8:22 “Mercy has the highest healing output” im no T500 player or anything but no she doesn’t, not even close, Ana, bap, and moira all have higher HPS not to mention that any mercy above plat falls closer to utility than heals because of how often dmg boost should be getting used
I’d argue the majority of everything said in this video is either completely wrong or very misleading, I’m not really sure he was intending for it to be accurate though. It seemed like he was purposefully giving bad info? I’m not familiar with this creator so it’s possible the “jerk guide” thing is his shtick? Idk 😅
Agreed. Hell I'd honestly put Mercy in with the off healers since your main focus should be damage boost, not making sure everyone is topped off in hp. Yeah with her changes she's good at helping people not die with the under 50% thing, but even still damage boost go brrr. And Brig is also an ok main healer now with her pack rework. 15 hp per second to all allies in a 20m radius, and a burst 25hp with an additional 50hp per second for 2 seconds after that? idk about you but that sounds like a crap ton of team healing to me compared to mercy's single target heals.
Mercy has a famously mediocre healing output. Her main usefulness comes from her damage boost and resurrection ability. Her healing is decent, but it won’t save you in a 1v1, Moira’s and Ana’s will.
@@DemonRules Mercy’s movement is not her healing output. A decent Moira will know how not to run out of healing, and a decent Ana won’t miss her shots. High skill ceilings usually mean greater rewards. The skill ceiling for Mercy’s healing is incredibly low. The rest of her abilities have high skill ceilings but her healing is low risk low reward.
@@gummygrenade but in a 1v1 mercy would be harder to pick off. If you are at the same skill level as the opponent in a 1v1 then it will be supp who changes the output. Moira would run out, she cant manage heal for infinity, she doesnt gain as fast as she uses. Mercy is a endless stream of heals, plus a good mercy you cant pick off easily. Im only saying in a 1v1 I would perfer a good mercy cause they would be easier to rely on. Ana has to reload and manage cooldowns and I said moiras
@@DemonRules and endless stream of SLOW heals. Moira has a limited stream of UBER heals, and Ana has a limited burst of high heals. Mercy is only good so long as you are taking damage, and you are moving rapidly. If you’re a roadhog, you’re just flatly better off with a Moira than a Mercy. Mercy is good for Pharah and Genji, but that’s really about it for healing advantages.
@@gummygrenadeI know her heals are slow but what nobody has besides her and lucio is 100% consistent heal and in a game like ow where 3 seconds can make a big difference, that consistency can overpower a burst. My point is mainly that even though her heals are lower she is still on par with other supports. And besides we all know moiras dont heal. But just genji and pharah?
I'll say this for double utility supports. I'm horrible at this game. But I'm really good at pulling off the dumbest last minute plays as Lucio. Overtime timer was about to pop, the payload was within spitting distance of the goal, our team was recovering from a wipe, and the only people available to try and save the game where me and the Zen. Neither of us were aware of the other's ultimate status, but mine was charged, and theirs was almost charged, but wouldn't be ready to pop before the overtime ended. So i made a mad dash and ulted halfway to the payload. I made it to the payload and survived a few seconds before getting turned to Swiss cheese. Overwatch timer starts moving again. The rest of the team has just respawned. They shouldn't be able to make it in time. But the Zen got caught in my ult. I bought enough time for their ult to pop, and they just wouldn't die. The enemy was so focused on the Zen that we managed to wipe them and win the match. Again, I'm horrible at this game. But the people I was playing with admitted to me and the Zen that we wouldn't have been able to win without that ridiculous final push that only worked because of our specific characters. So yeah, it might be better to have two strong healers. But two utility characters can do a lot when the chips are down.
Honestly, while I disagree with most of this video it was well made and I believe it got how you and a decent amount of people feel about the direction of the franchise out there. Personally besides heros being locked in the battle pass (level 45) for the first season they're out, I enjoy most of the changes. I'm just glad a game I've played over 3000 hours of is actually getting new characters and content added again. If this means paying for a battle pass or the occasional skin in the shop I like then that's cool (not ideal as a consumer, but what can yah do).
I mean - are we still basically boycotting the store until they make a skin reasonable priced or...? Cause I am still doing it (even tho that hanzo valentine skin was tempting)
Quality or not, battlepasses are a deal breaker. Always have been, always will be. Yes, I did watch all of Rowby's content despite not playing Dead by Daylight.
I’m done with new live service games. Everything that comes out gets so much hype but always sucks. Im just gonna play another 400 hours of satisfactory
1:18 As a Ball one trick (with 200 hours on the Hero), if you're a good Ball player you can literary solo carry your team to victory. You don't need your Supports to keep you alive and you just sort of do your own thing, balling to victory. Even if their whole team counters Ball, you can still dominate them if you know what you're doing. I'll peel for my team if necessary, other than that they are on their own and should not expect me to be front lining. The amount of DPS who fumble at the thought of not having a giant shield in front of them is outstanding. The DPS shouldn't be behind their tanks anyways, especially if they have mobility like Sojourn, Soldier, etc. If you're playing someone like Sojourn or Soldier you should be on high ground, if you're a Tracer or Genji you should be targeting their backline, etc. Sitting behind your tank is doing nothing for the team. Taking space is the most important advantage you can have in a team fight. Also, little side note for all the new players. Always remember this before you start yelling at your teammates in chat or comms: Play with the team you have not the one you want.
@Pashankie They had to lower it so she wouldn't just pocket tanks. She's honestly really good at healing everyone but tanks and a skilled mercy is nearly impossible to kill. She's still a game changer but I find that most people don't know how to move around with her and have poor decision making when it comes to who to heal and who to rez. A mercy main above diamond rank tend to be infuriating to deal with and a boon as an ally. Below that, however, especially below diamond, a good mercy is hard to find. I will also add that they didn't want to keep just a single healer being able to heal a tank like the old days, they wanted to find ways to have both supports work with each other in keeping a team alive. When playing Mercy, your healing focus should be to pocket dps and protect your other support. Pocketing a tank should only be done when necessary or when being supported by another support.
@@metalvox89 I hope you know tanks weren't the problem with mercy before, it was pocketing dps (mainly sojourn) and her incredible movement. now she's actually even better at keeping tanks alive due to the 50% extra healing below half health
Mercy can arguably be called the worst support. Single target, short range, and slow healing while damage Amp is laughably low. Needing to switch to a pistol compared to literally everyone else is sad. The one thing mercy has going for her is her dash and res. And her dash was nerfed in the last patch. Please blizzard buff mercy for us mercy mains.
@@vivalameme6341 1. Short range is made up for with incredible mobility 2. Slow healing but the healing is actually better because it takes the dame amount of time to bring someone from low to max HP due to the 50% increase when below half health, making her EVEN stronger when pocketing dps heroes. 3. Calling damage boost "laughably low" has to be some sort of joke. It leads to breaking many damage thresholds like allowing characters to one shot or two shot characters when they normally wouldn't have been able to, all the while boosting ult charge gained by both herself and her pocket. 4. She is hands down the most survivable support (arguably second to kiriko maybe) with her movement (which is still amazing post nerf) and especially the fact that she HEALS HERSELF now while being shot as long as she's healing a teammate; she doesn't even need to be out of combat anymore. Don't even get me started on the 90 healing/sec across multiple teammates in valkyrie with the recent change. Look at how many people in top 500 play mostly mercy and tell me she's the worst support again.
"Instead of wishing for a pot of gold at the end, you should have just appreciated looking at the fucking rainbow." Damn I didn't expect such a banger quote from you today but I'll gladly accept it.
Honestly if they want to get rid of counters that’s fine but they will have to do something like Siege or other games where you will have a ban phase. Whole lobby votes together to remove one from each role or some shit idk. As the number of characters increases it will become a necessity
@@xornedge8204 I get flamed in chat every game by the enemy supports. I can very much see Tracer and Genji being banned a lot. That aside, I would LOVE to ban Widow in every single game. But that's the problem. People that main "annoying" characters don't get to play the game, especially in higher elo where the "annoying" characters dominate. Widow WOULD be banned every game past Plat. And after Widow, Tracer or Genji. Assuming it's like Siege, both teams would get at least one ban. Strong characters people dislike playing against just wouldn't be playable.
@@QrowxClover imo banning annoying characters over banning strong ones is a waste. Genji and Tracer CAN be strong but most of the time they are not and it’s easy to shut them down. Get a good main that can deal with that and sure, it will be an absolute nightmare but it would also be a nightmare to instead have a Soujorn in 90% of your games instead of 1-2 games against a good Tracer. It’s just my Silver opinion though so I might’ve missed the mark by a lot but that’s how I feel like it would work. People would eventually overcome their bias towards their counterpicks and would learn to only ban characters that are actually OP for that rank range.
7:39 everything your saying is wrong. Mercy is behind kiriko on healing output, she’s good for her utility(damage boost mainly and also Rez)and her movement/survivability. Mercy’s value depends on the meta dps, she’s good right now because she enables sojourn to one shot. You can also have two supports from the right side of the line but it’s harder to use effectively. For example brig zen was the meta support duo for the last 6 months to 1 year of ow1 because discord orb helps ball and dva get quick kills and brig just protects the zen. The team relied on health packs for healing.
Love how to properly talk about OW2 you can’t just talk about the game, but the live service around it. Overall I think the game’s fine, but it’s irritating how the community could literally never be pleased. Stopped playing it, but it’s wild to me we went from things like joking that Roadhog’s hook is useless to Roadhog’s hook is game breaking, to Roadhog’s hook *was* always game breaking, and we should hate anyone who plays Roadhog now and forever.
the problem with hook and 1 shots in most videogames is that they are usually game breaking and the only way to fix them is buy making them near usless, like snipers in most games are gamebreaking and not fun to play against, shotguns are usually always too strong or too weak, and other 1 shot weapons are balanced out by being extreamly slow in 1 way or another and they are not fun to use nor play against (rpg from cod for example). the only balanced 1 shot weapons are ones from halo because they require u to take map control in order to get them
@@notnotline nah, it was just an example. same applies for Orisa, Mercy, Mei, Junkrat, Cassidy, etc. the community goes around in circles over what heroes are/aren't problems. Which is fair enough when relating to a current patch, but fact people take it personally/imply it was always a problem is what irks me.
ow community is like politics for every change there are 100s of forum post on why it’s bad and will ruin/kill the game and why their change would be better, some people still want 6v6 double shield back to this day
Honestly your takes are hot. Haven’t finished the vid but had to stop at calling the game MORE competitive than OW1. Definitely would have to disagree lmao. Edit: Mercy does NOT have the most healing output 😭
It’s really not. His skill ceiling makes him an iffy choice. The hard part is as ball you think you’re doing so much in the back lines while your team is getting dunked on
11:30 I love the amount of lazy righting he obviously does out of satire "whatever png I put in screen" I feel like he is genuinely lazy but makes it seem satirical
@@breadaholic6445 After the changes, if the person is below 50% health, she heals for 67.5/hps. To give you an Idea, Ana can miss 30% of her shots and never use her grenade, and would do about the same amount.
I played this game on release. Well, overwatch "1". Played it for about two-ish years then dropped it given how bad the fun-to-salt ratio for me was. Was more stressed and mad than wasn't. Then I bought it on for PC a couple years back, played a bit, got bored and left it. I come back some time after the big 2 drops, find out I can merge accounts, get my stuff from console back (most of it) and been on and off since. I can say that the community has gotten a little bit better and it's not as salty as I remember it being, though that could be attributed to maturation on my part. But props to blizzard for actually making a system that makes me wish for lootboxes back.
I like your video but u clearly never played heal. Mercy can get outhealed with ez by ana, moira or even bap i think. mercy is stronge because the dmg boost works out well if u have good dps. And moira has one of the best 1v1 potentials. Lifesteal while fighting, heal orb for more sustain and fade aka exit button
saying mercy has the highest healing output is straight up wrong, mercy is a pocket healer with high mobility, she is almost on the other side of your healer spectrum
@@DemonRules hm yeah kinda. But the burst healing, or healing when it actually matters is better with Ana and Baptiste. Healing per second is higher. Mercy is good for pocket, for pure healing I would always prefer an Ana
I think Overwatch has the issue of live service games having no real PR. I mean Public Relations as opposed to just marketing and updates. When people start forgetting that there are real people working on the game, things get sour really quick. And similarly to most creative endeavors, it's difficult to be passionate about working on someone else's baby if they aren't passionate themselves.
@@lilwintery6434 The lootboxes. They gave you every skin in the game for free, all you had to do was play. How is loosing them a problem? Well, now to get the amount of rewards lootboxes allowed for in overwatch 1, you'd have to pay several hundreds of dollars at least, if not thousands. And you're forced to, otherwise you won't get shit or will get measly scraps.
Gameplay is still great, 5vs5 is a nice change. I mained support until I finished the BP and didn't want to play ever again. The weight on your shoulders as a support asked so much of me, positioning, priorities, awareness to absolutely everything, dueling to keep my ass alive against flankers, or fuck me even tanks, all this shit for so little reward because my effort was just a token that others would decide what they would do with it. They would either make use of it by working together and winning, or just completely ignoring it and losing us the game. It just wasn't rewarding whatsoever.
I liked just for that Super Smash Bros comment. Ive been saying it for years and this is the first time Ive heard anyone else bring it up. Competive SSMB saw multiple meta changes in its 7 year run without a single update from the day it was release. The player base was forced to get creative beacuse they had no one to bitch to. No game is ever perfect but 80% of the issues OW experiences stem from the player base DEMANDING changes every 5 weeks or theyll jump off a bridge. Like GOATs was a problem for sure but the pure vitriol that was spewed because it wasnt fixed "immediately" was insane. The issue is too many gamming communities today have these hyper-players that sink 30+ hrs a week into the game and theyre super vocal on forums and social media. You know were you cant get hard countered, chain stunned, or one shot? Outside where the grass grows. The Devs know that theres issues, stop flipping tables because your main because your main became "unplayble" for a few weeks. So much entitlement.
There's a lot I can rag on about Overwatch 2, from predatory monetization, to axing long-standing features like post-game accolade votes and "On Fire" status, to the reduction of 6v6 combat to 5v5 by axing a tank slot, to effectively killing Overwatch 1 in order to herd the entire playerbase into the "new" game which is basically several years worth of content, updates, and balance tweaks with "sequel" slapped on the side. But the biggest act of scumbaggery is the fact that the claim of OW2 being "free-to-play" is a load of BS. New players are required to submit a post paid phone number, meaning that you need to pay for a monthly phone plan in order to even access the game to begin with. Long Story Short: Blizzard has effectively passed the price tag of the game to cellphone providers, and basically made the game _more_ expensive to play. Leave it to Blizzard to make me prefer Loot Boxes and a content drought over Battle Passes and overpriced cosmetics. If they think I'm sinking a single penny into content we've been able to earn for free for the past few years, they have another thing coming.
I didn't complain about the new heroes having to be paid for because this game is FREE TO PLAY. It costs money to run servers and pay employees to make a game like this. I'm a man in his 30's making six figures (for perspective). But I have no issue paying money to a service like this for a game IF I love it. I play(ed) Smite for so many hours but I bet I spent hundreds of dollars on that game over the course of a decade. TBH: It was worth it. It is a quality game and provided me with an equal service.
Everybody knows the support section is just misinformation. It's not a slider. Different support heroes have different utility and different healing. Anna has really got a both, but no mobility. Zenyata has really high damage. Is really good at marketing targets. But has bad healing and no mobility. Mercy has relatively bad healing. But a fucking insane movement. And the ability to buff damage.
1.Personally sombra deserved to be nerfed. In the start of OW2 beta she was meta and oppressive cause CC isnt fun. 2. Idk when the script was made but ball is meta. 3. Ashe is sniper midrange hero. If you are playing with your tank you are doing something wrong. 4. Zen and brig right now is a good support comp not the best but not the worst like any comp with moira is bad. 5. Also buying heroes yeah it is dumb but it is prolly needed to keep content flowing. Ofc you can also wait for the next season and win 35 games which is like 3 days worth that includes losses. 6. Ana is a good counter to hog but kiriko exist. 7. Right now the meta of the game is very healthy, you can buff a few heroes but eh. The only hero who can be seen as a issue is ball cause of CC 8. Stands on flat ground get shattered "Why did that hit me?" 9. Wish Ramms vortex did effect flying heroes more. 10. The battle pass is cheap in my eyes and the content is pretty good from it. Hopefully it can be cheaper though
I knew it was bad when Overwatch started using Paladin's business model. I know Activision and Blizzard are pathetic corporations, but copying the game that copied you is a low I never thought I'd see from a triple a game. It's sad that people miss loot boxes. Yeah the game without stuns and CC is more free, but the 5v5 take any casual aspect out of the game. 99% of players are casuals who will hop on to play quickplay and maybe a comp game every once in a while. Most people aren't obsessed over balance, they just don't want heros to be oppressively good. Overwatch was never balanced and that's what made it fun. Every hero was broken or quirky, but Blizzard only listened to the top 1% of players and balanced the game to cater to high level comp. Even that they failed at tho, in a vain attempt for comp balance they made the game less balanced
Pretty small note on a subject not even really important to the video.. but here's how I see the DPS "subclasses" -Classic FPS -solider 76, Cassidy, Sojourn, Ashe I call it that because there kits mirror big FPS titles... primary hit scan or feels exactly like hit scan , a small burst mobility move or one that isn't over powerful and some sort of grenade or for 1 case a Utility ability -Flankers- Reaper , Genni, Sombra , Tracer have abilities that let them get to there flank positions and / or safely escape if in trouble most also have good short range burst attacks -Long Range - Pharoah, Echo , Hanno, Widowmaker pretty simple have long range primary and uses verticality to get good angles and stay away from enemies those that don't have great verticality have mid range abilities to compensate and those that do have less options or next to none at all. -Utility- Symmetra, Tourborn, Bastion, Junkrat basically use some sort utility weapon or trap that they depend on and has separate health and does damage or assist player and teammates in some way And should be a tank - Mei barrier ability... self healing... low range main attack.. just saying Obviously some of these don't fit as.well as.others as more and more come they will make more and more heroes that are half one and half another or 1/3 of 3 different things which is good imo as it would get boring sticking to a stiff playstyle for heroes
4:50 No, because Genji and Rein mains and people who enjoyed seeing them nanoblade and shatter for the 3589012751738th time disliked Sombra's gameplay that interfered with theirs so, all together, they just throw a massive fit till they can back to their insanity of watching the same clip of either a 5k blade or shatter.
My friend really really complains about balance and stuff in every game. in OW he likes to play DPS and whines tank DMG, keep telling that maybe you are in bad psoition, ignores it and goes again to face hug enemy Tank, He genuine feels like tanks should not be any threath, he complains Moira often aswell, tell him about whats Moira DPS and whats vs Hes hero, that maybe Moira is balanced he just yoinked the shots :D
Tbh one of the worst things in OW2 is that you can get a New hero via paying or grinding. Like I don't have many time for games now cause I'm trying to study for my exams so I can't grind but I don't want to pay for battle pass only to get New hero and don't upgrade BP further, cus I don't have so many time, so my money Will be wasted. I know, money and so on, but OW2 isn't brawl stars. OW2 is a big game from big studio with lots of money. Why it has to be this way (
Anyone else think the change to 5v5 was dumb Like yes, double barrier was horrible but a simple fix of Main Tank role and Offtank role would've fixed this. Also Echo is the best Phara counter
Most of the super agressive balancing is done FOR fun not for balance, you said it youself pharah is a noob stomper. The issue is pharah is also not actually that good. The reason they want to change her is because she isnt fun to play against. If you want to load into a map and play a bit of genji, or maybe some mei, or maybe some sombra then being forced to play ashe to deal with one dick on the enemy team isnt fun. Same applies to a bunch of other characters theyve changed. Sombra for example, basically makes doom and ball unplayable but was arguably really weak for a lot of overwatch 1 but still recived changes in the hope of fun. I wont argue that these changes dont make the game less unique but I think you have to draw a line somewhere between intresting to play as and extremely boring to play against. I hope they touch on reaper next becuase hes not even fun to play as and I just want to play winton man, at least sombra was probably fun for the people fucking me over :(
Honestly main thing that bugs me with ow2 rn is the hike in skin prices to crazy levels. Especially for new skins. A new characters legendary skin should not be almost double that of a ow1 characters legendary. Maybe make all of them that price to start but slowly make them cheaper. But for what they want us to pay for skins and so much more. It honestly really saddens me to see the game go to such greedy lengths. And note I'm. Someone who disliked the loot boxes in the first game for the overall randomness, but at least they gave coins more consistently to buy skins rather than barely enough through an entire season for one classic legendary skin 🤣
Love the video. Found the DPS spite towards Support hilarious. I respect being hated for keeping the team alive and I further respect you trying to kill supports instantly because otherwise people wouldn’t fucking die lmao. Also I would say the support passive gives them more responsibility but towards the team. With one less tank- the team needs heals more often so saving your cooldown for your team and making sure you survive on your own is like budgeting to make sure you can feed your children so they can keep you alive when you’re old and useless . Awesome vid. Pretty fun to watch.
If you don’t play Role Q and instead do Open Q, the way the game was originally meant to be played, you can have even more of a blast by not feeling like a role but instead feeling like a player. Role Q is a flawed design that makes the game infinitely less interesting. If one member sucks, you lose and there nothing you can do to help it.
OW2 has to be the only game I’ve played in a while that just makes me genuinely sad for no other reason than the fact that I’m playing OW2
Try playing Valorant then 😂
@@xornedge8204 suggesting valorant is like giving a crackhead a shovel and telling him theres gold under the train tracks
Don’t play league of legends.
csgo is the only competitive shooter that doesnt give me stage 14 cancer
@@glockinmyrari445 I wasn’t recommending the game. I was implying Valorant is even worse
8:22 “Mercy has the highest healing output” im no T500 player or anything but no she doesn’t, not even close, Ana, bap, and moira all have higher HPS not to mention that any mercy above plat falls closer to utility than heals because of how often dmg boost should be getting used
I was wondering when someone that had played the game would comment lmfao
He also said Lucio has a 3 round burst lol
I’d argue the majority of everything said in this video is either completely wrong or very misleading, I’m not really sure he was intending for it to be accurate though. It seemed like he was purposefully giving bad info? I’m not familiar with this creator so it’s possible the “jerk guide” thing is his shtick? Idk 😅
Agreed. Hell I'd honestly put Mercy in with the off healers since your main focus should be damage boost, not making sure everyone is topped off in hp. Yeah with her changes she's good at helping people not die with the under 50% thing, but even still damage boost go brrr.
And Brig is also an ok main healer now with her pack rework. 15 hp per second to all allies in a 20m radius, and a burst 25hp with an additional 50hp per second for 2 seconds after that? idk about you but that sounds like a crap ton of team healing to me compared to mercy's single target heals.
I was told Mercy has the highest healing when I started but it became very apparent that its not true
when ball is actually s tier rn...
i mean this is a casual player/noob's perspective
but most dont play him.
@@DemonRules he just got a tiny nerf this week but i've seen him a lot this season
"Trial and error'ing their way back to being overwatch 1"-- so right, and I can't wait
This was a really fun video to watch, and the amount of effort is insane!
I hate the idea of no more counters
Souljurn simply existing makes me rage
11:14 I love this descriptor of the off-tanks
Went from DbD to OW2 and you followed me omg
Also, I went from Nurse to Tracer and she's ALSO my favorite character
The entire support category was like the blight c tier incident but done for each support
Mercy has a famously mediocre healing output. Her main usefulness comes from her damage boost and resurrection ability. Her healing is decent, but it won’t save you in a 1v1, Moira’s and Ana’s will.
Even though moira has a limit to healing and ana has to hit shots vs a auto stream with no limits? And what about her movement?
@@DemonRules Mercy’s movement is not her healing output. A decent Moira will know how not to run out of healing, and a decent Ana won’t miss her shots. High skill ceilings usually mean greater rewards. The skill ceiling for Mercy’s healing is incredibly low. The rest of her abilities have high skill ceilings but her healing is low risk low reward.
@@gummygrenade but in a 1v1 mercy would be harder to pick off. If you are at the same skill level as the opponent in a 1v1 then it will be supp who changes the output. Moira would run out, she cant manage heal for infinity, she doesnt gain as fast as she uses. Mercy is a endless stream of heals, plus a good mercy you cant pick off easily. Im only saying in a 1v1 I would perfer a good mercy cause they would be easier to rely on. Ana has to reload and manage cooldowns and I said moiras
@@DemonRules and endless stream of SLOW heals. Moira has a limited stream of UBER heals, and Ana has a limited burst of high heals. Mercy is only good so long as you are taking damage, and you are moving rapidly. If you’re a roadhog, you’re just flatly better off with a Moira than a Mercy. Mercy is good for Pharah and Genji, but that’s really about it for healing advantages.
@@gummygrenadeI know her heals are slow but what nobody has besides her and lucio is 100% consistent heal and in a game like ow where 3 seconds can make a big difference, that consistency can overpower a burst. My point is mainly that even though her heals are lower she is still on par with other supports. And besides we all know moiras dont heal. But just genji and pharah?
The midtown theme really SLAPS ngl, my fav one out of all of the themes tbh
that horn gif put a smile on my face
@@vvm583 agreed
As a Symm main, i miss her 1.0 kit...
I miss OW1
Maybe Blizz will allow past version arcade game modes
I'll say this for double utility supports. I'm horrible at this game. But I'm really good at pulling off the dumbest last minute plays as Lucio. Overtime timer was about to pop, the payload was within spitting distance of the goal, our team was recovering from a wipe, and the only people available to try and save the game where me and the Zen. Neither of us were aware of the other's ultimate status, but mine was charged, and theirs was almost charged, but wouldn't be ready to pop before the overtime ended. So i made a mad dash and ulted halfway to the payload. I made it to the payload and survived a few seconds before getting turned to Swiss cheese. Overwatch timer starts moving again. The rest of the team has just respawned. They shouldn't be able to make it in time. But the Zen got caught in my ult. I bought enough time for their ult to pop, and they just wouldn't die. The enemy was so focused on the Zen that we managed to wipe them and win the match. Again, I'm horrible at this game. But the people I was playing with admitted to me and the Zen that we wouldn't have been able to win without that ridiculous final push that only worked because of our specific characters. So yeah, it might be better to have two strong healers. But two utility characters can do a lot when the chips are down.
Am i the only one that actually liked testing ground sym where she was a support instead and her turrets would heal not dmg
Mercy is a mobility healer she has low healing output high utility with ga and res
BTW do you draw your thumbnails yourself?
When he said mercy had better healing than brig I died inside
Honestly, while I disagree with most of this video it was well made and I believe it got how you and a decent amount of people feel about the direction of the franchise out there. Personally besides heros being locked in the battle pass (level 45) for the first season they're out, I enjoy most of the changes. I'm just glad a game I've played over 3000 hours of is actually getting new characters and content added again. If this means paying for a battle pass or the occasional skin in the shop I like then that's cool (not ideal as a consumer, but what can yah do).
The gameplay footage was wonderfully presented in Microsoft PowerPoint. Nice video!
I mean - are we still basically boycotting the store until they make a skin reasonable priced or...? Cause I am still doing it (even tho that hanzo valentine skin was tempting)
this comment is just for the algorithm. also, is the VA from the start the girl from the jerk's guide to the artist?
Yea that's them
As a ball player, I feel offended.
“The jerk” likes sombra and tracer? Shocker
Gosh now I wanna hear your thoughts about Danganronpa even *more*. Love this video ^^
Quality or not, battlepasses are a deal breaker. Always have been, always will be.
Yes, I did watch all of Rowby's content despite not playing Dead by Daylight.
YO did you know shit has vitamines and minerals, even protein
im still aint eating it
I’m done with new live service games. Everything that comes out gets so much hype but always sucks. Im just gonna play another 400 hours of satisfactory
This sounds like the takes of plat chat.
This video just proves that you Saying "I'm bad at this game 90% what we talk about the character being to high skill or to this is 2 low skill."
Do you play for honor?
I subbed for the cooking analogy
1:18 As a Ball one trick (with 200 hours on the Hero), if you're a good Ball player you can literary solo carry your team to victory. You don't need your Supports to keep you alive and you just sort of do your own thing, balling to victory. Even if their whole team counters Ball, you can still dominate them if you know what you're doing. I'll peel for my team if necessary, other than that they are on their own and should not expect me to be front lining. The amount of DPS who fumble at the thought of not having a giant shield in front of them is outstanding. The DPS shouldn't be behind their tanks anyways, especially if they have mobility like Sojourn, Soldier, etc. If you're playing someone like Sojourn or Soldier you should be on high ground, if you're a Tracer or Genji you should be targeting their backline, etc. Sitting behind your tank is doing nothing for the team. Taking space is the most important advantage you can have in a team fight.
Also, little side note for all the new players. Always remember this before you start yelling at your teammates in chat or comms: Play with the team you have not the one you want.
like people said, the only thing keeping he game even alive, is the porn 34 artist make of it.
I haven’t paid for anything..
Another amazing video like always
Reddit Lucio is the only lucio
Lmao the balance takes in this video we’re hilariously bad
Love the vid, but crota is barely a raid boss bro cmon
Calling hoshi a lady this vid is so wild
„Moira’s 1v1 potential is low”
Every combat Moira watching: „What an interesting hypothesis”
Brah I'm busy fighting a 5v1 and diffing my damage to worry about 1v1s. Heal them? That's not my job lol.
@@CloppingIsMyThing very effective strategy in bronze
I now have my dinner RUclips video
My breakfast one! 😂
I’m gonna make eggs for dinner😎
This was my cooking video. I should have saved it for dinner, instead I’ll play dbd for that
You too huh?
@@tea_baggins7329 my pre-breakfast one
having mercy as "strongest doctor" is such a funny statement
she literally has like the second lowest healing of the single target supports LMAO, when he said that I physically recoiled in my seat
@Pashankie They had to lower it so she wouldn't just pocket tanks. She's honestly really good at healing everyone but tanks and a skilled mercy is nearly impossible to kill. She's still a game changer but I find that most people don't know how to move around with her and have poor decision making when it comes to who to heal and who to rez. A mercy main above diamond rank tend to be infuriating to deal with and a boon as an ally. Below that, however, especially below diamond, a good mercy is hard to find. I will also add that they didn't want to keep just a single healer being able to heal a tank like the old days, they wanted to find ways to have both supports work with each other in keeping a team alive. When playing Mercy, your healing focus should be to pocket dps and protect your other support. Pocketing a tank should only be done when necessary or when being supported by another support.
@@metalvox89 I hope you know tanks weren't the problem with mercy before, it was pocketing dps (mainly sojourn) and her incredible movement. now she's actually even better at keeping tanks alive due to the 50% extra healing below half health
Mercy can arguably be called the worst support. Single target, short range, and slow healing while damage Amp is laughably low. Needing to switch to a pistol compared to literally everyone else is sad. The one thing mercy has going for her is her dash and res. And her dash was nerfed in the last patch. Please blizzard buff mercy for us mercy mains.
@@vivalameme6341 1. Short range is made up for with incredible mobility
2. Slow healing but the healing is actually better because it takes the dame amount of time to bring someone from low to max HP due to the 50% increase when below half health, making her EVEN stronger when pocketing dps heroes.
3. Calling damage boost "laughably low" has to be some sort of joke. It leads to breaking many damage thresholds like allowing characters to one shot or two shot characters when they normally wouldn't have been able to, all the while boosting ult charge gained by both herself and her pocket.
4. She is hands down the most survivable support (arguably second to kiriko maybe) with her movement (which is still amazing post nerf) and especially the fact that she HEALS HERSELF now while being shot as long as she's healing a teammate; she doesn't even need to be out of combat anymore. Don't even get me started on the 90 healing/sec across multiple teammates in valkyrie with the recent change. Look at how many people in top 500 play mostly mercy and tell me she's the worst support again.
"ow2 is the waiting room for the player vs ai storymode." the infinite waiting room might I add
We all miss you Papa Jeff. You were the best thing to happen to this game
Oh fuck off with the Jeff praise. He’s the reason brig killed ow1 and he’s the reason role queue exists. For some reason people
Ignore that
I dunno man we got fuck all for updates
"OW2 is the waiting room for the player vs AI story mode"
What does that make it now?
A waiting room for a better game lol
"Instead of wishing for a pot of gold at the end, you should have just appreciated looking at the fucking rainbow." Damn I didn't expect such a banger quote from you today but I'll gladly accept it.
Honestly if they want to get rid of counters that’s fine but they will have to do something like Siege or other games where you will have a ban phase. Whole lobby votes together to remove one from each role or some shit idk. As the number of characters increases it will become a necessity
As a Tracer main, I hope to God they don't do this omfg
They tried bans before and it didn't work but that's because the way they implemented it before was asinine
@@QrowxClover I don’t think anyone is gonna ban Tracer lmao. It’s like banning Genji every match bc 3 out of 1000 Genji mains are good and carry lol
@@xornedge8204 I get flamed in chat every game by the enemy supports. I can very much see Tracer and Genji being banned a lot. That aside, I would LOVE to ban Widow in every single game. But that's the problem. People that main "annoying" characters don't get to play the game, especially in higher elo where the "annoying" characters dominate. Widow WOULD be banned every game past Plat. And after Widow, Tracer or Genji. Assuming it's like Siege, both teams would get at least one ban. Strong characters people dislike playing against just wouldn't be playable.
@@QrowxClover imo banning annoying characters over banning strong ones is a waste. Genji and Tracer CAN be strong but most of the time they are not and it’s easy to shut them down. Get a good main that can deal with that and sure, it will be an absolute nightmare but it would also be a nightmare to instead have a Soujorn in 90% of your games instead of 1-2 games against a good Tracer. It’s just my Silver opinion though so I might’ve missed the mark by a lot but that’s how I feel like it would work. People would eventually overcome their bias towards their counterpicks and would learn to only ban characters that are actually OP for that rank range.
7:39 everything your saying is wrong. Mercy is behind kiriko on healing output, she’s good for her utility(damage boost mainly and also Rez)and her movement/survivability. Mercy’s value depends on the meta dps, she’s good right now because she enables sojourn to one shot. You can also have two supports from the right side of the line but it’s harder to use effectively. For example brig zen was the meta support duo for the last 6 months to 1 year of ow1 because discord orb helps ball and dva get quick kills and brig just protects the zen. The team relied on health packs for healing.
the fog certainly has revealed a terrifying monster for him to review this time.
This feels like the perfect OW2 review. Pointing out the bad, but not ignoring the good.
Slamming kiriko as sigma is so satisfying yet again doing that to anyway in his ultimate is satisfying 🤣
read the first 4 words of this and thought I was about to catch someone being downbad... turns out I caught myself
@@FourAcesWild reality is rarely what it seems - sigma
ayo???
mercy has less heal than moira, kiriko, bap, ana but hasa constant you still want a main support but you can work with mercy and a off support
The perfect love, homicidal rage relationship
Love how to properly talk about OW2 you can’t just talk about the game, but the live service around it.
Overall I think the game’s fine, but it’s irritating how the community could literally never be pleased. Stopped playing it, but it’s wild to me we went from things like joking that Roadhog’s hook is useless to Roadhog’s hook is game breaking, to Roadhog’s hook *was* always game breaking, and we should hate anyone who plays Roadhog now and forever.
the problem with hook and 1 shots in most videogames is that they are usually game breaking and the only way to fix them is buy making them near usless, like snipers in most games are gamebreaking and not fun to play against, shotguns are usually always too strong or too weak, and other 1 shot weapons are balanced out by being extreamly slow in 1 way or another and they are not fun to use nor play against (rpg from cod for example). the only balanced 1 shot weapons are ones from halo because they require u to take map control in order to get them
you sound like a roadhog main
@@notnotline nah, it was just an example. same applies for Orisa, Mercy, Mei, Junkrat, Cassidy, etc. the community goes around in circles over what heroes are/aren't problems. Which is fair enough when relating to a current patch, but fact people take it personally/imply it was always a problem is what irks me.
ow community is like politics for every change there are 100s of forum post on why it’s bad and will ruin/kill the game and why their change would be better, some people still want 6v6 double shield back to this day
Look at the comments. Everyone complaining about things the video said. No one can agree.
But sombra's hack still stops abilities for 1.5 seconds and she is still considered a counter against ball and doomfist.
Honestly your takes are hot. Haven’t finished the vid but had to stop at calling the game MORE competitive than OW1. Definitely would have to disagree lmao.
Edit: Mercy does NOT have the most healing output 😭
Tell me you're stuck in silver without actually telling me you're stuck in silver.
Guy states that he's been studying overwatch for months. And says ball isn't an good option as tank 😂😂
It’s really not. His skill ceiling makes him an iffy choice. The hard part is as ball you think you’re doing so much in the back lines while your team is getting dunked on
Anyone who knows a couple ball techs can easily make things happen. Especially with his HP being so inflated, he's a very reliable pick.
11:30 I love the amount of lazy righting he obviously does out of satire "whatever png I put in screen" I feel like he is genuinely lazy but makes it seem satirical
Actually, Mercy should be where Kiriko is. She has the lowest healing of anyone that side of the line.
well after the changes she's kinda crazy, not the most healing like he said, but it's up there
@@breadaholic6445 After the changes, if the person is below 50% health, she heals for 67.5/hps. To give you an Idea, Ana can miss 30% of her shots and never use her grenade, and would do about the same amount.
I played this game on release. Well, overwatch "1". Played it for about two-ish years then dropped it given how bad the fun-to-salt ratio for me was. Was more stressed and mad than wasn't. Then I bought it on for PC a couple years back, played a bit, got bored and left it. I come back some time after the big 2 drops, find out I can merge accounts, get my stuff from console back (most of it) and been on and off since. I can say that the community has gotten a little bit better and it's not as salty as I remember it being, though that could be attributed to maturation on my part.
But props to blizzard for actually making a system that makes me wish for lootboxes back.
I'd never thought I would have the perfect specific callout but the support comment is deadly accurate lmao
The amount of misinformation in this hurts less than the comedy healed me
a game that will forever be needed to be installed and i wont no matter how many names my friends call me
This is so much more hype than a skull merchant video. Great video as always!
I like your video but u clearly never played heal. Mercy can get outhealed with ez by ana, moira or even bap i think. mercy is stronge because the dmg boost works out well if u have good dps.
And moira has one of the best 1v1 potentials. Lifesteal while fighting, heal orb for more sustain and fade aka exit button
It's very difficult to take points from this video seriously when there is so much information that is blatantly incorrect.
Overall, I think they did a great job with a game..
saying mercy has the highest healing output is straight up wrong, mercy is a pocket healer with high mobility, she is almost on the other side of your healer spectrum
but what makes her better is non stop healing right? The others have a limits to heals mercy doesnt.
@@DemonRules hm yeah kinda. But the burst healing, or healing when it actually matters is better with Ana and Baptiste.
Healing per second is higher.
Mercy is good for pocket, for pure healing I would always prefer an Ana
@@tobiaslackner7694gotcha, I would go for a bap ig but I'm a ball player so healers dont exist for me. Everytime I go ball tm8 will go pocket the dps.
I think Overwatch has the issue of live service games having no real PR. I mean Public Relations as opposed to just marketing and updates. When people start forgetting that there are real people working on the game, things get sour really quick. And similarly to most creative endeavors, it's difficult to be passionate about working on someone else's baby if they aren't passionate themselves.
Not you saying mercy is a healer and heals the most
mercy has one of the worst healing outputs lol
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Don't, they took away every reward from playing when overwatch 2 released.
what reward did ow1 have besides loot boxes on level up? and how is losing them a problem?
@@lilwintery6434 The lootboxes. They gave you every skin in the game for free, all you had to do was play.
How is loosing them a problem?
Well, now to get the amount of rewards lootboxes allowed for in overwatch 1, you'd have to pay several hundreds of dollars at least, if not thousands. And you're forced to, otherwise you won't get shit or will get measly scraps.
Mercy’s healing isn’t why you play mercy
Gameplay is still great, 5vs5 is a nice change. I mained support until I finished the BP and didn't want to play ever again. The weight on your shoulders as a support asked so much of me, positioning, priorities, awareness to absolutely everything, dueling to keep my ass alive against flankers, or fuck me even tanks, all this shit for so little reward because my effort was just a token that others would decide what they would do with it. They would either make use of it by working together and winning, or just completely ignoring it and losing us the game. It just wasn't rewarding whatsoever.
OW2 feels.. empty... soulless. Like it has been sterilized. It's this weird, underlying feeling that I can't QUITE grasp, but it's always there.
"How we can FIX the game."
Me: whaaa? He knows we have no power here....
Me: *sees later half of the video
Me: I approve this positive message.
So don't get that the wrong way but I think you can use some enthusiasm in your voice
9:04 a *four* round burst of bullets that are easily dodged
I liked just for that Super Smash Bros comment. Ive been saying it for years and this is the first time Ive heard anyone else bring it up. Competive SSMB saw multiple meta changes in its 7 year run without a single update from the day it was release. The player base was forced to get creative beacuse they had no one to bitch to. No game is ever perfect but 80% of the issues OW experiences stem from the player base DEMANDING changes every 5 weeks or theyll jump off a bridge. Like GOATs was a problem for sure but the pure vitriol that was spewed because it wasnt fixed "immediately" was insane. The issue is too many gamming communities today have these hyper-players that sink 30+ hrs a week into the game and theyre super vocal on forums and social media. You know were you cant get hard countered, chain stunned, or one shot? Outside where the grass grows. The Devs know that theres issues, stop flipping tables because your main because your main became "unplayble" for a few weeks. So much entitlement.
There's a lot I can rag on about Overwatch 2, from predatory monetization, to axing long-standing features like post-game accolade votes and "On Fire" status, to the reduction of 6v6 combat to 5v5 by axing a tank slot, to effectively killing Overwatch 1 in order to herd the entire playerbase into the "new" game which is basically several years worth of content, updates, and balance tweaks with "sequel" slapped on the side.
But the biggest act of scumbaggery is the fact that the claim of OW2 being "free-to-play" is a load of BS.
New players are required to submit a post paid phone number, meaning that you need to pay for a monthly phone plan in order to even access the game to begin with.
Long Story Short: Blizzard has effectively passed the price tag of the game to cellphone providers, and basically made the game _more_ expensive to play.
Leave it to Blizzard to make me prefer Loot Boxes and a content drought over Battle Passes and overpriced cosmetics. If they think I'm sinking a single penny into content we've been able to earn for free for the past few years, they have another thing coming.
I didn't complain about the new heroes having to be paid for because this game is FREE TO PLAY. It costs money to run servers and pay employees to make a game like this. I'm a man in his 30's making six figures (for perspective). But I have no issue paying money to a service like this for a game IF I love it. I play(ed) Smite for so many hours but I bet I spent hundreds of dollars on that game over the course of a decade. TBH: It was worth it. It is a quality game and provided me with an equal service.
Everybody knows the support section is just misinformation. It's not a slider. Different support heroes have different utility and different healing. Anna has really got a both, but no mobility. Zenyata has really high damage. Is really good at marketing targets. But has bad healing and no mobility. Mercy has relatively bad healing. But a fucking insane movement. And the ability to buff damage.
1.Personally sombra deserved to be nerfed. In the start of OW2 beta she was meta and oppressive cause CC isnt fun.
2. Idk when the script was made but ball is meta.
3. Ashe is sniper midrange hero. If you are playing with your tank you are doing something wrong.
4. Zen and brig right now is a good support comp not the best but not the worst like any comp with moira is bad.
5. Also buying heroes yeah it is dumb but it is prolly needed to keep content flowing. Ofc you can also wait for the next season and win 35 games which is like 3 days worth that includes losses.
6. Ana is a good counter to hog but kiriko exist.
7. Right now the meta of the game is very healthy, you can buff a few heroes but eh. The only hero who can be seen as a issue is ball cause of CC
8. Stands on flat ground get shattered "Why did that hit me?"
9. Wish Ramms vortex did effect flying heroes more.
10. The battle pass is cheap in my eyes and the content is pretty good from it. Hopefully it can be cheaper though
I knew it was bad when Overwatch started using Paladin's business model. I know Activision and Blizzard are pathetic corporations, but copying the game that copied you is a low I never thought I'd see from a triple a game.
It's sad that people miss loot boxes.
Yeah the game without stuns and CC is more free, but the 5v5 take any casual aspect out of the game.
99% of players are casuals who will hop on to play quickplay and maybe a comp game every once in a while. Most people aren't obsessed over balance, they just don't want heros to be oppressively good.
Overwatch was never balanced and that's what made it fun. Every hero was broken or quirky, but Blizzard only listened to the top 1% of players and balanced the game to cater to high level comp.
Even that they failed at tho, in a vain attempt for comp balance they made the game less balanced
Pretty small note on a subject not even really important to the video.. but here's how I see the DPS "subclasses"
-Classic FPS -solider 76, Cassidy, Sojourn, Ashe
I call it that because there kits mirror big FPS titles... primary hit scan or feels exactly like hit scan , a small burst mobility move or one that isn't over powerful and some sort of grenade or for 1 case a Utility ability
-Flankers- Reaper , Genni, Sombra , Tracer have abilities that let them get to there flank positions and / or safely escape if in trouble most also have good short range burst attacks
-Long Range - Pharoah, Echo , Hanno, Widowmaker pretty simple have long range primary and uses verticality to get good angles and stay away from enemies those that don't have great verticality have mid range abilities to compensate and those that do have less options or next to none at all.
-Utility- Symmetra, Tourborn, Bastion, Junkrat basically use some sort utility weapon or trap that they depend on and has separate health and does damage or assist player and teammates in some way
And should be a tank - Mei barrier ability... self healing... low range main attack.. just saying
Obviously some of these don't fit as.well as.others as more and more come they will make more and more heroes that are half one and half another or 1/3 of 3 different things which is good imo as it would get boring sticking to a stiff playstyle for heroes
4:50
No, because Genji and Rein mains and people who enjoyed seeing them nanoblade and shatter for the 3589012751738th time disliked Sombra's gameplay that interfered with theirs so, all together, they just throw a massive fit till they can back to their insanity of watching the same clip of either a 5k blade or shatter.
people who don't understand overwatch explaining overwatch makes me laugh everytime.
Saying mercy has the strongest healing output is a fascinating take
@@dr.seesaw8894 fax
@@dr.seesaw8894 gives me dunkey vibes ain't gon lie
My friend really really complains about balance and stuff in every game. in OW he likes to play DPS and whines tank DMG, keep telling that maybe you are in bad psoition, ignores it and goes again to face hug enemy Tank, He genuine feels like tanks should not be any threath, he complains Moira often aswell, tell him about whats Moira DPS and whats vs Hes hero, that maybe Moira is balanced he just yoinked the shots :D
Tbh one of the worst things in OW2 is that you can get a New hero via paying or grinding. Like I don't have many time for games now cause I'm trying to study for my exams so I can't grind but I don't want to pay for battle pass only to get New hero and don't upgrade BP further, cus I don't have so many time, so my money Will be wasted. I know, money and so on, but OW2 isn't brawl stars. OW2 is a big game from big studio with lots of money. Why it has to be this way (
Anyone else think the change to 5v5 was dumb
Like yes, double barrier was horrible but a simple fix of Main Tank role and Offtank role would've fixed this.
Also Echo is the best Phara counter
Christ you play dbd AND OVERWATCH. thoughts and prayers
The only thing i want blizzard to change is to revert doomfist back to dps and give his uppercut back
Most of the super agressive balancing is done FOR fun not for balance, you said it youself pharah is a noob stomper. The issue is pharah is also not actually that good. The reason they want to change her is because she isnt fun to play against. If you want to load into a map and play a bit of genji, or maybe some mei, or maybe some sombra then being forced to play ashe to deal with one dick on the enemy team isnt fun. Same applies to a bunch of other characters theyve changed. Sombra for example, basically makes doom and ball unplayable but was arguably really weak for a lot of overwatch 1 but still recived changes in the hope of fun. I wont argue that these changes dont make the game less unique but I think you have to draw a line somewhere between intresting to play as and extremely boring to play against. I hope they touch on reaper next becuase hes not even fun to play as and I just want to play winton man, at least sombra was probably fun for the people fucking me over :(
Honestly main thing that bugs me with ow2 rn is the hike in skin prices to crazy levels. Especially for new skins. A new characters legendary skin should not be almost double that of a ow1 characters legendary. Maybe make all of them that price to start but slowly make them cheaper. But for what they want us to pay for skins and so much more. It honestly really saddens me to see the game go to such greedy lengths. And note I'm. Someone who disliked the loot boxes in the first game for the overall randomness, but at least they gave coins more consistently to buy skins rather than barely enough through an entire season for one classic legendary skin 🤣
Love the video. Found the DPS spite towards Support hilarious. I respect being hated for keeping the team alive and I further respect you trying to kill supports instantly because otherwise people wouldn’t fucking die lmao.
Also I would say the support passive gives them more responsibility but towards the team. With one less tank- the team needs heals more often so saving your cooldown for your team and making sure you survive on your own is like budgeting to make sure you can feed your children so they can keep you alive when you’re old and useless . Awesome vid. Pretty fun to watch.
If you don’t play Role Q and instead do Open Q, the way the game was originally meant to be played, you can have even more of a blast by not feeling like a role but instead feeling like a player. Role Q is a flawed design that makes the game infinitely less interesting. If one member sucks, you lose and there nothing you can do to help it.
I've played many games with Brig/Lucio or Brig/Zen, and killed it. Brig/Zen/Ball is really good.
Battleborn should have been the one to live. Not Overwatch. It was all those people saying it was an "Overwatch clone" that killed the better game.
Dude was doing so good until he said Mercy has the best heals. He did come back from it at least.