How Japan's TINY High-Speed Trains Solved a Big Problem | Mini-Shinkansen review

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  • Опубликовано: 23 ноя 2024

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  • @Simon-Andersen
    @Simon-Andersen  9 месяцев назад +52

    So this video was actually not meant to be released before tomorow (Sunday) 😅 Enjoy the slighly earlier release this week! 🥳

    • @markvogel5872
      @markvogel5872 9 месяцев назад +3

      I'll hold off and watch tomorrow!

  • @barrielui
    @barrielui 9 месяцев назад +52

    Mini-Shinkansen, despite being 'mini' to the normal ones, actually has the same width (2945mm) as most of the European high speed trains like ICE3 and Frecciarossa 1000. Each car has a shorter length to accommodate the tighter bends on conventional lines. The newer E6 series has variable suspension system to achieve stability at high speed on the high speed line, while providing the cornering ability on the conventional line.

    • @PrograError
      @PrograError 9 месяцев назад +1

      I wonder if they want to, would it fit the EU HSLs, gauge issue aside...

    • @rusticcloud3325
      @rusticcloud3325 9 месяцев назад +9

      ​@@PrograError I think they'd fit, since all Shinkansen trains have the gauge of 1435 mm.

    • @zerocool6452
      @zerocool6452 5 месяцев назад

      @@rusticcloud3325 That's no gurantee since the regular Shinkansen are wider than most High speed trains in Europe since they are 336cm wide, only the Regina units in Sweden is wider by almost 10 cm. So they probably probably wouldn't fit anywhere but on Swedish rail lines.

  • @RicciChoi1109
    @RicciChoi1109 8 месяцев назад +4

    10:05 Although it's still more cost effective than building a dedicated one, a large investment was required for converting Tazawako Line and two sections of Ou Main Line to run Mini-Shinkansen...
    1) Closing the lines for a year to allow works being carried out (i.e. revenue lost and needed to pay for rail replacement buses)
    2) Re-laying all tracks from 1067mm narrow gauge to standard gauge, and building new straight line sections are usually necessary
    3) Upgrading the train protection system from ATS-S to ATS-P
    4) Ordering new local trainsets that runs on standard gauge

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  8 месяцев назад

      That is very true, maybe should have given a bit more detail in the video, but thanks for clarifying :D

  • @JBS319
    @JBS319 9 месяцев назад +37

    These E3 trains will be withdrawn beginning this year as their replacements, the E8 series, are entering service in the next few weeks.

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  9 месяцев назад +12

      Ah yes, there were posters about it all over yamagata

    • @Anolaana
      @Anolaana 8 месяцев назад +1

      Looks like it will be a gradual process over the next two years as more E8s are delivered bit by bit. Interesting!

    • @cleasanna05
      @cleasanna05 8 месяцев назад +3

      Sadly the speed increase to 300kph with the E8s will not happend until 2026 when all the E3s are retired. This is due to scheduling and a possible equipment swap. Running a E8 at a higher speed but having it replaced by E3 in case of a issue would Mess up the timetables.

    • @Tachikawa_2006
      @Tachikawa_2006 3 месяца назад

      *plays LOVE Tokkyu Komachi by Zuntata*

  • @shyviking
    @shyviking 9 месяцев назад +16

    Yes, Mini-Shinkansen is a really ingenious solution to a real challenge (some routes cannot bear or justify a full Shinkansen conversion, but still need a fast connection to Tokyo).

  • @DangItshere
    @DangItshere 9 месяцев назад +48

    this is such a high-quality review and a great explanation to the mini shinkansen! also note the E2 series on 4:52 is a special E2 with a dark green-light tan livery that commemorated the original livery of the Joetsu Shinkansen, quite a rare catch!

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  9 месяцев назад +5

      Thank you! Very intresting info about the E2 i was not aware but thats super cool!

    • @pzm9459
      @pzm9459 3 месяца назад

      I would like to clarify that it's not just the original livery of the Joetsu Shinkansen, but it's the livery that JR East's first shinkansen trains (the 200 series) wear. So it also covers the Tohoku Shinkansen. This specific E2 series was repainted to commemorate the railway's 150th anniversary.

  • @timothy__tt
    @timothy__tt 9 месяцев назад +11

    Even if they are "mini", the comforts are still very much all there. Never knew these existed, thank you for the video.

    • @PrograError
      @PrograError 9 месяцев назад +1

      the Mini network, according to wiki, is built due to political badgering, tho most of the routes are candidates for that region's Shinkansen line at one point or even an alternate route to Kyoto. plus the network is for the rural areas on the Sea of Japan coast (Mainline Shinkansen are all on the pacific coast)

  • @shiokaramilk
    @shiokaramilk 8 месяцев назад +4

    Before the Yamagata Shinkansen opened, the Itaya Pass had many switchback sections, which the train had to pass through in a zigzag.
    It was fascinating in its own way, though.

  • @metricstormtrooper
    @metricstormtrooper 9 месяцев назад +5

    What a great journey, I love the Japanese rail system. Seeing the mini Shinkansen work so perfectly is a great example of what can be done when a government values a rail system.

  • @petershillito
    @petershillito 8 месяцев назад +2

    JR Group spent quite a bit of R&D on trying to figure out gauge changing trains so lines didn't have to change gauge entirely in order to have "Mini-Shinkansen" services, but seems all the various attempts have been scrapped. It's interesting, cos when the conversion to Mini-Shinkansen happened, even the local trains had to be changed to fit the gauge, so these lines have a dedicated fleet that can't be used elsewhere.

    • @thatchaphonkaeosuriya8085
      @thatchaphonkaeosuriya8085 8 месяцев назад

      It depends on each JR such as
      JR Tokai (Central): Operate with separate 1067mm and 1435mm because Tokaido Shinkansen is enough to serve all of their operations on the Tokaido site (main) and also some branch lines such as Takayama Line, Chuo Line, and also Tokaido Main Line because big cities like Nagoya, Shizuoka, Hamamatsu, and Kyoto (Shinkansen Station is operated by JR Tokai but the convenience train station is operated by JR Nishi (West)) already in Tokaido Shinkansen but for JR Higashi case, Akita (big city), and Yamagata (Ski resort ex. Zao) do not in Tohoku Shinkansen line so JR Higashi need to build Shinkansen to connect with Tokyo.
      JR Hokkaido: Also operates with separate 1067 and 1435mm. However, the Seikan Tunnel is constructed with a dual gauge to support the Shinkansen (Hayabusa/Hayate) and also freight service that normally travels on traditional lines.
      JR Higashi (East): Like the clip

  • @nagasako7
    @nagasako7 8 месяцев назад +7

    A lot of countries around the world could afford a Baby Shinkansen. Japan keeps it for rural communities. Rural onsen towns have better HSR than many western cities and all US. 😅

    • @qjtvaddict
      @qjtvaddict 4 месяца назад

      The mini Shinkansen is not fast in rural areas

  • @bubbledoubletrouble
    @bubbledoubletrouble 8 месяцев назад +1

    1:10 That's a hotel up there! I have had the fortune to stay in one of those rooms once

  • @RicardoCristofRemmertFontes
    @RicardoCristofRemmertFontes 9 месяцев назад +4

    Wow, that’s a convoluted ticketing/boarding process!

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  9 месяцев назад +2

      Yes its not excatly easy! So many supplements and reservations

  • @michaelhall8586
    @michaelhall8586 9 месяцев назад +3

    Really enjoyed this video

  • @extuceistdoof1438
    @extuceistdoof1438 9 месяцев назад +5

    Great Video

  • @PavlosPapageorgiou
    @PavlosPapageorgiou 7 месяцев назад

    Thanks. I've been to both this and the red train to Akita. It's a clever compromise.

  • @Rh2jsycj82p
    @Rh2jsycj82p 9 месяцев назад

    Thank you for introducing me to this Shinkansen!

  • @jgodfrey546
    @jgodfrey546 9 месяцев назад +5

    Very interesting & informative! I think you are the 1st Euro RUclipsr to show the original Tokyo stn building... Did the pastry shop gve you a discount, by any chance...lol...

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  9 месяцев назад +5

      I feel like they should, gotta flash my ID card next time :p

  • @AndrewTheRadarMan
    @AndrewTheRadarMan 9 месяцев назад +3

    Wonderful video!

  • @2712animefreak
    @2712animefreak 9 месяцев назад +3

    If you're going to Yamagata or Shinjo exactly, the Yamagata Shinkansen barely saves you any time. It takes about as much time to go to Sendai and then take the Senzan line across the mountains. Some Japanese train RUclipsrs compared them and the Yamagata Shinkansen saves you 7 minutes (and some money). If you're going all the way to Shinjo then it's similarly about as fast to take the Tohoku Shinkansen to Furukawa and then the Rikuu-Higashi line to Shinjo.

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  9 месяцев назад

      Oh wow i would have thought the difference would be bigger even to Yamagata and Shinjo, but the difference will be more noticeable to the intermediate stations then 😊

    • @sbeve7445
      @sbeve7445 8 месяцев назад +2

      The point of this shinkansen is to eliminate transfers, which according to Japanese studies provides a 20-30% ridership boost

    • @thatchaphonkaeosuriya8085
      @thatchaphonkaeosuriya8085 8 месяцев назад

      Depends on the train also because some of the train in Sanzen line operate as Ordinary Train (普通電車) does not operate as Rapid Train (快速) and also depends on Shinkansen Train that you ride in Sendai also such as If you lucky enough to find a limited stop like Hayabusa (First stop after Sendai is Omiya (大宮) and passing Fukushima) it can be save a time a lots.
      Note: Some of Yamabiko (やまびこ) that arrive from Morioka (盛岡駅) or Sendai (仙台) will have more stop than Yamabiko that combined with Tsubasa (つばさ) at Fukushima Station
      Note2: Only はやぶさ7号 that is arrived from Tokyo will stop only 5 Station (大宮/仙台/盛岡/新青森/新函館北斗)
      Note3: It is also some risk that train will be late on Sanzen line because it is a mountain climbing track and also only single track (need waiting at passing loop)

  • @cleasanna05
    @cleasanna05 8 месяцев назад

    I took this trip back in 2020 returning from Morioka by getting off at Sendai and changing to the Senzan line to Yamagata, then i did did Yamagata-Tokyo. The E3 is a nice train with a comfortable seating arrangement, and despite having a shorter nose, it still can get up to a respectable 275kph on the High speed section. I normally dont go to Yamagata, but i hope to try this route again once the schedules for the E8 are published.

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  8 месяцев назад +1

      Sounds like a fun trip! I just about missed the E8 by 3 months :( I also went from Yamagata onto the Senzan line and caught at E2 back to Tokyo :-)

    • @cleasanna05
      @cleasanna05 8 месяцев назад

      @Simon-Andersen that's so cool. I only rode the E2 once back when they still were on the Joetsu Shinkansen Tokyo-Niigata. They will be retired this year so I might not get another chance. I passed through Sendai about 10 days ago but I was on the E5 Hayabusa, I went Hachinohe-Omiya then went to the Hokoriku shinkansen to Kanazawa. I only have the Nishi-Kyushu shinkansen to take and I would have ridden all the shinkansen lines in full, except from that small section between Yamagata-Shinjo, but then again this still a conventional line on that section.

  • @asdaneedsfunds
    @asdaneedsfunds 9 месяцев назад +2

    I wonder why the mini shinkansen hasn't been proposed as a solution to the the gap in the network on Kyushu. It seems like any new-build line is not favourable with the municipal authorities, but I would have thought a track gauge conversion to support mini shinkansen would be much more palatable.

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  9 месяцев назад +3

      Maybe they will end up with it, it seems like there is a lot of opposition to the stretch from takeo onsen to hakata

    • @lzh4950
      @lzh4950 6 месяцев назад

      The mini-shinkansen operated by JR East reuses the existing right-of-way that used to run normal-speed trains of narrow track gauge. Doing the same between Nagasaki & Hakata/Fukuoka would probably be more difficult as the existing Nagasaki Main Line between these 2 cities is more winding, hugging along a rugged coastline (probably to minimize the need for tunnels), which likely also lacks space to be upgraded from single to dual track too. The wider standard gauge needed by the mini-shinkansen compared to normal speed trains would probably lead to too much wheel slippage.

  • @suncheeserailway
    @suncheeserailway 8 месяцев назад

    The Akita Shinkansen is extremely special in that regard as there is a reversing station at Ōmagari, meaning that the train has to reverse direction in order to continue travel. It’s surprisingly common in Japan; not sure about other places.

    • @Tachikawa_2006
      @Tachikawa_2006 3 месяца назад +1

      I remember playing the route in Densha de GO! after you stop at Omagari you will head to Morioka to couple up with E2 or 200 Shinkansen Series. Then after you couple up you will stop to Shin-Hanamaki.

  • @volante8657
    @volante8657 8 месяцев назад +4

    me being pedantic, mini shinkansen are legally not a shinkansen, that's why it can never exceed 130kph, the national limit of Japanese trains

  • @maji1201
    @maji1201 9 месяцев назад

    Thank you for coming to Japan. Next time you go to Japan, please try riding the JR Oito Line from Itoigawa to Minami-Otari, the JR Yamada Line from Morioka to Miyako, and the JR Geibi Line from Niimi to Bingo-Ochiai, as the scenery is beautiful. I would appreciate it if you could take a video at that time.

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  9 месяцев назад

      I will keep in mind next time I'm in Japan ☺️

  • @szymex22
    @szymex22 9 месяцев назад +2

    Always nice to see some variable-gauge services. Though 2+2 configuration for what seems to be first class is not common in other countries

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  9 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah its a bit strange, but often its 2+3 in standard on Shinkansen so it makes a little more sense

    • @szymex22
      @szymex22 9 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@Simon-Andersen 2+3 seems a little bit insane, but to be honest, Japan has a higher population density than Europe so it might as well be required.

    • @unknownperson3691
      @unknownperson3691 9 месяцев назад +2

      It’s rather common in many of the new build standard gauge lines. The European loading gauge can never accommodate it however.

    • @LGVRhin-Rhone
      @LGVRhin-Rhone 9 месяцев назад +4

      @szymex22 these trains are really wide so even the 2+3 configurations are wider than the 2+2 seating in europe

    • @lzh4950
      @lzh4950 6 месяцев назад

      @@LGVRhin-Rhone Yup the regular _shinkansen_ rolling stock are almost 3.4m wide

  • @Neo-gd5jy
    @Neo-gd5jy 8 месяцев назад +1

    And most people in my country(Thailand) says 250kmph is a slow speed😂

  • @SamsonOhsem
    @SamsonOhsem 9 месяцев назад

    Very efficient!

  • @markmbalagtas2230
    @markmbalagtas2230 9 месяцев назад +2

    Wow... A Saturday video release?? 🎉🎉🎉 Did you try the pastry?

  • @Charlizzie
    @Charlizzie 9 месяцев назад +8

    2:38 Indeed, Simon!
    7:36 By which JR? There are seven of them.
    7:59 That's for those who don't want to use toilet to pee o poo on purpose.

  • @bertnl530
    @bertnl530 4 дня назад

    At 8:13. Dot they actually turn all seats or are the trains running in "triangles" between three cities in stead of two?

  • @martinnyberg71
    @martinnyberg71 8 месяцев назад

    So they just built a second track of Stephenson gauge next to the original narrow gauge track? Or did they re-gauge the whole line and get new slow-poke trains too? 😅🤔

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  8 месяцев назад +2

      From Fukushima to Yamagata they regauged the whole thing. From Yamagata to Shinjo they regauged 1 track, so there is still one narrow gauge track left north of Shinjo

  • @jfmezei
    @jfmezei 9 месяцев назад +2

    Are the tracks between Fukushima and Yamagata dual gauge or were they changed to only standard gauge?
    What about volates? must the train support different voltages when changing from Shinkansen to conventional lines or are they all the same voltage? I assume not all Shinkansen trains support multiple voltages?

    • @stephenarbon2227
      @stephenarbon2227 9 месяцев назад +3

      It was changed to standard gauge, from memory the line north from Yamagata to Shinjo had one track converted, while the other track stayed as narrow gauge and catered for stopping trains & freight, north of Shinjo it was only the original narrow 3'6". I don't know about different voltages, but I would think all mainline track would use the same voltage, probably 25k AC, as they weren't electrified to after the oil crisis in the 70's [?].

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  9 месяцев назад +2

      The track is all standard gauge to Yamagata, north of Yamagata it's 1 standard and one narrow. Its all AC electrification in that territory, I'll be having a video on that in the future on the nearby Senzan line which was the first to use AC in Japan 😊

    • @rusticcloud3325
      @rusticcloud3325 9 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@stephenarbon2227 As far as I know, the main (conventional) lines in the Tohoku area use 20 kV 50 Hz contact wire electrification. So while the standard electrification for Tohoku Shinkansen is 25 kV 50 Hz, when the train enters the conventional lines it's a bit different.

    • @lzh4950
      @lzh4950 6 месяцев назад

      The E7 & W7 rolling stock serving the _Hokoriku Shinkansen_ run at only 25kV but can run at either 50Hz (the frequency of electricity supplied nearer to Tokyo & east of it) or 60Hz (the frequency in parts of Japan west of Tokyo)

  • @ch4.hayabusa
    @ch4.hayabusa 8 месяцев назад

    Even the economy trains have Bidet's... So jealous. 8:47

  • @darth_yoda
    @darth_yoda 5 месяцев назад

    I really want to Visit Japan but with my economy I be happy to just be able to visit other side of Denmark XD.

  • @PtrkHrnk
    @PtrkHrnk 9 месяцев назад +1

    What type of camera do you use?

  • @kanchanananayakkara8959
    @kanchanananayakkara8959 8 месяцев назад

    Hi Simon! Lovely video and enjoyed! Btw, which site will you recommend for buying JR pass? Thank you! 😊

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  8 месяцев назад +1

      I got mine direct from japanrailpass.net/en/ Its also easy to make reservations in advance on there once you have your pass :-)!

    • @kanchanananayakkara8959
      @kanchanananayakkara8959 8 месяцев назад

      @@Simon-Andersen Thank you Simon!

  • @samtrak1204
    @samtrak1204 9 месяцев назад

    You're welcome!😊✌

  • @doutorgori327
    @doutorgori327 8 месяцев назад

    3:58 that guy was going faster than the shinkansen...

  • @thatchaphonkaeosuriya8085
    @thatchaphonkaeosuriya8085 8 месяцев назад

    Did you already take Hayabusa between Shin-Aomori and Shin-Hakodate-Hokuto (JR Hokkaido)? Maybe you will find other ways to handle traditional trains with the Shinkansen, especially the Seikan Tunnel.

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  8 месяцев назад

      Yes i did! Very intresting piece of railway, video coming at some point in the future :-)

  • @sunglassdubsteps5268
    @sunglassdubsteps5268 9 месяцев назад +7

    Yamagata Shinkansen does not really exist in any official term. It is just Tohoku Shinkansen that does direct service onto Ou Line Limited Express. This also applies for Akita Shinkansen as well.

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  9 месяцев назад +4

      And Osaka metro is a tram, I love these Japanese peculiarities 😆

    • @PrograError
      @PrograError 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@Simon-Andersen no worries, in Singapore people mover on the main system is called the LRT, or Light Rail Transit (the two systems, PG/SKLRT and BPLRT, use Mitsubishi Crystal Mover and the Adtranz/ Bombardier / Alstom Innovia APM 100/ 300 respectively)

    • @cleasanna05
      @cleasanna05 8 месяцев назад +1

      It's considered a shinkansen line still because it does not involve a change of trains, the same high speed train simply branches off, so the train physically goes on the ou line, which is still technically Shinkansen service albeit at slower speeds.

    • @sunglassdubsteps5268
      @sunglassdubsteps5268 8 месяцев назад

      @@cleasanna05 Not in an official rules because for the system to be considered "Shinkansen", the line must be compatible for trains to run more than 200 km/h. What you said about not involving a change of trains is a case of through-service, which what people call Yamagata Shinkansen is a through service between Tohoku Shinkansen and Ou Main Line Limited Express.

    • @cleasanna05
      @cleasanna05 8 месяцев назад +1

      @sunglassdubsteps5268 I'm aware, I've taken the line. I know it's not considered a high speed rail route technically, but the service still allows access to the shinkansen network with the same rolling stock. Hence is advertised as a shinkansen route.

  • @qjtvaddict
    @qjtvaddict 4 месяца назад

    Mini Shinkansen is nothing more than a one seat ride of rural trains using high speed equipment going through running rather than a transfer

  • @norikaesan
    @norikaesan 8 месяцев назад

    Very nice movie😊

  • @suncheeserailway
    @suncheeserailway 8 месяцев назад +1

    Now if only Saga Prefecture could open up and at least consider the technology for Nishi-Kyushu Shinkansen.

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  8 месяцев назад +1

      Lets hope, the current situation is absurd.

    • @lzh4950
      @lzh4950 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@Simon-Andersen Apparently the reason Saga prefacture didn't want to fund its part of the W/ _nishi-Kyushu Shinkansen_ is because it'll bypass its towns, which are along the coastline & thus more difficult to be served by the straighter track alignment needed by _shinkansen_ , which would also divert ridership away from the existing normal-speed Nagasaki Main Line that does serve those towns, & lead to train service cuts along that normal-speed line. Thinking if Nagasaki & Fukuoka might be willing to make up for the funding shortfall or compensate Saga since the former would benefit the most from this _shinkansen_

    • @qjtvaddict
      @qjtvaddict 4 месяца назад

      @@lzh4950 just have normal speed line be diverted to Shinkansen stations for easy transfers

    • @qjtvaddict
      @qjtvaddict 4 месяца назад

      @@lzh4950Shinkansen is a de facto EXPRESS TRAIN ON DEDICATED TRACKS

  • @Error763
    @Error763 8 месяцев назад +1

    If you want another hybrid high speed route to try, you should try the Class 395 Javelin services from St Pancras, even more interesting is that the change from overhead wires to 3rd rail!

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  8 месяцев назад

      That is also a cool train! On my list when when I eventually get around to visit the UK again

  • @NikonF5user
    @NikonF5user 8 месяцев назад

    I am fascinated by the ubiquitous use of English around the world...

  • @Computer895
    @Computer895 3 месяца назад

    I thought mini shinkansen were narrow gauge 1067

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  2 месяца назад

      No, they are all either converted or railway lines with both gauges (narrow and standard)

  • @ブレンダーにはまってるるぅちゃん

    bruh that yamabiko sticking at the back is one of the rare painting...the revival colour of the old shinkansen!

  • @LioDigitalTech
    @LioDigitalTech 9 месяцев назад

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  • @paulthiel5145
    @paulthiel5145 9 месяцев назад +1

    And here you will find the urinal...for the men.
    Glad you had that clarified 😂

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  9 месяцев назад +1

      Just in case you were in doubt 😂