Watch Repair and Servicing - Myths, Tips and True Cost - Episode 10
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- Опубликовано: 21 июл 2024
- In this episode of Federico Talks Watches I discuss luxury watch/timepiece repair and servicing. There is a lot of misinformation out there in regards to the repair and servicing process. Especially regarding price and timeframes. I will guide you through service pricing and teach you a few trick to determine wether your watch needs to be sent in for service.
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I usually blast some WD40 in my Patek Philip through the crown hole.
Works fine.
i don't think i would do that to a patek,but it's your watch.
@@ropermrmeredith06 I think he's joking! I hope.
some idiot will try this :)
Will places like Jiffy Lube service watches?
I’ll use 3N1 or liquid wrench
Federico your depth/breadth of knowledge and interesting topics you cover each video makes you my favorite watch channel on RUclips!
I'm new at the watch collecting hobby and really appreciated your knowledgable advice Federico. The bug started with TGV and now extends to subscribing to your channel. Cheers mate👍🏻🙏🏻
Man Federico you're such a charismatic speaker and always with interesting discussions. Well done mate.
Excellent tips on what to consider and what to avoid when doing a repair. I have Rolex 2 Tone Sub, going on 25 years now, never had a thing done to it. The crown getting tight is spot on Fed...time to send it in to an authorized shop. Great video content, presentation...easy to understand. Keep up the great work!
My 23 year old Tag just now is running slow and I am going to send it in for a service. Very Happy with the longevity of this watch! Thanks for the video.
Great tips! I have an Omega with the 8500 Co axial movement that I've owned for 10 years and hasn't been into service yet (granted I don't wear it everyday) but the watch is still running chronometer standards which is amazing! So I agree that a watch definitely does not need to be serviced in the 5 year time as suggested by manufactures, it really depends on how much the watch is worn and where you live.
Federico, great video. I have some experience in this area and would add that it's usually in the owners best interest to send the watch to an authorized service center themselves. This is especially true with entry level Swiss luxury timepieces. Many of the mall-type stores will gladly send the watch to the ASC only to up charge for shipping and then double or triple key the estimate. At this point, a $300 service estimate from the ASC quickly becomes a $1000 "repair" and a quick store profit. If you must send through a small jeweler, demand to see the paper estimate from the ASC (which is always itemized) prior to remitting payment.
Thank you for the info. I just came across your channel as a link from TVG, and I must say that I like what you're doing! I appreciate the thought that goes into your videos, and this addresses a part of the hobby that doesn't often get screen time.
I'm relatively new to the watch hobby, and service info is very valuable to me because I have not learned a lot about watch maintenance yet. I'm a student, but I work part time as an auto service advisor, so mechanical service has always been something that I think about.
Thanks again, and keep up the great work! (Subscribed)
- M
Very helpful Fredirico! I bought my submariner in 1994 and had it serviced in 2013! It was still keeping excellent time but there was an issue with the crown/winder. I could still hack the seconds but something had become disconnected so I couldn't move the hands. Sent it off to an authorised Rolex service agent who sorted everything out perfectly. I waited 19 years so completely agree that 4-5 years is nonsense!
Early in my collecting I did the five year services. I now service watches when they ‘tell’ me it is needed. If a chronometer stops keeping good time or a watch will not keep running, it is time. Thank you for an honest video on this topic@!
Thanks man for this vid!! I'm getting into the mechanical watch game and actually have been looking to buy the Orient Ray 2 soon. Also have been doing a lot of research on keeping those type of watches in great working order and servicing was a question that I had. Appreciate the vid again!!!
I'm getting ready to service my Fredrique Constant & this info is great to hear, thanks again, great watch info.
Excellent advice, much appreciated. Having previous paid IWC 600 quid for a service, I had no idea there were options. Something the dealer never mentioned.
Hi Fed - Excellent video and right on target with helping to demystify the question of when to have a watch serviced. I've always thought the manufacturer's 5 year service requirement was standard procedure. Thanks for the insider tips! Keep the great topics coming! Cheers!
+John Viano
My pleasure John. Thanks for the comment. They say 5 years just to make sure they cover their butts incase something happens.
Excellent advice Federico. The most balanced approach to this subject I have seen yet
I am a vintage watch lover and have watches that are over forty years old that are still performing well within specifications and absolutely no need for service.
Vintage Timex's are especially good on this point. Robust and simple movements that when it does come time to service are so simply and need so few special tools that if you can assemble meccano you can service!
The one thing I would add though is have an independent watchmaker check water resistant watches for resistance once every 18 months.
Its cheap and simple for them to do while you wait and adds to peace of mind I find.
+ianmedium
Absolutely. I do check my water resistance before events like taking my pieces to the beach or going on vacation.
Federico! Loving the new channel, good stuff and glad youre enjoying it. And I'm pumped you and tgv are going to be doing weekly vids, should be fun. Cheers from Boston!
+John Kambouris
Thanks John, we are having a ton of fun doing them. Many more to come hopefully.
Agreed. Service your watch when it tells you it needs to be serviced!
A very informative video that puts my mind at ease when making a big watch purchase. Thank you
Great Video! Very informative. Gives a good overview of the lifecycle and maintenance of a quality watch.
Thank you very much, Federico. I have just one mechanical watch in my "collection". It's an automatic Tissot that I seldom use. For using daily I have other 3 quartz watches. All of them are Tissot as well and all of my four watches are chronographs. I was a little bit worried because my mechanical one is about 3 years old and servicing a Tissot in an AD here in Brazil costs a fortune. With your tips I'm giving it a little wind once a month and I hope it won't need any service soon. And with what they charge here to service a quartz it's enough to buy a new piece in the grey market in the US. So instead of servicing my watches, I save to get new ones.
Great tips. Definitely going to keep those opt out tips in mind for the future. Thank you.
Hi Federico,
Thanks for the information. It really helps to set the costs in perspective.
Best regards,
Claus
My Omega Speedmaster Professional is currently back at Omega for its second service, I bought it new about 27 years ago. My Seamaster Professional Chronometer is a little younger and has already been serviced twice. None of my other watches has been serviced more than once, some have never been serviced and they are all accurate and still have nice crown action.
Loving the channel Federico! More power to you my friend!
I have owned a Rolex Tudor Oyster Prince for over 25 yrs., and have never had it serviced. A good friend advised me to not get it serviced until it quits running when wound all the way. This is the time you know when parts replacement is justified, so there is no question that the cost will be honest and timely. By the way, enjoy and look forward to your comprehensive videos each day. Many thanks, Tony
Tony Tarquinio why do Tudor owners call them Rolex Tudor I know same company but still embarrassing , but a Rolex ffs 😂
Thank you Federico. I was just about to ask these very questions on the FB group. I am thinking about looking for a Zenith El Premiero 410, and I was concerned that the cost of service would be prohibitive. Now I just need to keep saving and start looking. (Hopefully I can find a good used example!) Thanks again and Cheers!
Another great video. Really informative and entertaining as well. Also enjoyed the tgv collaboration. Thanks a million.
+Malte Sumpf
Malte, thank you for watching! ;)
Great video Federico, absolutely spot on with all the info given.
Great content Fredericco! Need more stuff like this out there....👍🏻
Excellent video with good information. I've had a Ball watch for 4 years now and I was getting worried about the service. It runs great and after hearing your take on servicing I see no need for it just yet. Thanks again Federico!
+jdw1920 My Ball Fireman 1 is probably 10 y.o. (I bought it second hand 6 years ago). It runs perfectly, and I am reassured by Federico's advice.
+jdw1920
Great to hear JDW...
really great information,thank you,. ps great to see you and tgv working together..
+Edward Morley
Thanks Edward, I really enjoying making the collaboration videos with him. I think our styles work well together.
Thanks for the knowledgeable and useful videos. Looking forward to more!
I found it very useful. Thank you. With that said I would say that it might be a bit late to service your watch when you start noting misbehavior from your watch. It's like your car, you service it to avoid problems and more costly repair down the road. But four or five years between services sounds to a bit of a short time span. A well serviced watch should be good to go for 8-10 years I say (depending a bit on what complications the watch have too).
Thanks Fed. Yes info was super helpful. Thanks for posting.
Good info. Your inside industry knowledge is very valuable.
Federico, GREAT advice. Very important coming from someone with your knowledge and experience on the retail. Thanks.
PD: Congrats in the Radiomir, it is on my list. But so far, I'm happy enough (I believe I will always be) with my Luminor Marina.
Keep it up!
Great video - I just serviced an El Primero daily beater for the first time in 10 years and completely agree with your views. Cheers from Ukraine :)
Federico,
This was very helpful I’m about to get my rolex sub serviced it’s running slow.
Federico: another very helpful video. Thanks!
I just brought a vintage Seamaster in for a check-up. It still working fine, I just got it and wanted to make sure. Watchmaker said I could be service, the inside of the caseback said the last service was performed 23 years ago. Keep in mind the technology of the movements as well as the lubricants weren't where they're at today. So there you go.
Great and useful info! Never want to waste money needlessly.I'm learning a lot, these are the kind of tips (new) collectors need!
+John Rycroft
Thanks John, much appreciated!
Wow, just watched your vid with Urb, You are a ticking encyclopaedia!, you really do your research, if this is what is in store for us here this channel will do very well. you have a great enthusiasm.
+Chop Logic
Thank you buddy! Your comments serve as great motivation. I really appreciate it.
Thank you Frederico for this PSA!
Great tips Frederico. Please keep them coming
Thanks Federico. This is great information. I am really enjoying all of your videos.
+Greg Moore
Thanks Greg!
Hi Federico, This was very informative. I also believe that this will depend on your specific watch and it:s needs. Another consideration is the personal value on your watch. Does it have sentimental value? This is another reason that will affect one's decision on which options to opt in or opt out of for servicing a particular watch.
Very informative, thank you :)
Keep up the good work.
Best wishes
Hi thanks excellent video, regards from Argentina. Hola muchas gracias excelente video, saludos desde Argentina.
very good content!keep it up Federico and more power!cheers!
You are really knowledgeable man!! Great video Federico.
Great video Federico! Keep up the great work!
Very informative! Great work Federico!
your videos are truly amazing!!! keep up the good job
Great PSA.
Definitely send in only when it start losing time or crown feels weird.
Manufacturer service only.
So many factors that go into lube breaking down. Wrist time, winder time, temperature, how often the crown is popped to let in a fresh air, heat cycling, storage temperature, etc etc...
Thanks for the tips, very valuable info!
Very informative video. Thanks Federico!
Excellent and helpful advice. Thank you.
Thanks for a great video and for the advice.
A really great topic, thank you Federico
I love this vid Federico. You tell it the way it is. I wouldn't service any of my watches unless either something goes wrong or at least 10 years is up :-)
I don't know what it is but I worry about getting it back worse than before as I've heard and read about some terrible stories. Keep up your great vids. Subscribed :-)
Thanks for the info I just bought an automatic in the $1500.00 range and now I’m not so nervous .
my Omega speedmaster cost$632 for complete servicing, 1st time in 13 years of ownership. I'll wear more when I get it back.
The information was indeed helpful! Thank you.
I have a seiko skx007 Been on my wrist for 30 plus years never serviced, works fine. Its been all over the world with me. I was wearing during the birth of all my children. Its still water resistant, the bezel has zero clicks LOL. I just can't get it serviced each and every part of my watch is overly sentimental. love your channel.
I have a 80+ yo Omega that my Grandfather gave my father. While I need to get it serviced so it safely runs, it does wind easily and runs fine. However I do not run it but maybe once or twice a year
Is it 2026 already?
You realize that having a watch serviced regularly even if your like this dude in the video and "haven't had them serviced since I got em." We don't tell people 4-5 years to cover our butts because you have to pay for servicing regardless unless it's a watchmakers or manufacturing error. 4-5 years is for the oils and greases the more regularly that you have your watch serviced the less damage that will actually happen to your watches internal organs meaning fewer if any costly/timely repairs. Plus if you have more than one watch you build a bond between you and your watchmaker/clocksmith, which allowing for human error, unless it's shipped and you never even meet the man/woman/child that works on your watch, you can ask and learn more about any repairs they may have made what to expect in the future and when maybe you should have the watch serviced again as they'll be able to give you a much better estimate
If its not broken don't service it especially a watch 200 and under watch. if I have to escape from nyc, I have my Casio with a ten year battery, I also keep a few handy batteries, going for a 30 dollar solar watch Casio next, if I win the lottery,
Snake Plisskin Hmm...But wasn't SKX introduced in 1996?.. 30 years on your wrist - all right...
Helpful tips! Thanks Federico!
Excellent video, Federico! Yours are my sentiments exactly. Service only when needed and keep everything as original as possible. Not a fan of polishing either.
Thanks for the valuable information, sir.
THIS IS THE EPISODE I WAS WAITING FOR THANKS FED
OH SHIT THIS IS FROM A WHILE AGO
Awesome content Fredirico! Keep those videos coming!
+Shailen Ramnares
Will do man!
Really informative video, thank you!
Long Island watch company - on his channel he sells watches & has a good collection. He said in over 20 years - he serviced 1.
Vince White think about their rotations too. How often is it worn.
True. But lube also dries up over time. I think regardless of how much it is used. Though use can speed up the process idk
Thanks! I am now thinking of getting an automatic watch. I am open to the best technology rather than the newest so I drive a manual transmission car since they last longer and you have more control. Many Electric guitarists still use tube amps because they sound better. I couldn't figure out the advantage of automatic watches over quartz other than they won't get fried by EMP from a solar flare or nuclear bombs
Great video Federico! Subscribed!
I bought my Cosmic 565 in 1969. I wore it for 26 years before it started to slow down. The watchmaker replaced the mainspring and one pivot. It still has not had it's second service and runs just fine.
totally agree with you on the frequency length of timd between services now for one thing in 10 years those 600 will become $1000 but regardless is worth it every penny now what if you actually wear the watch lets say a year within those 10 years does the how often equation change?
It's nice to hear your opinion on this topic. Recently I've been a big fan of Paul Thorpe on youtube as well, what's your opinion on his content - being a quote gray dealer unquote?
The country where I stay in Singapore. There are many reputable 3rd party offering servicing for Rolex. Polishing + servicing (oiling, adjust movement, demagnetizer) for SGD$180 but generally around $280 region. Parts replacing rare occurrence unless u drop the watch.
Thanks for the info! I bought a Breitling today and the jeweler told me every 5 years and quoted me $790 per service. I asked him why every 5 years, and he said "just to be safe." I wasn't convinced, but we will see. Appreciate the knowledge!
$790? That is a ripoff. See my comment above. Breitling charges $490 for their Complete service.
Great info! I like the insider info.
You’ve allayed several of my main fears, since I’m torn between the ‘new’ Rolex Explorer II “Arctic” 42mm watch & the newer Tudor Pelagos w/ their in-house MT-5612 mvmt..!! Having my preferences split prett evenly, which would you buy? BTW, EXCELLENT Videos you produce ~ lots of great/useful knowledge within a relatively short time period ~ KUDOS!!🇺🇸
Just caught up with this, after binging on videos from yourself and TGV.
Loving the Billingham bag in the background! What camera do you use?
Keep up the good work!
great info!!!thanks for the video!
Nice video, enjoyed that.
Good advice Frederico.
Very Helpful. Thank You👍
great vid, came here from gentry. great vids guys
I have a friend who purchased a brand new Rolex Day-Date from an AD 20 years ago and he never had it serviced ever since he acquired the watch. And, the watch is still running perfectly so far as his everyday watch.
I have a 1986 Seiko 6309 that I just had serviced for the second time. I used a local watchmaker it was $135 for mechanical service gaskets and pressure check.
I serviced my breitling B1 after 12 years what a great whatch
Very very helpful, thanks a bunch!
Frederico, I agree with you. Watch like Rolex or high-end luxury watch don't need to send in for services unless the 3 things u have mentioned. Unless the watch has been dropped, hit or not smooth in running.
I should've opted out the polishing and replacing the hands and dial... my speedy date had some problem with the minute counter on the chronograph, so I sent in to omega for service. Although, I would probably opt for bezel insert replacement than say changing the crystal, if the watch has metal bezel.
I have an great quality automatic German dive watch and a few years ago as I didn't wear it for a while unscrewing the crown to wind it the stem came out of the watch
Thanks, lots of great info!
yes l do agree with you federico ln my collection l have a 1996 rotary dive watch up to now l still have not serviced it besides battery replacement after a couple of years but l have never heard you talking about rotary watches whats your honest opinion about them
Very helpful, thanks !
Good stuff! Thanks, for sharing.
Great information. Thank you Federico!
+Justin Register
Cheers Justin!
Valuable Knowledge Thank you Just Subscribed to your channel