THE UNDERRATED ALICE

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  • Опубликовано: 20 июн 2022
  • THE UNDERRATED ALICE
    Let's check out what happened to Alice this season
    Why is no one using her?
    This Alice gameplay and build might explain the reason behind her low usage rate
    Notice: This content is created based on Moonton’s Material and complies with Derivative Content Policy, Moonton does not endorse this content.
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  • @jezreelken2493
    @jezreelken2493 2 года назад +679

    Well, her damage is too low and she's not that tanky either. They should buff her Passive from 10 hp to 20 hp per orb and raise her damage scaling on her skills. (150% on first skill, make her second skill 1.2 secomd stun and make her damage on second skill 100% and make her damage on ult 60% and her healing to 30%.) Her mana consumption is not the problem since you can manage that easily. Such a shame she's one of the strongest characters on ML lore.

    • @alreytan5351
      @alreytan5351 2 года назад +62

      I don't think so. It's her mana that's hardest to manage even when you have enchanted talisman and mana boots to add. If her passive also gives her mana per stack, then it would be easier to recklessly use her ultimate and build her proper tank items. She becomes tanky through items and just enough damage to regen her lost HP while not being afraid of having your ult cancelled to due to lack of mana.

    • @lolwhatever
      @lolwhatever 2 года назад +75

      Lol with this buff she can do 1 vs 5 lol

    • @blackjack7311
      @blackjack7311 2 года назад +11

      @@lolwhatever xd 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @blackjack7311
      @blackjack7311 2 года назад +15

      She is very strong bal . All she want is a buff on passive make her get movment speed on 40th stack . And give her plus 15 magic and phys def on 50 stack and that's it she can outplay all meta heroes in late game

    • @jezreelken2493
      @jezreelken2493 2 года назад +57

      @@alreytan5351 I played Alice like, 700 times and yet never encountered a problem with her mana. Her ult isn't meant to be used forever. The only problems I encountered was lack of damage since you'll get killed before you even deal significant damage. You won't even last long even with frozen truncheon and vengeance. Her passive is also trash. You collect 60 orbs and what do you get? 10% cd reduction...Her ult doesn't have cooldown and her first skill doesnt even start the cooldown when you use it unlike before. You only get 600 hp and that's nothing. Sure, They added 15% bonus healing and shield but 10% lifesteal was alot better since you dont need lifesteal items anymore. The only good thing with her passive is the movement speed. Before, She can deal massive damage with in a span of 3 seconds. And now? She cant even deal enough damage in a span of 10 seconds! I'd say buff her damage instead of her mana consumption since you won't need any large amount of mana if you can deal damage in a short time.
      Try to build her Defensive, she will absolutely deal no damage and has a low healing. You're better off using a REAL Tank.
      Try to build her Full magic items. She will be so squishy you cant even kill the marksman since their damage is higher than yours.
      Try to build her hybrid, She will deal low damage and will still have low defense. She can't even do her job right🤦

  • @abinashdewraja2911
    @abinashdewraja2911 2 года назад +403

    The answer is easy, she's not a mid laner, she's a DPS not a burst, even in DPS every mage outclasses her in range, damage. Enemies can easily escape her damage skills with every new hero having some sort of CC or escape
    So she goes to exp lane, even then she's outclassed by all the god damn tanky fighters and tank laners who can kill her
    She's not a bad hero, other heroes just do better, that's what Meta has become sadly
    Look at Julian, CC, escape, regen, poke, everything Alice can but just way better

    • @fahmihisam2871
      @fahmihisam2871 2 года назад +19

      Agreed

    • @Fluffy_Buddies_Station
      @Fluffy_Buddies_Station 2 года назад +11

      Yes simple explanation!

    • @Madara-vy5fl
      @Madara-vy5fl 2 года назад +1

      But Alice has everything Julian has lmfao .cc,escape,regen ,poke etc and even better at that too.

    • @s.2685
      @s.2685 2 года назад +34

      @@Madara-vy5fl julian cc is much better, much more impactful in skirmishes

    • @Madara-vy5fl
      @Madara-vy5fl 2 года назад +2

      @@s.2685 U get infinite slows and very very small cd stuns every few secondsand Julian can only do one aoe knockup every 6 seconds which i think is comparable to how good alice stuns are honestly ofcourse any dumb guy can play Julian compared to how much people to know when to engage at the right time with Alice

  • @Gatotstin_Y
    @Gatotstin_Y 2 года назад +309

    Her popularity had died out ever since her nerf or at least that's what Iremember. Maybe she may stand out much but I believe she can do much better once this mage META arrives. Especially with the new adjustment in mid lane where there's 4 minions now. She could stack faster and reach max potential faster right? Maybe a slight buff for her but may not become popular again that easily though.

    • @hyshienaming3272
      @hyshienaming3272 2 года назад +6

      And aldous too with alice

    • @h.a.p.p.y3530
      @h.a.p.p.y3530 2 года назад +21

      Why the f would you put alice in mid

    • @woodzyoungerbrother1214
      @woodzyoungerbrother1214 2 года назад +11

      Well, I miss her old ultimate. It’s like her main core skill for me.

    • @deadthrone6296
      @deadthrone6296 2 года назад +11

      @@h.a.p.p.y3530 well she is a mage

    • @hyshienaming3272
      @hyshienaming3272 2 года назад +7

      @@h.a.p.p.y3530 did you read the comment at the top read it

  • @ramiroloria2185
    @ramiroloria2185 2 года назад +10

    Ml Guide: "Hello my friends!"
    Shinmen Takezo: "Welcome back to *solo queue"*
    Elgin: *H E Y G U Y S W H A T ' S U P*

  • @Jay_Shawn_Green
    @Jay_Shawn_Green 2 года назад +48

    Honestly, Alice really shines in a Teamfight, with her *ALLIES*. Since she can't one combo to death, she's best at dealing damage by time against enemy heroes

    • @Gabriel-cw1ez
      @Gabriel-cw1ez 2 года назад +3

      As Ex-Global 1 Alice you are right!
      what Elgin is trying to proof here?
      come on, we all know every hero is op when playing with a bunch of noobs.
      Ok, I say too, in team fight Alice is balance!
      but solo player are having tough time!
      Moonton should do something about solo Alice player!
      Here, why? Let say this is late game!
      Miya(or Any marksman) vs Alice ....Alice can't use Camper as advantage (doesn't have one shot build)
      And does Miya kill you in second!
      Just say Alice is support hero! and it's over!
      Alice Mage\Tank my Assssss😂!

    • @DivinePhoenix_
      @DivinePhoenix_ 2 года назад +2

      alice does have one shot build , but most players are nabs using enchanted talisman instead of calamity reaper. Also players like elgin with such gameplay seem to not be comfortable with her skills(can't even aim first skill properly and using ultimate after teleport) .

    • @johndalton8839
      @johndalton8839 2 года назад +1

      @@DivinePhoenix_ calamity reaper on Alice? Please elaborate

    • @aki8577
      @aki8577 2 года назад +2

      @@johndalton8839 if you want her to build burst than a sustain you can buy calamity reaper because the more magic damage u have the greater the item's true damage you will deal.

    • @shinigami2693
      @shinigami2693 2 года назад +2

      @@johndalton8839 Use this build on Alice:
      Clock of Destiny,
      Lightning Truncheon,
      Holy crystal,
      Calamity Reaper,
      Genius Wand/Concentrated energy/Necklace of durance,
      and Divine glaive/winter truncheon.
      Divine Glaive

  • @LmaoBviewssecondsago
    @LmaoBviewssecondsago 2 года назад +21

    I remember it when Alice was a gold laner. She was so popular back then, even Blacklist Oheb always use her as a gold lane.

    • @johnjacobsarabosing150
      @johnjacobsarabosing150 2 года назад +1

      Yea but not until MM burst meta arrived. Imagine playing Alice against a beatrix with a build like in MSC. Even in his livestreams, OHEB stopped playing Alice completely. It's sad. They should rework her tbh

    • @aki8577
      @aki8577 2 года назад +6

      @@johnjacobsarabosing150 just buff her, moonton likes to ruin everything when it comes to revamping heroes

    • @shinigami2693
      @shinigami2693 2 года назад

      @@johnjacobsarabosing150 Try using 1 shot build with her with Calamity reaper. My damage build is: COD, Lightning, Holy C., Genius wand, Divine Glaive, and Calamity. You can change the genius wand and divine glaive with defensive or lifesteal items like oracle, Blade armor, Concentrated energy, Dominance Ice...

    • @DivinePhoenix_
      @DivinePhoenix_ 2 года назад +1

      @@shinigami2693 alice cant win against her in late game without using vengeance. Even her lifesteal is much higher

    • @DivinePhoenix_
      @DivinePhoenix_ 2 года назад

      @@aki8577 some heroes are completely unbalanced. Take Aldous for example. Can one shot even with tanky items

  • @Gian872
    @Gian872 2 года назад +89

    Tactics using Alice:
    Use your 1st skill often to give your team vision of the enemy team, to poke and to avoid being ganked. Always be on the lookout to start teamfights and communicate with your team on when you intend to go in with your blink. When laning, you can cast you 1st skill again as soon as it hits all three minions to use the skill again faster since the cooldown will begin sooner if you reactivate it sooner.
    Use 1st skill to last hit minions. On the laning phase, Alice is weak against most matchups, and so is prone to being delayed. Last hitting minions with your 1st skill allows you to get the experience and gold granted by the minions. Do not be too greedy to pick up blood orbs.
    Try to kite melee heroes with your 2nd skill. You can also use this in combination with your 1st skill to chase down enemies or to run away.
    Take note of how much Mana you have at all times and how quickly it drains when you use your ultimate.
    Try to toggle your ultimate off when there is less than 3 or 2 minions in range.
    Use your early game damage and and mobility to your advantage. Try to play with heroes that can keep up with her mobility and her unpredictable initiations like Hayabusa, Ling or heroes that can make it easier for her to follow up with her AoE damage like Khufra, Atlas or Tigreal
    Try to position yourself near as many enemies as possible in teamfights. She becomes more tanky the more enemies there are around her and is susceptible to being kited if crowd controlled.
    Make sure you always have at least enough Mana to cast your 1st skill. When your Mana is low and you need to escape, it is more worth it to blink out than to try and regen.
    You can use your ultimate to clear stacked minion waves very fast and efficiently, so make use of this in combination with your mobility to roam around the map quickly and clear minion waves in multiple lanes.
    Try to practice aiming your 1st skill as this is a fundamental part of her kit. Practice aiming it over different walls around the map to greatly increase your overall mobility.
    Do not dive recklessly. Alice is a Mage/Tank but her DPS /regen cannot save her from being kited under the enemy turret or being focused on by the enemy team if your tank does not follow you. Communion and caution is key.
    When running away, try to use your 2nd skill before blinking for a better chance of survival. This also gives you a longer time to reposition after the blink and plan for your next course of action.
    Do not be afraid to build tank items on her like Antique Cuirass, Dominance Ice or Cursed Helmet on her if you feel like you need them to survive someone on the enemy team or if it's favorable for you to build them. Think of Alice as a Mage/Tank and not exclusively as a Mage.
    Immortality can restore your Mana to full so try to make use of that in clutch moments.

    • @jiemileng7745
      @jiemileng7745 2 года назад +3

      Very in depth

    • @charlotterx0047
      @charlotterx0047 2 года назад +3

      Much appreciated

    • @coldasice2416
      @coldasice2416 2 года назад +3

      Thanks

    • @Gian872
      @Gian872 2 года назад +3

      @@TomandJerryArchives Ah shit here we go again

    • @winter_1340
      @winter_1340 2 года назад +1

      @@TomandJerryArchives and you are watching mlbb gameplay

  • @notaswissx
    @notaswissx 2 года назад +34

    I’ve been playing Alice these days, she’s amazing with winter truncheon and petrify with ult. In addition, using execute is also a good addition because it can help finish enemies!

    • @riri1651
      @riri1651 2 года назад +2

      Try it with flicker also

    • @YuukiHorra
      @YuukiHorra 2 года назад +2

      Vengeance for great survivability during teamfight

    • @rabinghale8906
      @rabinghale8906 2 года назад +2

      u should try sprint. its fun to see enemy health go by when chasing.

  • @adobobo422
    @adobobo422 2 года назад +4

    Alice have the best Mobility skill for me, ngl.

  • @SomberTwilight_
    @SomberTwilight_ 2 года назад +154

    She's underrated because she either ults to die, or dies while trying to kill someone, but She doesn't do any damage resulting in her hilarious demise.
    It's HIGHLY depressing that one of the games main Antagonists is so pitiful.

    • @jonsart5643
      @jonsart5643 2 года назад +11

      And she wasn't like this before the revamp 😭. I loved her before, now I rarely play her.

    • @axcel2727
      @axcel2727 2 года назад +5

      well, in the story, she isnt that powerful. tbh, she just seductive and manipulative antagonist. But yeah, she's very weak in game.

    • @nonessss2810
      @nonessss2810 2 года назад +8

      They gutted her sustain badly, which was the only thing going on for her. She can't even outsustain marksmen in 1v1 midgame nowadays.

    • @Aki-hb1jy
      @Aki-hb1jy 2 года назад +3

      @@nonessss2810 She can but needs vengeance

    • @johndalton8839
      @johndalton8839 2 года назад +1

      @@Aki-hb1jy anyone can use vengeance to out-sustain mm 💀

  • @AG-2021
    @AG-2021 2 года назад +11

    She is a powerful villain in almost other stories of other heroes but weak when comes to the game

    • @bizzlowthxx
      @bizzlowthxx 2 года назад +2

      She is not weak, lots of people dont know how to handle her mana & stacks. She is op late game if properly farmed.

  • @ianmaomay1588
    @ianmaomay1588 2 года назад +31

    Problem is. Her life stealing ability which I believe should be her unique skill/passive was given to other heroes. Moonton has this habit of releasing new heroes with insane amount of lifesteal.

    • @shinigami2693
      @shinigami2693 2 года назад +4

      Agreed, even Julian has more lifesteal than her

  • @nkz1828
    @nkz1828 2 года назад +48

    I think it would be nice if her passive Orb also give her 10 Mana per stack. That would make her a better hero at late game by a lot.

    • @harrisjohneddy5660
      @harrisjohneddy5660 2 года назад +1

      Bro with that she is too op. Maybe make it like extra 500 mana when 50 stacks. Knowing that she is a late hero

    • @goodboy5665
      @goodboy5665 2 года назад

      @@harrisjohneddy5660 n with tracheon weapon she can esly deal 1k+ dmg😅😅

    • @Krishnaforever12
      @Krishnaforever12 Год назад

      I think u predicted the new Alice update 😳😳😳 now she gains mana per stack

    • @nkz1828
      @nkz1828 Год назад

      @@Krishnaforever12 I think I did haha..

    • @maktummasrooramyo6997
      @maktummasrooramyo6997 Год назад

      ​@@harrisjohneddy5660 "too op" huh

  • @miguelojera2356
    @miguelojera2356 2 года назад +16

    Her nerf and the recent buffs on defense items might be the contributing factor on her low usage rate. She's quite handy on team fights though, especially if partnered with a perfect tank set.

    • @alreytan5351
      @alreytan5351 2 года назад +3

      But she's supposed to be a mage/tank. Uet she can't survive tanking alone. If only her mana depletion is not that much, then we can say goodbye to enchanted talisman for a defense item.

  • @raidenshogun9987
    @raidenshogun9987 2 года назад +31

    Tips when playing alice:
    1.try to engage the enemy when theres minions nearby, she rlly benefits from minions(giving her hp and mana)
    2. alice is rlly fast at clearing minion waves, try to gather as much passive stacks as possible cuz it will rlly benefit on the late game
    3.when your team is lacking defense u can build alice as half tank, combined with his passive and ultimate, alice is just immortal(until u run out of mana)
    4.she is very good at starting a clash with her aoe skills so try to wait for an opportunity to dive the enemy team when they're close together
    5.lastly her 1st skill is rlly good both in escaping and chasing so try to use it on hunting them down or running away from them
    i hope this helps alice users out there:)

    • @yusa4467
      @yusa4467 2 года назад +1

      her first skill is really crucial. once you master it, you mastered the hero.
      I don't know if it's actually efficient but I've always played her semi-tank in mostly every situation and it works well with my gameplay. some people are like "her damage is too small" that's why for me we should mastered the first skill. always chasing the enemy. and with tanky build she's unstoppable

    • @alreytan5351
      @alreytan5351 2 года назад

      The no.3 though. Alice really is the hardest to manage when it comes to her mana depletion. If only her mana depletion is not that much, then she's probably gonna become popular.

    • @raidenshogun9987
      @raidenshogun9987 2 года назад +1

      @@alreytan5351 I usually get clock of destiny, demon shoes, enchanted talisman as my first 3 items. with these 3 items u wont run out of mana that fast, plus demon shoes help regain mana by killing minions thats why theres a benefit in clearing waves as alice, u can regain mana quickly.

    • @markgamalog293
      @markgamalog293 2 года назад +1

      Top kalinga alice here☺️☺️

    • @alreytan5351
      @alreytan5351 2 года назад

      @@raidenshogun9987 that's what makes her inflexible as a tank mage. She can't survive without mana regen and mana items. There are games where you'd really want tough boots because of hard CC enemies but you can't because you need demon shoes. If you don't do demon shoes and just pick only 1 mana regen item, you'd find yourself going base a lot to recover mana.

  • @irun_mon
    @irun_mon 2 года назад +12

    She's good for team fights and can directly go to the enemy behind but she's weak in lane especially in the early game. Now that dyroth, esme and thamuz are top exp laners, she's having a hard time collecting her passive

  • @raizel8174
    @raizel8174 2 года назад +5

    She's Very Underrated for Real.

    • @ceo_-
      @ceo_- 2 года назад

      Underatted/Forgetten..

  • @priyanshupathak2693
    @priyanshupathak2693 2 года назад +7

    Alice was one of the ban list heros few seasons back and i was under 100 global and a supreme alice player but she left far behind as other heros got continuous buff. She needs a little adjust to get back into the front line. So i wish moonton to do something so that my money on alice can be put in some use.

  • @tobias7923
    @tobias7923 2 года назад +1

    I like how Elgin always say "stay safe" at the end of every video he make, since i start watch his video at 2020

  • @auskerzales24
    @auskerzales24 2 года назад +13

    What if Alice's ULT gets the same treatment they did for Balmond? Increase the damage dealt the longer an enemy stays in her ULT duration. I mean, it is her Ultimate as compared to a Balmond with a Bloodlust Axe whirling around with a basic skill. Stat buffs on her passive could also help her get back into the meta. Considering we're seeing a Mage-centric meta next season, this might give her the push to compete again.

    • @hskdjh421
      @hskdjh421 2 года назад +3

      Or stacking slow effect like in Hylos' skill 2, the longer you stay the slower your movement speed.

    • @zackzoom8779
      @zackzoom8779 2 года назад

      @@hskdjh421 We already have ice queen wand, but it's nice to have

    • @rojana2850
      @rojana2850 2 года назад

      This is genius!

    • @somber087
      @somber087 2 года назад

      @@hskdjh421 Theyre gonna make her a pure tank if that happens

  • @emmaell6659
    @emmaell6659 2 года назад +16

    Now that you revealed how she is underrated, people will start using again.

    • @selocha4367
      @selocha4367 2 года назад +5

      Underrated? No
      Underpowered? Yes

    • @DivinePhoenix_
      @DivinePhoenix_ 2 года назад +2

      players cant use her properly. Even top globals cant always rotate properly joining mindlessly teamfights in early game

    • @johnjacobsarabosing150
      @johnjacobsarabosing150 2 года назад

      @@DivinePhoenix_ because some players are putting her into the Exp lane, and in the current meta Exp laners need to frontline in teamfights, ideally all the time.

  • @peachyfriday2098
    @peachyfriday2098 2 года назад +43

    I think this is the perfect skill udjustments on Alice that will put her on the meta
    Skill 1 damage is increase by 10 points in the late game but lower damage in Early
    Skill:2 udjustments will be
    1.2 stun but cd increase by 1 second
    Skill 3 will be
    Much higher heal on her ultimate base on her passive stacks have 20% damage reduction while in ultimate form
    Passive: much higher movement speed when reaching 50 stacks

    • @alreytan5351
      @alreytan5351 2 года назад +5

      Her stacking needs adjustments to. She's probably the hardest hero to stack because you can only acquire stack through minions and you need to be a certain distance.
      Her passive also needs adjustment, like rather than HP regen, she should gain mana regen, or instead of 10 HP, she gains +5HP and +5Mana.
      At the end of the day, it's not really her sustain that's a problem, it's her mana management. Probably the hero with the hardest to manage mana.

    • @yori_7111
      @yori_7111 2 года назад +2

      I think its a bit better if the ult sucks the hp just a bit faster, but i think thats too much

    • @imeldarivera1832
      @imeldarivera1832 2 года назад +1

      1.2 sec stun is crazy

    • @om8873
      @om8873 2 года назад

      @@alreytan5351 u want Alice Ut form unlimited

    • @DivinePhoenix_
      @DivinePhoenix_ 2 года назад +1

      her buff should be on the early game. In the late game it depends on the user , how he can manage the situation in teamfighs(enemy hero priority , clever item changes etc.) also you should choose the best build, which is not with enchanted talisman. From a supreme alice user

  • @dailenth
    @dailenth Год назад +1

    Pro tip: When you cast her blink skill and hold while its active, the camera will lock into the orb. Release again to activate.

  • @jamesharry403
    @jamesharry403 2 года назад +8

    The only problem is her damage output and the fast animation of 1st skill. And at the same time, the range

    • @NikkoSuico
      @NikkoSuico 2 года назад +1

      in which I missed with the old version of alice

    • @hola7036
      @hola7036 2 года назад

      @@NikkoSuico me too😪 and old effects

  • @Domingkun
    @Domingkun 2 года назад +4

    Imagine purchasing 3 to 4 items to become sustainable yet be countered by only one item 🙄
    That's the downside of Alice.

  • @ireanlee5
    @ireanlee5 2 года назад +5

    I don't think that she's weak ,it is because she is just too hard when you're choosing equipment. If you go damage ,she will be too squishy. If you go defensive, she will be lacking at damage. And plus ,due that many heroes has insane burst and at least 2 to 3 heroes are always have a anti heal item to stop her.

    • @zapmask55
      @zapmask55 2 года назад

      Alice is weak because wla ra

    • @jowyschwarz313
      @jowyschwarz313 2 года назад

      True..thats why she s weak, she was not secure or balance

  • @Roy-Editor
    @Roy-Editor 2 года назад

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  • @treasure7490
    @treasure7490 2 года назад +2

    Can you do a video on Kimmy? I'm really interested to know your thoughts on her new adjustment

  • @cristianperezbrunet7944
    @cristianperezbrunet7944 2 года назад +3

    A good tweak to her would be giving her skill dmg also scale with Max HP that way you are rewarded with collecting the blood orbs and can mix in there some tank items making her more versatile. Her passive instead of giving 10% cd red which is not that useful should increase the HP per blood orb from 10 -> 20 in his first evolution.

  • @laukenneth5885
    @laukenneth5885 2 года назад +4

    She just got a minor buff from latest update in original server…her ult mana from 50 - 90 to 40 - 80

  • @lschoice9136
    @lschoice9136 2 года назад

    Favor: Where can I see the tier list of who heroes to use in every rank?

  • @marccieloperalta8358
    @marccieloperalta8358 2 года назад +1

    Another satisfying gameplay, love your videos

  • @azazelgaming184
    @azazelgaming184 2 года назад +10

    as an alice senior shes actually just slightly balance. Just a little bit buff on late game and make her stack through creeps so I can use her as a jungler because shes very strong as jungler specially unlimited ult at lvl4 lol.

    • @alreytan5351
      @alreytan5351 2 года назад

      Yeah, alice blue buff.

    • @shinigami2693
      @shinigami2693 2 года назад

      I also use her as tank:
      Enchanted Talisman, Dominance Ice, Concentrated Energy, Oracle, Winter Truncheon, and Blade armor/Antique Cuirass/Radiant armor are the items I use in most cases. But if the enemy heroes have true damage as their asset, I use full on Burst instead (full on burst kills off squishy heroes which are often the damage dealers).

    • @alreytan5351
      @alreytan5351 2 года назад

      She should also get stacks for assists and kills. Stacking with her is a nightmare.

  • @johnbendicio2637
    @johnbendicio2637 2 года назад +3

    For me she's harder than before probably because of radiant armor and dominance ice

    • @somber087
      @somber087 2 года назад

      because chang'e was so op they decided to make an actual item to counter her, making Alice, odette etc weaker. Sigh

  • @tien137_
    @tien137_ 2 года назад +1

    the combo of her skills urks me so much lmao

  • @kingstontahau2302
    @kingstontahau2302 2 года назад

    Great gameplay Alice is overlooked and has much potential for a team fighter. Just a tip, try ulting before you blink in with your first skill that way your already set before you go in.

  • @Sean-uv2sv
    @Sean-uv2sv 2 года назад +3

    Using damage items on her is really effective. She's strong most of the time especially on late game, the problem is that she consumes a lot of mana and her regen isn't really high. She's classed as Charge/Regen but the regen is really weak compared to Silvanna.
    She's the Queen of the Abyss but Dyrroth and Thamuz are stronger than her 🙄 she needs to be buffed.

    • @Rachel-bq3lj
      @Rachel-bq3lj 2 года назад

      She is not the queen of the abyss, more like a vice-president, she act for the lord of abyss, she command yet also the one who scheming all the best possibilities in war, just like in her story where she made her brothers argue againts each other, she was also the one who use necrokeep as the place of war between moniyan and abyss, resulting in Vexana, Leomord and Faramis to take the damage. She's the mastermind behind all of the evil in land of dawn, yet, she's not born demon at all. If you want to know it, Alice is the ONLY one hero ever receive power directly from the lord of abyss, and possibly the oldest hero in abyss faction.

  • @inniv2411
    @inniv2411 2 года назад +4

    i believe the reason for Alice being underpicked is the tank meta which means a constant use of radiant armor and dominance ice killing her damage and sustainability and she is not able to have a good build flexibility to be able to counter those itens most Alice builds are stone locked in the same itens

  • @KAIJINNSTORM
    @KAIJINNSTORM 2 года назад

    I love how you explain the gameplay😆

  • @pratapbajracharya007
    @pratapbajracharya007 2 года назад

    I love when Alice just stands there in team fight using her ult and winter truncheon

  • @IsoyaYasuji
    @IsoyaYasuji 2 года назад +11

    Reason why she’s not seen alot in ranked is because she’s been way too busy messing with other heroes lore

    • @chitranshubehra1794
      @chitranshubehra1794 2 года назад

      lmao ikr! but I do think they should buff her a little just for the sake of her lore

  • @YankeeDoodle_08
    @YankeeDoodle_08 2 года назад +6

    I really thought her skin would be in the next first purchase 😭 I was really looking forward to it.

    • @rexellpaullopez5410
      @rexellpaullopez5410 2 года назад +1

      Sadly tho they choose Selena as a Season Purchase skin.

    • @cdvantage
      @cdvantage 2 года назад +1

      i feel robbed on that first purchase 😔

  • @chanhee9863
    @chanhee9863 2 года назад +1

    I suddenly miss Oheb’s insane Alice gameplays during the MPL.

  • @sherwindean898
    @sherwindean898 2 года назад

    What is the use of 15% more shield on passive if she has no skill that gives shield? Or item that also gives shield?

  • @AsteriaML
    @AsteriaML 2 года назад +3

    My GUINEVERE is the PROOF that GIRLS can SLAY too❤️❤️❤️

  • @keekee300
    @keekee300 2 года назад +8

    Alice is a pretty good pick until radiance armor was added. Radiant + anti heal would literally counter her easily in late game.

    • @josevladimiraustria2736
      @josevladimiraustria2736 2 года назад +2

      Not to mention mm can easily melt her life especially those dps type like claude, karrie.

  • @IAmJadedJM
    @IAmJadedJM 2 года назад +2

    (1) It's tank meta. She loves to hug enemies so she'll most likely soak all of their CCs for a really long time, and her build doesn't offer her that strength.
    (2) Radiant Armor was made. Add it with DomIce and she's pretty wacked.
    (3) Literally a high stack-scaling hero, but towards tankiness. Above average players will rather pick Cecilion more than her.
    (4) Because of the above, she dwells between dmg dealer and sustain but doesn't do well at both currently. If you're the team's dmg dealer, you don't want a frontliner who just tickles enemy tanks w/counter items, doesn't burst the backline quickly, and can't peel for you properly.

  • @nytnyt7962
    @nytnyt7962 2 года назад

    8:26 Nice timing on using Winter Truncheon

  • @MewKen
    @MewKen 2 года назад +2

    Wasn't she buffed recently, I think it was a mana consumption buff on her ult allowing her to use her ult around 30% longer in early game and 15% in late game compared to the previous version

  • @tomie_kawa
    @tomie_kawa 2 года назад +2

    Its also better to cast ultimate after using skill 1 to have no delay.

  • @gherwhenlayosa2923
    @gherwhenlayosa2923 2 года назад +2

    elgin, before you use your skill 1 activate your ult first. the common combo i use for alice is s1-ult-s1-s2

  • @hendrikoh6344
    @hendrikoh6344 2 года назад

    Helo sir , can you tell me how to show up that build in below map ?

  • @jygzfajardo1887
    @jygzfajardo1887 2 года назад

    What will happen to un used emblem fragments?

  • @sebygamingyt2621
    @sebygamingyt2621 2 года назад +2

    Maybe they should make it so that the longer her ult stays the higher the lifesteal or damage gets like a stacking effect

  • @kennethcabrillos592
    @kennethcabrillos592 2 года назад

    I totally agree with the travel time of the first skill because when you want to ambush someone but it's little far when you cast you're first skill it's slow and they can flicker, dash or dodge it.

  • @phenom1212
    @phenom1212 2 года назад

    If i where to change something i wold change her pasive why would she need cool down reduction and ult as u said about 250 base damge and maybe 2 seconds more cool down on her ult

  • @blixentejada1671
    @blixentejada1671 2 года назад

    Any chances of a video featuring Argus?

  • @digbick_25
    @digbick_25 2 года назад +1

    Is it only me who's amazed on Elgin's Alice gameplay? He played it so well!

  • @anotherrandomuser777
    @anotherrandomuser777 2 года назад

    She's awesome, and I feel sad that she's underrated. With Sprint and a CC Skill, she actually gave me the confidence to do ganks and turret dives when I first started playing the game.

  • @IlhamM
    @IlhamM 2 года назад

    Amazing

  • @frenzytupas3113
    @frenzytupas3113 2 года назад

    Thank you for recognizing Alice, our favorite hero. Even she is underrated today, she can still dominate a game. But unlike any other heroes in the meta, she is way to weak, she needs more damage or movement speed, and just like what you have said a buff on her skills. Anyways, she doesn't have a new released skin since 2019, too. I hope she could get another one.

  • @Mocha-ux4vi
    @Mocha-ux4vi 2 года назад +1

    Alice is really a late game hero, since her passive takes very long stack up like Aldous

    • @DivinePhoenix_
      @DivinePhoenix_ 2 года назад +1

      aldous can stack faster.. even by killing jungle creeps and killing enemies. If they did that to alice as well, she would become much scarier

  • @shenhelover7867
    @shenhelover7867 2 года назад +2

    How about Argus?...plz make video about him

  • @amelitavalencia5804
    @amelitavalencia5804 2 года назад +1

    well she's pretty balance.. in my opinion.. and she would make a great core/mage/tank.. if you want to carry.. I'll try it later.. Hope you try it too elgin!!

  • @ratanaksok7979
    @ratanaksok7979 2 года назад

    Maybe A movement speed boost when she used her ultimate would be a good idea.

  • @archil3264
    @archil3264 2 года назад

    i started using alice last days and i am really impressed how tanky and strong she actually is and after mid lane minion adjustments she would be very strong on mid lane because of numbers of minions

  • @Alex-en3jq
    @Alex-en3jq 2 года назад

    Can u do a sort of the same video with Odette?

  • @NickyBrosuwu
    @NickyBrosuwu 2 года назад

    right now Alice is literally the star of hero trailers and she always has mind control, so I thought about terror cc on his 2nd skill by putting the immobilize on the activation of her ult and make her 1st skill slightly faster, like you did say on the video, about her range I think that at its first level it should have her basic attack range or the Faramis' basic attack range to the level 3 ult Layla's enchanted basic attack range or the unenchanted one

  • @hakim65163
    @hakim65163 2 года назад +1

    The funny thing is that Elgin take samples only from 1 video and for the record, that rank game is on an advanced server 👏

    • @danielcalizar4770
      @danielcalizar4770 2 года назад

      he doesn't have the EVP squad in advanced though.

  • @iamlegend3674
    @iamlegend3674 Год назад +2

    Alice should get orbs from jungle too. When other heroes get it why not her.

    • @DivinePhoenix_
      @DivinePhoenix_ Год назад

      And by killing enemies. In that way she can maximize her passive like Aldous

  • @Cruel-Demon
    @Cruel-Demon 2 года назад

    1:22 Silvanna taking revange on Alice for kidnapping her brother 😂

  • @jamesemersondumam-ag7713
    @jamesemersondumam-ag7713 2 года назад +2

    Alice is a bit difficult to use. As a mage user, I use Alice a little more often recently as i get a decent win rate from her. She's squishy in early game but is very good at late game, especially when the jungler is generous enough to give the purple buff (junglers that don't really need the purple buff like Balmond), I can get very aggressive..

  • @kennedyrabino6520
    @kennedyrabino6520 2 года назад

    How u dou see your item build of left side

  • @loidamayneyee9749
    @loidamayneyee9749 2 года назад +1

    Much appreciated...

  • @nicktodorov956
    @nicktodorov956 2 года назад

    I am curious how you get so high life drain when I play with her she has misrable drain even with many items for drain and you are tanki

  • @_Enzhaym
    @_Enzhaym 2 года назад

    and her epic skin really needs a retouch

  • @kyleml9635
    @kyleml9635 2 года назад +1

    They should add an effect wherein alice's ult can stack bonus magic damage if the enemies remains inside her ultimate

  • @mr.lonerdemol7254
    @mr.lonerdemol7254 2 года назад

    I wish that Moontoon would add an effect on items where it would increase the heroes skill cast animations to 50% at most.

  • @mikonoz
    @mikonoz 2 года назад +1

    I just missed the old Alice. Alice was my main hero that I always used before this until moonton revamped her, the damage become so low compare to last time.

    • @hola7036
      @hola7036 2 года назад

      I miss you old alice...

  • @ALeenegativity
    @ALeenegativity 2 года назад +2

    I've actually kept trying her normal build/mage and she is kinda hard to use with it since she can easily die after entering the crowd of enemies because she can also be squishy with the mage build, So when I experimented her Semi tank build that I made it made her very hard to kill using that build I made made me realize that my only goal is to sustain and support for my teammates,
    But the problem is if I don't have good teammates or at least decent, I would be having a hard time especially when it reaches really late.

    • @kai2kid62
      @kai2kid62 2 года назад

      Consider getting Revitalize so you can solo carry your teammates, time your second skill with revitalize and don't forget to stick on multiple enemies

  • @nosukog
    @nosukog 2 года назад +1

    Faster healing interval from her ultimate and give her passive Physical def and magic def

  • @yueshijoorya601
    @yueshijoorya601 2 года назад

    Good plays.

  • @marvinbermudo4910
    @marvinbermudo4910 2 года назад

    very nice content ☺️

  • @juweniber4945
    @juweniber4945 2 года назад

    That pharsa amazes me with her ult effects its fire

  • @nagashimayt9083
    @nagashimayt9083 2 года назад +1

    Elgin not using ult before entering using 1st skill??? HERESY!!!!

  • @jamesvacu.5528
    @jamesvacu.5528 2 года назад

    Hey eligin can you make a video about how underrated is harith. Like everyone including game developers should know about this. Especially his passive

  • @irfanramlee8940
    @irfanramlee8940 2 года назад

    Nice

  • @shirothesaint
    @shirothesaint 2 года назад

    Franco's godly hook at 8:25😂

  • @amos1482
    @amos1482 2 года назад +1

    I mean yeah I'd like a few changes with her but still if used properly Alice can really be a pain in the ass for the enemies

  • @justarock8819
    @justarock8819 2 года назад

    Idk if this is a bug or not but if you do no cd in practice it wont use mana on other heroes but on alice it uses mana all the same

  • @samsinfo-tidbitz8670
    @samsinfo-tidbitz8670 2 года назад +2

    Alice, Hylos and Carmila together with Chang'e was massively affected when they introduce the radiant armor and baxia

    • @heretic3334
      @heretic3334 2 года назад

      Odette and Gord too.

    • @leechan5736
      @leechan5736 2 года назад

      @@heretic3334 I would say Gord isn't as affected because of his true damage.

    • @DivinePhoenix_
      @DivinePhoenix_ 2 года назад

      @@leechan5736 lol alice can deal true dmg too, but players are nabs and buy enchanted talisman
      My build with not boots can deal 1k+ true dmg melting even the hardest tanks

    • @leechan5736
      @leechan5736 2 года назад

      @@DivinePhoenix_ which skill in her set has true damage?

  • @heiwamjollier7434
    @heiwamjollier7434 2 года назад

    BTW what is the maximum number of stacks she can accumulate.

  • @ChampsGamingzone
    @ChampsGamingzone 2 года назад

    Used to be my fav hero to play when i started the game an year ago. now i only play meta heroes damn after watchign this i am missing her so much!

  • @LazdeFleur
    @LazdeFleur 2 года назад

    Just make her passive orbs drop from jungle too, her kit is really good as a jungler, roaming the map and providing tons of consistent damage + survivability. Would be fun seeing this new playstyle with her...if moonton ever gets their balancing right.

  • @kiff3842
    @kiff3842 2 года назад

    I used to play her a lot. Not anymore..

  • @Amyroll_
    @Amyroll_ 2 года назад +1

    Well,when playing Alice it's really just a game of balancing her attributes, you cannot really build her too tanky because her damage still play a role in her survivability,and you can not built her too mage like because she does required to get kinda close to the enemy, you also always need to remember to switch your boots when your stack already reach 40

  • @iamChristianV
    @iamChristianV 2 года назад

    please buff your voice over volume 😊
    i keep pressing volume down coz the in-game video is too loud then i'll volume it up when you start speaking.

  • @michaeladviento9645
    @michaeladviento9645 2 года назад +1

    Elgin have you noticed the change in advance server the talent system went back to normal just to let you know

  • @jansenmartin2094
    @jansenmartin2094 2 года назад

    4:36 very well said Alice

  • @levi_rockingthemhips330
    @levi_rockingthemhips330 2 года назад

    Im a pro alice player and heres a tip, use ur ult before clicking the first skill again to teleport so u get more dmg :D