Nice, the more i see your videos the more enjoy them! The cool part is! They all in the kitchen sink! A kitchen sink has never been so intertaining like this before! Keep having fun!! :D
There are many examples of the vortex around us... a bathtub or sink drain, a tornado, a river whirlpool. And yes, if you squint just right, there's even beauty in a toilet vortex!
I really enjoyed this one...the vortex is so mesmorizing. I will be taking this video up a notch, by using a 3 foot tall clear polycarbonate tube for a better look at the vortex effect.
I've got a vortex experiment coming up that will be incredible with a 3 foot tall, 6 inch diameter clear tube. I'll use dye, smoke, and floating/sinking objects to create some fun! This will be in a couple of weeks time.
@hyperdude217 Click on the Instructables link in the "more info" to go to my Instructables site with turbine building info. Go to the "SinkScience With The Tesla CD Turbine" instructable. Let me know if any questions!
I love how quiet the tesla turbine is when running on water. Make that concept into a showcase fountain! Just add a pump to cycle the water to power the turbine! Some LEDs and ultrasound smoke, done!
I used to be memorized by the huge whirlpools at a local river when I was a kid. When I visualized being sucked into one, I simply swam down(in my mind) and popped up somewhere else. Like surfing, the secret it to "go with the flow", hehe.
A couple of years ago a buddy and I were going to make an egg-shaped container with special convoluted counter-rotating spinning discs inside, roughly based on Schaubergers ideas, for water purification and possible energy production.
Yes, the lower part is the Tesla disc turbine that is magnetically connected to the upper Tesla "pump". The lower turbine uses faucet water pressure to turn the discs, which have magnets to engage the upper "pump" magnetically.
I'll leave that up to you for your next Science Fair project!! I did use a 1" styro ball that was really cool as it got sucked down and stayed underwater balanced. I'll post a video of it soon.
The resulting vortex shape would depend on the speed of the liquid inside the vase. With a sealed top like you suggest, the Tesla disc "pump" would have to go very fast to make a cavitation vapor bubble inside. But it could be done. That would be a good experiment with a faster rpm than with the faucet water pressure driving the CD turbine seen here. I will be doing some work with a 3 foot tall vortex soon...perhaps I will try that!
Building this SinkScience version of the Tesla CD Turbine requires about $50 worth of magnets, a nozzle, CD case, CD's and glue. I have Instructables at Instructables(dot)com that have step-by-step instructions on how to build CD Turbines. This is the SinkScience version. The link is found in the "more info" box to the right. >>> Contact me if you have questions after reviewing the material.
There is no hole; it's a standing vortex created by a magnetically-coupled tesla pump disc pack inside the CD cover with water in it. That disc pack is connected magnetically to the magnetic field of the turbine to make it spin.
Yes, it helps to be on a well next to a rain forest! It costs me about 5 cents an hour in well pump power to run the turbine. I don't run it very long usually. Especially since i blew the top right off the CD cakebox case. The Tesla CD turbine is on a self-contained system in my last couple of videos, using re-circulated water and a pump.
Your Tesla Turbine stuff is great. I was thinking about your videos today and got the funny idea that you should use baking-soda and vinegar under high pressure to turn your turbine.
One big hint is about magnet size. The drive magnets must be strong enough for the size of the vortex, and power of the drive motor. A blower motor will require 6 of 1/2 x 1/2 inch neo magnets on the drive side, and on the driven disc side too. (I use a water-jet cut disc of Lexan to mount the magnets into) Smaller projects, smaller magnets and less power.
I haven't tried the Tesla pump idea yet, but I think it would be easy to do using an electric drill with a magnetic coupler driving the turbine backwards.
It uses energy and currently has no other purpose than to inspire awe. I have tried some experiments with objects in the vortex. For example, it's possible to completely submerge a 1 inch styrofoam ball in the vortex, and control it's height by the speed of the turbine. Then there's the little plastic man I threw in... Things suggest themselves after observing the vortex, and for me, that is a worthwhile purpose unto itself.
I tried throwing in some styro beads and that was neat. I tried a 5' high vortex last week, but the turbine was too weak to pull it off. I will find a way to increase power, and get a good tall vortex to chuck things into. re:ps I think I'd rather fly over the world than take it over, but thanks for suggestion!
Thanks for the comments, Joe For better torque more discs than 2 or 3 should be used. There is a point where too many discs will cause excessive internal resistance, however, and without additional nozzles or increased pressure, may run slower. The above version uses 25 discs, and is probably too many. It does run a couple of hundred rpm slower than a shorter-cased one with, say, 8 CD's. An impeller between the discs may or may not help, depending on a few variables.
The bio electric generator doesn't use magnetics as it's way of generating power. It is a chemical/bilogical process that has an anode and cathode and uses sunlight. The vortex acts as a flywheel to smooth out the take-off of power from various devices, but the turbine turns slower from the energy diverted into the vortex and friction.
I fixed the broken link to my "mrfixitrick" Instructables, found in the "show more" box. It has complete instructions. Glad to hear you are attempting this cool project! Use strong N52 magnets where possible, K&J Magnetics is a good source for magnets.(link in "show more" box) Message me if you have questions!
From my understanding the reason the aluminium tin spun was due to the changing magnetic field (from the turbine) inducing a current in the tin which hence induced a magnetic field in the tin which opposed the motion of the turbine and hence caused the tin to rotate. So if you filled the CD cover with salty water would you get something similar, given that salty water is a conductor of electricity? Should be pretty easy for you to find out :)
Yes, it could actually work, and if you see my latest video featuring the Shake Flashlight Shaker, the source of power for the LED's can come from the faucet, too!
You must build a CD Turbine so you can try all your good ideas! Hehe I had this turbine in my kitchen sink for over a year and it worked flawlessly for all kinds of fun.
@allowacan The discs spin somewhere around 800 -1000 rpm. I used an electric motor from a Subaru car heater in my other "Tesla Tornado" videos. It has a magnetic flywheel that magnetically coupled to the disc pack inside a 3 foot tall clear tube.
@cabanayan2 It feels about the same as if you put your hand in the toilet vortex, or bathtub drain vortex...you can feel it, but it's not about to suck you in! The vortex temporarily changes shape, but rebounds quickly when the hand is withdrawn.
The way it works is that the CD Turbine runs on faucet water pressure. It has CD discs inside that spin around with magnets glued to them. I use a magnetic coupler, made with a couple of CD's and neodymium cylinder magnets, and put it into the water. The magnetic coupler engages and rotates with the rotating magnetic field of the turbine, creating the vortex. I like the vortex thingy idea, but it has been done quite well with a device called the Twister Tube. Google it...truly cool!
I like that you build with CD/DVD media, and cases. Along with magnets and water flow/pressure prime mover. You did a very nice job with balance of the machine, and the vortex that it produces. It seems the disc arrangement inside their case helps prevent offset. Is there any reason that you have used a 5-disc stack? Could 2, or 3 work? Would an impeller between the discs help, or is it just the amount of magnets required to get the torque (power)? Thanks and nice work, Joe
The thing is, I think back 2 years ago, the intel science fair's grand prize was a bio electric generator using polarized iron filled bacteria in a tube surrounded by wire. So, perhaps, you could produce a bit more power using the vortex as well to try to offset the power needed from the water. Do the turbines turn any slower from the added coupling?
Have you ever considered putting glittery stuff into the vortex and then somehow mounting LEDs to rotate? This thing would make an amazing lamp, though I think it would be very impractical.
@zafisto If you dropped the item dead centre, it would fall through the air until it hit the water part of the vortex. A very fast water vortex might make the air inside spin some too, but there is stillness at the very centre of a cyclone.
@tessaring Waterpower turns the discs inside the Tesla turbine, which rests under the vortex chamber. In turn, the Tesla Turbine is magnetically coupled to a Tesla Pump inside the vortex chamber. A Tesla Turbine is unique because it has no cups or blades, just smooth discs. Tesla patented his turbine and pump around 1909, and said in his autobiography that his turbine is "the greatest of all my inventions". See wikipedia under, "Tesla Turbine".
man this is so COOL! can you explain what the tesla turbine is acctualy doing to the water to cause the vortex? why not make an electric one for the livingroom to go with the other cool gadjets like the plasma thingy an lavalamps! make loads of money!
great experiment! i'm building a double vortex device, i saw on another video, but, i'm also gonna check yours out, and build it as well! thanx for sharin, tesla would be proud! om shanti
If this turbine was spun fast enough as a pump, it would create a near vacuum at the CD spindle post inlet. Unfortunately, CD discs are not the best material for very high rpms, and the magnets in my design lend toward lower rpms. I have a plan to remedy that, but for now I'm too scared to try too!
I guess it depends on what your buddy means by charged. I don't know if the water gets electrically or magnetically charged; apparently water responds to a magnetic field. Also, Schauberger believed that water moving in a vortex rejeuvinated, or recharged, the water.
Hi there. I love this device and want to build one - using the motor like in the christmas tree vortex. I followed your links to instructions but they came up blank. As far as I can figure you used 1/32" thick magnets (what width?) and 5 cd's glued together with the magnets evenly spaced in between. And for a motor, a 12v auto blower... any other tips more than welcome before I start. Thanks again. AWESOME
Hey there, great work. I just want to know how many rpm's the discs spin at to create that vortex. I'm into fountains and want to incorporate this into a drinking fountain I've got in mind. I'll probably use an electric motor to spin the flywheel, I just want to get an idea of how powerful a motor I should get. Know any cool cheap way of spinning the flywheel without an electric motor?
wow this is sick!!! but i'm a bit lost, u have a magnetic coupler on some cd's that have no propellers, and u rotate the magnetic base but cd's don't just stick to the bottom nor ware a whole in the plastic? i am actually wanting to build a large vortex lamp for my nephew, and i was going to to with some form of pump but im just mystified by the idea of a round flat surface can turn water like that.
Was there any water displacement when the vortex formed? looked like the water level stayed the same the whole time. Might be some cool science to it if it didn't raise the water level when formed.
Hey that looks really cool! Beautiful with the DVD colours! But what I don't understand: you are using waterfaucetpower to turn the waterbucket. What is Tesla about that?
Ok, I tried it, but I couldn't get a vortex to form under the rotating coupler. Maybe with nore rpm something interesting would happen! I did see a movie with a top-driven stirrer and dye in the water for a cool shape.
Thanks, it's one of my top 3 favorites out of the 40 videos I've done!
Nice, the more i see your videos the more enjoy them! The cool part is! They all in the kitchen sink! A kitchen sink has never been so intertaining like this before! Keep having fun!! :D
Glad you enjoy! I do, too. I've never spent so much time in the kitchen!
There are many examples of the vortex around us... a bathtub or sink drain, a tornado, a river whirlpool. And yes, if you squint just right, there's even beauty in a toilet vortex!
I really enjoyed this one...the vortex is so mesmorizing.
I will be taking this video up a notch, by using a 3 foot tall clear polycarbonate tube for a better look at the vortex effect.
wow this is one of the coolest things i have ever seen!
i hope you keep posting stuff its amazing
Yes, and the CD's dance at night to their own music, creating huge whirlpools.
I've got a vortex experiment coming up that will be incredible with a 3 foot tall, 6 inch diameter clear tube. I'll use dye, smoke, and floating/sinking objects to create some fun! This will be in a couple of weeks time.
@hyperdude217
Click on the Instructables link in the "more info" to go to my Instructables site with turbine building info. Go to the "SinkScience With The Tesla CD Turbine" instructable.
Let me know if any questions!
I love how quiet the tesla turbine is when running on water. Make that concept into a showcase fountain! Just add a pump to cycle the water to power the turbine! Some LEDs and ultrasound smoke, done!
yes, I notice lots of crafty things selected now.
I used to be memorized by the huge whirlpools at a local river when I was a kid. When I visualized being sucked into one, I simply swam down(in my mind) and popped up somewhere else. Like surfing, the secret it to "go with the flow", hehe.
A couple of years ago a buddy and I were going to make an egg-shaped container with special convoluted counter-rotating spinning discs inside, roughly based on Schaubergers ideas, for water purification and possible energy production.
thats pretty nifty!thanks.
those twister tubes look pretty sweet!
Love your stand up steven
Yes, the lower part is the Tesla disc turbine that is magnetically connected to the upper Tesla "pump". The lower turbine uses faucet water pressure to turn the discs, which have magnets to engage the upper "pump" magnetically.
I'll leave that up to you for your next Science Fair project!!
I did use a 1" styro ball that was really cool as it got sucked down and stayed underwater balanced. I'll post a video of it soon.
The resulting vortex shape would depend on the speed of the liquid inside the vase. With a sealed top like you suggest, the Tesla disc "pump" would have to go very fast to make a cavitation vapor bubble inside. But it could be done.
That would be a good experiment with a faster rpm than with the faucet water pressure driving the CD turbine seen here.
I will be doing some work with a 3 foot tall vortex soon...perhaps I will try that!
Hey thanks for the uplifting comment!
Building this SinkScience version of the Tesla CD Turbine requires about $50 worth of magnets, a nozzle, CD case, CD's and glue.
I have Instructables at Instructables(dot)com that have step-by-step instructions on how to build CD Turbines. This is the SinkScience version.
The link is found in the "more info" box to the right. >>>
Contact me if you have questions after reviewing the material.
There is no hole; it's a standing vortex created by a magnetically-coupled tesla pump disc pack inside the CD cover with water in it. That disc pack is connected magnetically to the magnetic field of the turbine to make it spin.
Yes, it helps to be on a well next to a rain forest! It costs me about 5 cents an hour in well pump power to run the turbine.
I don't run it very long usually. Especially since i blew the top right off the CD cakebox case.
The Tesla CD turbine is on a self-contained system in my last couple of videos, using re-circulated water and a pump.
Your Tesla Turbine stuff is great. I was thinking about your videos today and got the funny idea that you should use baking-soda and vinegar under high pressure to turn your turbine.
One big hint is about magnet size. The drive magnets must be strong enough for the size of the vortex, and power of the drive motor. A blower motor will require 6 of 1/2 x 1/2 inch neo magnets on the drive side, and on the driven disc side too. (I use a water-jet cut disc of Lexan to mount the magnets into) Smaller projects, smaller magnets and less power.
I haven't tried the Tesla pump idea yet, but I think it would be easy to do using an electric drill with a magnetic coupler driving the turbine backwards.
What a concept! I think Archimedes said" give me a lever long enough and I will move the world!"
God I love your videos, I was waiting to see if your were going to put a little LEGO in it to see what would happen. Keep it up the awesome work
It uses energy and currently has no other purpose than to inspire awe.
I have tried some experiments with objects in the vortex. For example, it's possible to completely submerge a 1 inch styrofoam ball in the vortex, and control it's height by the speed of the turbine.
Then there's the little plastic man I threw in...
Things suggest themselves after observing the vortex, and for me, that is a worthwhile purpose unto itself.
what a concept...supercooling to the point of instant crystallization...hmmm thanks for the mind bender!
I tried throwing in some styro beads and that was neat. I tried a 5' high vortex last week, but the turbine was too weak to pull it off. I will find a way to increase power, and get a good tall vortex to chuck things into.
re:ps I think I'd rather fly over the world than take it over, but thanks for suggestion!
Your videos amaze me. It's just so neat to watch the machines and how they work.
Keep it up! =)
Thanks for the comments, Joe
For better torque more discs than 2 or 3 should be used. There is a point where too many discs will cause excessive internal resistance, however, and without additional nozzles or increased pressure, may run slower.
The above version uses 25 discs, and is probably too many. It does run a couple of hundred rpm slower than a shorter-cased one with, say, 8 CD's.
An impeller between the discs may or may not help, depending on a few variables.
It's mesmerizing...
Good suggestion, thanks! I'll have to build a new SinkScience turbine 'cause this one blew it's top in the blender bursting movie.
pkscolax, that's a great idea! A gentle Tesla reminder for the office..."The Tesla Tornado" (tm) haha
I'd love to see how the tesla cd turbine is build .. pity your site doesn't work.
Very nice videoos btw .. love the magnetism everywhere !
There is something deep and universal in the image of the spiral vortex.
The bio electric generator doesn't use magnetics as it's way of generating power. It is a chemical/bilogical process that has an anode and cathode and uses sunlight.
The vortex acts as a flywheel to smooth out the take-off of power from various devices, but the turbine turns slower from the energy diverted into the vortex and friction.
exactly. I hope to use a 2.5 foot x 6 inch one for my Steampunk Parlour Room model.
That is pretty neat. The colors are go with it well:)
"make sure it's the seek adventure type ones" hahaha
Thanks for the idea, lol!
The turbine was running between 500 and 1000 rpm. Good luck with your vortex project...don't forget to video it!
thanks much for an awesome demonstration. I'm wondering what might happen if a bit of dye is dropped into the vortex.
thats amazing... i had no clue steven wright made things like this
I fixed the broken link to my "mrfixitrick" Instructables, found in the "show more" box.
It has complete instructions.
Glad to hear you are attempting this cool project! Use strong N52 magnets where possible, K&J Magnetics is a good source for magnets.(link in "show more" box)
Message me if you have questions!
Thanks for saying it didn't suck!
That was a really good demo thanks for sharing.
Hmmm, I do have 4 feet of 6 inch clear tubing, pump, led's and even a smoke generator...hehe.
Great idea, thanks for the comment!
For step-by-step building instructions of the Tesla CD Turbine, see my Instructables link in the "more info" to the right. >>>
From my understanding the reason the aluminium tin spun was due to the changing magnetic field (from the turbine) inducing a current in the tin which hence induced a magnetic field in the tin which opposed the motion of the turbine and hence caused the tin to rotate.
So if you filled the CD cover with salty water would you get something similar, given that salty water is a conductor of electricity?
Should be pretty easy for you to find out :)
Yes, it could actually work, and if you see my latest video featuring the Shake Flashlight Shaker, the source of power for the LED's can come from the faucet, too!
Awesome vid, quiet informative as well.
The vortex just slows down and disappears. The turbine runs a bit longer than usual from the momentum of the vortex and magnetic coupler.
You must build a CD Turbine so you can try all your good ideas! Hehe
I had this turbine in my kitchen sink for over a year and it worked flawlessly for all kinds of fun.
That's wonderful! Haha!
You should do a video and attach it to mine as a video response...it would likely go viral!
@allowacan
The discs spin somewhere around 800 -1000 rpm.
I used an electric motor from a Subaru car heater in my other "Tesla Tornado" videos. It has a magnetic flywheel that magnetically coupled to the disc pack inside a 3 foot tall clear tube.
@cabanayan2
It feels about the same as if you put your hand in the toilet vortex, or bathtub drain vortex...you can feel it, but it's not about to suck you in!
The vortex temporarily changes shape, but rebounds quickly when the hand is withdrawn.
The way it works is that the CD Turbine runs on faucet water pressure. It has CD discs inside that spin around with magnets glued to them. I use a magnetic coupler, made with a couple of CD's and neodymium cylinder magnets, and put it into the water. The magnetic coupler engages and rotates with the rotating magnetic field of the turbine, creating the vortex.
I like the vortex thingy idea, but it has been done quite well with a device called the Twister Tube. Google it...truly cool!
I like that you build with CD/DVD media, and cases. Along with magnets and water flow/pressure prime mover. You did a very nice job with balance of the machine, and the vortex that it produces.
It seems the disc arrangement inside their case helps prevent offset. Is there any reason that you have used a 5-disc stack? Could 2, or 3 work? Would an impeller between the discs help, or is it just the amount of magnets required to get the torque (power)?
Thanks and nice work, Joe
Brillant, i had to go off and look up what this was all about but i think i need to have a go. cool science :)
You have some very interesting videos.
Have you seen my Tesla Tornado series? They are 3 movies showing a 3 foot tall vortex.
Could you somehow turn this experiment upside down? to make a upgoing vortex? that would be cool too. I love vortex motion and science
The thing is, I think back 2 years ago, the intel science fair's grand prize was a bio electric generator using polarized iron filled bacteria in a tube surrounded by wire.
So, perhaps, you could produce a bit more power using the vortex as well to try to offset the power needed from the water.
Do the turbines turn any slower from the added coupling?
Have you ever considered putting glittery stuff into the vortex and then somehow mounting LEDs to rotate?
This thing would make an amazing lamp, though I think it would be very impractical.
@vickty007
Thanks for your contribution to the world of vortexes!
@MrfixitRick Maybe. That's great thinking. Good upload, as well!
I was wondering what you meant. Could you explain more about next level. I'm planning a 6 foot tall one...does that count?
@zafisto
If you dropped the item dead centre, it would fall through the air until it hit the water part of the vortex. A very fast water vortex might make the air inside spin some too, but there is stillness at the very centre of a cyclone.
@tessaring
Waterpower turns the discs inside the Tesla turbine, which rests under the vortex chamber. In turn, the Tesla Turbine is magnetically coupled to a Tesla Pump inside the vortex chamber.
A Tesla Turbine is unique because it has no cups or blades, just smooth discs.
Tesla patented his turbine and pump around 1909, and said in his autobiography that his turbine is "the greatest of all my inventions". See wikipedia under, "Tesla Turbine".
man this is so COOL! can you explain what the tesla turbine is acctualy doing to the water to cause the vortex? why not make an electric one for the livingroom to go with the other cool gadjets like the plasma thingy an lavalamps! make loads of money!
That should be cool. I wonder how much water the CDs will spin though.
If every weapon in the world got sucked into it, it would be the best invention the planet has ever known!!
great experiment!
i'm building a double vortex device, i saw on another video, but, i'm also gonna check yours out, and build it as well!
thanx for sharin, tesla would be proud!
om shanti
@allowacan
Thanks for the reminder. I need to rebuild that site.
If this turbine was spun fast enough as a pump, it would create a near vacuum at the CD spindle post inlet.
Unfortunately, CD discs are not the best material for very high rpms, and the magnets in my design lend toward lower rpms.
I have a plan to remedy that, but for now I'm too scared to try too!
Excellent, good sir!
Thanks for the ideas...sounds like you are familiar with the work of Victor Schauberger?
good idea, or maybe little styro beads...I'll try with next attempt.
it takes a lot of energy to freeze any liquid in motion
probably colder than liquid nitrogen depending on the speed
Aweasome, but does the water that is used, goes wasted?
if yes, big water bill?
I guess it depends on what your buddy means by charged. I don't know if the water gets electrically or magnetically charged; apparently water responds to a magnetic field. Also, Schauberger believed that water moving in a vortex rejeuvinated, or recharged, the water.
you can see the swirling force lines of the vortex
Hi there. I love this device and want to build one - using the motor like in the christmas tree vortex. I followed your links to instructions but they came up blank. As far as I can figure you used 1/32" thick magnets (what width?) and 5 cd's glued together with the magnets evenly spaced in between. And for a motor, a 12v auto blower... any other tips more than welcome before I start. Thanks again. AWESOME
Hey there, great work. I just want to know how many rpm's the discs spin at to create that vortex. I'm into fountains and want to incorporate this into a drinking fountain I've got in mind. I'll probably use an electric motor to spin the flywheel, I just want to get an idea of how powerful a motor I should get. Know any cool cheap way of spinning the flywheel without an electric motor?
wow this is sick!!! but i'm a bit lost, u have a magnetic coupler on some cd's that have no propellers, and u rotate the magnetic base but cd's don't just stick to the bottom nor ware a whole in the plastic? i am actually wanting to build a large vortex lamp for my nephew, and i was going to to with some form of pump but im just mystified by the idea of a round flat surface can turn water like that.
If you put iron filings in the water, and wrapped wire around it, column, could you potentially generate energy from it?
This is a cool expirement.
@MrfixitRick drop some dry ice inside while it spinning, it should freeze.... if you throw enough of it inside. Try it and film it thx!
Was there any water displacement when the vortex formed? looked like the water level stayed the same the whole time. Might be some cool science to it if it didn't raise the water level when formed.
that makes me want to try and freeze a vortex of water using your method and perhaps something extra though dun know what
that would be cool but i think you need like instant freeze cuz all that movement probably creates heat.
Saw your featured video which i thought was kind of pointless, this however is pretty cool.
Not bad, I like the idea! A Tesla turbine hooked up to a fire extinguisher...
@OerAnime
Beauty becomes the Beast...of the Vortex!
THATS SO COOL!!!! could you type what materials i need for this cause i wanna try it!
Hey that looks really cool! Beautiful with the DVD colours! But what I don't understand: you are using waterfaucetpower to turn the waterbucket. What is Tesla about that?
i see the singularity, very cool.
Ok, I tried it, but I couldn't get a vortex to form under the rotating coupler. Maybe with nore rpm something interesting would happen! I did see a movie with a top-driven stirrer and dye in the water for a cool shape.
Does it create energy, or just use it??
Does this serve a purpose other than looking cool??
Thanks