I loved this. I wish you were the science guy for garand thunbs video. The data is phenomenal, and you're doing a solid job of giving average guys well digestible info to leverage. Uncle Sugar isn't footing the bill for me, and you can't be on meal team 6 without budget going to the name.
I use an aems core. And for a budget option it is really good. I'm not a fan of holographic and the T2 is good but the window is small and the body blocks a lot for me all right around where I want to see. The clarity with NV on the t2 and th eotech is better and that is helpful in forest stuff when you get a lot of splash and IR shadow. Any of these optics won't get you laughed at and will work. Beautiful video! I'm so impressed with your work.
That's good for Holosun, considering they are using the AEMS as the base for the DRS-NV and DRS-TH hypbrid optics. Now poke them and get them to release the DRS-TH. :)
Excellent video! And thanks for the shoutout, glad I could supply the Romeo 8T for your research and content. They're even harder to find now! Truly few and far between lol. I think part 2 should definitely feature the B team optics: a Comp M4, Romeo 4t, and the Mepro Tru-Vision. I know first hand how painstaking this kind of content is to produce. Keep pumping out greatness!
I appreciate you taking the time to watch, and am glad you enjoy my videos. I have many more in the works, just trying to find the time to get them all edited and uploaded!
Cool test. Couple of things if you want to do this a little more fairly in the future- Get a broadband light source (tungsten halogen lamp with the ir filter removed). Get a VIS-NIR Spectrometer instead of a light meter and measure power at useful night vision wavelengths (808nm, 835nm, 850nm, 940nm ETC-this will test how effective the light transmission is with AR coatings). 3d print baffled tube apertures that match the objective window diameter of the aimpoint t2 for all the optics. Even your baseline without an optic should have a baffled tube aperture in front of the spectrometer. If you don’t want to shell out a lot for a spectrometer try getting a calibrated laser power meter and measure specific wavelength power. If you do get an LPM, get an integrating sphere for more accurate measurements and a fixed aperture.
I considered using my laser power meter and a laser but the largest concern was the different lens coatings bouncing back different levels various wavelengths of light. My test is by no means perfect or the most scientific approach, but was my best attempt to quantify performance with the limited tools on hand.
It would be awesome if you could do this same test, but for some of the budget options. I run the exps3 on my main gun, but I’d love to know what budget red dots are at least usable performance for cheap/recreational builds
I really like the AEMS. Where it kind of falls short is use with magnifiers behind it, it’s not a very sharp reticle and I believe it’s due to the slight magnification the optic has. If on a rig you don’t need a magnifier on, it’s fantastic
@@4MRRanchinteresting I haven’t experienced that with my AEMS. Have you tried it with just the dot? This was one point you didn’t mention but I think is worth bringing up. A dot looks much better under night vision passive aiming. Obscures less of the target and less light pollution. A small dot like 1 moa is even better. This is where the t2, sig and Aems have a distinct advantage in being able to run a dot only. The sig and Aems have the advantage of the circle dot for use during the day. I own every optic in this video and it pains me to say but the AEMS is the best “all around” in my opinion. Eotech pisses me off with shitty battery life. Aimpoint has only a dot and is expensive but otherwise a good optic. Sig is insanely heavy. Vortex is a good choice as well but for passive aiming I like the Aems a bit more
@@s0bedrag0n happy you enjoy my videos. I agree the world of NV is overwhelming at times, I’m still learning as I go, and figured I might as well share my experiences
very nice video. Can you do a comparison of a t2 vs a comp m4? on paper they say they have the same light transmission but the m4 has a larger tube diameter so in theory it might have a slightly better transmission
The m4 is supposed to do a very good job. I don’t personally own one, but I can imagine the transparency per unit area is about the same, with the m4 simply having a larger cross section for light to travel through
I have an Eotech XPS3-0 on my 11.5" AR and a Holosun AEMS green on my Tavor X95, to be honest I like the AEMS more now as it is clearer and I find green much easier to pickup than red in sunlight.
Great comparison. Romeo 8t and 4t pro have become my favorite NV optics. My only complaint on the video is I wish you took a few seconds of just looking through the optics statically with NV. I understand you wanted to show the parallax but it makes it hard to compare the raw light transmission performance
The reason for moment is to not risk damaging the tube more so than parallax. It’s very hard to judge the brightness the tube is being exposed to through the camera rig, and I don’t want to risk damage. I’ll try to slow the moment down some if I revisit this kind of video.
@@4MRRanch that's fair. Even just using a screen shot to get a still image would be great. You could also use a still from all the different optics so we can compare them directly against each other in one image
@@4MRRanch Ah yeah good point. Maybe tape off the sensor with a small known area left showing and go off of the lux over that given area. Not sure how the edge of the cover would affect readings though.
I don’t think you can go wrong with the EXPS, I just want to see eotech innovate a little more. They seem somewhat complacent, but then again if it’s not broken don’t fix it
This was a bad comparison in a high light environment in your backyard. A better comparison would be these optics at your range when there is little to no ambient light sources
And if I did that than some people would want to see an environment with light pollution since these are “tactical” optics. Sorry you wasted your time on this video.
@@4MRRanch notnalot of positive reveiws with the vortex huey. Hop made a vid. Garand thumb made a vid. Forgot who else. But the huey has some real problems
I loved this. I wish you were the science guy for garand thunbs video.
The data is phenomenal, and you're doing a solid job of giving average guys well digestible info to leverage.
Uncle Sugar isn't footing the bill for me, and you can't be on meal team 6 without budget going to the name.
That would be cool to collaborate with the GT team.
I appreciate your feedback and am glad to hear you enjoy my video style
I use an aems core. And for a budget option it is really good. I'm not a fan of holographic and the T2 is good but the window is small and the body blocks a lot for me all right around where I want to see. The clarity with NV on the t2 and th eotech is better and that is helpful in forest stuff when you get a lot of splash and IR shadow. Any of these optics won't get you laughed at and will work. Beautiful video! I'm so impressed with your work.
@@sliderofelay I appreciate the kind words and for sharing your personal insights. Many more like this to come.
That's good for Holosun, considering they are using the AEMS as the base for the DRS-NV and DRS-TH hypbrid optics. Now poke them and get them to release the DRS-TH. :)
I have briefly talked to them about the DRS-TH. I may eventually put a review together on one. I know they’re getting progress on it
Excellent video! And thanks for the shoutout, glad I could supply the Romeo 8T for your research and content. They're even harder to find now! Truly few and far between lol. I think part 2 should definitely feature the B team optics: a Comp M4, Romeo 4t, and the Mepro Tru-Vision. I know first hand how painstaking this kind of content is to produce. Keep pumping out greatness!
Happy to do it, thanks for the support. I’ll probably revisit this video and add to the optics tested.
4:43 Thank you for showing us how you filming this amazing content!
Good to see all these objective experiments and datas!
Glad you enjoyed it!, and yes wanted to give some context to what I was doing to simulate some movement for potential parallax
Excellent video as always. Great info, and very good editing. We can all tell you take some time to do it up right, and we appreciate it.
I appreciate you taking the time to watch, and am glad you enjoy my videos. I have many more in the works, just trying to find the time to get them all edited and uploaded!
Amazing video, loved in the depth comparison and thank you as always for supporting us and using Armasight
Happy to be able to keep these videos coming!
Came from Reddit, Great video. Thanks for sharing!!
Thanks for taking the time to watch. I appreciate you
Great job on the video... Holosun continues to impress
They make some solid gear
Camera setup is insane!
She’s thick in all the right ways.
Always good and informative
Very good review, brother
Thanks for taking the time to watch it
Nice comparison, thanks for making the video.
Thanks for taking the time to watch
Wow that holosun did fantastic can't imagine what the bigger one is like
I wanted to try one, but took what I could get!
I have a vortex Huey gen 1 and that was not cutting it for envy operations so I picked up an AEMS for flux build and that has been pretty awesome
The aems is certainly underrated
Great video! If you do another one you should consider the romeo 4xt pro
I wish that one was on the list for sure!
Cool test. Couple of things if you want to do this a little more fairly in the future-
Get a broadband light source (tungsten halogen lamp with the ir filter removed).
Get a VIS-NIR Spectrometer instead of a light meter and measure power at useful night vision wavelengths (808nm, 835nm, 850nm, 940nm ETC-this will test how effective the light transmission is with AR coatings).
3d print baffled tube apertures that match the objective window diameter of the aimpoint t2 for all the optics.
Even your baseline without an optic should have a baffled tube aperture in front of the spectrometer.
If you don’t want to shell out a lot for a spectrometer try getting a calibrated laser power meter and measure specific wavelength power. If you do get an LPM, get an integrating sphere for more accurate measurements and a fixed aperture.
I considered using my laser power meter and a laser but the largest concern was the different lens coatings bouncing back different levels various wavelengths of light.
My test is by no means perfect or the most scientific approach, but was my best attempt to quantify performance with the limited tools on hand.
It would be awesome if you could do this same test, but for some of the budget options. I run the exps3 on my main gun, but I’d love to know what budget red dots are at least usable performance for cheap/recreational builds
Just bought a T2 for my NV gun. Probably going to try a aems now too based on this video.
I really like the AEMS. Where it kind of falls short is use with magnifiers behind it, it’s not a very sharp reticle and I believe it’s due to the slight magnification the optic has. If on a rig you don’t need a magnifier on, it’s fantastic
@@4MRRanchinteresting I haven’t experienced that with my AEMS. Have you tried it with just the dot? This was one point you didn’t mention but I think is worth bringing up. A dot looks much better under night vision passive aiming. Obscures less of the target and less light pollution. A small dot like 1 moa is even better. This is where the t2, sig and Aems have a distinct advantage in being able to run a dot only. The sig and Aems have the advantage of the circle dot for use during the day. I own every optic in this video and it pains me to say but the AEMS is the best “all around” in my opinion. Eotech pisses me off with shitty battery life. Aimpoint has only a dot and is expensive but otherwise a good optic. Sig is insanely heavy. Vortex is a good choice as well but for passive aiming I like the Aems a bit more
Love these reviews. Which IR lights, lasers and NVG to get can be expensive and confusing.
@@s0bedrag0n happy you enjoy my videos. I agree the world of NV is overwhelming at times, I’m still learning as I go, and figured I might as well share my experiences
very nice video. Can you do a comparison of a t2 vs a comp m4? on paper they say they have the same light transmission but the m4 has a larger tube diameter so in theory it might have a slightly better transmission
The m4 is supposed to do a very good job. I don’t personally own one, but I can imagine the transparency per unit area is about the same, with the m4 simply having a larger cross section for light to travel through
I've owned both in the glass quality is very similar, for night vision the larger window on the comp m4 is very nice
I have an Eotech XPS3-0 on my 11.5" AR and a Holosun AEMS green on my Tavor X95, to be honest I like the AEMS more now as it is clearer and I find green much easier to pickup than red in sunlight.
The AEMS is a great optic.
Great comparison. Romeo 8t and 4t pro have become my favorite NV optics.
My only complaint on the video is I wish you took a few seconds of just looking through the optics statically with NV. I understand you wanted to show the parallax but it makes it hard to compare the raw light transmission performance
The reason for moment is to not risk damaging the tube more so than parallax. It’s very hard to judge the brightness the tube is being exposed to through the camera rig, and I don’t want to risk damage. I’ll try to slow the moment down some if I revisit this kind of video.
@@4MRRanch that's fair. Even just using a screen shot to get a still image would be great. You could also use a still from all the different optics so we can compare them directly against each other in one image
I run the Aems because it the only one i don't see a million dots. I have looked thru everything.
It’s a nice little optic
4:02 Maybe show lux/area of the window? Would that be a better representation of light transmission?
Gets complicated when the light meter can’t cover the whole area of every optic I have, it a potential thought for sure
@@4MRRanch Ah yeah good point. Maybe tape off the sensor with a small known area left showing and go off of the lux over that given area. Not sure how the edge of the cover would affect readings though.
Wonder if an anti reflective device might help with the light emission at night.
Yeah have been a cool extra data point to test.
Romeo 4XT pro next time pls
Box optic supremacy
Basically lol
I ran a duty RDS and it must have been even worse than the T2. Ended up upgrading to the EXPS mostly for my astigmatism though
I don’t think you can go wrong with the EXPS, I just want to see eotech innovate a little more. They seem somewhat complacent, but then again if it’s not broken don’t fix it
Welp I guess if I'm using a T2 at night, they're going to know about it as it's a beacon
100%, I kept seeing flashes at work and thought some idiot had his heart monitor on his garmin watch still enabled. Nope, just a t2...scary.
Include a Sig Romeo 4t next time. I’ll only cry a little if it was a poor choice.
That was on my radar, but limited budget and lack of response from sig hindered showing their units unfortunately
No comp m4/m5 :(
Didn’t have unlimited budget and didn’t want to make it a longer video than necessary. Maybe in the future!
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This was a bad comparison in a high light environment in your backyard. A better comparison would be these optics at your range when there is little to no ambient light sources
And if I did that than some people would want to see an environment with light pollution since these are “tactical” optics.
Sorry you wasted your time on this video.
1:08, no they fucking dont LOL. See vortex Huey reveiws all over, youll see why
@@trentmorrison6074 I’m not sure if I follow.. what are you disagreeing to?
@@4MRRanch notnalot of positive reveiws with the vortex huey. Hop made a vid. Garand thumb made a vid. Forgot who else. But the huey has some real problems