Excellent! Really nice 'round trip' through all the possible leverage points in a session to minimize latency. Thanks! (Knew them for the most part, but can't hurt to refresh memory on all of them)
oh man! I am so glad I watched this video. Thank you very much! There are a lot of people out there that should be watching this video. Latency is a huge problem with a lot people who have issues.
Thanks for such genuinely useful information in a video, you explained everything in a clear and concise way that will be a great help for newcomers to Logic like myself and I suppose the same things would apply to other DAW's as well. I shall be subscribing...cheers
I think I’ve found the right video thanks for your help. The issue I’m facing is for example, I record a 2 bar drum loop into logic from my external drum machine as audio. I then copy that 2 bar loop and paste it to the next bar, but the kick comes in earlier than how it’s recorded!! This is terrible when I spend time getting the swing how I like it outside of logic. On the flip side if I just say f**k it, I’ll try record the whole 3 minutes of drums and melody and record my bass line to it after. Then towards the end of the recording is not at the same point on the grid as the start - meaning if I paste a looped bass part it will be later in the pocket than the drums and melody at the end. Sorry for long explanation but I’ve only heard people talking of latency and not the opposite, coming in early. Please help if you can, nightmare fuel this stuff
Your approach is SO much better than most. Subscribed!! Quick question: I changed out my 2015 MacBook Pro for a M1 Mac mini, same memory but got latency even though the settings are the same. If doing all of this doesn't change it, do you have another video on the topic to help me further?
Someone might wonder, how do I know if the CPU can't cope with the load? You may hear crackles and pops or gaps in the playback. Though once, I heard something like that, and it turned out to be clipping, where a synth got too loud. How did I know it was clipping? The noise disappeared when I put a limiter on the track. If you increase the buffer size and the noise disappears, then it is a probably CPU overload.
Even though I respect the video and the insight you’ve shared, there’s one workflow I use that kills all the need for this discussion, let me explain: Regardless of whether the session is light or heavy on the CPU, as long as you can playback your session with some CPU headroom, this approach works flawlessly. Put Logic into Low Latency mode. On the channel(s) that you’re recording on, use zero latency plugins (an EQ like Pro-Q and a compressor like the Puigchild, for example). Make sure this channel’s output is routed to the stereo out and not a submix. Create a stereo ‘dummy master’ channel where you can temporarily offload the master channel plugins on while tracking (this may include a look ahead limited, clipper or more exotic EQ). Back to the recording channel, feel free to set up reverb/delay/time based FXs via busses but, because we’re in Low Latency mode, right click on the bus and check ‘Low Latency Safe’ - this allows you to use the bus FX without any latency issues… after all, who needs immediate sounding reverbs - the very nature of reverb or delay means there’s some latency happening. You can continue to record safely in this fashion all day long, even at higher buffer sizes of 256. Hope this makes sense! Worked amazingly well with my aging Mac Pro 5,1 on MASSIVE projects and continues to work well on my new Mac Studio M1 Pro.
@@SamLoose It's not a stock plugin but I tried hovering over some of the other plugins in my project and now I see it's displaying latency for some of those. So it looks like you're right. It doesn't display anything if the plugin has no latency. Thanks🙂
Unfortunately latency is an issue for me although I have the best equipped M2 Mac mini. I try to solve this when recording vocals by bouncing the whole project as a stereo file, then record the lyrics, edit them, bounce them and import them to the again loaded Logic project!. Is it also okay to mix the vocal tracks to a finished mixed stereo file of the instrumental tracks or can‘t you do that because of any reason? What reason would that be? Thanks for this excellently informing topic about latency.
As a Logic user for many years now, this was very informative for those coming into the Music Production world👌🏼
Excellent! Really nice 'round trip' through all the possible leverage points in a session to minimize latency. Thanks! (Knew them for the most part, but can't hurt to refresh memory on all of them)
Great tutorial! Thanks!
so amazingly helpful. fantastic. thankyou
oh man! I am so glad I watched this video. Thank you very much! There are a lot of people out there that should be watching this video. Latency is a huge problem with a lot people who have issues.
Excellent presentation! Thank you very much!
Thank you for your video !!! This is very important details !
Thank youuuuuuu!
I randomly found how to fix latency by pressing buttons but really wanted an explanation and this was perfect! Great job on this video
I’m glad it was helpful!
Extremely helpful!
Glad you think so!
Thanks for such genuinely useful information in a video, you explained everything in a clear and concise way that will be a great help for newcomers to Logic like myself and I suppose the same things would apply to other DAW's as well. I shall be subscribing...cheers
Thanks for checking it out 👍
Great stuff!! Love how you're explaining everything. You clearly understand that not everyone on YT is a mixing engineer lol
Glad you think so!
I think I’ve found the right video thanks for your help.
The issue I’m facing is for example, I record a 2 bar drum loop into logic from my external drum machine as audio.
I then copy that 2 bar loop and paste it to the next bar, but the kick comes in earlier than how it’s recorded!! This is terrible when I spend time getting the swing how I like it outside of logic.
On the flip side if I just say f**k it, I’ll try record the whole 3 minutes of drums and melody and record my bass line to it after. Then towards the end of the recording is not at the same point on the grid as the start - meaning if I paste a looped bass part it will be later in the pocket than the drums and melody at the end.
Sorry for long explanation but I’ve only heard people talking of latency and not the opposite, coming in early.
Please help if you can, nightmare fuel this stuff
Your approach is SO much better than most. Subscribed!! Quick question: I changed out my 2015 MacBook Pro for a M1 Mac mini, same memory but got latency even though the settings are the same. If doing all of this doesn't change it, do you have another video on the topic to help me further?
Thanks, I appreciate that! If you’re still having issues feel free to drop me an email at sam@nastudios.co.uk and we’ll see if we can get you sorted.
Someone might wonder, how do I know if the CPU can't cope with the load? You may hear crackles and pops or gaps in the playback. Though once, I heard something like that, and it turned out to be clipping, where a synth got too loud. How did I know it was clipping? The noise disappeared when I put a limiter on the track. If you increase the buffer size and the noise disappears, then it is a probably CPU overload.
Thanks. How do we avoid the latency when using bluetooth?
Freeze track freezes up to the project end not cycle range.
That’s what I meant to say! Slip of the tongue.
ur a g thank you so much
I use logic on stage live, with 11 update I suddenly lost the ability to remotely midi trigger 'performance' channel strips I've created.
Any ideas?
Thank you very much :)
Does switching off plugins while they remain inserted help with cpu resources or you literally have to delete the plugin? Never understood this...
Disabling (switching off) a plug in does reduce CPU. You don't have to remove it from the track.
Even though I respect the video and the insight you’ve shared, there’s one workflow I use that kills all the need for this discussion, let me explain:
Regardless of whether the session is light or heavy on the CPU, as long as you can playback your session with some CPU headroom, this approach works flawlessly. Put Logic into Low Latency mode. On the channel(s) that you’re recording on, use zero latency plugins (an EQ like Pro-Q and a compressor like the Puigchild, for example). Make sure this channel’s output is routed to the stereo out and not a submix. Create a stereo ‘dummy master’ channel where you can temporarily offload the master channel plugins on while tracking (this may include a look ahead limited, clipper or more exotic EQ). Back to the recording channel, feel free to set up reverb/delay/time based FXs via busses but, because we’re in Low Latency mode, right click on the bus and check ‘Low Latency Safe’ - this allows you to use the bus FX without any latency issues… after all, who needs immediate sounding reverbs - the very nature of reverb or delay means there’s some latency happening. You can continue to record safely in this fashion all day long, even at higher buffer sizes of 256.
Hope this makes sense! Worked amazingly well with my aging Mac Pro 5,1 on MASSIVE projects and continues to work well on my new Mac Studio M1 Pro.
Hovering over the plugin does not work for me. All it shows is the name of the plugin. Is there a setting somewhere for this?
Usually that’s because the plugin isn’t creating any latency. Is this a logic stock plugin?
@@SamLoose It's not a stock plugin but I tried hovering over some of the other plugins in my project and now I see it's displaying latency for some of those. So it looks like you're right. It doesn't display anything if the plugin has no latency.
Thanks🙂
When I hover over a plugin in the mixer, the latency value doesn't appear. What do I need to change to make the value appear ?
That usually means it’s not imparting any significant latency. What is the plugin?
Omnisphere 2
Unfortunately latency is an issue for me although I have the best equipped M2 Mac mini. I try to solve this when recording vocals by bouncing the whole project as a stereo file, then record the lyrics, edit them, bounce them and import them to the again loaded Logic project!. Is it also okay to mix the vocal tracks to a finished mixed stereo file of the instrumental tracks or can‘t you do that because of any reason? What reason would that be?
Thanks for this excellently informing topic about latency.