I remember listening to this research presentation back at metabolic summit in Long Beach in early 2020. As a longstanding migraine sufferer, I started ketogenic right afterwards. I have not had one migraine in last 4 years! Used to get them 1-2 times per week. Game changer!
Dr. Gross, I have followed you for a number of years. I have been suffering with migraines for 20+ yrs. I have 15-20 migraines a month. I was just in the ER Monday because I went out of ketosis for a week trip to Greece. I suffered for that mistake! I am going to renew my efforts! Thank you so much for all your hard work! ❤
I haven't seen the video itself yet but this is 100% what has saved migraines I had for all my life. I used to take 2000mg ibuprofen as that was the only amount (or higher) that would put a dent in the pain.
OH yeah, that's just another 'thing' that I had before going low carb. Just feeld normal at 76 to no longer have acid reflux, arthritis, high blood pressure and sugar, maybe I forgot a few...
Hmmm 🤔 I'm a chronic migraine sufferer and have been on keto diets but definitely still had migraines. To even get into ketosis means my blood sugar dropping, which is a MAJOR trigger for me (and many).
You really should study Angela Stanton's approach. It is also based on a low-carb diet, but pays special attention to the electrolyte balance. This may be the missing piece of the puzzle when keto alone doesn't help.
To what extent are migraines caused by inflammation, and at least some kinds of keto diets are anti-inflammatory ? Is the main benefit of keto for (some) people with migraines from the ketones, or from the NOT eating inflammatory foods?
@@silencenhikes6692 well, that’s why I’m asking the question for Dr. Scher. Technically, not all keto diets are low in inflammatory foods - different people have different sensitivities to foods, and some foods (like certain fake sugars) can be very inflammatory but not knock you out of ketosis. I learned this the hard way being keto for decades but having high inflammation. It took time to find out which foods were causing the inflammation. And let’s remember that a ‘keto diet’ doesn’t exist as a set of foods - a keto diet is ANY combination foods FOR a given person that PRODUCES a ketogenic metabolism. The ‘keto’ is the effect, not the cause. The ‘cause’ is a very low carb diet of…well, any combination of foods that produces the requisite effect.
This is a great question. When starting a keto diet, we have to acknowledge there are multifactorial influences. There's what you are no longer eating, what you are eating, and the physiologic state of ketosis. And there isn't just one keto diet, so many different foods can be included or excluded. Ongoing research will hopefully help us better understand the individual contributions each aspect has and how to predict individual variability. But for now, we need to rely on the clinical experience of experts who have used ketogenic therapy.
I've suffered from cluster headache for 20 years now. I've been on low or very low carb for the past 4 years now and it didn't seem to help much. Last December I've had my worst episodes. I will stay low carb for my overall health, which has improved indeed. Would like to hear from others as well. Not a lot of attention for us clusterheads in these videos...
There isn't any research that we are aware of. There are anecdotal reports online of ketosis both helping RLS and making it worse. Electrolyte supplementation and hydration are likely keto to minimize any worsening. But there is much more to be learned.
Thank you for taking the time. That’s what I saw, a mixed bag. I do suspect tho, given it feels like a neuropathy, that ketosis could work. I small pilot trial would be nice. Thanks again
Thanks for sharing this information! Do you know if any researchers are looking into the possibility of metabolic therapies for visual snow syndrome? I’ve been living with this migraine-adjacent condition for about 3 years- it’s unfortunately quite disabling and there are essentially no effective treatments. One medication sometimes used for it is lamotrigine, an anti-seizure medication prescribed for epilepsy, I wonder if keto could be worth considering especially given the lack of treatment options…
Great interview! I agree with Dr. Gross’ ending sentiment about not letting perfect get in the way of good. It’s hard to do it right 100% of the time (especially when you’re just starting out), but starting with an 80% effort is respectable. Who knows? Maybe one day you’ll be at 100%.
As a migraine sufferer, I was curious about this video. I have great respect for Metabolic Mind and Dr. Bret Scher, but I was rather disappointed in this interview. What this woman is really doing is selling a product. I found her presentation scattered and hard to follow, despite Dr. Scher trying to bring her back around. I am wary of her product which contains stevia and xanthan gum - which is not good for our gut microbiome, from all I have read. I would like to hear about real studies about the effect of a ketogenic diet on migraines. Thank you.
Sorry you didn't find the interview helpful. Here's a guide that may be more along the lines of what you're looking for. www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/migraines-cluster-headaches
@@metabolicmind Thank you for this link. I do hope there will be additional studies. What keto has done for many with mental illness is one of the most hopeful bits of news in years. Thanks to all who study this, and for these excellent videos by Dr. Scher.
Great interview! I found the interview highly informative, measured, refreshingly genuine, and easy to follow. I forwarded a link to a family member who suffers from chronic migraines. The info was well received and appreciated. It appears the interviewee has applied her years of education, research, and experience into a new commercial product that may actually help some migraine sufferers. Her affiliation with the formulation and development of the product has been disclosed. It is quite reasonable and normal for people to be compensated for applying their years of education, knowledge, and research hours into a potentially helpful commercial product. That is part of what scientific researchers do. People can make an informed choice on whether they wish to try the product or not. It appears to come with no promises of efficacy. Time, experience, and feedback will tell if it is a beneficial product for some or all migraine sufferers.
Surely many of those who bad mouth metabolic therapy interventions must be waking up to their validity by now? Or are people still hyper focused on a very myopic 'meat equals heart attacks' point of view? I suspect the vast majority of well meaning medical and allied health clinicians still unfortunately are. ☹
I remember listening to this research presentation back at metabolic summit in Long Beach in early 2020. As a longstanding migraine sufferer, I started ketogenic right afterwards. I have not had one migraine in last 4 years! Used to get them 1-2 times per week. Game changer!
That's wonderful! Thanks for sharing your experience.
Dr. Gross, I have followed you for a number of years. I have been suffering with migraines for 20+ yrs. I have 15-20 migraines a month. I was just in the ER Monday because I went out of ketosis for a week trip to Greece. I suffered for that mistake! I am going to renew my efforts! Thank you so much for all your hard work! ❤
Thank you, Dr Scher and Dr Gross.
I just read a book in french from a french neurologist pushing the keto diet for migraines, alzheimer, parkinsons. Dr Bernard Aranda.
An inspiring interview with Dr Gross; the story about post-treatment cookies is a keeper…! 🙏
We agree! That was a powerful example.
Thank you for sharing this information.
Hope there will be a research on GKI level in reversing all metabolic diseases. Dr Seyfried requires less than 2 GKI for cancer.
I haven't seen the video itself yet but this is 100% what has saved migraines I had for all my life. I used to take 2000mg ibuprofen as that was the only amount (or higher) that would put a dent in the pain.
OH yeah, that's just another 'thing' that I had before going low carb. Just feeld normal at 76 to no longer have acid reflux, arthritis, high blood pressure and sugar, maybe I forgot a few...
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Hmmm 🤔
I'm a chronic migraine sufferer and have been on keto diets but definitely still had migraines. To even get into ketosis means my blood sugar dropping, which is a MAJOR trigger for me (and many).
As Dr Gross mentions, ketosis is one part of her 4 step process. it may be worth checking her other boxes as well.
You really should study Angela Stanton's approach. It is also based on a low-carb diet, but pays special attention to the electrolyte balance. This may be the missing piece of the puzzle when keto alone doesn't help.
To what extent are migraines caused by inflammation, and at least some kinds of keto diets are anti-inflammatory ? Is the main benefit of keto for (some) people with migraines from the ketones, or from the NOT eating inflammatory foods?
Not only is the keto diet low on inflammatory foods but ketones themselves are anti-inflammatory
@@silencenhikes6692 well, that’s why I’m asking the question for Dr. Scher. Technically, not all keto diets are low in inflammatory foods - different people have different sensitivities to foods, and some foods (like certain fake sugars) can be very inflammatory but not knock you out of ketosis. I learned this the hard way being keto for decades but having high inflammation. It took time to find out which foods were causing the inflammation. And let’s remember that a ‘keto diet’ doesn’t exist as a set of foods - a keto diet is ANY combination foods FOR a given person that PRODUCES a ketogenic metabolism. The ‘keto’ is the effect, not the cause. The ‘cause’ is a very low carb diet of…well, any combination of foods that produces the requisite effect.
This is a great question. When starting a keto diet, we have to acknowledge there are multifactorial influences. There's what you are no longer eating, what you are eating, and the physiologic state of ketosis. And there isn't just one keto diet, so many different foods can be included or excluded. Ongoing research will hopefully help us better understand the individual contributions each aspect has and how to predict individual variability. But for now, we need to rely on the clinical experience of experts who have used ketogenic therapy.
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I wonder how keto affects cluster headaches.
Good question. There isn't much on that, but here's a guide that addresses the question. www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/migraines-cluster-headaches
I've suffered from cluster headache for 20 years now. I've been on low or very low carb for the past 4 years now and it didn't seem to help much. Last December I've had my worst episodes. I will stay low carb for my overall health, which has improved indeed.
Would like to hear from others as well. Not a lot of attention for us clusterheads in these videos...
Dr Scher, is there any preliminary information on medical ketosis as a treatment for restless leg syndrome? Thanks
There isn't any research that we are aware of. There are anecdotal reports online of ketosis both helping RLS and making it worse. Electrolyte supplementation and hydration are likely keto to minimize any worsening. But there is much more to be learned.
Thank you for taking the time. That’s what I saw, a mixed bag. I do suspect tho, given it feels like a neuropathy, that ketosis could work. I small pilot trial would be nice.
Thanks again
Eat lots of pumpkin seed and pistachios for magnesium and potassium. Have plenty of sea salt too. Electrolytes.
Thanks for sharing this information! Do you know if any researchers are looking into the possibility of metabolic therapies for visual snow syndrome? I’ve been living with this migraine-adjacent condition for about 3 years- it’s unfortunately quite disabling and there are essentially no effective treatments. One medication sometimes used for it is lamotrigine, an anti-seizure medication prescribed for epilepsy, I wonder if keto could be worth considering especially given the lack of treatment options…
Great interview! I agree with Dr. Gross’ ending sentiment about not letting perfect get in the way of good. It’s hard to do it right 100% of the time (especially when you’re just starting out), but starting with an 80% effort is respectable. Who knows? Maybe one day you’ll be at 100%.
As a migraine sufferer, I was curious about this video. I have great respect for Metabolic Mind and Dr. Bret Scher, but I was rather disappointed in this interview. What this woman is really doing is selling a product. I found her presentation scattered and hard to follow, despite Dr. Scher trying to bring her back around. I am wary of her product which contains stevia and xanthan gum - which is not good for our gut microbiome, from all I have read. I would like to hear about real studies about the effect of a ketogenic diet on migraines. Thank you.
Sorry you didn't find the interview helpful. Here's a guide that may be more along the lines of what you're looking for. www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/migraines-cluster-headaches
@@metabolicmind Thank you for this link. I do hope there will be additional studies. What keto has done for many with mental illness is one of the most hopeful bits of news in years. Thanks to all who study this, and for these excellent videos by Dr. Scher.
Great interview! I found the interview highly informative, measured, refreshingly genuine, and easy to follow. I forwarded a link to a family member who suffers from chronic migraines. The info was well received and appreciated.
It appears the interviewee has applied her years of education, research, and experience into a new commercial product that may actually help some migraine sufferers. Her affiliation with the formulation and development of the product has been disclosed. It is quite reasonable and normal for people to be compensated for applying their years of education, knowledge, and research hours into a potentially helpful commercial product. That is part of what scientific researchers do. People can make an informed choice on whether they wish to try the product or not. It appears to come with no promises of efficacy. Time, experience, and feedback will tell if it is a beneficial product for some or all migraine sufferers.
Personally I found it very insightful and useful for treating my patients.
Surely many of those who bad mouth metabolic therapy interventions must be waking up to their validity by now? Or are people still hyper focused on a very myopic 'meat equals heart attacks' point of view? I suspect the vast majority of well meaning medical and allied health clinicians still unfortunately are. ☹