I saw St Etienne fans away at their biggest rival Lyon while travelling through France and they impressed me so much I started following the club, I didn't even go to the game, I just liked their energy in the streets.
Saint-Etienne share the record now for most league titles with PSG but I don’t see them winning the league anytime soon and I believe they will not get promoted next season and probably end up like kaiserslautern if they don’t fix the many mistakes they have.
@@neonyzr Monaco had Kylian Mbappe that season....PSG basically stole him off them immediately after ON LOAN! Monaco had a monster season gaining 95 points in 2016/17 - Lille won the title with just 83 points as PSG were all over the place and still finished just a point behind Lille. Monaco won the title with a great season, Lille's win was a Fluke - That's the difference.
What a brilliant club with brilliant fans.I live approx-2km away from Hampden park Glasgow and my team is Celtic Fc.When i was a schoolboy in 1976 my father took me to the 'then' European cup final.To see and HEAR 50-60,000 St Etienne fans singing in the big packed North enclosure +half of each end behind the goal was something that i will never forget.The noise,and all singing in unison was heard km's away+the 'allez les verts' song was Incredible+I remember St Etienne hitting the post brilliant+sad at the same time (those Square posts) IF they were round the ball might've went in (i wish it did') spot the German was what a commentator said when watching the highlights later...Since then i have been a part-time St Etienne fan & its the only European cup final not on RUclips.I would love to see that game again and Unlucky St Etienne 'on that night'. & i wish your team could be back where it belongs! at the top of French football !!!.
Merci l'ami... cette défaite imméritée a été une immense souffrance pour nous presque 50 après on a toujours pas digéré... et personnellement en tant que catholique et pro IRA dans mon adolescence je suis fan du celtic depuis longtemps...en 1968 mon père avait vu jouer le celtic a saint Etienne en coupe d'Europe Les fans du celtic étaient super et très sympathiques ... allez les verts !🇲🇫🏴
I was among the Saint Etienne Fans at old trafford, and must say this game we really gave it all. We lost, it was expected, but we at least wanted to give a lasting impression ;)
I’ve only had bad experiences with them, I went to saint etienne a few years ago for a European match. My friend was threatened to be killed in their hotel by a fan, luckily she didn’t
Both Saint-Éttiene and Girondins will have a hard time bouncing back at the first attempt, as Ligue 2 will only have two promotion places in the 2022-23 season due to Ligue 1's reduction to 18 teams for the 2023-24 season (which will have four teams relegated).
@@aidygooner The 4 relegations will only happen for the 2022-23 season (the last one with 20 teams), the 2023-24 season with 18 teams will revert back to the 2 relegations with a relegation play-off spot. The knock-off effect of Ligue 1's reduction will be worse for the lower leagues below Ligue 2, as they'll have between 5 and 6 relegations per league.
@@aidygooner Btw, the Coupe the la Ligue has already been scrapped, with the 2019-20 edition being the last one ever. I can see other major leagues following suit in the coming years with the impending UCL reforms.
That pitch invasion on Sunday was the most insane I’ve ever seen, but I have a hard time deciding whether it was actually worse than the ADO Den Haag hooligans who were throwing flares into the section of Excelsior fans after their match. Both are absolutely ridiculous, regardless.
As a Liverpool fan, St. Etienne in European Cup QF second leg in 1977 was probably the greatest night at Anfield in Europe. And yes that includes Barcelona in 2019 semi. David Fairclough’s winner was the start of our greatest period in LFC history.
As someone wrote before me, I think the only, truly positive aspect of going back to the second tier for clubs like Saint-Etienne and Bordeaux is the growing reputation of Ligue 2 itself. Just like Ligue 1, Ligue 2 has become more and more a hotbed of young talent and interesting tactical ideas, so much that it's become a fertile place for investments by clubs from the best European leagues: that could be a vital source of income for these "fallen giants". As an example, Toulouse, who finished at the bottom of Ligue 1 in 2020, during the last summer lost four of their brightest talents to top-tier clubs (Kelvin Amian and Janis Antiste to Spezia, in Serie A; Kouadio Koné to Borussia M'Gladbach and Amine Adli to Bayer Leverkusen, in Bundesliga). Still, thanks the amount of money they could reinvest from these sales and the number of promising players they still held on to, they've just managed to win the league and return to the top-flight. To be honest, both Saint-Etienne and Bordeaux have still some good talents in their hands, and if they can re-discover the magic they once had, I think they can pull a Toulouse and set themselves for stability and success back again quite quickly. If not, they could end up like Hamburg (former German icons) and become stuck in a limbo that might cause even more damage. I believe this risk is still worth-taking, but the question is: are the respective boards really willing to take it?
Excellent video as ever. I'd like a video on the trials at FC Dallas, a club that has produced multiple notable players in its academy (Weston McKennie and Chris Richards among them), yet fail to do anything of significance in MLS. If there was ever a club that perplexed MLS fans, it's probably this one. The story of the Dallas Tornado world tour is pretty funny too, if you've never read that. Not a video idea per se, I just thought you might enjoy a book recommendation.
People may disagree but I believe that ligue 2 is an absolutely incredible second division. People slate ligue 1, which I believe is unfair but ligue 2 in my opinion is the 3rd best second division behind 2.bundesliga and the championship. Massive clubs who get a lot of fans in their stadiums week in week out . Class league
@@Micfri300 a italian talking about big leagues when your league hasn't won anything important continental title in years even the bundesliga has won more in the last years
Back in my younger days, I wanted to have a team to follow in all the big leagues and I started following St.-Etienne. It has been uphill for a number of years. First, the Lyon domination and later the major struggles in the league ending with the relegation last season. This season isn't looking stellar either. The club could do with a new ownership. Should be an interesting club to run with it's major fan base and historic achievements, you would think.
I really adored this team when Arsenal were linked to their best trio back then, Gomis, Matuidi and Dabo, to this day I still wanted that trio. I also remember asking my French teacher about the city and he told me, it was a sh*thole industrial city.
Most folks left Saint-Etienne to go work elsewhere, notably Lyon. Funny enough, when ASSE was at the top of ligue 1, football was kinda the only thing Saint-Etienne was doing better than Lyon. They were like, you have the money and the economical growth, but you won't have football, poetic isn't it?
@@SkyDread Pas du tout, beaucoup de gens vont travailler à Lyon mais beaucoup de Lyonnais vont travailler et étudier à Saint-Étienne aussi, il serait temps d'arrêter de raconter n'importe quoi
As a Saint-Étienne fan, all I can say is that no one is willing to work for the badge, play for the badge or defend our honour. From the owners to the coaching board to the players, nobody has had the passion and the willingness to defend the club's honour; the owners just want profit, the coaches and players better opportunities elsewhere. As such none of them pour their heart into the club like the fans do. It's been the case since Galtier's (or Gasset's) departure and Loïc Perrin's retirement. The club will never quite be the same again, but one thing that is for sure is that the passion will never change for the Stéphanois. Allez les Verts from Hong Kong 💚💚
@@grant8340 he's very skilled technically but is very poor in finishing. And he always plays like he's just looking forward to playing for a better club.
Hey Alfie, could you do a vid on FC Dinamo Bucharest, my local team. As 18-time Romanian champions, 13-time Romanian cup winners, and 1st time champions league semi-finalists among Romanian clubs, Dinamo is Romania's 2nd most successful club side, and yet we are suffering an unprecedented plight. we have just suffered the first relegation of our 74-year history. Was wondering if you could take a look into what on earth is going on at Dinamo (with or without the WOEIGO title) Edit: In terms of English football, this is like Arsenal or Liverpool being relegated from the Prem. For Romania, this is hardly a first. It's happened to Universitatea Craiova, a provincial team who now have 2 teams with the same name in the top flight. It's happened to Rapid Bucharest, Romania's 3rd most successful team, who had to restart from the 4th tier, much like Rangers. And there is also a trend of new teams pumping money into the club, winning the league, playing maybe 5 mins of UCL football, and basically going bust within a few years. Oțelul Galați, Unirea Urziceni, and Astra Giurgiu are examples of this over the last 10-15 years. The latter famously got past West Ham in a Europa League qualifier, and now they've suffered back-to-back relegations.
I would also like Alfie to make a video about Dinamo, but I don't think I would be able to watch it. Aside from that 2016-17 season, when there was a small chance for us to win the title, everything has been going wrong for the past 10-15 years.
With Dinamo being relegated they lose their titles as well IIRC because Badea had a clause inserted when he sold the club that if Dinamo ever got relegated the trophies would be transferred over to CS FC Dinamo, a team in 4th tier. Dark times..
@@youoweme1937 that's another thing that foreign viewers may be unfamiliar with. In Romania, buying a club does not mean buying the club's trophies and achievements up to that point, they are separate. Same with the club's badge. This is why Nicolae Badea (former owner of Dinamo, who are known as FC Dinamo 1948) now owns ACS FC Dinamo in the 4th tier of Romanian football and claims the club's badge and trophies. FC Dinamo 1948, the real team who got relegated to the second tier for the first time ever, still claim the club's badge and trophy cabinet. This could lead to a lawsuit, which would be difficult for DDB, Dinamo's supporters group, to handle. Over the past few years, DDB memberships and donations have kept the club from going bust in the last few years, going as far as paying players' wages and contributing to the club's transfer budget. A far cry from the days of Badea, specifically from 2007, when FC Dinamo 1948 last won the title and was also generating revenue from UCL and UEL games regularly. Edit: This is another video idea: Romanian sides constantly underperform in Europe and have been doing so for the last 10 years or so. Aside from Steaua's (now known as FCSB) UEL run that ended in a narrow 3-2 aggregate defeat to a Chelsea team featuring the likes of Eden Hazard and Fernando Torres, we haven't had any great European runs recently. As teams keep losing to smaller opponents, Romania's country coefficient also plummets, meaning Romanian teams have to beat even more teams if they want to make it into the group stage of a European tournament (which is almost always the Conference League nowadays)
Thanks Alfie, I have trouble sleeping and your videos have helped immensely to get me to doze off. I think of them as soccer bedtime stories! Your videos are very relaxing. My favorite might be the one on Darlington FC or the video on John Delaney and the Irish FA. Keep it up!
What is going on with 🇹🇷 Bursaspor? Twelve years after their maiden Süper Lig title (2009-2010), Bursaspor was relegated to TFF 2nd League, that said, the third tier of Turkish football. Since I'm not Turkish nor I speak/read that language: What leaded Bursaspor to experience such a slow but steady decline as a club in 12 years? For the record, set aside Trabzonspor with its dominance in Turkish football in the 70s and early 80s plus their recent title, Bursaspor is the other lone club not based in Istanbul which has won the league title in Turkey.
Do what on earth is going on at CAF (the Algeria Cameroon arbitration scandal, the champions league final that was played in Wydad casa home stadium, Ghana Vs South Africa imaginary penalty)
I was wondering, could you do a video on the victors of the relegation Playoff Auxerre? They went from playing UCL football in 2010 to playing second division football in 2012.
Saint Etienne are one of my favourite respective French clubs daily and ever in this world and other planets but to see this one of real big clubs to be relegated several times would easily make me to be shocked and totally stunned by their latest relegation when I did watch their standing in the French Ligue 1 table!!!Honestly,I have been watching several of their respective matches and was depressed with some of their horror shows and were relegated after losing on penalties by Auxerre in the "Relegation Playoff Match" and their relegation is through the only reason,diabolical management over the last 10 years,good friends!!!I must be watching their French League 2's respective matches when the next season would start and am fully hoping for their promotion in the first attempt with a reason but they must have a good management and their signings must valuable ones,good friends!!!LONG LIVE SAINT ETIENNE!!!🙏
Day 8 - The Fall and Rise of FK Velež Mostar From a Club that has beaten Borussia Dortmund, Twente, Derby County and many others to a club that was forced from their own stadium, reduced to nothing during the Bosnian War, becoming a mediocre top-level team in the 00s to nearly being forced into folding in 2016 to its amazing rise back to the top-level football which culminated in return to Europe after 33 years which has seen elimination of Coleraine before a suprising win over AEK Athens before exiting 3rd Round against Elfsborg IF and recently continuing in the Cup win this season which has ensured another European summer next season
nah, I think Bordeaux decline is worse than St Etienne. From the club that broke Lyon Ligue 1 monopoly in 2009 to being last in the recently concluded Ligue 1 season. Mon dieu.
Great video as usual! Could you do a video on the danish football club Esbjerg fB or shortened EfB, a club who a couple a years got bronze in the Danish Superliga to now have recently relegated to 2. Division (our 3. Division in Danmark). Heck they even qualified for the Europa League by beating Saint Etienne in the play-off round back in 2013-14. Its a great fall from grace, over a short period.
What always puzzles me is the amount of violence you are allowed to do when wearing a football jersey. Throw a brick at someone while wearing a jersey: at best a fine and stadium ban. Throw a brick at someone while not wearing a football jersey: Attempted homocide? Jail time? With this difference it just feels like football offers an open invite to violence inclined people. Maybe we should try and stop seeing football violence as a seperate thing and just judge it for what it is.
Day 34: Considering that the last player who played in the miracle of Bern died about 6 months ago, I would really like to see a video about the whole story between Germany and Hungary, especially because it meant so much to at least the German population
@@semipro2810 yep agreed lol, it just always makes me chuckle how random the suggestions are , like the guy who's still asking for an Indonesian all time best XI video ha ha.
Must admit im not a huge follower of ligue 1 but sad to see what is happening to historically big clubs in that league.. first bordeaux and now saint ettiene.
Very good documentary. Having half of my family from there but being born in Lyon, I feel very sad about there downfall. It feels weird to have your historical rival sink like this somehow. I 100% confirm that the city breaths football. Back in the days, my dad was playing soccer with the teachers at school, if the game was not over, the teachers would insist on finishing the game instead of going back to the classroom to study! The "derby" (Lyon - Saint-Etienne) is (was) always a very exiting event (won't happen any time soon sadly). By the way, the way you pronounce Saint-Etienne is kinda weird and cute at the same time. I just discover your channel, if you like to cover French Ligue 1 club, Olympique Lyonnais is quite an epic one to cover. Or even the "derby" OL-ASSE throughout the years could be a good continuity of that one. Cheers
Hi HITC SEVENS, i am a fan from Brasil and i love your videos. I was wondering if you could do a Frankfurt based video telling their history and the recent sucess of the club. Thank you :)
As of today, the club is 20th in the 2nd div. Money wise, the club is so fragile that a relegation in 3rd div would mean nohing less than the club's death, going back to the amateur status as an administrative relegation in 4th div is inevitable in the case of another relegation. Today a whole city is sad, because football is the only thing we've got here. We thought we had seen the biggest failure of the club, but it's still happening. Nobody is surprised anymore, yet many of us are crying the death of our club. All of this because of the ingerence of our presidents, two rich af individuals floating above the shithole my city became. One is still trying to manage the club, the other one is chilling in Dubai since 3 years now. But don't worry ! Everyone will remember them motherfuckers as the two clowns who managed to kill the biggest historic French club.
To some “plucky” British RUclipsr the league titles PSG gain are hollow but to players like Kimpembe who has been at PSG since he was 13 years old, or to the old PSG fans who watched their team go from watching a great team in the 90’s to watching their team flirt with relegation. This title means something, but of course a PLUCKY RUclipsr from Britain wouldnt know that
Alfie, you recently talked about doing a positive story .........how about nottingham forest???? Bottom of the table, worst start in 108 years to promotion and loudest atmosphere in new Wembley history?
I know it isn’t exclusive to France, but with the mess at the UCL Final and now this pitch invasion at St. Etienne, I hope this sparks some changes in how these stadiums deal with security. I get that the stewards probably aren’t paid enough to throw themselves in front of literal mobs to stop these people, but this sort of thing can’t keep happening when players are getting attacked and hurt. It’s such stupid behavior.
Now we’re approaching the period of transfer madness, you should do a video doing either the best free transfer each Premier League team could make or maybe a video where you go over 7 players who aren’t linked to certain club buy would actually fit there and/or would be a good transfer
Great video. May I ask if you might make a vídeo about what is going on in southamerican club Alianza Lima. They are one of the two biggest clubs in Peru; yet they have not won a single game in the Copa Libertadores in 27 games. They had also avoid relegation by TAS in 2020, so I think it would be an interesting topic...
Ligue 1 this season is absolute madness. PSG reclaiming the throne; Marseille and Monaco resurgence; surprises like Rennes, Nice, Strasbourg and Nantes finishing top-table places; Lyon and Lille slumps; ultimately the demise of Bordeaux and Saint-Etienne, two traditional clubs. Oh yeah also, violence everywhere.
To be fair, the previous owner sold Lille and they had to let go of many of their star players. I'm still sad about the mid-table finish, but it could be worse 😓
Really good video, but the last statement isn't totally true: PSG have never been relegated. They've played in Ligue 2 once, when the club was founded and got up after the first season, but they never went down as far as I know. The closest they have been in recent years is in 2008/09, when they nearly avoided relegation in the last match of the season, winning 1-2 against Sochaux (who is also a club that is going through problems and scandals, like every club in France ahah)
Best German players in the premier league of all time. (Day 330) I will not give up until the video is made or Alfie himself tells me to stop. Everyone else telling me that will be ignored. If you don't believe my number, just go back to the previous videos. I'm at the bottom most of the time, but I'm there.
Reminds me of Rust Belt cities in the United States and their football teams. Browns, Steelers, Lions, Bills, Colts, Ravens and Green Bay; these cities cling to their teams, for better or worse. I get it. I shall root for them in France.
You should make a video about the relegation of Genoa CFC in Italy, maybe if we go back to the Serie A next year you could make it then, it would be more pleasant
Forgot to mention that in that 75/76 final st etienne could have won is the goal posts weree round. platini smacked a free kick from long range and hit the square post right on the corner so bounced out.. might have gone in with round posts..
None of the other French teams can compete with PSG'S millions it's that simple really and without major investment in the league it's not going to change any time soon.
For teams who play in green. How about the disaster of Northwich Victoria. Founder members of the second division. Having abandoned the oldest ground in world football and building a new stadium about 100m from to their town rivals, Witton Albion in 1997. The new ground was demolished 6 years later. Northwich Victoria then wandered around to play home games as far away as Stafford. They now share with the aforementioned rivals. A bit of a tale. They sort of still exist.
I saw St Etienne fans away at their biggest rival Lyon while travelling through France and they impressed me so much I started following the club, I didn't even go to the game, I just liked their energy in the streets.
I love how every connective word is represented in the video by the image of a player with a similar sounding name. A lovely touch
Love that. Especially when he says "Anyhow" and uses a picture of Eddie Howe.
Saint-Etienne share the record now for most league titles with PSG but I don’t see them winning the league anytime soon and I believe they will not get promoted next season and probably end up like kaiserslautern if they don’t fix the many mistakes they have.
I don't see any team other than PSG to win the League anytime soon. Lille was a one off
There is hope for Kaiserslautern as they got promoted in the to the 2. Bundesliga in the play-offs against Dinamo Dresden a week ago
@JLingz 14 monaco in 2016/17
@@neonyzr Monaco had Kylian Mbappe that season....PSG basically stole him off them immediately after ON LOAN!
Monaco had a monster season gaining 95 points in 2016/17 - Lille won the title with just 83 points as PSG were all over the place and still finished just a point behind Lille.
Monaco won the title with a great season, Lille's win was a Fluke - That's the difference.
@@AnoxBeast Kaiserslautern was in dire need of promotion, as they were in high risk of going bankrupt had they stayed in the 3. Liga.
Sad too see. Saint Etienne are a great club with great fans. Hope they can get things right again.
What a brilliant club with brilliant fans.I live approx-2km away from Hampden park Glasgow and my team is Celtic Fc.When i was a schoolboy in 1976 my father took me to the 'then' European cup final.To see and HEAR 50-60,000 St Etienne fans singing in the big packed North enclosure +half of each end behind the goal was something that i will never forget.The noise,and all singing in unison was heard km's away+the 'allez les verts' song was Incredible+I remember St Etienne hitting the post brilliant+sad at the same time (those Square posts) IF they were round the ball might've went in (i wish it did') spot the German was what a commentator said when watching the highlights later...Since then i have been a part-time St Etienne fan & its the only European cup final not on RUclips.I would love to see that game again and Unlucky St Etienne 'on that night'. & i wish your team could be back where it belongs! at the top of French football !!!.
Merci l'ami... cette défaite imméritée a été une immense souffrance pour nous presque 50 après on a toujours pas digéré... et personnellement en tant que catholique et pro IRA dans mon adolescence je suis fan du celtic depuis longtemps...en 1968 mon père avait vu jouer le celtic a saint Etienne en coupe d'Europe Les fans du celtic étaient super et très sympathiques ... allez les verts !🇲🇫🏴
The video I've been secretly waiting for since a long time! Amazing!
You could say that they're playing like Asse
This is gold
One dissing name for ASSE is "Association Sportive Sans Espoir"- Hopeless Sporting Association.
I've witnessed their fans home and away live. Absolutely brilliant fans, probably the best I've ever witnessed at old Trafford
I was at that game and they were brilliant
I was among the Saint Etienne Fans at old trafford, and must say this game we really gave it all. We lost, it was expected, but we at least wanted to give a lasting impression ;)
I’ve only had bad experiences with them, I went to saint etienne a few years ago for a European match. My friend was threatened to be killed in their hotel by a fan, luckily she didn’t
And what i witnessed/heard at the European cup final at Hampden park 1976 was the loudest section of fans that ive ever heard Allez les Verts
Both Saint-Éttiene and Girondins will have a hard time bouncing back at the first attempt, as Ligue 2 will only have two promotion places in the 2022-23 season due to Ligue 1's reduction to 18 teams for the 2023-24 season (which will have four teams relegated).
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We’ll Bordeaux won’t be in ligue 1 for a while.. they just got sent to the 3rd tier of French football
That's crazy to have 4 teams getting relegated in an 18-team league! 😳 They need to scrap Coupe de Ligue instead of reducing league games.
@@aidygooner The 4 relegations will only happen for the 2022-23 season (the last one with 20 teams), the 2023-24 season with 18 teams will revert back to the 2 relegations with a relegation play-off spot.
The knock-off effect of Ligue 1's reduction will be worse for the lower leagues below Ligue 2, as they'll have between 5 and 6 relegations per league.
@@aidygooner Btw, the Coupe the la Ligue has already been scrapped, with the 2019-20 edition being the last one ever. I can see other major leagues following suit in the coming years with the impending UCL reforms.
That pitch invasion on Sunday was the most insane I’ve ever seen, but I have a hard time deciding whether it was actually worse than the ADO Den Haag hooligans who were throwing flares into the section of Excelsior fans after their match. Both are absolutely ridiculous, regardless.
Football hooligans are part of a firm who arrange to fight other firms in secluded areas, I'd say these fans are more ultras or idiots
@Influencer der kein Mensch mehr ist [11] Are FC Zurich really more popular than Grasshoppers?
ADO Den Haag are notorious in Holland for having a crazy fan base which is much better than their team on the pitch 😂
Wake up babe, HITC Sevens uploaded a new video
As a Liverpool fan, St. Etienne in European Cup QF second leg in 1977 was probably the greatest night at Anfield in Europe. And yes that includes Barcelona in 2019 semi.
David Fairclough’s winner was the start of our greatest period in LFC history.
As someone wrote before me, I think the only, truly positive aspect of going back to the second tier for clubs like Saint-Etienne and Bordeaux is the growing reputation of Ligue 2 itself.
Just like Ligue 1, Ligue 2 has become more and more a hotbed of young talent and interesting tactical ideas, so much that it's become a fertile place for investments by clubs from the best European leagues: that could be a vital source of income for these "fallen giants".
As an example, Toulouse, who finished at the bottom of Ligue 1 in 2020, during the last summer lost four of their brightest talents to top-tier clubs (Kelvin Amian and Janis Antiste to Spezia, in Serie A; Kouadio Koné to Borussia M'Gladbach and Amine Adli to Bayer Leverkusen, in Bundesliga). Still, thanks the amount of money they could reinvest from these sales and the number of promising players they still held on to, they've just managed to win the league and return to the top-flight.
To be honest, both Saint-Etienne and Bordeaux have still some good talents in their hands, and if they can re-discover the magic they once had, I think they can pull a Toulouse and set themselves for stability and success back again quite quickly. If not, they could end up like Hamburg (former German icons) and become stuck in a limbo that might cause even more damage.
I believe this risk is still worth-taking, but the question is: are the respective boards really willing to take it?
Ki-Jana Hoever shirt: exists
HITC Sevens: yay new stock image
Excellent video as ever. I'd like a video on the trials at FC Dallas, a club that has produced multiple notable players in its academy (Weston McKennie and Chris Richards among them), yet fail to do anything of significance in MLS. If there was ever a club that perplexed MLS fans, it's probably this one.
The story of the Dallas Tornado world tour is pretty funny too, if you've never read that. Not a video idea per se, I just thought you might enjoy a book recommendation.
I suggested a what on earth video for Saint Etienne video a few weeks back. Thanks for this and keep up the good work!
People may disagree but I believe that ligue 2 is an absolutely incredible second division. People slate ligue 1, which I believe is unfair but ligue 2 in my opinion is the 3rd best second division behind 2.bundesliga and the championship. Massive clubs who get a lot of fans in their stadiums week in week out . Class league
Ligue 1 is itself classless
Being an Arsenal fan, I felt like a scout watching second division French games back then.
@@SauravStatingFacts arab on commenting on the league class of a European league especially a top 5 league 😂😂😂
People talk shit about Ligue 1 but yet their teams poach players from the league all the time 🤷🏽♂️ make it make sense
@@Micfri300 a italian talking about big leagues when your league hasn't won anything important continental title in years even the bundesliga has won more in the last years
I really hope we ll make it back to the first tier soon, ALLEZ LES VERTS
Thanks man !
Back in my younger days, I wanted to have a team to follow in all the big leagues and I started following St.-Etienne. It has been uphill for a number of years. First, the Lyon domination and later the major struggles in the league ending with the relegation last season. This season isn't looking stellar either. The club could do with a new ownership. Should be an interesting club to run with it's major fan base and historic achievements, you would think.
I really adored this team when Arsenal were linked to their best trio back then, Gomis, Matuidi and Dabo, to this day I still wanted that trio. I also remember asking my French teacher about the city and he told me, it was a sh*thole industrial city.
they could clinched UCL spot if Ivan Hasek didn't had stinky 2nd half at 06/07, or if Roussey could convinced Feindouno to stay
Most folks left Saint-Etienne to go work elsewhere, notably Lyon.
Funny enough, when ASSE was at the top of ligue 1, football was kinda the only thing Saint-Etienne was doing better than Lyon.
They were like, you have the money and the economical growth, but you won't have football, poetic isn't it?
@@SkyDread Pas du tout, beaucoup de gens vont travailler à Lyon mais beaucoup de Lyonnais vont travailler et étudier à Saint-Étienne aussi, il serait temps d'arrêter de raconter n'importe quoi
As a Saint-Étienne fan, all I can say is that no one is willing to work for the badge, play for the badge or defend our honour. From the owners to the coaching board to the players, nobody has had the passion and the willingness to defend the club's honour; the owners just want profit, the coaches and players better opportunities elsewhere. As such none of them pour their heart into the club like the fans do. It's been the case since Galtier's (or Gasset's) departure and Loïc Perrin's retirement. The club will never quite be the same again, but one thing that is for sure is that the passion will never change for the Stéphanois. Allez les Verts from Hong Kong 💚💚
Is Denis bouanga good?
@@grant8340 he's very skilled technically but is very poor in finishing. And he always plays like he's just looking forward to playing for a better club.
Hamouma at the very least and Khazri???
Hey Alfie, could you do a vid on FC Dinamo Bucharest, my local team. As 18-time Romanian champions, 13-time Romanian cup winners, and 1st time champions league semi-finalists among Romanian clubs, Dinamo is Romania's 2nd most successful club side, and yet we are suffering an unprecedented plight. we have just suffered the first relegation of our 74-year history. Was wondering if you could take a look into what on earth is going on at Dinamo (with or without the WOEIGO title)
Edit: In terms of English football, this is like Arsenal or Liverpool being relegated from the Prem. For Romania, this is hardly a first. It's happened to Universitatea Craiova, a provincial team who now have 2 teams with the same name in the top flight. It's happened to Rapid Bucharest, Romania's 3rd most successful team, who had to restart from the 4th tier, much like Rangers. And there is also a trend of new teams pumping money into the club, winning the league, playing maybe 5 mins of UCL football, and basically going bust within a few years. Oțelul Galați, Unirea Urziceni, and Astra Giurgiu are examples of this over the last 10-15 years. The latter famously got past West Ham in a Europa League qualifier, and now they've suffered back-to-back relegations.
I would also like Alfie to make a video about Dinamo, but I don't think I would be able to watch it. Aside from that 2016-17 season, when there was a small chance for us to win the title, everything has been going wrong for the past 10-15 years.
With Dinamo being relegated they lose their titles as well IIRC because Badea had a clause inserted when he sold the club that if Dinamo ever got relegated the trophies would be transferred over to CS FC Dinamo, a team in 4th tier. Dark times..
@@youoweme1937 that's another thing that foreign viewers may be unfamiliar with. In Romania, buying a club does not mean buying the club's trophies and achievements up to that point, they are separate. Same with the club's badge. This is why Nicolae Badea (former owner of Dinamo, who are known as FC Dinamo 1948) now owns ACS FC Dinamo in the 4th tier of Romanian football and claims the club's badge and trophies. FC Dinamo 1948, the real team who got relegated to the second tier for the first time ever, still claim the club's badge and trophy cabinet. This could lead to a lawsuit, which would be difficult for DDB, Dinamo's supporters group, to handle. Over the past few years, DDB memberships and donations have kept the club from going bust in the last few years, going as far as paying players' wages and contributing to the club's transfer budget. A far cry from the days of Badea, specifically from 2007, when FC Dinamo 1948 last won the title and was also generating revenue from UCL and UEL games regularly.
Edit: This is another video idea: Romanian sides constantly underperform in Europe and have been doing so for the last 10 years or so. Aside from Steaua's (now known as FCSB) UEL run that ended in a narrow 3-2 aggregate defeat to a Chelsea team featuring the likes of Eden Hazard and Fernando Torres, we haven't had any great European runs recently. As teams keep losing to smaller opponents, Romania's country coefficient also plummets, meaning Romanian teams have to beat even more teams if they want to make it into the group stage of a European tournament (which is almost always the Conference League nowadays)
Problema e ca termenul de "blat" nu se traduce bine in engleza si asta ar insemna o istorie incompleta a militienilor.
Thanks Alfie, I have trouble sleeping and your videos have helped immensely to get me to doze off. I think of them as soccer bedtime stories! Your videos are very relaxing. My favorite might be the one on Darlington FC or the video on John Delaney and the Irish FA. Keep it up!
What is going on with 🇹🇷 Bursaspor?
Twelve years after their maiden Süper Lig title (2009-2010), Bursaspor was relegated to TFF 2nd League, that said, the third tier of Turkish football.
Since I'm not Turkish nor I speak/read that language: What leaded Bursaspor to experience such a slow but steady decline as a club in 12 years?
For the record, set aside Trabzonspor with its dominance in Turkish football in the 70s and early 80s plus their recent title, Bursaspor is the other lone club not based in Istanbul which has won the league title in Turkey.
Excellent video as always.
Even better dig at Thatcher and her Ilk.
Do what on earth is going on at CAF
(the Algeria Cameroon arbitration scandal, the champions league final that was played in Wydad casa home stadium, Ghana Vs South Africa imaginary penalty)
I was wondering, could you do a video on the victors of the relegation Playoff Auxerre? They went from playing UCL football in 2010 to playing second division football in 2012.
Saint Etienne are one of my favourite respective French clubs daily and ever in this world and other planets but to see this one of real big clubs to be relegated several times would easily make me to be shocked and totally stunned by their latest relegation when I did watch their standing in the French Ligue 1 table!!!Honestly,I have been watching several of their respective matches and was depressed with some of their horror shows and were relegated after losing on penalties by Auxerre in the "Relegation Playoff Match" and their relegation is through the only reason,diabolical management over the last 10 years,good friends!!!I must be watching their French League 2's respective matches when the next season would start and am fully hoping for their promotion in the first attempt with a reason but they must have a good management and their signings must valuable ones,good friends!!!LONG LIVE SAINT ETIENNE!!!🙏
Thanks for tour Support ALV
A video about the success story since Carol Shanahan took over Port Vale considering we just won the playoff final.
Day 8 - The Fall and Rise of FK Velež Mostar
From a Club that has beaten Borussia Dortmund, Twente, Derby County and many others to a club that was forced from their own stadium, reduced to nothing during the Bosnian War, becoming a mediocre top-level team in the 00s to nearly being forced into folding in 2016 to its amazing rise back to the top-level football which culminated in return to Europe after 33 years which has seen elimination of Coleraine before a suprising win over AEK Athens before exiting 3rd Round against Elfsborg IF and recently continuing in the Cup win this season which has ensured another European summer next season
please do more of these types of videos im loving them
It is very sad to see Saint-Etienne relegated but they will be back.
I've been waiting for this 💯
Ligue 1 is in massive trouble with St. Etienne and Bordeaux going down in the same season - two massive clubs!
nah, I think Bordeaux decline is worse than St Etienne. From the club that broke Lyon Ligue 1 monopoly in 2009 to being last in the recently concluded Ligue 1 season.
Mon dieu.
saint etienne decline is worse
As a Saint etienne fan all I can say is
Pain and suffering, pain and suffering is what its happening
Great video as usual! Could you do a video on the danish football club Esbjerg fB or shortened EfB, a club who a couple a years got bronze in the Danish Superliga to now have recently relegated to 2. Division (our 3. Division in Danmark). Heck they even qualified for the Europa League by beating Saint Etienne in the play-off round back in 2013-14. Its a great fall from grace, over a short period.
Terrific club and history - I miss seeing them in the top tier. Unfortunately things not turning around in Ligue 2.
Great video!
What always puzzles me is the amount of violence you are allowed to do when wearing a football jersey.
Throw a brick at someone while wearing a jersey: at best a fine and stadium ban.
Throw a brick at someone while not wearing a football jersey: Attempted homocide? Jail time?
With this difference it just feels like football offers an open invite to violence inclined people. Maybe we should try and stop seeing football violence as a seperate thing and just judge it for what it is.
Day 34: Considering that the last player who played in the miracle of Bern died about 6 months ago, I would really like to see a video about the whole story between Germany and Hungary, especially because it meant so much to at least the German population
Comments section:
" Can you do a video detailing at length some obscure Romanian 2nd tier team nobody has ever heard of because reasons"
The weird thing here is that we would watch it
@@semipro2810 100%
@@semipro2810 yep agreed lol, it just always makes me chuckle how random the suggestions are , like the guy who's still asking for an Indonesian all time best XI video ha ha.
Must admit im not a huge follower of ligue 1 but sad to see what is happening to historically big clubs in that league.. first bordeaux and now saint ettiene.
I love that Arm wrestle with a Nuclear bomb comparison
Great video, I admit I started following Saint-Etienne because I loved the band so much lol
The band were named after the football team by myself Phil minett and Bob Stanley one evening in a pub off Baker street 1987...
@@Tigerland1962 whoa that's cool! why did you name it that?
Just think they were playing Man United in the Europa League only 5 years ago.
Their fans was class
I listened to En Vert (a parody of Stromae’s song L’Enfer about Saint-Étienne’s crisis) right before watching this
its so important for us to know what goes on with a French football Club. Thank you for placing this on YT
thanks. great video.
Very good documentary. Having half of my family from there but being born in Lyon, I feel very sad about there downfall.
It feels weird to have your historical rival sink like this somehow.
I 100% confirm that the city breaths football.
Back in the days, my dad was playing soccer with the teachers at school, if the game was not over, the teachers would insist on finishing the game instead of going back to the classroom to study!
The "derby" (Lyon - Saint-Etienne) is (was) always a very exiting event (won't happen any time soon sadly).
By the way, the way you pronounce Saint-Etienne is kinda weird and cute at the same time.
I just discover your channel, if you like to cover French Ligue 1 club, Olympique Lyonnais is quite an epic one to cover. Or even the "derby" OL-ASSE throughout the years could be a good continuity of that one.
Cheers
Love the pic outside Central Station in Glasgow, 1976 at 6m 40secs.
Hi HITC SEVENS, i am a fan from Brasil and i love your videos. I was wondering if you could do a Frankfurt based video telling their history and the recent sucess of the club. Thank you :)
As of today, the club is 20th in the 2nd div. Money wise, the club is so fragile that a relegation in 3rd div would mean nohing less than the club's death, going back to the amateur status as an administrative relegation in 4th div is inevitable in the case of another relegation.
Today a whole city is sad, because football is the only thing we've got here. We thought we had seen the biggest failure of the club, but it's still happening.
Nobody is surprised anymore, yet many of us are crying the death of our club.
All of this because of the ingerence of our presidents, two rich af individuals floating above the shithole my city became. One is still trying to manage the club, the other one is chilling in Dubai since 3 years now. But don't worry ! Everyone will remember them motherfuckers as the two clowns who managed to kill the biggest historic French club.
To some “plucky” British RUclipsr the league titles PSG gain are hollow but to players like Kimpembe who has been at PSG since he was 13 years old, or to the old PSG fans who watched their team go from watching a great team in the 90’s to watching their team flirt with relegation. This title means something, but of course a PLUCKY RUclipsr from Britain wouldnt know that
Alfie, you recently talked about doing a positive story .........how about nottingham forest???? Bottom of the table, worst start in 108 years to promotion and loudest atmosphere in new Wembley history?
Video Request-What On Earth Is Going On At Hamburger SV?
Can you do a video on Vitória FC ( Vitória de Setúbal)?
I know it isn’t exclusive to France, but with the mess at the UCL Final and now this pitch invasion at St. Etienne, I hope this sparks some changes in how these stadiums deal with security.
I get that the stewards probably aren’t paid enough to throw themselves in front of literal mobs to stop these people, but this sort of thing can’t keep happening when players are getting attacked and hurt. It’s such stupid behavior.
Can you make a video about 7 of ur best videos?
"What an earth is going on at Dinamo Bucharest" just relegated for the first time in history
9:32 Cheers, Alfie.
hitc sevesns thank you i will make this my fm23 save
It's sad as at Etienne are probably the best club in French football history and to see it ruined is bad
they had passport scandal at early 00s...
Now we’re approaching the period of transfer madness, you should do a video doing either the best free transfer each Premier League team could make or maybe a video where you go over 7 players who aren’t linked to certain club buy would actually fit there and/or would be a good transfer
Maybe something you can do with all the up and coming internationals in mind, best 11 players who play different roles for country to club football
As a Juventus fan, I would love to see what on earth is going on in Turin!
Great video. May I ask if you might make a vídeo about what is going on in southamerican club Alianza Lima. They are one of the two biggest clubs in Peru; yet they have not won a single game in the Copa Libertadores in 27 games. They had also avoid relegation by TAS in 2020, so I think it would be an interesting topic...
Ligue 1 this season is absolute madness. PSG reclaiming the throne; Marseille and Monaco resurgence; surprises like Rennes, Nice, Strasbourg and Nantes finishing top-table places; Lyon and Lille slumps; ultimately the demise of Bordeaux and Saint-Etienne, two traditional clubs. Oh yeah also, violence everywhere.
To be fair, the previous owner sold Lille and they had to let go of many of their star players. I'm still sad about the mid-table finish, but it could be worse 😓
Nantes winning the French Cup was also surprising.
and clermont 63 with the lowest budget and coming from a rugby city, still managing to avoid relegation
and since this video it's only getting worse, they're about to be relegated in the third division... such a shame for a legendary club like Sainté
Can’t wait to see one of these on Wrexham in a few years
ASSÉ aren't the only other side with 10 titles, Marseille also have 10 just one was won before the league was considered professional
Marseille has 9 ligue 1 titles because they lose 2 for corruption
You should do A what went wrong with Sunderland at some point
Really good video, but the last statement isn't totally true: PSG have never been relegated. They've played in Ligue 2 once, when the club was founded and got up after the first season, but they never went down as far as I know. The closest they have been in recent years is in 2008/09, when they nearly avoided relegation in the last match of the season, winning 1-2 against Sochaux (who is also a club that is going through problems and scandals, like every club in France ahah)
Would be cool to do a video about world cup qualification
Must be the same Cambodian Royalty that “tried to buy” Wisla Krakow in the Polish Ekstraklasa 😂😂😂
Best German players in the premier league of all time. (Day 330)
I will not give up until the video is made or Alfie himself tells me to stop. Everyone else telling me that will be ignored.
If you don't believe my number, just go back to the previous videos. I'm at the bottom most of the time, but I'm there.
I commented the same thing to help you
Reminds me of Rust Belt cities in the United States and their football teams. Browns, Steelers, Lions, Bills, Colts, Ravens and Green Bay; these cities cling to their teams, for better or worse. I get it. I shall root for them in France.
1.2 million pounds spent?!? PSG must be frugal geniuses
Don't take a drink every time Alfie says St Etienne.
You should make a video about the relegation of Genoa CFC in Italy, maybe if we go back to the Serie A next year you could make it then, it would be more pleasant
I got them to second in the first season in FM, i really don't know how they messed it up so bad
Forgot to mention that in that 75/76 final st etienne could have won is the goal posts weree round. platini smacked a free kick from long range and hit the square post right on the corner so bounced out.. might have gone in with round posts..
Why would they be round?
@@Jamie-927 they are today, and most of them were back then too, but a few still had square ones and it threw off ASSE
High quality video
Do one for Livorno!
What's going on with the Ki-Jana Hoever Jerseys???
What about a video on Everton?
Alfie made a video about saint etienne lets go its been straight depression this year
What the earth is happening in Romania. Plz. Make a documentary about Dinamo Bucharest
None of the other French teams can compete with PSG'S millions it's that simple really and without major investment in the league it's not going to change any time soon.
Your videos on French football are generally well documented so I have a question : do you read French ?
Thanks Pierre. I wish, sadly I didn't pay much attention in school, so my French is very bad. Hopefully one day I'll fix that!
For teams who play in green. How about the disaster of Northwich Victoria. Founder members of the second division. Having abandoned the oldest ground in world football and building a new stadium about 100m from to their town rivals, Witton Albion in 1997. The new ground was demolished 6 years later. Northwich Victoria then wandered around to play home games as far away as Stafford. They now share with the aforementioned rivals. A bit of a tale. They sort of still exist.
Quitest fans I ever came across 🤣 I remember when I went to Wembley, middlesbrough v Norwich. Fans were so quiet after that game proper bizarre
Video Request-What On Earth Is Going On At Scunthorpe United?
Alfie's pronunciation of 'Geoffroy Guichard' just hits different.
Day 470: Ways to fix VAR with your suggestions
Make a video on dynamo Dresden
Still calling for the 'What on Earth is Going on at Norwich City' video :P
There are also no unrelegated teams in the Buli (Bundesliga).
Eddie Howe, Duncan Watmore, and now Ki-jana Hoever
Plays for our club middlesbrough, such a great player
I thought that Gabonese player Pierre Emerick Aubameyang boss played for Saint Etienne before,good friends!!!:-D
Saint Etienne is a really good band, you should check out their music 😉
5:22, we know what the geezer from AC/DC is doing before he joined the band 😂