +1

    The guy that made astartes got recruited by games workshop. I guarantee he made that episode

  • @Captain40K
    @Captain40K Год назад +2

    Lez gooooo, Best video yet. So glad Games Workshop is taking their animations more seriously

  • @TchHry
    @TchHry Год назад

    Note, one of the oldest non warp tainted Astartes was a Salamander.
    "Modern" Salamanders found him on a Horus Heresy era ship guarding it's contents.
    He died shortly after discovery from extreme old age.

  • @chromacypher8409
    @chromacypher8409 Год назад +3

    I hate that I was wrong about Dante. I had hoped and said I didn't think he would cross the Rubicon. But seeing the status of the Blood Angels, I can see why.

  • @ScooBdont
    @ScooBdont Год назад +2

    Do the blood angels also mark the centuries in service of the Emperor with the studs over the eye like other SM chapters? Not seeing any when they took their helmets off just made me wonder

    • @Counterpoints
      @Counterpoints  Год назад +1

      Same tbh could just be a missing detail I think they have them in season 1

  • @micksmith1812
    @micksmith1812 Год назад +2

    I don’t really know a lot about 40k so why is that guy wearing a skull mask rather than a normal helmet?

  • @ThrdSonofSparda
    @ThrdSonofSparda 2 месяца назад +2

    I'm a FNG 9K, to Warhammer, and I NEED a tutor/mentor to help drop me in this world, like an ODST Marine!!!

    • @Counterpoints
      @Counterpoints  2 месяца назад +1

      @@ThrdSonofSparda watch the playlists my son.

    • @ThrdSonofSparda
      @ThrdSonofSparda 2 месяца назад +1

      @@Counterpoints Wilco! I'm having a little remorse for not picking this up back when I saw it for PS3 in my chair force days. So glad I kept my PS3 though 😄

  • @Tommybotham
    @Tommybotham Год назад +1

    This is absolutely NOT an Astartes successor. SODAZ - Siege told a better story than this. Wtf is with fan creators making the astartes talk so much and having combat be so easily followed like Astartes aren't meant to be insanely fast and visceral? Shitty animation.
    EDIT: 18:00 ignore what I said.

  • @Xogroroth666
    @Xogroroth666 10 месяцев назад +1

    If the quality sucks, we ARE to bitch to the creators and their puppeteers (GW in this case), or things will get even worse.
    If we accept this, all will stagnate, and then be undone even, as if time is turned back.

  • @wiggy5209
    @wiggy5209 Год назад +3

    Oh absolutely! When they provide the money, workforce and time to an animation to make animation improvement within a decent timeframe ..they are to be commended ....
    It shows an improvement somewhere and hopefully that improvement encourages more viewership and money for the animators ....
    However we have to remember how they took an Astartes sequel away because of this and stunted community freedoms ...
    Instead of subscribing to a service I would rather be able to purchase seperate collections or individual videos ... Just to have them in my collection..sent on memory sticks that increase in price dependant on the GB required ..able to watch them whenever ...forever ...

  • @lomborg4876
    @lomborg4876 Год назад +1

    I don’t like it.
    The camera work is weird. Animation are also weird.
    There’s something weird about the shading too.
    The voice acting is outright bad.
    Very low quality compared to Astartes.

  • @oldeskul
    @oldeskul Год назад +2

    The animation of this is a lot more smooth and crisp, and a lot less stiff and clunky. I know it's difficult to accurately depict how quick and smooth an astartes can move, but this definitely got closer. If I had one criticism of this, it's they don't get right how a space marine charges. Instead of running like how you or I would to charge charge someone, they do an odd skip-push, where they push down on the ground with one leg to propel themselves forward, then do so with the other leg, which allows them to quickly and forcefully cover a lot of ground to get to their target, similar to how a sprinter comes out of the starting blocks.

  • @bloodyspartan300
    @bloodyspartan300 Год назад +1

    Duty is all you have; Honor will be your reward for doing your duty, WHICH EARNS YOU REPUTATION.

  • @tyrantsquirrel575
    @tyrantsquirrel575 Год назад +1

    Seems odd, blood angels are well aware of the black rage, it gives them a sense of humility, they are not the Dark Angels.
    Also really not a fan of the BL giving all the legions pre primarch such bad lore; oh the blood angels were ALWAYS angry, the Raven Guard were ALWAYS all covert, the Iron hands were ALWAYS in contempt of the flesh. Its bad writing and removes the interesting ways Primarchs and events changed the nature and fates of each Legion.

  • @valgarisericsson6945
    @valgarisericsson6945 Год назад +1

    wtf!? why is past Russel Crowe reviewing Warhammer ?????????

  • @lordcorporal4247
    @lordcorporal4247 Год назад +1

    20:15 bro I can’t believe you didn’t point out the initial pauldron shot formed a blood angels logo on his….pauldron!!!!!
    Ps.
    Love ya, great content and much respects.

  • @benleah4783
    @benleah4783 Год назад +1

    The animation and tone are excellent; at last something akin to Astartes! The voice acting is pretty jarring though, it doesn't quite fit what we're seeing. A+ for improvement though.
    EDIT: beyond the voice performances, the sound design overall lends nothing to the atmosphere - a shame because that might up bumped it up from good to great.

  • @arattactician5697
    @arattactician5697 Год назад +1

    I would still say Astartes is the peak of Warhammer animation. While this might be good, just from glancing over this entire thing I could tell that it lacks certain subtleties, detail and weight that Astartes has. I'm not an expert in animation, directing, design or modeling, so I can't point a finger at any specifics but I can tell that this does not have the same level of quality as Astartes but I also feel it would be unfair to compare anything to Astartes because that is such a passion project made by (from what I understand) one guy, who has EVERYTHING detail figured out and essentially no deadline to meet.

  • @warwolf359
    @warwolf359 4 месяца назад +1

    Really well done animation. Story, characters, animation were top notch. The voice acting was also excellent. Wish all productions were this good.

  • @charlessaint7926
    @charlessaint7926 Год назад +1

    Chaplain looks at the sergeant. "Naw. Screw this" and just shoots him. No sense in trying to reason with a lost cause.

  • @craigsalter7900
    @craigsalter7900 Год назад +3

    8:01 A right peel! I love the fact the animator has incorporated infantry skills

  • @kinosaga21
    @kinosaga21 Год назад +1

    i hope GW learns from this and stops nickle and dimming their animators; no good comes from underpaying the people who keep their shows going, Hollywood is learning that the hard way, i hope GW doesnt have to,.

  • @recowabunga7200
    @recowabunga7200 Год назад +2

    Those animations are the good ones i want to see when i think of Warhammer40k. I have no idea how much they cost to make, but hell are they worth it.

  • @MbahMu9829
    @MbahMu9829 Год назад +1

    My only gripe is that they show too much emotion...and whining. Astartes supposed to be this bastion of stoicness and badassery. And the way they talk and walk...so not astartes like

  • @anquiladremon
    @anquiladremon Год назад +1

    27:13 tecnicaly the black rage start when horus lure the blood angels and his primarch to a ambush by khrone incursiones
    when sanguinios was bury alive by the greatdeamon of khrone the blood angels lost theire mind that was the origin of the black rage
    fun fact despite khorne being 50% the reason why the black rage happend in the first place
    he also give the cure to the blood drinkers chapters to contain the blackrage

  • @robgarcia1181
    @robgarcia1181 Год назад +3

    Woo! Another banger, thank you!!! The best Warhammer break down man on RUclips! Love it everytime. Also kinda sad Raphael's eyes were not lit red. Takes away from his intimidating stare.

  • @loganross1861
    @loganross1861 Год назад +2

    Astartes is Bud Crawford.
    This is Errol Spence Jr.
    Nothing against Spence. Crawford is just on an entirely different level.
    Astartes is the best piece of sci-fi/Fantasy I’ve seen, period. It’s peerless. I’m very open and would love to know what else is out there, but seriously can’t think of anything in the same league.

  • @ahorriblebeast1265
    @ahorriblebeast1265 Год назад +1

    Hey great vid but a question to your followers at a swap meet bought a dreadnought primal redemptor for 20 dollars in box sealed

  • @TheQuietOne937
    @TheQuietOne937 Год назад +1

    Too much talking for my taste. I loved the silent efficacy in Astartes.

  • @abmong
    @abmong Год назад +2

    It fells like Astartes, if Syama Pedersen wasn't involved I'd be very surprised and pissed off since if he wasn't involved then GW blatantly ripped off his style.