@@erickborling1302 👍🏻😂😂😂 . Gust of gravity and "the problem was that the wind stopped gusting" are the nicer and most funniest excuses people can use to justify a bad landing.😀😀😀
@@sanpol4399 Do they have airspeed indicators? Airspeed is key. The pilot's excuses have more than humor value. The pilot shows their depth of knowledge or lack thereof when providing the incorrect explanation. Fact is they were pretty much always too fast or or too slow or not in directional control.
@@erickborling1302 You are 100% wright. I agree with you.👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 Of course I am on the humor side here. I am on aviation for the last 30 years. Long part of that on the great 737 family. We know exactly when someone is using an excuse for some mistake or if the situation was really tricky. 🙂 So, when the landing is not exactly as smooth as we want, the gust of gravity and " I was going to make a perfect landing, but on short final the wind stoped gusting ,turned into calm wind and ruined my planning" , will be my humor jokes from now on to justify some obvious mistakes that my colleague in my side know I surely did, or to comfort my colleague ,in the case the not so smooth landing was done by him. 😀 I used for the first time that " gust of gravity" excuse ,two days ago , at the radio model club , to justify bad landings from the airmodels people made, and all of them laugh a lot when I told about the " gust of gravity" to justify bad landings everyone knew was done only by rc pilot mistake, on that perfect and still air day. 😀😀😀
I once landed at an abandoned drive-in movie site, landed into the wind like your supposed to, but didn't notice the gentle slope towards where the movie screen was and ground effect, so I glided about 2 feet off the ground for 200 yards into some bushes and a fence.
@@My_Fair_Lady AS SOMEONE WHO HAS HAD A LANDING, AND NOT WALKED AWAY FROM IT, I CAN CONFIRM, A GOOD LANDING IS ONE YOU WALK AWAY FROM, WITH NO PAIN ( caps lock works both ways, try it someday )
Tailwind landing? I'm trying to learn as much as I can before taking lessons. Thanks for posting this, now I know exactly what I'll be doing. Except maybe worse...
its either that or you hear the cameraman laughing lol. but yeah, 12 years ago everyone put music on their videos. hell, I did it too just cause everyone else was doing it haha.
It has no fuel nor running engines, no hot components, only some Dacron that wouldn't be particularly easy to ignite. So based on this, according to the Laws of Action Cinema, it should be about a 30 foot fireball when it crashes. Unless flown by Homer Simpson, who set corn flakes and milk on fire and melted down a nuclear power plant simulator, with him flying it would be a several kiloton explosion.
Ah, gotta love that LZ at McClure... I think the old Miwuk Indian name for that area of land translates to "Maker of Whacks" or some say... "Eater of Downtubes"
Close to stall speed at high angle of attack you may get wing tip stall due to billow shift, causing the glider to turn to the opposite side of the pilot's input. So you see him clearly turning left while the glider goes right. Below a certain speed you can't turn a high performance glider anymore, you go straight, stay in the middle and flare.
Having flown a hang glider a number of times it looks to me like it was a tip stall ,and to land down wind is not the best idea, but he was o.k. And that’s what matters. He’ll know better next time. Good luck.
Yep, slow+billow shift to left=higher angle of attack on the right tip, stalling it and turning the glider to the wrong side. This has happened to me flying too slow scratching a ridge lift. Thankfully it dropped away from the mountain and I recovered after a dive.... Otherwise I'd have been screwed.
Next time, empty your bladder before you take off, and stay up there,..... never try to land when the thermals are that strong,.... you did good in those conditions :-) .... Thanks for sharing :-)
My ex girlfriend got a spiral fracture of the humerus landing like that. A real drag, considering she was a beginner and only got about a foot off the ground anyway (bunny hill).
ive been watching a lot of HG videos and reading some books trying to get me some knowledge before i sign up for a lesson and really appreciate when people are posting this kind of video to hopefully minimize the mistakes that a newbie will be making, like me. Thanks
It appears the nose got high on you as you were transitioning from the base tube to the down tubes from 37-43 seconds in. It looks like you were too slow after that almost at a stall for a large part of the final and at the mercy of any unstable air. imho
Thats what I was thinking!! This dude needs to be in a Fun190 or something similar! Much more experience needed. Best of Luck to the pilot for his Life in the future!
Fredrik Hoffmann is it possible that he was just having a bad day? I was just wondering. This is something I really hope to take up soon... While I have the time and the money.
@@shirazenema3228 Because I have hangglided since 1989. Sorry for the late answer btw! (When I see this video now I realise I may have been too hard on the guy. He had a good portion of bad luck here)
When starting my lessons, I was told that crossing the street or riding a horse is more dangerous than this amazing sport. And really, the deaths are mainly sourced from aerobatic pilots, or unfortunentally pilots that have never obtained any hours of training.
Ouch. Well, coulda been worse. Looks to me like he was hanging on the edge of a stall and hanging on the right side of the bar, maybe to avoid the gravity bush there, then when the glider didn’t respond, for some reason he centered the bar again but then the near-stalled glider dropped the right wing and he pretty much was a passenger by then.
a little to much glider there. topless are cool but higher performance is not always better. they look like a bitch to land at the best of times. never mind the launching. unless I plan on competeing ill stick with a lesser wing.
I would be like, "There's nothing wrong with that landing. I land like that all the time! Excuse me, I think I still have some beer left". lol The serious guys will avoid you after that. Works for me! Cheers!
I had a crash landing skydiving. Broke both legs, sacrum in 5 pieces, herniated q spine discs that were removed and a whole lot of other issues. That’s a good landing.
Way to much speed on your aproach??? How can you fly that low with hands on bottom bar and in gorrila. I myself like to stay in prone right till the last minute and then into gorrila and onto side bars at same time, then solely consentrate on the landing. Glade you did not get hurt. I have one well deformed wrist from a bad landing I had in 1978, but then I to was lucky as I came down 150 foot with failed keel on glider, Mear uk. Still great to watch, poeple will learn from it. Pete (the wrist)
Não achei que tenha sido erro do piloto não. Vôo de planador RC e as vezes a gente quer pousar, mas as condições ÓTIMAS PRA VÔO não deixam e o planador simplesmente não desce !! Ele poderia ter esticado mais o pouso e ter pousado onde desse.
Thanks for having the balls to put yourself out there. I wish I had started hang gliding back in the 60's when we were trying to figure out how to jump off our rooftops!
Shame , I have seen lots of worse landings than that and they have got off without danages, Cheers for showing. i supose some we win and some we lose, Pete
"Any landing you can walk away from is a good landing." This landing was a bit abrupt, but, if you've actually watched hang gliders land & T/O very much, you see this kind of landing more often than smooth ones. Gusts, the slow response to "control inputs" & the primitive means of control all make it tough to look good all the time.
At or above the hill's slope line you get a steady up-draft....below you get a steady diet of tumbling (blended) drafts....hence the tumble. What a terrible place to hang-glide. (wheelchair bait) We have a hill next to (no hills)....flat field________________________________easy peasey.
better to keep the legs crossed, swinging the legs makes the glider less predictable in flight, more airspeed keep that bar in...and a hard flare, just looked like a tentative attempt at landing stalled one wing...i'll stay in my beginners glider for a while yet
Man people are harsh here. How many of us haven't messed up a tricky landing in un ideal lz's or had to scratch in XC. Gotta land into the wind and sometimes that direction is a downward slope! Very thermally. It happens. Anyone who thinks they are getting into hg and not have a few of these probably needs to reconsider.
With skill like your WHAT are you doing flying a Topless?.. Stay prone till you get to final and don't transition till your less than 50 ft off the deck...
Way too slow on approach. You need speed on all the way till you flare. Otherwise you have no energy to flare with. Approach with speed gradually Let It come to trim. Flare hard and hold it out. If you flare a little early and you climb out a bit, holding it out will allow you to parachute down without beaking it
Cmon mate!!,, You landed on your feet,,, what else did you want?!!! like others here have commented - even the best pilots make mistakes. Some might say you should've Flared later, some might say the approach was wrong. What I say is that the Pilot in the Air does what seems right at that time, no one wants to crash. So all the Best with your Efforts and May the Good Lord bless you with wonderful thermals and great soaring!!
Looks like a thermal was developing right about the time he decided to land. You see as he turns base and final that his turns were coordinated therefore not a rookie. The double surface glider is not a beginners bird. As he's descending to the deck he appears to gain altitude (could be the filming angle or could be thermal activity). My bet is thermal -- especially when you see the wing lift suddenly during flare. He got away without broken glider parts or injury.
Where to begin, Coming in way too slow, ever head about wind gradient and how that can slam you? Were you flying and texting at the same time, you sure didn't look focused. Take offs and landings are thw two most important parts of the flight, who gives a flying sock what you do in between, but get the techique down for agressive take offs and landings, learn how to flare like your life depends on it, and you can save many a wrong decissions.
Right at the end, it was just a sudden gust of gravity.
😂😂😂 gust of gravity . 😀😀
The trubble is when the wind STOPs gusting.
@@erickborling1302 👍🏻😂😂😂 .
Gust of gravity and "the problem was that the wind stopped gusting" are the nicer and most funniest excuses people can use to justify a bad landing.😀😀😀
@@sanpol4399 Do they have airspeed indicators? Airspeed is key. The pilot's excuses have more than humor value. The pilot shows their depth of knowledge or lack thereof when providing the incorrect explanation. Fact is they were pretty much always too fast or or too slow or not in directional control.
@@erickborling1302 You are 100% wright. I agree with you.👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Of course I am on the humor side here.
I am on aviation for the last 30 years. Long part of that on the great 737 family. We know exactly when someone is using an excuse for some mistake or if the situation was really tricky. 🙂
So, when the landing is not exactly as smooth as we want, the gust of gravity and " I was going to make a perfect landing, but on short final the wind stoped gusting ,turned into calm wind and ruined my planning" , will be my humor jokes from now on to justify some obvious mistakes that my colleague in my side know I surely did, or to comfort my colleague ,in the case the not so smooth landing was done by him. 😀
I used for the first time that " gust of gravity" excuse ,two days ago , at the radio model club , to justify bad landings from the airmodels people made, and all of them laugh a lot when I told about the " gust of gravity" to justify bad landings everyone knew was done only by rc pilot mistake, on that perfect and still air day.
😀😀😀
That doesn't qualify as a crash. I doubt he popped a sprog! I've fallen harden than that coming out of a bar on a Friday night.
(What's a "sprog"?)
Maybe you shouldn't drink so much. =)
Sadly I'm reading this on A Friday night
and the 6 other nights too
@@azmike3572 the wing tip rod that helps recover from steep dives
Lose the music ......
Where's gravity when you really need it?! :-)
😂🤣
Came in clutch at the end there
At the end.
underrated comment ! 😁🤣🤣
downwind downhill? Nice :)
He needs a little more training if he's going to take that into combat, like the wing says it's made for.
K
wow. hang-glider trooper. is that even a thing ?? :O
@@kanrup5199 Get hang gliders with sling wings so you can go faster into battle.
I once landed at an abandoned drive-in movie site, landed into the wind like your supposed to, but didn't notice the gentle slope towards where the movie screen was and ground effect, so I glided about 2 feet off the ground for 200 yards into some bushes and a fence.
any landing you can walk away from is a good landing
not just good, but good enough
Well said, Chuck
Any landing you can fly the plane again afterwards is a GREAT landing!
@@My_Fair_Lady AS SOMEONE WHO HAS HAD A LANDING, AND NOT WALKED AWAY FROM IT, I CAN CONFIRM, A GOOD LANDING IS ONE YOU WALK AWAY FROM, WITH NO PAIN ( caps lock works both ways, try it someday )
@@My_Fair_Lady you crashed lol xD. I've had about two hundred flights till date and never had to be carried. Go on, keep preaching! Lol
those gliders like to fly a lot , specially downhill. :-)
Does he have restless leg syndrome!?
+lulem400 I have that too in my middle leg.
Great question! 😄😆
Lol, five years later
Pilot error? I’m surprised someone didn’t say, “Trump’s Fault.”
I know it ..
You know it ..
The Chain-na Vy-rus.
”No one knows more about flying than I do, no one”.
”No one knew how hard it was to fly...”
Trump's not smart enough to have anything do with aviation..
@@elliotw5918
Have you sought professional help for your TDS? Regardless, best of luck ya goofy bastard.
@@elliotw5918 Trump flies in Air Force One, Marine One, and owns his own 757 with Rolls Royce Engines. WTF do you do?
Gravity: not just a good idea but the law!
I would never ride the downtubes that high. Fly it to the ground, then before flair go to the downtubes. - former HGA instructor.
@James Cricket - They are tubes that go up.
Gotta love that hardware-assisted braking!
Any landing you can walk away from is a good one :)
Orange Kayak with limitations....
Maybe during WWI
no it's not
and any landing where you walk away and no damage was caused is a great one.
Dumbest saying in all of aviation.
I thought someone died or something. Chill out, guys.
The good thing about a landing like that is, it's great when it ends. Know what I mean? ;-)
But if there was no danger and crash risk wouldn't it have been cool basically to experience hovering.
What goes up must come down. There's no guarantee how though.. Glad the pilot was okay.
Tailwind landing? I'm trying to learn as much as I can before taking lessons. Thanks for posting this, now I know exactly what I'll be doing. Except maybe worse...
When your music bed choice fails as much as your landing...
its either that or you hear the cameraman laughing lol. but yeah, 12 years ago everyone put music on their videos. hell, I did it too just cause everyone else was doing it haha.
yeah shh it was 2008
Algorithm kicking in I see
that bloody music , couldn't watch it
0:52 he's thinking "this will be easy"
0:57 "oh shit"
The most important thing ist: It did't explode.
It has no fuel nor running engines, no hot components, only some Dacron that wouldn't be particularly easy to ignite. So based on this, according to the Laws of Action Cinema, it should be about a 30 foot fireball when it crashes. Unless flown by Homer Simpson, who set corn flakes and milk on fire and melted down a nuclear power plant simulator, with him flying it would be a several kiloton explosion.
The old bird just didn't wanna come down boy!
Ah, gotta love that LZ at McClure... I think the old Miwuk Indian name for that area of land translates to "Maker of Whacks" or some say... "Eater of Downtubes"
Ah yes, near white man falls..
Close to stall speed at high angle of attack you may get wing tip stall due to billow shift, causing the glider to turn to the opposite side of the pilot's input. So you see him clearly turning left while the glider goes right. Below a certain speed you can't turn a high performance glider anymore, you go straight, stay in the middle and flare.
So close to a near perfect landing, then suddenly, DOOOOOHHH!!!
Having flown a hang glider a number of times it looks to me like it was a tip stall ,and to land down wind is not the best idea, but he was o.k. And that’s what matters. He’ll know better next time. Good luck.
Yep, slow+billow shift to left=higher angle of attack on the right tip, stalling it and turning the glider to the wrong side. This has happened to me flying too slow scratching a ridge lift. Thankfully it dropped away from the mountain and I recovered after a dive.... Otherwise I'd have been screwed.
It wasn't terrible. Every beginner will go through this before learning to land perfectly.
Next time, empty your bladder before you take off, and stay up there,..... never try to land when the thermals are that strong,.... you did good in those conditions :-) .... Thanks for sharing :-)
Damn, he looked good at fist but then he just ate it.
First off, you forgot to lower your landing gear. Oh wait. Now I see.
My guess is that dude stole the glider and that was his very first, and most likely last, flight.
Landing downwind is always a good time.
Downwind downslope....
My ex girlfriend got a spiral fracture of the humerus landing like that. A real drag, considering she was a beginner and only got about a foot off the ground anyway (bunny hill).
👎 for the ridiculously loud audio in the video.
there is no gravity, the earth just sucks.
hahahahaha...I could feel your desperation! You were probably thinking "Damn performance wing". It could be worse for sure!
What Pilot Error? That's sort of how it works. Olympic Judges would have given him a 7.5. Pilot Error is only a factor in Coroner Inquests.
ive been watching a lot of HG videos and reading some books trying to get me some knowledge before i sign up for a lesson and really appreciate when people are posting this kind of video to hopefully minimize the mistakes that a newbie will be making, like me. Thanks
Did you learn it? I started the same way: videos, forums, sites, books then practice
интересно что с тобой сейчас
That was 100% pilot error.
It appears the nose got high on you as you were transitioning from the base tube to the down tubes from 37-43 seconds in. It looks like you were too slow after that almost at a stall for a large part of the final and at the mercy of any unstable air. imho
Stupid music....seriously
What is this guy doing flying a high performance glider ???
Thats what I was thinking!! This dude needs to be in a Fun190 or something similar!
Much more experience needed.
Best of Luck to the pilot for his Life in the future!
Fredrik Hoffmann is it possible that he was just having a bad day? I was just wondering. This is something I really hope to take up soon... While I have the time and the money.
that is not a bad day. that is incompetence. Check out how it should be done on here. It should be gracious !
How the fuck would you know Fredrik?
@@shirazenema3228 Because I have hangglided since 1989. Sorry for the late answer btw! (When I see this video now I realise I may have been too hard on the guy. He had a good portion of bad luck here)
disliked for music
When starting my lessons, I was told that crossing the street or riding a horse is more dangerous than this amazing sport. And really, the deaths are mainly sourced from aerobatic pilots, or unfortunentally pilots that have never obtained any hours of training.
Or unskilled pilots flying topless gliders and screwing up landings
Ouch. Well, coulda been worse. Looks to me like he was hanging on the edge of a stall and hanging on the right side of the bar, maybe to avoid the gravity bush there, then when the glider didn’t respond, for some reason he centered the bar again but then the near-stalled glider dropped the right wing and he pretty much was a passenger by then.
I remember when I was first learning to hang glide.....
a little to much glider there. topless are cool but higher performance is not always better. they look like a bitch to land at the best of times. never mind the launching.
unless I plan on competeing ill stick with a lesser wing.
I would be like, "There's nothing wrong with that landing. I land like that all the time! Excuse me, I think I still have some beer left". lol The serious guys will avoid you after that. Works for me! Cheers!
He walked away from a less than elegant landing. No problem.
Aua, muss man nicht kommentieren!
You need leg extensions!
Trying to land down-slope. The glider just wants to fly forever. Beentheredonethat ;)
Some unplanned proximity flight
I had a crash landing skydiving. Broke both legs, sacrum in 5 pieces, herniated q spine discs that were removed and a whole lot of other issues. That’s a good landing.
Looks like fun but then again, what do I know, never done it. I would be the one to crash hard... lol
Way to much speed on your aproach??? How can you fly that low with hands on bottom bar and in gorrila. I myself like to stay in prone right till the last minute and then into gorrila and onto side bars at same time, then solely consentrate on the landing. Glade you did not get hurt. I have one well deformed wrist from a bad landing I had in 1978, but then I to was lucky as I came down 150 foot with failed keel on glider, Mear uk. Still great to watch, poeple will learn from it. Pete (the wrist)
He lived. Thumbs up!
It's a super talent even flying straight with that model of Combat 😅
Não achei que tenha sido erro do piloto não. Vôo de planador RC e as vezes a gente quer pousar, mas as condições ÓTIMAS PRA VÔO não deixam e o planador simplesmente não desce !! Ele poderia ter esticado mais o pouso e ter pousado onde desse.
lmaoni love how thr cameraman just stands there continuing to film after the hanglider faceplanta and crashes
Thanks for having the balls to put yourself out there. I wish I had started hang gliding back in the 60's when we were trying to figure out how to jump off our rooftops!
King size sheet with kite strings.
@andyp412 As I always say, don't dis it until you try it! :D
Shame , I have seen lots of worse landings than that and they have got off without danages, Cheers for showing. i supose some we win and some we lose, Pete
When you underestimate how fast and far your glider will glide on approach. :)
Cela priprema sletanja je bila turbulentna ,dobroje kad se nisi povredio.😅
"Any landing you can walk away from is a good landing." This landing was a bit abrupt, but, if you've actually watched hang gliders land & T/O very much, you see this kind of landing more often than smooth ones. Gusts, the slow response to "control inputs" & the primitive means of control all make it tough to look good all the time.
At or above the hill's slope line you get a steady up-draft....below you get a steady diet of tumbling (blended) drafts....hence the tumble. What a terrible place to hang-glide. (wheelchair bait) We have a hill next to (no hills)....flat field________________________________easy peasey.
It's only pilot error if caught on camera
@andyp412 no flying is no't risky but driving a car is ,i fly planes sky dive hang glide but,i am afraid 2 drive my car from the Apt 2 my house!
Dont flare if you are in a turn!!! ...We tell newbies that all the time at LOOKOUT MTN FLIGHT PARK where i work. Youve got to level your wings!!
Why youtube? Why i have this in my recomendations 13 years after video release?
better to keep the legs crossed, swinging the legs makes the glider less predictable in flight, more airspeed keep that bar in...and a hard flare, just looked like a tentative attempt at landing stalled one wing...i'll stay in my beginners glider for a while yet
Man people are harsh here. How many of us haven't messed up a tricky landing in un ideal lz's or had to scratch in XC. Gotta land into the wind and sometimes that direction is a downward slope! Very thermally. It happens. Anyone who thinks they are getting into hg and not have a few of these probably needs to reconsider.
With skill like your WHAT are you doing flying a Topless?.. Stay prone till you get to final and don't transition till your less than 50 ft off the deck...
That looks like a learning experience. Glad the pilot made it. Hang glider parts can be replaced.
Way too slow on approach. You need speed on all the way till you flare. Otherwise you have no energy to flare with. Approach with speed gradually Let It come to trim. Flare hard and hold it out. If you flare a little early and you climb out a bit, holding it out will allow you to parachute down without beaking it
i fly and some times ill see guys at the hanger messing with these always wanted to try it although im sure its alot diffrent then a plane.
Krusevo makedonia
At least he didn't stall out over a cholla. That would have been a painful landing.
Ops!
My English is crap.
I am deeply sorry to the man and to those who I have offended.
I meant GUY.
lol he was doing so well! i am taking my first course this spring after watching my father fly for years.. excited!
How are you doing? :)
Update?
If all went well, you are now a veteran.
@andyp412 , agreed. I don't fly anything; however, I think driving is probably a greater risk any day. When one's time come, you know...
For me this is not a 100% Pilot error. You see strong thermal activitiy all the time. It is quite hard to land in conditions like this.
oh man I had the exact same landing for my last flight, I'm told my landing speed was too slow, I'm adjusting my CG
There's a saying; "Every take-off is optional, every landing mandatory."
better to be on the ground, wishing you were in the air, than in the air wishing you were on the ground
Try uphill landing.
Crosswinder, could almost here the "prang".
I would not transit to flair position at that height.
Trying to land on a downslope seems counter intuitive.
seen worse. ive landed as badly. bad landings you can walk away from are good teachers, just don't make it a habit.
slippery wing, pretty good save.
It was the ground effect and headwind cause the hang glider to balloon up. Should have turned base farther back.
Pilot ready to land long before the glider, so wan't still in flight mentality when the gust hit....just my guess.
Since youtube is recommending me 12y old video can I resurrect long dead meme? So... Did he died? :)
Tried too hard to muscle it at stall. Better to over-shoot unless you're going to over-shoot into an obsticle.
Cmon mate!!,, You landed on your feet,,, what else did you want?!!! like others here have commented - even the best pilots make mistakes. Some might say you should've Flared later, some might say the approach was wrong. What I say is that the Pilot in the Air does what seems right at that time, no one wants to crash. So all the Best with your Efforts and May the Good Lord bless you with wonderful thermals and great soaring!!
Looks like a thermal was developing right about the time he decided to land. You see as he turns base and final that his turns were coordinated therefore not a rookie. The double surface glider is not a beginners bird. As he's descending to the deck he appears to gain altitude (could be the filming angle or could be thermal activity). My bet is thermal -- especially when you see the wing lift suddenly during flare. He got away without broken glider parts or injury.
Where to begin, Coming in way too slow, ever head about wind gradient and how that can slam you? Were you flying and texting at the same time, you sure didn't look focused. Take offs and landings are thw two most important parts of the flight, who gives a flying sock what you do in between, but get the techique down for agressive take offs and landings, learn how to flare like your life depends on it, and you can save many a wrong decissions.