How secure is America's electric grid?
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- Опубликовано: 15 май 2024
- Bill Whitaker reports that a coordinated attack on a relatively small number of critical substations could plunge the U.S. into darkness.
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Whoever is doing this just did it in Moore County, NC today. This is near Fort Bragg, NC, the largest army base in the U.S. HSI or the FBI should be investigating this immediately before they knock out the power to the Army Special Operations Command. 30k people do not have power in the area.
I just saw this
Pretty cool 😎
Ft Bragg has its own utilities and department of public works to be self sustaining.
@@josemaldonado9093 preach!
Satelites in sky already know who did it. Traffic intersection cameras knows who was there? Tracking devices on phones and cars know who was right there at the exact time shooting hsppened. Why keeping it a secret unless it was a government inside job?
Also, you can't get GAS from a pump when the grid goes dark.
Imagine EV charging stations?
You're not getting Squat.
no pumps to bring water to homes either, and much more.Prepare to be able to live like little house on the prairie days.I am prepared but scared what the other clueless,lazy people will do.
Relax! I have nuff farts to fill everyone's tank 😉
You can't get money to pay for the gas that never got ordered or put in the ground for you not to be able to pump it when the power is out... And the WiFi being shutdown would destroy us within a week... Would be complete choas and anarchy
Archimedes would disagree
Nine years ago and the power companies still haven't done anything to fix the problem? Sounds normal. You should also look at pipelines, chemical plants etc.
You make it sound like it’s an easy fix. And by the way… things have been done…. Just because it wasn’t in the 60 minutes episode doesn’t mean nothing has been done.
They plan to give us "order out of chaos".
Not a single thing has been done…aside from the military and their materiel.
Welcome to my America
The question to what that man said at the very end of the report when he said that the WH needs to convene a meeting of experts to identify the biggest threats to our grid should not be "is it being done?" but rather "why isn't it being done?"
Who said it isn't? The successful operation would be the one we never know of.
@@jakebarnes28 yet they advertise ustvhow vulnerable they are, outline what someone would have to do, include some individual
@@jakebarnes28 I was referring to Bill Whitaker who didn't ask it.
@ANN SMITH I would point out to you that there are probably already guidelines that has been put together that would likely consist of several large binders of information.
They know what the threats are
The State and Governors need to step up
Came here to rewatch this after seeing the targeted attack on the North Carolina grid. This could happen to any electrical grid in the US and we need to be concerned about just how protected are our grids from any type of terrorist activity.
IMHO, we are NOT protected enough. So much more to do.
Our grids will fail in the future because of global warming anyway. Time to rethink energy use and sourcing for more than one reason.
Joos CIA. FBI. NSA. DOD..
ALLguilty of high treason
@@kevinelwell8151 not protected at all lol
We should be more worried about an EMP threat.
How far human civilization can go if everyone works together.. . . .
I've gone horse talking about how far mankind can go through cooperation. Totally agree with you.
I support Putin
I'll cooperate with you guys.
Problem is too many are still under delusions and won't give them up.
We would have to get rid of the evil deep state. They are seriously holding us back.
@@szee8588
Kind of hard to get people to work together, when so many people are having sudden heart failures due to being duped by the evil deep state to get the "poison jab". I hear according to some zombie movie, it wasn't the virus, but the "cure" that turned people into zombies. So many movies and video games tried to warn us, yet we still do not listen?
And look at all those people who still think that manned moon landings happened for real? Do they not realize that most everything on the liar TV, is fake? Even the fake news apparently. I would think that stolen elections should be big-time news? Well not so much if the news doesn't care about truth, but rather pushing the evil narrative?
Some on the comments are upset that the story is out. Very likely that Russia and China and others already know about it and didn't need a TV show to inform them.
Not only that. They already " sit" in our SCADA systems.
People need to be guarding these power stations now sooner rather later
So why can't we have Tesla's free-energy machines? I suspect that they have had working prototypes for a half-century at least. We should have had whole-house free-energy machines by now. Why do we have such yester-century technology in our cars and our electricity grid? Why must everything be so centrally controlled or manipulated? Communism and poverty-promoting much? Satanism much?
And you can tell that there is little interest in solving problems, because they won't talk about developing thorium nuclear power either.
We need to install Fuel Cells in all homes, buildings so it will not affect anyone! Get off your BUTTS ITS OLD TECHNOLOGY!
I'm truly surprised this doesn't happen all the time.
Who says it doesn’t? They wouldn’t tell anyone.
@@randydaytona5615 You do understand that this was a year ago, right? As for if it happens MILLIONS of people will be affected and there's no keeping that quiet. We're talking grids not localities. Since then government entities have talked about how vulnerable our power grid is and how they believe the amount of enemies invading from across our borders will see our power grid as the easiest and most devastating target. Did you know transformers from small pole transformers to the major transformers have a replacement lead time up to 5 years? We don't make them in the US. I have made plans and preparations to live totally without electricity. If our ancestors could do it, so can we.
Mr. Whitaker's Reporting is Terrific. This is a great Story. An important one too.
Nut cuppin
This is unacceptable. As the Federal Government, you can be very persuasive with these companies to harden their security measures. Especially when it comes to National Security. Either deal with it now or be forced to deal it with later. It’s common sense.
So you're all fine with your electric bills going up 10x? Don't mind paying $3000+/Month for electricity? Keep that attitude...
Hilarious that we ask or expect so much from a corrupt government that obviously is doing nothing for national security, QUITE OPPOSITE with Brandon O'Biden in office.
another reason to go off grid
I could've sworn our grid was deemed critical infrastructure and therefore monitored by DHS.... They are meant to enforce plans aimed at ensuring resilience
"We are from the government and here to help." Why are we not reassured by the corrupt government's lies?
DHS will be your worst nightmare. Do NOT get on a bus to “safety”.
Ronald Reagan. “The 9 most scary words in the “American “ language.” Very very true. Don’t trust any government “help” WHEN this happens
This is one of the disadvantages of linking everything together by computer tech & electronics
> One bad move & we’re done . It’s
Also, a downfall of privatizing everything. There is no enforceable standard and we're leaving security up to private companies that put profit above all else. Has everyone forgotten how quickly a winter storm brought down Texas' utilities run by private companies?
And yet the educated-stupid elitists want to ruin our computers and smart-phones by making them more dependent upon Big Cloud. What could possibly go wrong with that grandiose stupid scheme? Somehow, I expect that a computer or smart-phone should be able to do at least some things, even with no cellphone signal and no internet. Even GPS navigation is possible without Big Cloud, via having previously stored locally onto the device itself, its needed maps. GPS satellite signals can still be received, even in areas in which there is no cell-tower signal.
Thanks 60 MINS FOR PUTTING IT OUT THERE AND HOPEFULLY GOVT WILL DO SOMETHING TO PROTECT THE POWER GRIDS!!!
Or Tell people how to take it down lol
@@Whatnot627 those people already know how. Did you watch the video?
Yawn. A government solution? Why am I not feeling reassured? Zombie ByeDone lost the election BTW.
Moving backup facilities underground is the best idea I can think of .. It is getting past all that "old money" and many owners that share ownership still relying on wood poles
LoL !
First research- why there are wood poles in the areas you are talking about 👈
In allot of places I know demographics cant work it out ... But the Sub stations can go under ground in allot of places
Sustainable energy isn’t buying of Congress and USA presidents, it’s the oil companies who are doing that. Until sustainable energy caucuses buy politicians in Washington DC and locally, sustainable energy ain’t happening.
Did you forget the USA is founded upon profit over people? It’s the American way!
It’s not that easy to go underground with electricity on a large scale. You can’t go underground with a whole substation. Plus underground insulated cables aren’t that efficient versus bare overhead wire. Nor can they handle as much load.
I didn't say wood poles were and above ground was ineffective however backup substations built underground and even walled completely nearby vulnerable above ground sub stations is logical
I remember when that happened at that electric station. I live like 5 miles from it. Passed it many many times. Never thought it’d be a place they can attack.
Where were you that night and who were you with?
@Your Uncle’s Mailman are you trying to eliminate potential witnesses?
You. Disable needed things. Water, electric, fuel, etc
@@DJRenee haha! Yeah let us now how that works out for you.
I live right next to one now. 😳
Thank you for reporting everything no one else will!
I would say that our power grid is wide open ! There needs to be a way to prevent a “domino effect” as well.
Imagine if it was under all one government agency. We wouldn't have power half the year.
Very interesting and informative. Thank you.
honestly I am all about the 1st amendment but don't you think some stories are too sensitive to let those that would use this story on an attack on our grid & how easy it would be should be maybe held as a national security secret??!! It's a thin line on letting out this story to the world!! Think sometimes!!
I understand what you're thinking but really, anyone who would want to do this, already knows all of this.
Wrong, if it wasn’t for stories like this no one would do anything to secure the grid. This is the USA not a tin pot dictatorship hiding important information from its citizens
@@yourunclesmailman420 LOL
Thought the same as you! Watching it made me think, geezz what if this gets seen by someone with malicious intentions?! I understand the power of transparency but at what point do we draw the line of national security here? Made me think of my son who’s deployed in the Navy and their strict OPSEC rules for communications.
I agree
Four million Texans were without power for days last year, hundreds died. The challenge is real. I slept on the floor in front of the fireplace heated by firewood I gathered in the park down the street.
What will you do?
Fix it when it breaks is usually the method. Some of these transformers are the size of a house and require a year of construction and moving. 1 year of us sinking into the stone age
Why do you assume that they would ever fix it? You haven't heard of the evil depopulation agenda of the Satanic deep state? Why do they need to fix it, when they have electricity in their bunkers and underground cities?
Yeah, lots of us work for those "fix it when it breaks and only if necessary" cheapskate outdated corporations, due largely to the greedy bigwigs who misallocate the money mostly for those at the top, or just do not have the money due to the corrupt fiat monetary and taxation system.
You better not break it, or else patch it together with duct-tape and chewing gum, otherwise it might not ever get fixed. Fixing stuff is costly. Who says that ancient crap can't somehow still be coaxed to keep working?
1 year? Try 3 years
Lets tell the world how vulnerable we really are.
There isn’t one country any more protected to be honest.
Trust me, they know. The only illusions this shatters are our own. We deserve to know these things.
WHAT HAS BEEN DONE IN THE LAST 8 YEARS TO SECURE THE SYSTEMS ?
I have been worried about the vulnerability of our grid for years.
We need to design a better system when we go green. And we need to go green.
I should've went off the grid kiving
I’ve been worried about paying my rent and making sure kids did their homework
So China increases their coal use for 6+ years and doesn't have to pay a dime, but WE MUST GO GREEN? Lol...perhaps you should look into the economics and what kind of an impact your so called GREEN infrastructure would make :)
Try looking up how they "recycle" solar panels or the wind turbines to open your eyes a bit...this GREEN BS is a scam to make certain folks lots of money and control you plebes...
Preprogramming.
Thanks for letting us know what your bosses are going to do to us next.
One very serious problem: The train tunnels under the Hudson River, which are over 110 years old.. These are structurally deficient times two. A new tunnel needs to be constructed for trains to use until those older tubes can be renovated. Like the other deficiencies covered by this 60 Minutes video, money has yet to be found.
Biden and communist-Democrat company is too busy sending our tax money to our enemies.
When the east coast went down here in the 90s they had to bring in German engineers to try but a couple old timers that helped at the Westinghouse switching station had to help flip the switches at the right order or it would burn down when my father helped in the 70s they knew then it wouldn't last 20 yrs here we are 40 yrs after still with the same grid my father kept all his prints that were lost in a fire folks you better get west of Ohio for your best chance
How does electricity cost so much money when all the electric grids all over the US are unmanned? What are we paying for? And who are we paying?
Ikr. Just like every company and corporation...Comcast, Pharmaceutical companies, Comed, Cell Phone, Cable, Hospitals, clothing companies etc...they all nickel and dime us, mark up the product 10000 times what it costs them...just bc they can.
Meanwhile they are transferring the labor to China and sweat shops overseas to get it for cheap and then charge as much as they can possibly get away with.
@@dianahill7239 you mean to have earl drive around and sleep on the job???
@@MilkyWayGalaxyy - welcome to capitalism.
@@laqueenawilliams4762 Capitalism? Give me a break. The top companies in every industry collude together to nickel and dime customers as much as possible and to keep out a newcomers into their industry who can offer cheaper prices. Whether it be insurance, cell phones, etc.
Remember when cell phone companies gave us a free phone with a 2 year contract. Then they all realized they can all make a lot more money by charging customers full retail price for phones. So they all started doing that in UNISON!!
That is not Capitalism. That is Collusion!!! Why are gas prices aboutthe same price no matter which gas station/company you go to, give or take 10 cents?
If it was really Capitalism, you would have companies constantly trying to offer a better deal to get as many customers as possible but all the top companies in every industry realized they all make more money by agreeing to keep all their prices as high as possible.
How do you think electricity is being generated, by itself?
Gotta prime the public for any potential disasters that may be coming soon
And yet my mother goes “I know it will be a crime if we go for a day without power.” Morons. People don’t get the severity of the cyber attacks.
Its not a big deal if the word can survive solar winds hack I imagine things are far more secure than you would imagine ! Unless we are talking war level hacks ! In that case good luck the US developed computer viruses that can be installed be the power line its plugged into !
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Isn't that what the Infrastructure Bill was for? Isn't part of that money meant to harden our power grid?
ARE YOU SERIOUS???
The infrastructure Bill is a complete JOKE!!!
It was so padded with garbage, that addressing the actual "infrastructure" only accounts for maybe 1% of the trillions spent!
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THANKS FOR TECHING ME HOW TO STOP THE GRID
This is what I fear about the electrical grid here in Texas. I almost froze in February 2021 and I am afraid the governor has not done anything to keep this from happening again.
What was the temperature
@@pablitoperez9109 Hi In San Antonio it got down to between 9 and 11 degrees. Thank god I remembered to shut off the water to my place to prevent any water damage. I also drained the system. And I still think Greg Abbott has not done anything.
@CIA,DOE,NSA,DOD, n Research Institutes test on You Hi CIA DOE....Do me a favor and send your research to Governor Abbott.
I would take this seriously and start planning. The same people that predicted the covid pandemic also predicted a cyber pandemic. World economic forum if you want to check it out
Oh, you don't need to worry yourself about that, you've got Ted Cruz on the job!
This is in part to a large reason why we need to move to localized energy generation with solar roofs/wind generation and storage built into homes like a Tesla Power wall. This needs to happen to ensure energy is kept both at homes and large business need the same outfit of these systems as well as commercial scaled applications to ensure generation.
They have model engines you can assemble ,quiet & nifty runs without fossil fuel .. enough to power a light bulb lol
Sustainable energy isn’t buying of Congress and USA presidents, it’s the oil companies who are doing that. Until sustainable energy caucuses buy politicians in Washington DC and locally, sustainable energy ain’t happening.
Did you forget the USA is founded upon profit over people? It’s the American way!
Republicans call this communism so it won't happen. :/
@@FurthermoreJack Can it power a gaming computer though? 😁
@@AdamBorseti that's what WE need to work on ... If they can micro chip computers that used to be enormous they can micro chip engines that power computers and whole houses we just have to refine a few things and not get paid off by big money in the electric companies
A lot of the commenters don't seem to understand that you guys reporting this is a good thing. The government already knows there is a problem, but have done nothing. This report helps to begin public outcry which can get them to do something about this.
They are too ignorant to understand how democracy works but thanks for trying even though you’re just wasting time
I’d rather the grid be diversified rather than standardized. That IS our strength. Not having the federal government run everything IS our strength.
Agree 100%... All these ppl whining that the govt should do this and that for everyone just don't understand that Federal govt is the problem not the solution to every problem they try and fix
Clearly it’s working so well 🙄
I mean, Texas had that idea. And then... well... you know the rest.
What America do you live in?
It it was centralized, it would be easier to attack.
Great story! we should focus on vulnerabilities like these, especially with current world relations being in turmoil.
What about a large solar flare, like the one that took out the telegraph not that far in the past....what would/will happen when the next one occurs?
It’s always somebody else’s problem, until it isn’t.
60 Minutes: "How to sabatoge our poorly secured power grid"
Terrorists: "Thanks!"
How to push the govt to do something, thanks 60 minutes
Obviously they already know how to do it. Did you watch the video?
Oh it won’t be an outside job. Lol.
@@XploreAz no
I was with your wife
@@yourunclesmailman420 you mean you were with your mom in her basement.
This is really surprising
That is just great last time the feds secured the power stations I lost my favorite catfish hole until DHS pulled the drones out of the sky !
Pro tip- if you have solar panels on your roof you are more likely to get robbed when the power goes out
No, thieves wouldn't have the first clue how to steal or install such a system, and most are grid intertied in any event.
@@ForbiddTV Don't kid yourself...
@@chriswardell1623 I'm not, I have been doing solar for over 40 years, takes a bit of knowledge to use them and you would also have to steal charge controllers and inverters, both of which wouldn't be on the roof.
It's great that they are sharing all information with companies but we the public needs to find out how to save guard ourselves. Be pro active in order for the public to combat any attacks. We should have solar panels in our homes, propane for heating and cooking just in case the russian,white supremacists or any enemy attacks our grids. Let us know so no lives are at risk.
All of that stuff should be tax free for starters.
Solar panels? The communist Satanic Left, loves "green" wind and solar power, because it can not produce 24-7, it isn't cost effective, and so it never will be a proper solution and most people can not afford it, and so the problem never gets solved by legitimate technologies such as thorium nuclear power, or better yet, Nicolai Tesla's free-energy technology that has no emissions.
"less than twenty". that's shivering..
What is currently being done to protect the grid , now that reports about it have made it even more vulnerable? That should certainly be the most priority-driven question! Why can’t it be built underground …or use the newest technologies to keep damaging attacks from occurring??!
I can answer part of your question for you. Both cost and feasibility are why most large substations are not built underground. Those high voltage transformers generate a ton of heat, so encapsulating them either above or below ground is not feasible. The cost to cool the spaces would be astronomical. As for the rest, I agree more can and should be done from a regulatory perspective.
Becasue politicians would rather divide us.
Money. Our gov't is too busy escorting illegals across the border and housing/feeding/clothing them as well as giving Billion$ to Ukraine...
oh boy i hope so
I had no power for a week after hurricane Sandy.
Its time to watch Doomsday Prepper's again.
How was that? Did your faucets work?
At last, the first big mainstream wake up call for people ignorant of this topic.
No alarm system? Jeez!
Being de-centralized is one way to prevent a complete US grid down. Areas can be isolated and brought back up.
If they would have taken out Silicon Valley, I don't know what I would have done... no, no, wait, I would have gotten a life, yeah, yeah, that's it! I would have gotten a life.
Maybe it was government operatives testing infrastructure. The internet is vulnerable in a similar way. Much of the traffic goes through relatively few data interchange points.
Stupid comment. Yeah… government people shooting up transformers
I think that I would be having some armed troops guarding this and many other sights of different things.
I absolutely agree with what you're saying
@@jennifersmetanko6631 Let's double your Federal Income Taxes to pay for it too!
@@chriswardell1623 I don't need help that 🤣✌
forget standards impose the safety and security that we need, it is a simple as that. Once again our government drops the ball on the important issues.
corporations should NOT have control of any utilities. They are too important to life to leave to the whims of the stock market and the wants of stock holders. We are more important than They. Bottom Line: Corp Utilities wont spend the money to keep us safe. They have to serve stockholders first, not We the People. corporations should NOT have control of any utilities.
Oh while we’re at it… Let’s just go ahead and nationalize everything-!-do you also want a pony?
It’s crazy how I didn’t even hear about this incident
Nine substations, critical to the grid, would cause a nationwide blackout. Imagine a bad actor with small EMPs carried by drones over these substations. The question is, how easy would it be for a bad actor to figure out which nine substations to hit?
PREDICTIVE PROGRAMMING.
We shouldn't even have a grid. We should have millions of small power generators that service small areas.
I can’t imagine that would be very efficient.. nor would it allow us to be resilient if one area got shut down. As it stands, other areas can supply power to areas that get shut down..
Ok Edison
This is a terrible idea.
Tony Seba says we’ll have a more decentralized energy grid made of solar wind and battery in 10 years just due to the better economics of renewables. Seems like we need to quicken the pace of decentralizing our energy needs for security reasons.
If you believe Tony Seba, I have a bridge to sell you...
I live right by there
Superstorm that was barely a category 1 hurricane.
My money is that Metcalf disgruntled employees.
Never a dull moment
Why are these power stations, and power lines above ground, and not underground?
Great, let’s report this so all of our enemies know…
They always tell you who they ate and what their plans are.
No security on underground lid with silent alarms, higher alarm sensors, with camera, for 5 miles with satellite security
Not to mention their nuclear plant cooling systems will also be shutdown....
They all have backups.
START TO PREPP PEOPEL NOW 💯
Blowing up substations was a technique used by the French resistance movement during world war two, There are a few clips on YT of resistance members blowing substations. Since than substations have become bigger and more critical to the continuity of life, society and governance. "SOE's School for Danger" is the title of a yt vid with reference to substations at 7min 30seconds
That's what Russia is presently targeting in Ukraine - the transformers at substations. They really ought to put them in bunkers underground.
For a great analysis of the issue of the vulnerability of our power grid I highly recommend Ted Koppel’s excellent book ‘Lights Out’
Boy, I’m sure those windmills and solar panels will make a big difference.
Community scaled solar and wind would. The story you don’t see? That one neighborhood in the Moore county attack has a contract with a close Amazon solar farm, they still have power because they use private grid tie ins. While it’s not nearly as much power, they aren’t without lights.
Distributed solar and wind would actually make the grid more resilient. That along with distributed battery backup would mean the grid can stay powered even when portions get attacked. Not to mention the energy independence we would get if we could learn to rely on the sun and wind and not the Middle East and Russia
See the Sol-Ark at 8 min 50 sec. Wow!
Prepare 4 when the electricity and internet go byebye
Be prepared to live.
Your newer vehicles won’t work either. Electronic ignition? You’re up the creek.
Feels like September 🤔
No one agency?!?! Hasn't this man heard of the FERC????
So, dictate protections as mandatory for licensed substations.
Every time the government attempts to put multiple departments under one authority, someone cries out "big government".
Since when? There's something odd about sending 100 dollars to an entity and only getting 50 percent back.
No mention of an EMP weapon
Don’t forget warmth/heat
Our grid is severely insecure.
NOT AT ALL! WHERE IS THE FUEL CELL TECHNOLOGY!
all ready on the trash heap, Martian technology apparently wasn't stolen from scientist that developed it. Carbon-oxygen supposedly even cheaper and greener!!! yah the world is saved again??? or is it going to be a photo finish Musk Gates and Bezos, are hogging inside track. What a race Simpleton folks, oh the horror oh the humanity? The Arabs, to, can't forgetey those Arabey's trying anything to keep that black goo(poisoning the Earth) worth 100 dollars a barrel. (at the least?)
Interesting Texas has its own grid
Thank you by starting with a secure border and keeping peace with the worlds nations...we anericans know we are safe
Nowhere was incompetence and greed mentioned. I live in TexAss and it was those two main reasons our gird was down ... Statewide ... for over a week. And the needed upgrades and repairs haven't been done for over a year later.
Incompetence of the voters and greed of the politicians lol
Palantir Foundry..
It works with pellet guns too
Retail cost of ammunition will double within the next month. Buy POWW now!!!
Epic fail, welcome to America!
And why are you guys playing this crap on RUclips for the whole world to see?? I used to inspect these substations and let me tell you it would be so easy to take them out. You need to take this video down!
Security through obscurity isn't good long term strategy
lets build a wall.....around substations.
This isn’t news to bad actors. The information is readily available online. By bringing this to the attention of the American people, it will help raise awareness and help lead to a solution.
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What u said makes no sense because attacks are already happening
Not at all.
And the cost to upgrade our grid increases everyday.