Excellent set up Levi. Make sure you have good ventilation when casting indoors, especially during burnout. I've never experienced anything nastier than a few odours and a little smoke at times, but better safe than sorry. Enjoy your new hobby safely my friend 😁
Nice set up! Exactly what I'm shooting for. So far have the kaya cast casting table and elegoo mars pro... Slowly getting there. I'm a biker tired of looking for the right rings so decided to start designing them and casting them myself. Lol.
Hey Mike, thanks for watching my video!I’ll be uploading a new video early this week where I’ll be using the set up to make my first cast so keep an eye out for that. If you have the money I would recommend getting a better metal melting furnace than the cheap one I showed in my video. Unfortunately, I broke mine messing around with it so I went ahead and got a quickmelt from the tabletop furnace company who also makes my burnout oven. Both machines are built extremely well and function beautifully. I would love to see your setup when you have everything and the parts you make with it! Again, thanks for watching!
I'm salute your new journey. I'm a graduate mechanical engineering student on the college level. I'm believe in what you are doing and I am starting to buy my equipment to one day get to your level. I subscribed and would like to get a chance to ask some questions once I reach certain levels. 👍
Thank you for your support! I wish you the best of luck on your investment casting journey! Fee free to leave a comment and I’ll get back. You can also find my email on the about page of my channel. I am considering starting a discord soon to allow more communication and to build a small community. Thanks again!
Love how passionate you are... I will be getting a similar setup soon... I'm just thrilled by the idea of making full metal objects... I want to sell them though. Cool Video as well, learnt a few things that I didn't know :-)
Hello Nitesh, thank you for watching my video. I will be casting a ring soon so keep an eye out for that. I am not sure what you mean by palak but I heat the plaster mold to 1000f before the pour and pour the aluminum at 1325f. The burnout I use is 9 hours long.
@@demirakin absolutely, I could theoretically cast any metal that melts at or below 2100-2200 F. I intend to make some jewelry with silver within the next few months.
Hello, I have one question. When you bake the mold, you put it in the casting chamber in the vacuum system, I'm not entirely clear why? A negative pressure is created in the chamber around the mold, but the metal is poured into the cavity in the mold in which there is air.Somehow it doesn't make sense to me . Next question . The red seals look like silicone rubber, it has a typical temperature resistance of up to 300C (560F), but for example the material for making a mold for casting gold Prestige UNICAST has a firing temperature of 750C (1350F).
We put the flask (mold) in the vacuum while casting to help the molten metal fill the mold fully. When then metal enters the mold, there is a pressure difference across the top surface of the metal exposed to the air and the interior of the mold. This pressure difference drives the metal into all of the fine details of the mold. As for the red seals, I believe they are silicon. They do sustain damage through use and have to occasionally be replaced. Thanks for watching.
Thanks for the reply, it sounds logical, but even so, I would assume that the fired clay or phosphate form is practically impermeable. I am going to purchase technology for precision casting of copper castings from 5 to 50g (Lost Wax) . For casting, I looked into vacuum casting, but building a cheap vacuum chamber in which I put a hot mold, suck out the air, melt the metal inductively and tip it into the mold is not exactly trivial. I will probably cast a plaster plug and test the permeability at a pressure of 1 bar (15psi) Thanks again @@Levi_Sheridan
does that furnace work better than the "toauto ( red S.Y italy)"? people comments that the red one have problems melting cooper. what about this one? I'm trying to decide between those two Ty dor the video
I’ve never used the toauto furnace so I cannot tell you which one is better. The furnace shown in this video broke when trying to reach the temperatures required for melting copper. I now use the table top furnace company metal melting furnace and highly recommend it if you can afford one.
Hi again. How has this vacuum chamber worked? (both for the mold and for pouring metal). I'm thinking of buying the same one, is it worth it or do I pay almost double for the original?
Hows everything been going? You turn a profit? Is it still really 100 to 200 a litre for wax resin?.. I feel like it should be only used for like one offs but if you know you might want to make more of say one ring then use regular uv resin and make a silicone mold off it where you can always just pour wax back in
Everything is going well! I haven’t used to equipment to make parts for sale so I haven’t made any profit. Wax resin can range anywhere from $50-250 per bottle. And yes, you are correct, if you want to go in production, the best Approach is to manufacturer a reusable silicone mold that you can inject wax into. Still, 3D printing does offer some manufacturing capabilities that injection can’t achieve so it’s a case to case manufacturing decision. Let me know if you have any other questions.
Hi Alexandra! I would highly recommend the burnout oven I have. It’s built incredibly well, is easy to use, and works without issue. I personally think it’s a terrific deal if you are interested in something that will work well straight out of the box and for a long time. I ended up breaking the furnace within a few hours of testing it. Ill link a video below I made as an update to this video where I talk about my experience with the oven and the furnace after some time working with them. Thanks for watching! ruclips.net/video/wSSSyvZ-uiA/видео.html
@@Levi_Sheridan you don't really need the wax resin. Get you a cheap flexible or weak resin that will burn away easily. Just a suggestion. It worked out well for me. But I mostly use pla now . I smooth it out with acetone first. You might need to scale up ur models because the metal might shrink
@@miclairmiclair876 I have used both PLA like filament and wax resin to make cast. For my purposes I need high precision parts and the PLA just doesn’t cut it even with acetone smoothing. For artistic applications I’m sure that PLA would work fine but for engineering applications resin is ideal. Thanks for watching!
I have the same furnace and vacuum machine but got lucky locally for the burn out oven. I saw where you said you replaced your furnace and was wondering why. I haven't had a chance to use mine yet. Thanks!
Hey Drew, thanks for watching . I replaced it because I broke it. My furnace broke when I raised the temperature to it’s advertised maximum and it broke after being held there for too long. I found the furnace to be cheap and while I was upset I essentially wasted $300 I am now very happy with my new high quality furnace and looking back, I wish I just got the nicer furnace in the first place. I made an update video where I talk a little more about this, you can check it out here ruclips.net/video/wSSSyvZ-uiA/видео.html
Levi, im curious as to how the vacuum machine pulls a vacuum on the solid cured mold while you pour? The only hole in mold, you are pouring thru…. So the solid base of mold is down. Does it pull a vacuum thru the cured investment? Puzzling to me.
The investment plaster is porous so air can be sucked through it. This is why off the shelf plaster like plaster of Paris won't work well, among other reasons. You need to use specially formulated investment casting plaster.
The metal flask that the mold is made inside of does have holes. The purpose of the vacuum is to create a force which assist in filling the empty space of the mold with the molten metal. The pressure inside of the vacuum is much lower than atmospheric pressure which creates a force which pulls the metal into the mold more effectively than otherwise.
I would like to know using the furnace in your flat does it get tooo hot in the room? Heating up to 800-1000 C might get very hot and is there any fire danger?
Hey Armask! My shop is about 90 square meters and I have had no issues with the space heating up in a significant manner while operating both of the furnaces in my setup. The insulating material used in both the furnace and the oven are wonderful. It can definitely get a little warm in the immediate area while a furnace is open but generally, I keep some fans running and a window open which brings in fresh and the room stays cool. When operating the furnace and oven there is of course some risk of fire. Both the furnace and the oven are electric and are made of fire resistant materials which dramatically lowers the risk but still there is some. I have had no fires within or near the furnace or oven yet. As long as you are carful, thoughtful, and deliberate with your setup and use of the furnace and oven, I would say the risk of fire is very low but still existent. Thanks for watching!
@@armaskdaufuzz2286 the furnaces both consume a maximum of 1500 watts which is typically the maximum power for most buildings main supply in the United States. It would depend on where you are in the world but for me the cost is not too bad.
@@armaskdaufuzz2286 1500 watts is the maximum power consumption. The power consumed over time depends on your use of the oven and the external environment.
It’s less than $4.00 United States dollars in electricity cost where I live for one burnout. Your cost would depend on where you live but it shouldn’t be significantly different. Wether or not that’s worth it is up to you.
Hey Levi, thanks for this video. I am in fact from Belgium and also want to start something with jewelry. Do you recommend this stuff as a beginner? And is the quality good? And the 3D printer is it good?
Hello! I do recommend most of the equipment in this video. Both the burnout oven and the vacuum machine work well and consistently. The metal melting furnace in this video, while it may work for some people, is not something I can personally recommend. I found mine to be low quality and mine actually broke after minimal use within advertised operating conditions. I’ve made an updated video where I recommend a different metal melting furnace that you can watch here ruclips.net/video/wSSSyvZ-uiA/видео.html I would absolutely recommend these tools for beginners. For the money I do not think you could buy better tools for the job. For the burnout oven and vacuum machine I believe they are the least expensive consumer products for their respective purposes and both work extremely well. As for the metal melting furnace I recommend in my new video, it is not the least expensive version but for the quality of the machine it is absolutely worth the extra money if you can afford it. Both the metal melting furnace and burnout oven are sold by a company that provides great customer support as well. There is also the option of building your own equipment but that requires a lot of skill and personally I do not believe most people could build similar quality machines for the same amount of money as the products I recommend. As for the 3D printer, mine works great and serves the purpose I need it to serve. I can’t say I haven’t had a few problems with it but overall it does what I need it to do. Most sla/dlp printers will do the job though and are actually quite affordable is great. Please let me know if you have any other questions! Good luck on your endeavors!
So far I’ve used a slightly different burnout cycle for every single cast I’ve done. I’m still trying to figure out what works best so I don’t feel comfortable giving out advice yet. Hope you understand, thank you for watching!
6:10 these furnaces work well, but they don't last long. i burned two of them out in only half a year. so i decided to build an induction furnace. it works well and now i can melt stuff at over 1300 °C. there is a crude video on my canal, if you are interested. and interesting video , i like it.
Your furnaces lasted longer than mine did! I broke my the first time I went to test it. Brought it up to its maximum advertised temperature and the thing made some sad noises and quit. I acquired a new furnace from the same company that makes my burnout oven and I love it. I made an update to this video where I talk about my experience with the machines after a few months of working with them. I will definitely check out your video. Thanks for watching!
The casting machine is from China. It does what it’s supposed to do and it does it consistently so I can’t complain. It did come with a broken part but vevor, the manufacturer, quickly sent a replacement part.
First I would try to contact whoever makes it and if that doesn’t work I would contact whoever sold it to you. Mine was made by vevor and sold to me by Walmart. I had an issue with mine and contacted vevor who quickly sent me a replacement part. I hope you can get your vacuum system working!
@@Levi_Sheridan hey I’m really confused on how to change the oil on this vacuum Machine and I think that could be the problem. Is there a way I can contact you and u can give me some tips
@@HURRY-UP-N-BUY for a curing furnace, the one I use is gonna be your best bet commercially but you could potentially build your own for less. Check out VegOil guy on RUclips. He is a great resource on diy furnaces. Good luck!
My new set up that I recommend you can find here… ruclips.net/video/wSSSyvZ-uiA/видео.html I would estimate the total to be around $1750-2000. Let me know if you have any other questions!
Hi Tyler, yes you can! The burnout oven can reach temperatures of 2000-2200 F. The same company that makes my burnout oven makes a metal melting furnace which I have and it works really well. I’ve made an update video to this one where I talk about my experience with these machines. If you are interested please check it out here: ruclips.net/video/wSSSyvZ-uiA/видео.html
@@Levi_Sheridan If the burnout oven can melt metal, why do you also need a melting furnace? I'm confused if I can get away with just a burnout oven or not. Does the melting furnace have any advantages other than the ease of top loading?
@@YokaruXD while the burnout oven can melt metal, it and the metal melting furnace both serve distinct and necessary purposes of the investment casting process. Investment casting requires a wax or plastic core to be melted/burnt away from the inside of the plaster in order to create the cavity in which the metal is poured. Additionally, the plaster mold must be heated to a high temperature before pouring the metal into it. We need the burnout oven and the metal melting furnace for these reasons. The flask must be continuously heated up until the moment the metal is poured into it. If we were to try to heat the mold then remove it from the burnout oven and then melt the metal in the burnout oven, the mold would have cooled to significantly and the cast would most likely fail.
It would be possible with this equipment but I personally don’t have any gold and don’t have any plans on making a gold ring in the future. Thanks for watching!
Essentially, I would say this is 90% of the required equipment in order to cast most metals. Everything else, the other 10%, is inexpensive and accessible. You’ll also need equipment to finish and polish your parts as well. If you have any other questions just let me know.
@@leifbergado6125 I just use a rotary tool with a small buffing wheel attachment. You could spend more on a better setup but it’s just what I have and it works well.
Looking at the same vacuum machine on Aliexpress, just what I was looking for. Great setup, keep the studies up. You can be my adopted son if you want?
Hello! I just released a video of my first cast. You can find it here: ruclips.net/video/yr_J6pFcUSE/видео.html I hope you enjoy and thanks for watching!
@@hustleusa it has multiple functions in the casting process. It helps remove air bubbles from the investment while mixing and after pouring it into the flask. It is also used when pouring metal into the mold and helps the metal fill the mold effectively.
Thanks I was just trying to cast with it and I wasn’t getting the correct suction. I brought it brandnew but did not add oil. Do you think that’s the problem?
@@marquesgreene3816 absolutely! It’s an oil submersion pump. You could damage the motor if you run it without oil. Open up the back and you’ll find them pump. There are two ports so make sure you pour the oil into the correct one. There is a sight glass with a level indicator so fill it up to the correct height you you should be fine. Also, make sure you use vacuum oil!
Hey Joshua, thanks for watching my video. It’s been great! I have had no issues apart from the damage that was incurred during shipping. I contacted Joybuy, the company who sold me the machine, and they quickly sent me replacement parts. The machine works consistently, is well built, and is easy to use. Overall, it gets the job done. However, it is a bit large and it has a lot of empty internal volume meaning if some more effort went into the design, it could probably be much smaller. I plan on making an update video soon on my set up as I have now had a decent amount of experience with the machines and have replaced my metal melting furnace since this video. Thanks again! Best, Levi Sheridan
@@Levi_Sheridan thank you man. Vevor seems to be a new kind of harbor freight. I was looking at a few of their items. So far, everything related to customer service has been top notch. Im glad to hear that is reflected thru joybuy as well. The kaya cast is just a bit much for what it does. I imagine, if it were something i would have running all the time, the difference may be worth it. Sort of like Dewalt vs Ryobi. Fine for home use, but for career you want to pay for the extra sturdiness. Thats just my perception tho🤷♂️ Thanks again, you helped me make up my mind & feel more confident in making a decision for a vacuum system👍 Im actually surprised you paid so much for the burnout oven & did not make your own. Because of size limitation as well as cost. Just a thought i had while watching your video & doing research. I appreciate the video & reply🙏
@@J0SHUAKANE vevor does seem like HF, just without all the coupons. I would want to see one in person before I would say this with 100% confidence but I am pretty sure that the Kaya vest system is almost exactly the same as the vevor or equivalent vacuum system apart from having an external oil filling spout and maybe a better filter. The pumps are all third party mass produced pumps and the build is almost identical to that of vevor. I would not be surprised if one factory somewhere in this world pumped out these vacuum systems and Kaya just adds the spout and brands it. Pretty sure the branding and oil fill spout are the only differences but like I said I have yet seen one in person. I’m glad I could help you make a decision. I know how much research it takes to feel comfortable to make such a large purchase like this and it means a lot to hear that I was a part of that process for you. The reason I got a consumer burn out oven is because I will be moving to a tiny apartment in Manhattan within the next 6 months and I wanted something I would feel comfortable with in that situation. I’ve seen some great custom ovens but they are all larger than what I have. Also, I know I don’t currently have the tools to make anything to the quality and size of the furnace I am currently working with. I payed the premium for convenience and peace of mind. Thanks again, Levi Sheridan
@@J0SHUAKANE might be a bit late, but I got this same machine and oddly enough a Kaya Cast is what arrived at my door. I think the same company produces various types and different companies just throw a brand on them.
@@Levi_Sheridan it is too much for me, actually i am student of mechanical engineering and my final year project is manufacturing of mechanical parts by investment casting. So i am looking for budget friendly under 400$ setup for my project
@@youtube_zeyno I would reccomed you look into green sand casting. The only major investment you would need to make is into a metal melting furnace like the one in this video for $200-400. The rest of the supplies are low cost and can be made by hand. Let me know if you have any questions.
Hey Moises. I am not sure what you are referring to so I am going to go ahead and say no. The three machines in this video are the tabletop furnace company burnout oven, the vevor investment casting vacuum system, and a generic Chinese metal melting furnace. I hope that answer helps. If not feel free to let me know and I'd be more than happy to clarify.
Hi again! I thought about your question some more and realised what you were asking. I do not believe that the burnout oven is the lp model. Heres the link the the furnace pmcsupplies.com/programmable-tabletop-hi-temp-2200-f-electric-burnout-oven-kiln-for-3d-pla-resin-and-carvable-wax.html Thanks for watching!
@@sureshgobi599 the burnout oven is made in the USA. I am not sure if they will ship to India. You should be able to find the vacuum machine and metal melting furnace on websites like Alibaba or similar sites.
It would depend on where you got each tool but I spent approximately $1500-$2000 USD on this exact setup. My current setup, I replaced the furnace on the right, is probably about $200-$300 USD more than the one in this video. I made an update video recently about the new furnace and my experience with the entire setup if you are interested. Thanks for watching!
I am not the best person to teach you about investment casting. I’m still learning and have a lot to improve on. However, I would like to share one of the best resources I’ve found on the topic which is the channel “VOG” on RUclips. He has a tremendous amount of experience and has some really great informational videos. I hope one day I will be more knowledgeable and conformable sharing my experience. Thanks for watching!
Excellent set up Levi. Make sure you have good ventilation when casting indoors, especially during burnout. I've never experienced anything nastier than a few odours and a little smoke at times, but better safe than sorry. Enjoy your new hobby safely my friend 😁
Thanks for the advice! Can’t wait to get started!
Any recommendations for ventilation ??? Fume cupboards are so expensive
Nice set up! Exactly what I'm shooting for. So far have the kaya cast casting table and elegoo mars pro... Slowly getting there. I'm a biker tired of looking for the right rings so decided to start designing them and casting them myself. Lol.
Hey Mike, thanks for watching my video!I’ll be uploading a new video early this week where I’ll be using the set up to make my first cast so keep an eye out for that. If you have the money I would recommend getting a better metal melting furnace than the cheap one I showed in my video. Unfortunately, I broke mine messing around with it so I went ahead and got a quickmelt from the tabletop furnace company who also makes my burnout oven. Both machines are built extremely well and function beautifully. I would love to see your setup when you have everything and the parts you make with it! Again, thanks for watching!
I'm salute your new journey. I'm a graduate mechanical engineering student on the college level. I'm believe in what you are doing and I am starting to buy my equipment to one day get to your level. I subscribed and would like to get a chance to ask some questions once I reach certain levels. 👍
Thank you for your support! I wish you the best of luck on your investment casting journey! Fee free to leave a comment and I’ll get back. You can also find my email on the about page of my channel. I am considering starting a discord soon to allow more communication and to build a small community. Thanks again!
Love how passionate you are... I will be getting a similar setup soon... I'm just thrilled by the idea of making full metal objects... I want to sell them though. Cool Video as well, learnt a few things that I didn't know :-)
Thank you for watching my videos! Good luck with your adventures in investment casting! Feel free to reach out with questions if you have any!
@@Levi_Sheridan I'll take you up on that... If I have any questions I'll ask you.. Thanks Mate
the black thing you put on the investment chamber is not a cap to keep the dust out, its the part of the flask where your wax models are on
I understand that, I said that I was just keeping it there to keep dust out while the chamber was not in use. Thanks for watching.
Just check for used dental laboratory casting equipment. These are made for daily use for years.
Excellent.! Thinking of the same setup
Good luck!
Hope you are still active on RUclips, I have some questions.
thanks for a great video Levi and the links awesome just getting into this for my jewelry buisness awesome and good luck!!
Thanks! And good luck to you as well
Please casting a 3d ring and show me haw to it work and what is the palak temperature and how many time in burnout
Hello Nitesh, thank you for watching my video. I will be casting a ring soon so keep an eye out for that. I am not sure what you mean by palak but I heat the plaster mold to 1000f before the pour and pour the aluminum at 1325f. The burnout I use is 9 hours long.
If you would like to see make make something that is not a ring check this out! ruclips.net/video/1_yh0k5kIVw/видео.html
@@Levi_Sheridan thank you where are you from
@@niteshsoni3428 I am from Chicago. Where are you from?
@@Levi_Sheridan india
hi there... Are you still happy with your vacuum machine? I am not sure If I should get the Kaya or Vevor. the price is so different.
The vacuum machine still works great!
I love it, looks great
Thank you.
@@Levi_Sheridan is it possible to cast silver little objects with this setup?
@@demirakin absolutely, I could theoretically cast any metal that melts at or below 2100-2200 F. I intend to make some jewelry with silver within the next few months.
@@Levi_Sheridan I will follow your works, congrats.
@@demirakin thank you Akin!
Hello, I have one question. When you bake the mold, you put it in the casting chamber in the vacuum system, I'm not entirely clear why? A negative pressure is created in the chamber around the mold, but the metal is poured into the cavity in the mold in which there is air.Somehow it doesn't make sense to me . Next question . The red seals look like silicone rubber, it has a typical temperature resistance of up to 300C (560F), but for example the material for making a mold for casting gold Prestige UNICAST has a firing temperature of 750C (1350F).
We put the flask (mold) in the vacuum while casting to help the molten metal fill the mold fully. When then metal enters the mold, there is a pressure difference across the top surface of the metal exposed to the air and the interior of the mold. This pressure difference drives the metal into all of the fine details of the mold.
As for the red seals, I believe they are silicon. They do sustain damage through use and have to occasionally be replaced.
Thanks for watching.
Thanks for the reply, it sounds logical, but even so, I would assume that the fired clay or phosphate form is practically impermeable. I am going to purchase technology for precision casting of copper castings from 5 to 50g (Lost Wax) . For casting, I looked into vacuum casting, but building a cheap vacuum chamber in which I put a hot mold, suck out the air, melt the metal inductively and tip it into the mold is not exactly trivial. I will probably cast a plaster plug and test the permeability at a pressure of 1 bar (15psi) Thanks again @@Levi_Sheridan
@@SheldonCoper-w8i good luck with your testing. The plaster I use is Ultravest from Ransom and Randolph if you are interested in taking a look.
does that furnace work better than the "toauto ( red S.Y italy)"? people comments that the red one have problems melting cooper. what about this one? I'm trying to decide between those two
Ty dor the video
I’ve never used the toauto furnace so I cannot tell you which one is better. The furnace shown in this video broke when trying to reach the temperatures required for melting copper. I now use the table top furnace company metal melting furnace and highly recommend it if you can afford one.
Hi again. How has this vacuum chamber worked? (both for the mold and for pouring metal). I'm thinking of buying the same one, is it worth it or do I pay almost double for the original?
Hows everything been going? You turn a profit? Is it still really 100 to 200 a litre for wax resin?.. I feel like it should be only used for like one offs but if you know you might want to make more of say one ring then use regular uv resin and make a silicone mold off it where you can always just pour wax back in
Everything is going well! I haven’t used to equipment to make parts for sale so I haven’t made any profit. Wax resin can range anywhere from $50-250 per bottle. And yes, you are correct, if you want to go in production, the best Approach is to manufacturer a reusable silicone mold that you can inject wax into. Still, 3D printing does offer some manufacturing capabilities that injection can’t achieve so it’s a case to case manufacturing decision. Let me know if you have any other questions.
would you recommend the burnout oven? did it worked out for you good? and would you recommend the metal melting furnace ?
Hi Alexandra! I would highly recommend the burnout oven I have. It’s built incredibly well, is easy to use, and works without issue. I personally think it’s a terrific deal if you are interested in something that will work well straight out of the box and for a long time. I ended up breaking the furnace within a few hours of testing it. Ill link a video below I made as an update to this video where I talk about my experience with the oven and the furnace after some time working with them. Thanks for watching!
ruclips.net/video/wSSSyvZ-uiA/видео.html
@@Levi_Sheridan you don't really need the wax resin. Get you a cheap flexible or weak resin that will burn away easily. Just a suggestion. It worked out well for me. But I mostly use pla now . I smooth it out with acetone first. You might need to scale up ur models because the metal might shrink
@@miclairmiclair876 I have used both PLA like filament and wax resin to make cast. For my purposes I need high precision parts and the PLA just doesn’t cut it even with acetone smoothing. For artistic applications I’m sure that PLA would work fine but for engineering applications resin is ideal. Thanks for watching!
I have the same furnace and vacuum machine but got lucky locally for the burn out oven. I saw where you said you replaced your furnace and was wondering why. I haven't had a chance to use mine yet. Thanks!
Hey Drew, thanks for watching . I replaced it because I broke it. My furnace broke when I raised the temperature to it’s advertised maximum and it broke after being held there for too long. I found the furnace to be cheap and while I was upset I essentially wasted $300 I am now very happy with my new high quality furnace and looking back, I wish I just got the nicer furnace in the first place. I made an update video where I talk a little more about this, you can check it out here ruclips.net/video/wSSSyvZ-uiA/видео.html
@@Levi_Sheridan Thanks. That has me a little worried as I'm planning on melting brass. Maybe I will be able to rebuild it if it breaks on me.
@@SmithDrewSmith please let me know how that goes, I’m looking to melt some cooper in the future. Hope the machine works well for you.
Levi, im curious as to how the vacuum machine pulls a vacuum on the solid cured mold while you pour? The only hole in mold, you are pouring thru…. So the solid base of mold is down. Does it pull a vacuum thru the cured investment? Puzzling to me.
The investment plaster is porous so air can be sucked through it. This is why off the shelf plaster like plaster of Paris won't work well, among other reasons. You need to use specially formulated investment casting plaster.
@@Levi_Sheridan Thank you Sheridan. I just ordered the oven. Will try to get the others as I can. I appreciate the help.
Can you tell me about the benefit of the vacuum? In the casting, because I notice that the investment mold does not have holes to suction air
The metal flask that the mold is made inside of does have holes. The purpose of the vacuum is to create a force which assist in filling the empty space of the mold with the molten metal. The pressure inside of the vacuum is much lower than atmospheric pressure which creates a force which pulls the metal into the mold more effectively than otherwise.
I would like to know using the furnace in your flat does it get tooo hot in the room?
Heating up to 800-1000 C might get very hot and is there any fire danger?
Hey Armask! My shop is about 90 square meters and I have had no issues with the space heating up in a significant manner while operating both of the furnaces in my setup. The insulating material used in both the furnace and the oven are wonderful. It can definitely get a little warm in the immediate area while a furnace is open but generally, I keep some fans running and a window open which brings in fresh and the room stays cool.
When operating the furnace and oven there is of course some risk of fire. Both the furnace and the oven are electric and are made of fire resistant materials which dramatically lowers the risk but still there is some. I have had no fires within or near the furnace or oven yet. As long as you are carful, thoughtful, and deliberate with your setup and use of the furnace and oven, I would say the risk of fire is very low but still existent. Thanks for watching!
And more thing - this furnace uses a lot of electricity?
It suppose to work like 8h + - and make a lot of heat, so probably it uses a lot of it?
@@armaskdaufuzz2286 the furnaces both consume a maximum of 1500 watts which is typically the maximum power for most buildings main supply in the United States. It would depend on where you are in the world but for me the cost is not too bad.
@@Levi_Sheridan 1500watts per hour?
@@armaskdaufuzz2286 1500 watts is the maximum power consumption. The power consumed over time depends on your use of the oven and the external environment.
Is it worth it to have casting equipment at home especially with a high electricity bill!! what is the cost to burn one piece of resin/wax?, Thanks.
It’s less than $4.00 United States dollars in electricity cost where I live for one burnout. Your cost would depend on where you live but it shouldn’t be significantly different. Wether or not that’s worth it is up to you.
Hey Levi, thanks for this video.
I am in fact from Belgium and also want to start something with jewelry. Do you recommend this stuff as a beginner? And is the quality good?
And the 3D printer is it good?
Hello! I do recommend most of the equipment in this video. Both the burnout oven and the vacuum machine work well and consistently. The metal melting furnace in this video, while it may work for some people, is not something I can personally recommend. I found mine to be low quality and mine actually broke after minimal use within advertised operating conditions. I’ve made an updated video where I recommend a different metal melting furnace that you can watch here ruclips.net/video/wSSSyvZ-uiA/видео.html
I would absolutely recommend these tools for beginners. For the money I do not think you could buy better tools for the job. For the burnout oven and vacuum machine I believe they are the least expensive consumer products for their respective purposes and both work extremely well. As for the metal melting furnace I recommend in my new video, it is not the least expensive version but for the quality of the machine it is absolutely worth the extra money if you can afford it. Both the metal melting furnace and burnout oven are sold by a company that provides great customer support as well. There is also the option of building your own equipment but that requires a lot of skill and personally I do not believe most people could build similar quality machines for the same amount of money as the products I recommend.
As for the 3D printer, mine works great and serves the purpose I need it to serve. I can’t say I haven’t had a few problems with it but overall it does what I need it to do. Most sla/dlp printers will do the job though and are actually quite affordable is great.
Please let me know if you have any other questions! Good luck on your endeavors!
@@Levi_Sheridan Thanks Levi for your reply
Appreciate it deep from my heart, has given me some insight.
Hope you get far with your career.
Peace
Hey with the kiln burnout oven what’s your procedure to burn out wax ? Like temperature wise.
So far I’ve used a slightly different burnout cycle for every single cast I’ve done. I’m still trying to figure out what works best so I don’t feel comfortable giving out advice yet. Hope you understand, thank you for watching!
what vacuum oil did you end up purchasing?
I got mine on Amazon. Don’t remember the brand but an basic vacuum oil should work.
6:10 these furnaces work well, but they don't last long. i burned two of them out in only half a year. so i decided to build an induction furnace. it works well and now i can melt stuff at over 1300 °C.
there is a crude video on my canal, if you are interested.
and interesting video , i like it.
Your furnaces lasted longer than mine did! I broke my the first time I went to test it. Brought it up to its maximum advertised temperature and the thing made some sad noises and quit. I acquired a new furnace from the same company that makes my burnout oven and I love it. I made an update to this video where I talk about my experience with the machines after a few months of working with them. I will definitely check out your video. Thanks for watching!
That casting machine is a chinese one correct? How has it performed?
The casting machine is from China. It does what it’s supposed to do and it does it consistently so I can’t complain. It did come with a broken part but vevor, the manufacturer, quickly sent a replacement part.
hello, how many hours does the furnace process take? like how many hours do you have to put the flask with the investment in the furnace?
Hello, the burnout process takes about 13 hours for my materials and set up.
@@Levi_Sheridan thank you so much
Can this machine invest cobalt chromium?
You’d need a different furnace capable of reaching higher temperatures but the vacuum machine should work.
Terrific Stuff Dr. Sheridan. First caster I made exploded and killed my pet fish Milo. Rip
I am sorry to hear about your fish.
omg
Hey who do you contact if your concerned the vacuum doesn’t work
First I would try to contact whoever makes it and if that doesn’t work I would contact whoever sold it to you.
Mine was made by vevor and sold to me by Walmart. I had an issue with mine and contacted vevor who quickly sent me a replacement part.
I hope you can get your vacuum system working!
@@Levi_Sheridan hey I’m really confused on how to change the oil on this vacuum Machine and I think that could be the problem. Is there a way I can contact you and u can give me some tips
@@Dr.MoneyMonday I’d recommend reaching out to vevor cast or finding their manual online.
How much was the curing furnace?
Around $600 USD.
@@Levi_Sheridan appreciate the feedback,I wonder if there's a cheaper or homemade route?🤔
@@HURRY-UP-N-BUY for a curing furnace, the one I use is gonna be your best bet commercially but you could potentially build your own for less. Check out VegOil guy on RUclips. He is a great resource on diy furnaces. Good luck!
What is the total cost of your whole setup?
My new set up that I recommend you can find here…
ruclips.net/video/wSSSyvZ-uiA/видео.html
I would estimate the total to be around $1750-2000. Let me know if you have any other questions!
Hi! Can you melt silver in that burn out oven?
Hi Tyler, yes you can! The burnout oven can reach temperatures of 2000-2200 F. The same company that makes my burnout oven makes a metal melting furnace which I have and it works really well. I’ve made an update video to this one where I talk about my experience with these machines. If you are interested please check it out here: ruclips.net/video/wSSSyvZ-uiA/видео.html
@@Levi_Sheridan If the burnout oven can melt metal, why do you also need a melting furnace? I'm confused if I can get away with just a burnout oven or not. Does the melting furnace have any advantages other than the ease of top loading?
@@YokaruXD while the burnout oven can melt metal, it and the metal melting furnace both serve distinct and necessary purposes of the investment casting process. Investment casting requires a wax or plastic core to be melted/burnt away from the inside of the plaster in order to create the cavity in which the metal is poured. Additionally, the plaster mold must be heated to a high temperature before pouring the metal into it. We need the burnout oven and the metal melting furnace for these reasons. The flask must be continuously heated up until the moment the metal is poured into it. If we were to try to heat the mold then remove it from the burnout oven and then melt the metal in the burnout oven, the mold would have cooled to significantly and the cast would most likely fail.
@@Levi_Sheridan Thanks man
Hello,can u casting thin ring 24k gold?
It would be possible with this equipment but I personally don’t have any gold and don’t have any plans on making a gold ring in the future. Thanks for watching!
@@Levi_Sheridan thank you bro.
@@immamcool379 No problem! Let me know If you have any other questions.
Very informative, love your video!
Thank you Johnny!
Bro is that all the equipment you need to cast gold or any type of metal?
Essentially, I would say this is 90% of the required equipment in order to cast most metals. Everything else, the other 10%, is inexpensive and accessible. You’ll also need equipment to finish and polish your parts as well. If you have any other questions just let me know.
@@Levi_Sheridan what equipment do you use for polishing?
@@leifbergado6125 I just use a rotary tool with a small buffing wheel attachment. You could spend more on a better setup but it’s just what I have and it works well.
@@Levi_Sheridan thanks bro
@@leifbergado6125 of course! Let me know if you have any other questions.
Are you still casting?
Yes, I now work at a foundry.
Hey is it anyway I can get in touch with you
Looking at the same vacuum machine on Aliexpress, just what I was looking for. Great setup, keep the studies up. You can be my adopted son if you want?
Thanks! I’m pretty happy with my current parents haha!
@@Levi_Sheridan I was going to double your allowance, and buy you a Tesla! Too late now!
Show us how do you make it
Hello! I just released a video of my first cast. You can find it here:
ruclips.net/video/yr_J6pFcUSE/видео.html
I hope you enjoy and thanks for watching!
Does anyone see us about filtering the golden pieces after the casting process and what materials used in that
I’m sorry but I don’t understand you question.
Filter gypsum from gold pieces after casting
@منوعات The plaster is broken away from the part after casting. A brush can then be used with some water to remove the rest.
Hi friend,we have good solution for casting.
Hello, and what would that be?
How much price
You can find the prices of all of the machines shown in the video in the description. The entire setup cost roughly $2000 USD
What about for gold
This set up should work.
@@Levi_Sheridan what does the middle machine exactly do
@@hustleusa it has multiple functions in the casting process. It helps remove air bubbles from the investment while mixing and after pouring it into the flask. It is also used when pouring metal into the mold and helps the metal fill the mold effectively.
Where do you put the oil ?
There is an access panel on the back of the machine that give you access to the pump.
Thanks I was just trying to cast with it and I wasn’t getting the correct suction. I brought it brandnew but did not add oil. Do you think that’s the problem?
@@marquesgreene3816 absolutely! It’s an oil submersion pump. You could damage the motor if you run it without oil. Open up the back and you’ll find them pump. There are two ports so make sure you pour the oil into the correct one. There is a sight glass with a level indicator so fill it up to the correct height you you should be fine. Also, make sure you use vacuum oil!
@@Levi_Sheridan thanks very helpful
@@marquesgreene3816 of course! Feel free to reach out if you have any other questions!
After 2 months, how has your experience been with the vevor vacuum system?
Hey Joshua, thanks for watching my video. It’s been great! I have had no issues apart from the damage that was incurred during shipping. I contacted Joybuy, the company who sold me the machine, and they quickly sent me replacement parts. The machine works consistently, is well built, and is easy to use. Overall, it gets the job done. However, it is a bit large and it has a lot of empty internal volume meaning if some more effort went into the design, it could probably be much smaller. I plan on making an update video soon on my set up as I have now had a decent amount of experience with the machines and have replaced my metal melting furnace since this video. Thanks again!
Best, Levi Sheridan
@@Levi_Sheridan thank you man. Vevor seems to be a new kind of harbor freight. I was looking at a few of their items. So far, everything related to customer service has been top notch. Im glad to hear that is reflected thru joybuy as well. The kaya cast is just a bit much for what it does. I imagine, if it were something i would have running all the time, the difference may be worth it. Sort of like Dewalt vs Ryobi. Fine for home use, but for career you want to pay for the extra sturdiness. Thats just my perception tho🤷♂️
Thanks again, you helped me make up my mind & feel more confident in making a decision for a vacuum system👍
Im actually surprised you paid so much for the burnout oven & did not make your own. Because of size limitation as well as cost. Just a thought i had while watching your video & doing research. I appreciate the video & reply🙏
@@J0SHUAKANE vevor does seem like HF, just without all the coupons. I would want to see one in person before I would say this with 100% confidence but I am pretty sure that the Kaya vest system is almost exactly the same as the vevor or equivalent vacuum system apart from having an external oil filling spout and maybe a better filter. The pumps are all third party mass produced pumps and the build is almost identical to that of vevor. I would not be surprised if one factory somewhere in this world pumped out these vacuum systems and Kaya just adds the spout and brands it. Pretty sure the branding and oil fill spout are the only differences but like I said I have yet seen one in person.
I’m glad I could help you make a decision. I know how much research it takes to feel comfortable to make such a large purchase like this and it means a lot to hear that I was a part of that process for you.
The reason I got a consumer burn out oven is because I will be moving to a tiny apartment in Manhattan within the next 6 months and I wanted something I would feel comfortable with in that situation. I’ve seen some great custom ovens but they are all larger than what I have. Also, I know I don’t currently have the tools to make anything to the quality and size of the furnace I am currently working with. I payed the premium for convenience and peace of mind.
Thanks again, Levi Sheridan
@@J0SHUAKANE might be a bit late, but I got this same machine and oddly enough a Kaya Cast is what arrived at my door. I think the same company produces various types and different companies just throw a brand on them.
Levi why did you erase my comment about the diamonds ?
I don’t believe that I did... Feel free to leave it again. Sorry about that.
How much is the total cost???? Please tell
Approximately $2000-2500 USD
@@Levi_Sheridan it is too much for me, actually i am student of mechanical engineering and my final year project is manufacturing of mechanical parts by investment casting. So i am looking for budget friendly under 400$ setup for my project
@@youtube_zeyno I would reccomed you look into green sand casting. The only major investment you would need to make is into a metal melting furnace like the one in this video for $200-400. The rest of the supplies are low cost and can be made by hand. Let me know if you have any questions.
@@Levi_Sheridan Thanks for the suggestion. we are looking in the local market that how to do this. your video is helpfull
@@youtube_zeyno good luck!
is that the pro lp model?
Hey Moises. I am not sure what you are referring to so I am going to go ahead and say no. The three machines in this video are the tabletop furnace company burnout oven, the vevor investment casting vacuum system, and a generic Chinese metal melting furnace. I hope that answer helps. If not feel free to let me know and I'd be more than happy to clarify.
Hi again! I thought about your question some more and realised what you were asking. I do not believe that the burnout oven is the lp model. Heres the link the the furnace pmcsupplies.com/programmable-tabletop-hi-temp-2200-f-electric-burnout-oven-kiln-for-3d-pla-resin-and-carvable-wax.html
Thanks for watching!
The furnace looks like it may be the LP model with a vent hole drilled into it...
@@Levi_Sheridan yup thats its, thank you for your fast response and wish you goodluck in your casting journey
How much
Total set up cost around $2000 usd
How I can get in India
@@sureshgobi599 the burnout oven is made in the USA. I am not sure if they will ship to India. You should be able to find the vacuum machine and metal melting furnace on websites like Alibaba or similar sites.
@@Levi_Sheridan hallo Levi
Thanks for your video. I´am also learning casting jewelery and adore the profession goldsmith.
This all Machines price
It would depend on where you got each tool but I spent approximately $1500-$2000 USD on this exact setup. My current setup, I replaced the furnace on the right, is probably about $200-$300 USD more than the one in this video. I made an update video recently about the new furnace and my experience with the entire setup if you are interested. Thanks for watching!
Please All machines buy link give me
All of the links are in the description of the video.
@@Levi_Sheridan castable jewelry resin name ?
@@moondark9977 I’ve only ever used Funtodo castable resin with great success.
@@Levi_Sheridan Please machines names or buy link give me
@@moondark9977 check the description of the video. All of the product links are there.
Sir you teach me work
I am not the best person to teach you about investment casting. I’m still learning and have a lot to improve on. However, I would like to share one of the best resources I’ve found on the topic which is the channel “VOG” on RUclips. He has a tremendous amount of experience and has some really great informational videos. I hope one day I will be more knowledgeable and conformable sharing my experience. Thanks for watching!
Give me one machine please..paid after delivery