@@ackbeans4829 In order to justify his warring thoughts, Vader actually had to believe that he had killed Anakin. Notice that, in Rebels, he tells Sheev that "Anakin Skywalker's apprentice is still alive." He also says to Ahsoka "Anakin Skywalker was weak, so I killed him."
True... Cuz of this it hurts even more to see the whole band making a comercial to get va**inated :,( protomens music allways had such a longing for freedom and uprising... I still love their music and allways will
People talk a lot about the line, "There are no heroes left in Man." but I feel the beginning is much more powerful. "Tell me now! Is there a Man among you here, Is there no one who will stand up and try to fight?" "Tell me, Man! Is there not one in all your ranks? Is there no one who values Courage, over life?" Protoman is begging for any of the crowd to stand up for themselves. I see it as the implication that if even one person put themselves forward, he'd turn around and fight Wily's forces tooth and nail(or bolt and screw, as it were)
Whenever I here the line "Is there no one who values Courage, over life?", I think of Tank Man, the Chinese protestor who stood in front of a tank in an attempt to stop it in its tracks. "Everything a man is supposed to be," in the words of Emily from Act II. www.nytimes.com/2019/06/03/world/asia/tiananmen-tank-man.html
"They'' watch you die to save their lives. They will not sand here by your side." This is the line that crushes me every time. I've seen them preform live so many times and not once have they done The Stand, I imagine it's because it would immediately crush the mood of the room.
Never thought watching a 4 hour video on metal gear solid 4 would leave me learning about MegaMan and a video game centric rock band. For reference: "Metal Gear Solid 4 was a Mistake", very very late into the video as Snake and Ocelot have their final showdown on Outer Haven.
I really like that effect they have on Protoman's voice. It makes him sound just robotic enough that you notice it without it overpowering the singer's original voice.
@@pseudogenesis I always interpreted it as his Breakman mask. I figured he was wearing it during Vengeance and took it off when he said "What vengeance means" to talk to Megaman, and then he puts it back on at the end of this song because hes no longer the man who wore that face. Then he wears it all throughout Sons of Fate until it falls off when he dies, at which point Megaman slowly puts it on as he comes to his realization. However, I think your interpretation is equally valid.
@@baval5 Both interpretations are correct. It can also be that Protoman dons the Breakman mask when he feels less the robot he used to be and more Wily's pawn. When he tells his story to his younger brother and cautions him against humanity, he's Protoman taking pity on Megaman and feeling he's going to be broken by loneliness and despair as he was, when he's done and Megaman is still willing to fight, he dons back the Breakman disguise, as Protoman is no more there, and Megaman is no more his brother but an enemy. When Megaman kills him, Breakman returns Protoman for a final time, and Megaman returns to be his grieving brother. So Megaman becomes the "new" Breakman, but instead of breaking others he lets his own heart shattered beyond repair until he can't feel anything anymore
Best damn song on the whole album. I love how you can hear the anguish in Protoman's voice throughout, especially the "THEY'LL WATCH YOU DIE TO SAVE THEIR LIVES!" part.
Of course it's the best song, it's the villain's song. The villain's song is always the best in every musical. Not 100% of the time, but it's pretty common.
To this day, despite the unbelievable heights The Protomen have reached through Act 2, the Cover Up, and the (hopefully) soon-to-be-announced Act 3, NOTHING touches the raw power in the line "There Are No Heroes Left in Man"
AkridHunter this is the climax of the album and the raw viscera this album presents will never be duplicated no matter how good they get... this song gives me chills beyond what should be possible
This song really hits me at heart. I don't know what it is, but that robotic cry from Protoman as he screams to humanity in a hope of convincing them one last time really just bring a tear to my eyes. This man sacrificed everything he had in hopes to have their help, but now here he is, a resurrected, hollow remake of what he once was, screaming and pleading the truth to them and his younger brother. I think Protoman knew he was about to fall one last time, but if he could use his voice once...
The opening is what drives it home. that suddenly soft piano laced with drum beats, and that sudden guitar riff, every single bit heart wrenching and gut churning. Light's words echo. "You cannot do both." Years later, I still get chills every time I hear "THERE ARE NO HEROES LEFT IN MAN. SO IT BEGINS! "
so frigging epic "But when you fight, you'll fight alone. And in the end you'll see there was no other way. I've been here before. I've stood where you stand. They called me their hero, The Hero of Man. But why should we save them when they stand for nothing? If they deserve life, LET THEM STAND FOR THEMSELVES. We've given everything we can. There are no heroes left in man."
Lyrics You're trying to understand. I told you your brother had been killed. Yet, here he stands in the very shadow of the man you came here to destroy. You came here to avenge his death. You came here to save mankind. You see now, you cannot do both. Tell me now. Is there a man among you here? Is there no one who will stand up and try to fight? Tell me Man, is there not one in all your ranks? Is there not one who values courage over life? They looked to me once. Now they turn to you. Do you understand now? Do you see that the truth is they don't want to change this? They don't want a hero. They just want a martyr, a statue to raise. I've given everything I can. There are no heroes left in man. So it begins! No matter which one of us lives, the ground we're standing on will crack and blow away. And you will fight. But when you fight, you'll fight alone. And in the end you'll see there was no other way. I've been here before. I've stood where you stand. They called me their hero, The Hero of Man. But why should we save them When they stand for nothing? If they deserve life, LET THEM STAND FOR THEMSELVES. We've given everything we can. There are no heroes left in man. They'll watch you die to save their lives. They will not stand here by your side. (Instrumentals) We've given everything we can. There are no heroes left in man! So let them watch as we decide, the very fate of all mankind!
One thing I love about this song is how the distortion varies in Protoman's voice. The distortion tends to be an indicator of how evil the speaker's intentions are (of maybe how disillusioned they are. It's debatable). And for the most part, Protoman's voice has some level of distortion. But it's highest when he's badmouthing man, saying they're all cowards. And it's almost entirely gone we asks "is there not one among you who will try to fight?". In that moment, he's not a soldier of Wily, or a man bitter at being abandoned by those he tried to save. He's just a man genuinely hoping someone will stand up, pleading with the crowd to follow the example he and his brother have set. It really adds to the message of this song. Protoman's goal wasn't vengeance. At least not completely. He wanted to force mankind to stand up for themselves. I don't think what he's done is *right*, but it's understandable.
No you're totally right. : ( As soon as I heard this track, I thought of all the people who protest to no avail, watch TV and unanimously agree that our system is rotten from top to bottom, but can't muster up the courage to break the apathy and risk our own lives or comfort to change a damn thing. And those of us that do try, we just see our dreams crash in front of us, watch as our fellow citizens we fight for just look the other way as a billy club comes down on us. Etc.
There's almost no sci fi stories that stand in judgement of humanity and find it wanting. That's why I love this song and album so much. It's a realistic view on humanity.
Contrary to popular belief, if you ignore a problem for long enough, it does not go away! Unless that problem is eating, drinking, or breathing. In which case, ONE problem will be gone at least.
Joe was the last of his kind, that's what I hear listening to this. It just leaves me broken, imagining who was or will be our Joe. The very thought that he'll suffer the same fate that our Joe did it I cant even tell what it makes me feel but I want to believe that there are still heroes left in man.
No matter what kind of monster he became after being recreated by Albert, Protoman has been and will always be my hero in my eyes. I loved him when I was a kid and I still love him. Long Live Protoman.
+3223Spiderman There's are show called VGCW a parody wrestling web series about video game characters wrestling each other, there's one character name Proto Man (Now renamed as Break Man) who use this song for his intro. people or fans who heard this song a making the joke about him, like he's a jobber or he's a jerk.
***** Rock music is characterized specifically by being relatively fast and punchy with electric guitars. Metal is to rock as the rapier is to the sword, or as crack is to cocaine. It is the refined, concentrated, most powerful version of the genre. When I listen back to back between Iron Maiden, and say, Rush, while one is rock and one is metal, it's the same itch getting scratched. The same can't be said for any of the other equivalents you drew, and if you were to find and equivalent where it did indeed scratch the same itch, I would feel the same applies.
@@buttrockman4578 true but I can easily see classic rock band that like bands such as white snake enjoying this as well. Not saying they are the same but just that they aren't super far away imo
@@pantsoverp8849 the comment you are replying to was part of an argument that got deleted and i dont even fully remember the context of, so i dont really have a response for you.
Soon you realize how important both are. The prismatic fantasy of breaking out, and the dark pessimism of the stand are not opposites, but complimentary to each other
To me one of the most powerful moments in this song is 3:36 where Protoman jumps into the middle of the robot army and DESTROYS HIS OWN LEGIONS as he makes his way to megaman.
I have a particularly strong memory of this song. I live in Massachusetts, not terribly far from Boston. I was on high repeatedly listening to The Protomen in mid-April of 2013. On the morning of the 15th, I had just gotten off the train coming home from work and I noticed there was a huge crowd on the Train Platform - something very unusual for my small town. While I squeezing through the crowd, I was listening to this song - in particular the speech by Protoman about if there was anyone who valued courage over life would stand up. I silently sung along thinking that this band was right. There are no Heroes left in Man. That morning was mere hours away from the Boston Marathon Bombing. That crowd waiting for the train was going to Boston for the Marathon. I wonder if there was meaning in that moment.
Why should we save them when they stand for nothing? If they DESERVE life, let them STAND FOR THEMSELVES! And the way he says this line: "We've given everything we can. There are no heroes left in man." As if it is just an inevitability is incredibly powerful. His tone is almost bored and heartbroken... A fallen hero Protoman is indeed.
They dont want to chang this. They don't want a hero. They just want a martyr. A statue to raise. I've given everything I can. There are no heroes left in man. bro was cooookingggggg. 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
mankind, those living in this city, they had every reason to stay downtrodden. the diabolical schemes of Wily kept them in a malaise, and eliminated anyone who might rise up against him. and yet, a hero still arose. from this oppressive bog of a city, a hero arose. his name was Joe. he lost, yes, but not for lack of heroism or will, but because Wily was one step ahead. and yet, you, Protoman, the man who was designed to be a hero, the one who had every advantage Light could give you, the one who not only failed, but became the very thing you swore to destroy, you DARE to lecture Humanity about their failure to produce heroes. you have no moral high ground here. you were never really a hero. a hero is one who fights even when he knows he is the only one left standing.
No but he's right though. What exactly have the people done? Were they with Protoman when he went to fight Wily and his minions? How did the masses assist their creation? Did they take up arms against Wily's machine regime? No, they did absolutely nothing. They put all their bets on Protoman, expecting him to do all the work and solve everything on his own. He failed, so they decided to try again with Mega Man, ditching one machine for another. They sent Mega Man to finish the job, again not doing anything else of their own initiative. No organized resistance, no assisting Mega Man, just let him do the work and reap all the benefits. The masses had their chance, and Protoman concluded that the people refused to help themselves, thus were no longer worth his time. By Act I's end, Mega Man came to a similar conclusion when he saw them chanting for Protoman's death, begging for his help when the robots showed up. He let them die because they were too apathetic to defend themselves. Protoman is not a hero, he was just a tool of the masses, a people too lazy to work together, too undeserving of a martyr of any kind. Protoman was right, and to claim he was "never really a hero" is merely shifting blame while feigning innocence. The masses were guilty of apathy, putting their problems onto one character they never understood or tried to understand, a character they saw as a weapon they could use without needing to struggle.
@@mailmanwilly and what could they have done? its really easy to sit on your high horse and say they should have done "something" but what the fuck could they have done? explain to me exactly what they were supposed to do, and then explain to me a bunch of oppressed downtrodden people living day by day were supposed figure out and organize an effective rebellion in a city where a seemingly invincible regime of robot masters ruthlessly crush anyone who steps out of line? they needed a hero not because of apathy but because of lack of ability. even Joe struggled against a single assassin with a knife. to call that apathy is akin to telling the starving masses to eat cake.
@@mailmanwilly but despite everything i have said, despite all the countless issues that contribute to their continued oppression, this will end eventually. there will be more heroes, better heroes. human heroes. humanity always finds a way, eventually. no regime, no matter how invincible, lasts forever. there will always be heroes left in man.
@@VeryPeeved I do agree that they had no chance on their own. But when protoman was speaking to them they should have stood up and say they are ready to put everything they have into stopping wily. If even one person had stood up and fought, protoman would have turned his back on wily. Them doing nothing but cowering behind megaman was them throwing away their last chance. As now they have no choice but to fight, and now they fight alone.
Same, I play videogames all the time, but never got to Megaman. It is on top of my list of games to play now, I am starting it tonight. Protomen is the perfect 'ad' for the game.
the weird thing is, when we listen we are quick to denounce humanity with it's flaws but the depressing thing is, We are humans we are part of humanity, the cowardly humans who'll put faith in that that's not us.
"humans only think for them selfs they are a selfs race that stands for good or evil which ever happened to be most convenient for them at the time"-??? "that's why...! .. its a beautiful thing when everyone comes together as one. at times they will help each other console each other and compete against each other at times even fight and hurt each other... but when it really matters they will band together stand together!! and that's why I most fight for them and be prepared to die for them I am megaman!!!"-rock aka megaman "megaman gigamix volume 2"
Wily found a loophole: There will be light as long as the darkness "stays until the sun is set". The darkness was removed. Then it came back. Damn these technicalities.
My guess is Wily took what he could of him (even if pieces) and tried to replicate him the best he could. Possibly his robots were able to "scan" him before killing him off so he could do what he could to rebuild him. From there, it was just a matter of simply getting a point across Proto's mind that he was fighting for the wrong side.
Can someone help me out with the Break Man references? I'm not getting it. But then I haven't heard anything of Act III except for the Hold Back The Night preview.
The band had just come out of music school when they made this album and they wanted a "post apocalyptic" sound that they achieved by deliberately going against everything they learned about recording sound well.
Anyone else sad that the best summation of our political situation is a dystopian rock opera series based on a videogame? I'm not knocking the Protomen mind you, I'm knocking our political situation.
I could be off base, but I think it's the same thing Obi-Wan told Luke in Star Wars. Protoman was defeated and the hero that he was died, and he became everything he fought against.
@theartofapodyopsis I meant that in a metaphorical sense. He realized that Joe was like a son to him after he died, having quickly developing a bond with him. He believes (at first) that he is the one who should have died in Joe's stead.
@theartofapodyopsis You never know. Years upon years pass between the death(s) of Protoman and Joe. What's not to say that Light was building a son to fight Wily, only to realize that his other son was resurrected and disillusioned?
I resonate a lot with Protoman and his resentment due to my autism. People have a lot of preconceptions about autistic people. Some assume we're all savants in hiding, and put unrealistic pressure on us to outweigh our perceived detriment to society. Others still treat me as sub-human, second class, or straight up alien. I have deep rooted trust issues, I have doubts as to the lasting power of society, and I have constantly had my child-like naiveté abused by by a society that promotes exploitation and predatory behaviours. Much like how Protoman never wanted his energy core fixing, for fear it eould change him, I don't want to be "cured", and I'm tired of being treated like I have leprosy. Nobody accepted Protoman as he was, not Light, nor Wily, or anyone else.
@TheKayasumaRaider This is 12 years after Joe, thus him saying "There are no heroes LEFT in man" he's saying that there aren't any heroes anymore, not there werent ever.
Yeah, that was what happened. It is in the lyrics for Funeral for a Son. It does mention that Doctor Light was about to explain the truth about Protoman to Megaman.
Mankind doesn't seem to want to live until around 23XX judging by how long it takes for any sort of human resistance to appear in the actual games. Depending on what happens in the mysterious gap between classic Megaman and Megaman X, it seems kind of miraculous that they were able to survive that long even with the passive "help" of robots and reploids. Keep the fires burning.
I just came here to listen to a good song, then i saw that would never happen, because there's a war going on in the comments. Really guys, appreciate the damn music!
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"When your brother joined Wily, the man he was ceased to exist, therefore, from a certain point of view, your brother died."
-Light
Is this sheevposting?
basically Vader and Anakin
Or Light could have actually thought that Protoman was dead, considering that the only thing he could salvage was Protoman's helmet.
@@ackbeans4829 In order to justify his warring thoughts, Vader actually had to believe that he had killed Anakin. Notice that, in Rebels, he tells Sheev that "Anakin Skywalker's apprentice is still alive." He also says to Ahsoka "Anakin Skywalker was weak, so I killed him."
"From a certain point of view?"
It's really amazing how you can feel the heartbreak and betrayal in Protoman's voice with every "There are no heroes left in man".
And how his voice become less human as the song goes
in RL its the same (they watch you die)
True... Cuz of this it hurts even more to see the whole band making a comercial to get va**inated :,( protomens music allways had such a longing for freedom and uprising... I still love their music and allways will
@@lysergikwizard2479 freedom and uprising against things that should be fought
@@zealot246resonsibilty also comes into play...no mans an island
People talk a lot about the line, "There are no heroes left in Man." but I feel the beginning is much more powerful.
"Tell me now!
Is there a Man among you here,
Is there no one who will stand up and try to fight?"
"Tell me, Man!
Is there not one in all your ranks?
Is there no one who values Courage, over life?"
Protoman is begging for any of the crowd to stand up for themselves. I see it as the implication that if even one person put themselves forward, he'd turn around and fight Wily's forces tooth and nail(or bolt and screw, as it were)
Just one person to step forward. One last chance to change his mind. One person to prove they wouldn't run if Megaman faltered
Of course no one did.
Whenever I here the line "Is there no one who values Courage, over life?", I think of Tank Man, the Chinese protestor who stood in front of a tank in an attempt to stop it in its tracks. "Everything a man is supposed to be," in the words of Emily from Act II.
www.nytimes.com/2019/06/03/world/asia/tiananmen-tank-man.html
I mean yeah, what else his dying words mean? He's begging them to tell their children because maybe one of them will actually listen.
"They'' watch you die to save their lives. They will not sand here by your side." This is the line that crushes me every time. I've seen them preform live so many times and not once have they done The Stand, I imagine it's because it would immediately crush the mood of the room.
@@Jameskoek Either that or they know damn well an audience member would get on stage and they'd have to drastically change the plot.
Rise and Shine Snake....Look, the war is over
Stopped you? Why would I want to do that?
Goated comment
But we still have a score to settle
...You're pretty good.
Never thought watching a 4 hour video on metal gear solid 4 would leave me learning about MegaMan and a video game centric rock band.
For reference: "Metal Gear Solid 4 was a Mistake", very very late into the video as Snake and Ocelot have their final showdown on Outer Haven.
Glad I did honestly, this shit rules
I really like that effect they have on Protoman's voice. It makes him sound just robotic enough that you notice it without it overpowering the singer's original voice.
The best part is that the robotic filter gets more and more pronounced throughout the song, as Protoman forsakes the last of his humanity. Goosebumps
I am glad I wasn't the only one who noticed this.
@@pseudogenesis You can hear it happening to Megaman's voice in the next song too, it's powerful!
@@pseudogenesis I always interpreted it as his Breakman mask. I figured he was wearing it during Vengeance and took it off when he said "What vengeance means" to talk to Megaman, and then he puts it back on at the end of this song because hes no longer the man who wore that face. Then he wears it all throughout Sons of Fate until it falls off when he dies, at which point Megaman slowly puts it on as he comes to his realization. However, I think your interpretation is equally valid.
@@baval5 Both interpretations are correct. It can also be that Protoman dons the Breakman mask when he feels less the robot he used to be and more Wily's pawn.
When he tells his story to his younger brother and cautions him against humanity, he's Protoman taking pity on Megaman and feeling he's going to be broken by loneliness and despair as he was, when he's done and Megaman is still willing to fight, he dons back the Breakman disguise, as Protoman is no more there, and Megaman is no more his brother but an enemy.
When Megaman kills him, Breakman returns Protoman for a final time, and Megaman returns to be his grieving brother.
So Megaman becomes the "new" Breakman, but instead of breaking others he lets his own heart shattered beyond repair until he can't feel anything anymore
Best damn song on the whole album.
I love how you can hear the anguish in Protoman's voice throughout, especially the "THEY'LL WATCH YOU DIE TO SAVE THEIR LIVES!" part.
Of course it's the best song, it's the villain's song. The villain's song is always the best in every musical. Not 100% of the time, but it's pretty common.
@sethwick8348 tbf protoman isn't actually the villan. Even in the first album
To this day, despite the unbelievable heights The Protomen have reached through Act 2, the Cover Up, and the (hopefully) soon-to-be-announced Act 3, NOTHING touches the raw power in the line "There Are No Heroes Left in Man"
AkridHunter this is the climax of the album and the raw viscera this album presents will never be duplicated no matter how good they get... this song gives me chills beyond what should be possible
Good news! On an Instagram story post they said they were working on act 3!(not sure if it means much tho)
We are the dead.
@@michaelgreenstreet8182we’re getting there bros.
This song really hits me at heart. I don't know what it is, but that robotic cry from Protoman as he screams to humanity in a hope of convincing them one last time really just bring a tear to my eyes.
This man sacrificed everything he had in hopes to have their help, but now here he is, a resurrected, hollow remake of what he once was, screaming and pleading the truth to them and his younger brother. I think Protoman knew he was about to fall one last time, but if he could use his voice once...
I like how Protoman's "There are no Heroes left in Men" line becomes increasingly more robotic sounding.
The opening is what drives it home. that suddenly soft piano laced with drum beats, and that sudden guitar riff, every single bit heart wrenching and gut churning. Light's words echo. "You cannot do both."
Years later, I still get chills every time I hear "THERE ARE NO HEROES LEFT IN MAN. SO IT BEGINS! "
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i love the distortion that creeps into Protoman's voice when he's particularly agitated, at 4:09 for example
so frigging epic
"But when you fight, you'll fight alone.
And in the end you'll see there was no other way.
I've been here before.
I've stood where you stand.
They called me their hero, The Hero of Man.
But why should we save them
when they stand for nothing?
If they deserve life, LET THEM STAND FOR THEMSELVES.
We've given everything we can.
There are no heroes left in man."
That moment when you think it's the last "THERE ARE NO HEROES LEFT IN MAN!", but it's not and you realize you've actually braced yourself for impact.
Rise and Shine Snake.
Look. The war is over.
LIQUUUUIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDD
Stop you? Why would I want to do that?
I'm so happy to see this comment, exactly how I discovered this wonderful band :`)
@@ulak5150 it was edited so perfectly
And now enters Wily's contingency. Break Man. So named for his primary purpose. To b r e a k the Mega Man.
"Rise and shine, Snake."
The Protoman is the Hero that the masses did not deserve.
But Mega Man is the Hero the masses need.
no, we don't deserve him or any Hero until we can stand up without any hand-holding we don't deserve any hero's
jonathan faber Maybe someday...they'll see a Hero...is just a man...who knows he is free.
He could not save himself. So how could he save us?
Ricky Silverio Megaman was responsible for Wily stepping up his army's activities to crush any growing rebellion.
Lyrics
You're trying to understand.
I told you your brother had been killed.
Yet, here he stands in the very shadow of the man you came here to destroy.
You came here to avenge his death.
You came here to save mankind.
You see now, you cannot do both.
Tell me now.
Is there a man among you here?
Is there no one who will stand up and try to fight?
Tell me Man, is there not one in all your ranks?
Is there not one who values courage over life?
They looked to me once.
Now they turn to you.
Do you understand now?
Do you see that the truth is they don't want to change this?
They don't want a hero.
They just want a martyr, a statue to raise.
I've given everything I can.
There are no heroes left in man.
So it begins!
No matter which one of us lives, the ground we're standing on will crack and blow away.
And you will fight.
But when you fight, you'll fight alone.
And in the end you'll see there was no other way.
I've been here before.
I've stood where you stand.
They called me their hero, The Hero of Man.
But why should we save them
When they stand for nothing?
If they deserve life, LET THEM STAND FOR THEMSELVES.
We've given everything we can.
There are no heroes left in man.
They'll watch you die to save their lives.
They will not stand here by your side.
(Instrumentals)
We've given everything we can.
There are no heroes left in man!
So let them watch as we decide,
the very fate of all mankind!
One thing I love about this song is how the distortion varies in Protoman's voice. The distortion tends to be an indicator of how evil the speaker's intentions are (of maybe how disillusioned they are. It's debatable).
And for the most part, Protoman's voice has some level of distortion. But it's highest when he's badmouthing man, saying they're all cowards. And it's almost entirely gone we asks "is there not one among you who will try to fight?". In that moment, he's not a soldier of Wily, or a man bitter at being abandoned by those he tried to save. He's just a man genuinely hoping someone will stand up, pleading with the crowd to follow the example he and his brother have set.
It really adds to the message of this song. Protoman's goal wasn't vengeance. At least not completely. He wanted to force mankind to stand up for themselves. I don't think what he's done is *right*, but it's understandable.
Hearing Protomen break as he sings is heart-wrenching, but also makes for damn good music.
No you're totally right. : ( As soon as I heard this track, I thought of all the people who protest to no avail, watch TV and unanimously agree that our system is rotten from top to bottom, but can't muster up the courage to break the apathy and risk our own lives or comfort to change a damn thing. And those of us that do try, we just see our dreams crash in front of us, watch as our fellow citizens we fight for just look the other way as a billy club comes down on us. Etc.
Zellig And those that actually do anything are considered either terrorists or suicidal, attention-seeking martyrs.
I'm not sure if this aged well or badly lol
Holy shit...
There are still heroes left in man.
We will be heros, not build them.
I SHOULD NOT BE GETTING THIS MANY FEELINGS FROM A SONG ;____;
Quick Man Oh yes you should.
Julie a song based on an 80s game lolol
God the line "the truth is they don't want to change this" hits hard nowadays.
There's almost no sci fi stories that stand in judgement of humanity and find it wanting. That's why I love this song and album so much. It's a realistic view on humanity.
@@sethwick8348 I feel you. Don't be a tool of your tools
Contrary to popular belief, if you ignore a problem for long enough, it does not go away!
Unless that problem is eating, drinking, or breathing.
In which case, ONE problem will be gone at least.
The problem of living?
Joe was the last of his kind, that's what I hear listening to this. It just leaves me broken, imagining who was or will be our Joe. The very thought that he'll suffer the same fate that our Joe did it I cant even tell what it makes me feel but I want to believe that there are still heroes left in man.
We are suffering that fate now. We just have no Protoman to tell us to our faces... or do we?
No matter what kind of monster he became after being recreated by Albert, Protoman has been and will always be my hero in my eyes. I loved him when I was a kid and I still love him. Long Live Protoman.
Still hit hard years later.
I've listened to the two albums over and over and over for the past two years, and each time I hear them it is like the first time all over again.
Rip Fox, they didnt want a hero, they just wanted a martyr, Break Man continues your legacy ;_;7
+3223Spiderman
There's are show called VGCW a parody wrestling web series about video game characters wrestling each other, there's one character name Proto Man (Now renamed as Break Man) who use this song for his intro. people or fans who heard this song a making the joke about him, like he's a jobber or he's a jerk.
This song is the mirror of "I need a hero"
i could have needed a hero, i stand allone, agains a large group of Nazis, Noone want to call help, so i stand in my own blood...
I've never played a Mega Man game but oh my, this album has some of the most powerful lyrics I have ever heard...
Same!
My teacher loves rock such as zz top and iron maiden and i showed him this. He was amazed and told me i've got a great taste in music.
Stop reading off of wikipedia and just get over it
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Rock music is characterized specifically by being relatively fast and punchy with electric guitars. Metal is to rock as the rapier is to the sword, or as crack is to cocaine. It is the refined, concentrated, most powerful version of the genre.
When I listen back to back between Iron Maiden, and say, Rush, while one is rock and one is metal, it's the same itch getting scratched. The same can't be said for any of the other equivalents you drew, and if you were to find and equivalent where it did indeed scratch the same itch, I would feel the same applies.
@@buttrockman4578 true but I can easily see classic rock band that like bands such as white snake enjoying this as well. Not saying they are the same but just that they aren't super far away imo
@@pantsoverp8849 the comment you are replying to was part of an argument that got deleted and i dont even fully remember the context of, so i dont really have a response for you.
If only Protoman had seen the brave efforts of the Mercenaries who fought against machine
and won
Where is this?
I can picture Protoman coming out of the rubble in slow motion until he is perfectly framed in the shot.
Childhood is idolizing Breaking Out. Adulthood is realizing The Stand makes more sense.
Ouch...
Soon you realize how important both are. The prismatic fantasy of breaking out, and the dark pessimism of the stand are not opposites, but complimentary to each other
My favorite on the album! This whole album, and Act II give me chills.
I know right.
DAILY REMINDER THAT BREAK MAN DID NOTHING WRONG. (Except attempt to use the Gameshark to kill all humans. But that's a minor detail.)
He indirectly killed Grey Fox.
+John Carter nah man he did nothing wrong
IcaraelTheWanderer He is not the Break Man.
He came before, he's the Proto Man.
(woo cross band reference)
Ayyyyyyy The Megas!
David Serback Shit that wasn't ACDC?
To me one of the most powerful moments in this song is 3:36 where Protoman jumps into the middle of the robot army and DESTROYS HIS OWN LEGIONS as he makes his way to megaman.
They didn't deserve you heavy
He died for our funding.
Steak brought me here
This song is 10 years old. I checked
I dont think even Steak knew what he made when he let that video out.
When I was younger, always skipped this one to get to Sons of Fate faster. That was a mistake. This is my new favorite.
I feel you
"I've been there before; I've stood where you stand!"
And here we reach the track in the album than never fails to bring tiers to my eyes.
I’m here because “Metal Gear Solid 4 was a Mistake”
Rise and shine, Snake.
This has no right being as amazing as it is
there might be a day when this album doesnt make me cry, but it sure isnt today
I have a particularly strong memory of this song. I live in Massachusetts, not terribly far from Boston. I was on high repeatedly listening to The Protomen in mid-April of 2013. On the morning of the 15th, I had just gotten off the train coming home from work and I noticed there was a huge crowd on the Train Platform - something very unusual for my small town. While I squeezing through the crowd, I was listening to this song - in particular the speech by Protoman about if there was anyone who valued courage over life would stand up. I silently sung along thinking that this band was right. There are no Heroes left in Man.
That morning was mere hours away from the Boston Marathon Bombing. That crowd waiting for the train was going to Boston for the Marathon.
I wonder if there was meaning in that moment.
Why should we save them when they stand for nothing? If they DESERVE life, let them STAND FOR THEMSELVES!
And the way he says this line: "We've given everything we can. There are no heroes left in man." As if it is just an inevitability is incredibly powerful. His tone is almost bored and heartbroken... A fallen hero Protoman is indeed.
Here 10 years later still listening to all of Act 1
Is it possible... that this is the best music group in the world?
This song inspires me to do the best I can and helped me realize what I need to do
We've given everything we can. THERE ARE NO HEROES LEFT IN MAN!
Best song on the album.
Who's here for the 3h long Metal Gear 4 analysis?
I was here from "hipster please" in 2011, but Steak brought me back, and I want to hug him for it.
SNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKKKEE
You came from mgs4 was a mistake too huh?
@@angelgallegos7509 Your pretty good
@@angelgallegos7509 do you have a single fact to back that up?
Personally I think this is my favorite song on the entire album. I just love the power behind it.
Just realized I've listened to this song 7 times in a row without getting sick of it... jeez.
They dont want to chang this. They don't want a hero. They just want a martyr. A statue to raise. I've given everything I can. There are no heroes left in man. bro was cooookingggggg. 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Gotta love how Protoman's voice becomes increasingly inhuman throughout the song.
Jesus loves you, he died for your sins. Protoman hates you, he died for them twice. - Anonymous
mankind, those living in this city, they had every reason to stay downtrodden. the diabolical schemes of Wily kept them in a malaise, and eliminated anyone who might rise up against him. and yet, a hero still arose. from this oppressive bog of a city, a hero arose. his name was Joe. he lost, yes, but not for lack of heroism or will, but because Wily was one step ahead.
and yet, you, Protoman, the man who was designed to be a hero, the one who had every advantage Light could give you, the one who not only failed, but became the very thing you swore to destroy, you DARE to lecture Humanity about their failure to produce heroes.
you have no moral high ground here. you were never really a hero. a hero is one who fights even when he knows he is the only one left standing.
Nice Analysis
No but he's right though. What exactly have the people done? Were they with Protoman when he went to fight Wily and his minions? How did the masses assist their creation? Did they take up arms against Wily's machine regime?
No, they did absolutely nothing. They put all their bets on Protoman, expecting him to do all the work and solve everything on his own. He failed, so they decided to try again with Mega Man, ditching one machine for another. They sent Mega Man to finish the job, again not doing anything else of their own initiative. No organized resistance, no assisting Mega Man, just let him do the work and reap all the benefits.
The masses had their chance, and Protoman concluded that the people refused to help themselves, thus were no longer worth his time. By Act I's end, Mega Man came to a similar conclusion when he saw them chanting for Protoman's death, begging for his help when the robots showed up. He let them die because they were too apathetic to defend themselves.
Protoman is not a hero, he was just a tool of the masses, a people too lazy to work together, too undeserving of a martyr of any kind. Protoman was right, and to claim he was "never really a hero" is merely shifting blame while feigning innocence. The masses were guilty of apathy, putting their problems onto one character they never understood or tried to understand, a character they saw as a weapon they could use without needing to struggle.
@@mailmanwilly
and what could they have done? its really easy to sit on your high horse and say they should have done "something" but what the fuck could they have done?
explain to me exactly what they were supposed to do, and then explain to me a bunch of oppressed downtrodden people living day by day were supposed figure out and organize an effective rebellion in a city where a seemingly invincible regime of robot masters ruthlessly crush anyone who steps out of line?
they needed a hero not because of apathy but because of lack of ability. even Joe struggled against a single assassin with a knife. to call that apathy is akin to telling the starving masses to eat cake.
@@mailmanwilly
but despite everything i have said, despite all the countless issues that contribute to their continued oppression, this will end eventually.
there will be more heroes, better heroes. human heroes. humanity always finds a way, eventually.
no regime, no matter how invincible, lasts forever.
there will always be heroes left in man.
@@VeryPeeved I do agree that they had no chance on their own. But when protoman was speaking to them they should have stood up and say they are ready to put everything they have into stopping wily. If even one person had stood up and fought, protoman would have turned his back on wily. Them doing nothing but cowering behind megaman was them throwing away their last chance. As now they have no choice but to fight, and now they fight alone.
This song is so damn awesome, and so very tragic
I only heard about this band about a week and a half ago. This has since become one of my favorite songs.
Same, I play videogames all the time, but never got to Megaman. It is on top of my list of games to play now, I am starting it tonight. Protomen is the perfect 'ad' for the game.
the weird thing is, when we listen we are quick to denounce humanity with it's flaws but the depressing thing is, We are humans we are part of humanity, the cowardly humans who'll put faith in that that's not us.
"humans only think for them selfs they are a selfs race that stands for good or evil which ever happened to be most convenient for them at the time"-???
"that's why...! .. its a beautiful thing when everyone comes together as one. at times they will help each other console each other and compete against each other at times even fight and hurt each other...
but when it really matters they will band together stand together!! and that's why I most fight for them and be prepared to die for them
I am megaman!!!"-rock aka megaman "megaman gigamix volume 2"
+fistpump64 *must fight
darn it...
It is. It depicts Wily's rise to power and the relationship between him and light before he took control.
Wily found a loophole: There will be light as long as the darkness "stays until the sun is set". The darkness was removed. Then it came back. Damn these technicalities.
Just beautiful....
Still great
One of my favorite songs of all time
This song is so awesome. I've just sat here and listened to it 5 times in a row drinking my bourbon and coke.
You need to stand by your heroes, for many times no one else will.
September 1st, 2021: Maybe he's right. Maybe there aren't...
Be the change you want to see in the world. So long as you have hope, the flame can be kindled.
My guess is Wily took what he could of him (even if pieces) and tried to replicate him the best he could. Possibly his robots were able to "scan" him before killing him off so he could do what he could to rebuild him. From there, it was just a matter of simply getting a point across Proto's mind that he was fighting for the wrong side.
Break Man is a martyr. ;_;7
+Ryan W.
#BreakManDidNothingWrong
Can someone help me out with the Break Man references? I'm not getting it. But then I haven't heard anything of Act III except for the Hold Back The Night preview.
Break man is the Japanese name for protoman
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Ah. Thank you for clarifying that one.
np
So beautiful..
is it just me, or does this sound like something that would come out of bad speakers?
And no. It's not because i'm listening to this on bad speakers.
GAGFEST2000 its raw and unpolished, somewhat on purpose. it's perfect for an 80s esque dystopian retro-future
You mean a grungy tone, in a respect you're exactly right
The band had just come out of music school when they made this album and they wanted a "post apocalyptic" sound that they achieved by deliberately going against everything they learned about recording sound well.
If that's true, that's very interesting. Either way, 5 years later and I do still love this song and how it sounds.
Anyone else sad that the best summation of our political situation is a dystopian rock opera series based on a videogame?
I'm not knocking the Protomen mind you, I'm knocking our political situation.
Liquid!
I think the fact rhat its about megaman triggers nostalgia and the fact that the story is relevant brings up the feels
The greatest hero of man
This is Act 1 peaking folks.
I could be off base, but I think it's the same thing Obi-Wan told Luke in Star Wars. Protoman was defeated and the hero that he was died, and he became everything he fought against.
Both Wily and Light are robotics geniuses, so it would make sense that Wily just took the scrap heap that used to be Protoman and rebuilt him.
@theartofapodyopsis I meant that in a metaphorical sense. He realized that Joe was like a son to him after he died, having quickly developing a bond with him. He believes (at first) that he is the one who should have died in Joe's stead.
I MUST FIND SOMEONE TO MAKE THIS ROCK OPERA A MOVIE. If not, I shall practically force my school to do a play on it. I MUST.
how did it go
@theartofapodyopsis You never know. Years upon years pass between the death(s) of Protoman and Joe. What's not to say that Light was building a son to fight Wily, only to realize that his other son was resurrected and disillusioned?
Is there not one among your ranks who values courage over life?
there are no heroes left in man
I resonate a lot with Protoman and his resentment due to my autism. People have a lot of preconceptions about autistic people. Some assume we're all savants in hiding, and put unrealistic pressure on us to outweigh our perceived detriment to society.
Others still treat me as sub-human, second class, or straight up alien. I have deep rooted trust issues, I have doubts as to the lasting power of society, and I have constantly had my child-like naiveté abused by by a society that promotes exploitation and predatory behaviours.
Much like how Protoman never wanted his energy core fixing, for fear it eould change him, I don't want to be "cured", and I'm tired of being treated like I have leprosy. Nobody accepted Protoman as he was, not Light, nor Wily, or anyone else.
Even Light wasn't willing to fight by the end of Act I. He explicitly told Megman not to fight, and that he couldn't win.
@TheKayasumaRaider This is 12 years after Joe, thus him saying "There are no heroes LEFT in man" he's saying that there aren't any heroes anymore, not there werent ever.
Dr. Light is doing the monologue at the beginning and it suggests that he knew
IVE GIVEN EVERYTHING I MAN..................THERE ARE NO HEROES LEFT IN CAN
Yeah, that was what happened. It is in the lyrics for Funeral for a Son. It does mention that Doctor Light was about to explain the truth about Protoman to Megaman.
Mankind doesn't seem to want to live until around 23XX judging by how long it takes for any sort of human resistance to appear in the actual games. Depending on what happens in the mysterious gap between classic Megaman and Megaman X, it seems kind of miraculous that they were able to survive that long even with the passive "help" of robots and reploids.
Keep the fires burning.
I just came here to listen to a good song, then i saw that would never happen, because there's a war going on in the comments. Really guys, appreciate the damn music!