"LOAD and RETURN"
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- "LOAD and RETURN"...Landing, loading, and takeoffs of CAL FIRE S-2
aircraft at the Columbia Air Attack Base in the foothills of the Sierra's near Sonora, California. The aircraft were working the Old Fire in the
Stanislaus National Forest during this filming.
I love love love that these are flown solo. My dream job after I retire from the Air Force.
6 days on 1 day off for all of summer is the problem
Ty Bauer how’s that a problem? Work hard all summer, save money and travel in the off season. Plus your doing a very noble job knowing your potentially saving lives and other important assets.
I appreciate your service
A Jr dick
A Jr nah ur just a dick ur life must be so shit, don’t try to bring ppl down to ur low level, fuck off
Rest in peace Geoffrey Hunt. He's the pilot of Tanker 81 who had a fatal crash. That's why you only see Tanker 80, 82, and 83.
@Commando Jessica What an inane and tasteless comment !!
RIP Mr. Hunt
SAD LOST TO FRIENDS AND FAMILY LOST SAVING OTHER IN FIGHTING FIRE
Commando Jessica if that’s a guenuine question, I’m assuming every time they get a new plane they give it a new number and I’m assuming they upgrade a lot from crashes failures etc cause these planes are old
@Commando Jessica Yep, that's clearly the case, your comment was doused with it !!.
Intense and dangerous. Mostly because when one gets tired one tends to start ignoring the danger element.
Takes a special type of personality to keep this up day in day out and stay safe.
Salute all those around the world on humanitarian missions that put their own precious lives on the line. No greater love.
this is when a forest is burning in hell, when firefighters are fighting to their last breath
I won't expect them to work like this 24/7, 365 days a year
that would be the end to the world
No mucking around, these pilots and handlers are on a mission, military precision here, no, even better, RESPECT
I flew off my ship in the C-2 Trader version. No catapult. Taxi aft and turn around with the tail over the stern, turn around, rev up the engines, run down the angle and fall off the end. For a 19-year old that was a hell of a feeling. My stomach was up in my throat until we started climbing.
I think what you are describing would be classed as a TRUE pucker moment.
"Have faith.... have faith.... have faith.... OH GOD..... YES..... Climb you beautiful thing...."
I worked on the S-2F's in their waning days in the Navy. Neat to see the old girls still providing a vital service.
Turboprop conversion, powered by two Garrett TPE331 engines;[35] A total of 22 are operated by the CDF. I see the first landing is a turboprop.
They sound funny tho, with the turboprop engines. Used to see the old style radial versions all the time out at NAS Whidbey in the 50s and early 60s.. 🤔
@@jerrydoolittle9747 I joined the Navy in the early 70's and the radials were on their way out then, but we still had a couple of US-2F's and 2 T-28's at NAS Alameda. I was stationed at Whidbey in the 80's with VA-165.
@@michaelbandeko3519 My dad worked as a avionics tech rep for Philco Ford. Worked on S2/P2/P3/P5M platforms in the late 50s and 60s.. Sigh... Very familiar with VA-165, next door neighbor and good family friend was lost in an A6 in Jan 68... thanks for sharing.. 👍🤔
Back in 1984, I worked for Sis-Q Flying Service in Santa Rosa, CA. I started there as a sheetmetal mech building the tanks and modifying S2-F's to install the tank. During the summer fire season I was a wandering A&P flying up the West Coast doing emergency maintenance. Good ole Wright 1820 round engines, beautiful music at full throttle. I miss that sound.
Me too
I worked for Sis-Q in 1981 & 1982, flying air attack 440 out of Columbia. Tanker 76 was Norm Foster and Tanker 77 was Jim Aiken. In '82 it was Jerry Donahue in 77. Both Jim and Jerry died in crashes.
Some joke about hot load in rear.
Yep. There are a few sophomoric jokes that I saw. Including plugging a hose in the port labeled 'hot load'.
@@longshot7601 Thanks, you saved me the trouble of making the joke myself.
you could make that a pornotitel: big whitey gets a hot load up their back
I used to work on Navy S-2 Trackers at NAS Norfolk Va., the very last of them I think. Good to see they got a second life.
The taiwanese army have retired the S2T too.
Thank you to all the courageous Fire personnel who work incessantly on these horrific fires in California! I can’t even imagine what these pilots must see as they work so hard to stop the flames ..... the thousands of acres engulfed.....the homes disappearing in the smoke below them and them wondering “Can we stop the advance? etc.”. We are so incredibly thankful to all the Cal-Fire men and women who are sacrificing so much to get these fires under control. No amount of thank you’s is enough !
The sound of those turboprops always gets me running outside. We had a house fire that spread into a field nearby. Air attack was on station way before the sirens started.
Have to say I preferred the sounds of the old radials back at NAS Nowra (NSW) in the 80s 😝
Sweet. Had no idea Cal Fire flew the S-2. Good to see those old girls still getting work.
Clean camera work nicely done. Thumbs Up!
The tail immediately reminds me of a modern A-20!
I’m down the street from McClellan air park where the 747-400 is based right now. Amazing aircraft. Thanks for your hard work
A very sturdy and reliable little aircraft, typical Grumman design
They also make the USPS vehicles. lol
Chris Darting Grumman did, it is called The Grumman Long Life Vehicle (LLV); using the chassis of the Chevy S-10.
There was a good reason they were called Grumman Iron Works. They reached their pinnacle with the Tomcat. I hope they will join the competition for the Next Generation Air Dominance (NGAD) initiative but I think Northrop Grumman is done with the Navy after the screwing they got with the X-47B.
Such a beautiful plane.
Excellent repurposing of an already good aircraft design.
I miss the sound of the old engines ... I used to go to air shows there with my dad and brother there Father’s Day weekend and I would watch them take off/land/refuel and load for hours. Those old engines were glorious to listen to 😊. Years before my eldest brother was home on leave from the Air Force and we stopped there to look at the planes (around 1972) as one was coming in it hit a tree and crashed. My dad and both brothers ran to render aid and once they were out of my line of vision the plane exploded. I thought they were all killed and I began screaming. Unfortunately both pilots were killed, but thankfully my dad and brothers were alive. My dad suffered some burns on his head. Thank you to all air tanker pilots ... what you do is extremely dangerous. My husband retired from CALFire, tho it was called CDF then, he had a number of very close calls, but if it wasn’t for the mercy of the Almighty, he would not be here with me today. Thank you to all fire fighters ~ whether you fly in the sky or are boots on the ground or in a dozer, your courage and sense of duty protects us all. God bless.
Very neat how that all works. Like a well oiled machine.
Looks like an OV 10 mohawk nose. Cool aircraft
OV-10 Bronco. The Mohawk was the OV-1.
Interesting to see S2s with turbines. In the 70s we flew 'em with 2 radial engines.
KutWrite are the CalFire planes from that era?
KutWrite Yip,Taiwan led the initiative to re-engine them with turbines,after they couldnt get Orions from the US.
The S2 looks kinda cute with the turboprops, but the radials are so big compared to the fuselage, that it looks almost funny. Awesome plane :D
Absolutely awesome, reminded me of Vietnam days finding a spot to land hover to extract while taking fire. You guys are incredible.
Cool . Great landings
Cool to see the Stoof still working hard. Navy AW in former (1970's) life.
Wonder how an S-3B would work... sure a lot of them sitting in the boneyard . An AW from the 80s-90s (though mostly helo).
It just amazes me that these are single pilot operations. The skills these guys have...
These pilots must be very experienced, they handle these aircraft with such confidence.
I should hope all pilots fly with confidence hahah
@@morerightrudder9742 These guys have the experience to justify their confidence. Many times the people that crash were confident, unfortunately the confidence was misplaced.
This is the first time I have seen a "stoof" in Civvies! Neat video.
CalFire pretty much rebuilt the plane from the ground up in order to put the turbines in, replacing the old radials.
@@skydiverclassc2031 We have a similar company a few miles from me. They are rebuilding old DC-3's and adding turbines.
Excellent!
Firefighters in Oregon, Washington and California please stay safe. May God prosper your labors in extinguishing the fires.
the sign says "hot load" with an arrow pointing to the back....giggity
1am I read this comment and erupt in laughter. 😂 thanks
me to lol
I have the same on the back of my undies.......
And with a name like yours, one can understand lol
My inner Beavis noticed that right away! Heh Heh, Cool, Heh, Heh
THANK YOU FOR SHARE THE DETAIL VIDEO
What a great airplane. I want one of those!
Gorgeous plane
My uncle used to operate fire bombers out of Columbia long long ago
I keep mistaking these for the A-20 Havoc. The news footage doesn't show a good view of the cockpit so I kept going by the tail.
Pepto Bismol works on heartburn and forest burn, who knew?
Ha ha ha🤣
It's like the miniseries "V" in the 1980s - "Red Dust"
Those guys are like nascar turn arounds. Minimal time wasted.
How long does it take to fill the whole tank?
Smoooooooth fast operation!
Wow I had no idea turbo trackers were a thing! Now I know what I want to fly!
These guys work very well and fast I had a wildfire in my city last year and they put it out in under 3 hours even when they ran out of water
I used to live in Calaveras County about 10 minutes away from this airfield and you knew that something was going on when you heard that unmistakable noise from the planes fly overhead.
Awesome Video!
Is that the way we remove the loading hose from the aircraft? We just kick the hose and it falls off ?
Where are the "Super Scoopers"?
I never knew that these are single pic operations. Interesting and probably a lot of fun going quickly in and out.
So very reminiscent of the Air America pilots of the 60's...
Great Video Alan
Brave Dedicated Fire Fighter's & Crews.
Hero’s
where and when do the y fuel up?
Grumman !!!! ❤
Mike owes MCC ice cream!
Turboprop conversion, powered by two Garrett TPE331 engines;[35] A total of 22 are operated by the CDF. Looked like a OV-10 Bronco in the slot at 1:50 to the left of 82's tail. Single pilot with no one in the second seat.
They come in pretty hot to land
Nice tactical landings 😀
I used to load those s-2's as a phos-chek contractor for Hunot Retardant Co.... Great job, good fun
If the S2Fs were called Stoofs would these S2Ts be called Stoots?
Since they're powered by PT6's,
how about Stoops?
I see they are using turbo-Thuds now, instead of the B-26 Marauders...
B-26 Marauders were never used for water bombing. You seem to be confusing the Marauder with the Invader. It’s all due to the Korean War. To start off, I’ll explain the prefix’ for the roles of the aircraft in case you didn’t know. ‘A’ - Attack, ‘B’ - Bomber. Originally the Invader was called the A-26. In World War Two it would complete tasks with attack roles with rockets on the wings and a small bomb load like destroying smaller targets, blocking roads, destroying trains, etc.
All of the confusion was started in 1947 when the designation of the A-26 was changed to the B-26. The prefix in front of ‘26’ to explain its role was changed because, well you can guess it, it was going to be completing bombing roles instead of attack now in Korea. This carried on throughout the Koran war until mid 1955 prior to the Vietnam War. The role of the Invader was to be changed back to the attack role where it would once again just be attacking smaller targets and trails in Vietnam. That basically sums up why some call it the A-26 or B-26. The whole reason it’s so confusing is because during World War Two, there was a whole different type of twin engined bomber called the B-26 (the Marauder) which was when the Invader was called the A-26 in that time frame. So overall to clarify your comment on the “Marauder”, it was never flown as a water bomber, the Invader was. They were both called the B-26 at one point but it all depends on what war they were in.
RIP headphone users Jesus Christ
why? in this video the only sound is the sound of those TPE 331 without stupid relaxing music. Yeah, sounds a little bit loud but its the reality
I miss the good ol days when they didn't have turbo and were super loud, plus painted green.
Which aircraft is it?
Those are Grumman s2t
@@stones2706 thanks for the information
Are those old Navy carrier planes? They look like it and looks like there used to be an arrester hook at the back of the aircraft.
how many liter?
What's the payload with the turbine upgrade?
And what's the average turnaround time on reloading only? What is the endurance time of the S2T?
1200 gallons
Turbo Firecat or Marsh Turbo Trackers .. yes they are retrofits
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conair_Firecat
What’s the turnaround time on this? Touchdown, fill to wheels up?
pretty damn fast
About how much time does it usually take to do a L and R? I assume it varies upon the aircraft type and its holding tank size.
Weldy Media Productions depends on where the fires is no more then a hour
The actual reload once the hose is hooked up is about 5 minutes on these S2-t's.
Is there a public viewing area at this AAB?
The airport at Columbia is a normal small airport in the Sierra Nevada foothills. The AAB is at one end of the field. I've flown in there several times on cross-country flights; when a fire is being actively worked, you just go somewhere else locally until they're done.
Does this chemical contaminate the soil?
Not a single copilot in the bunch. How in the HELL is that not a 2 man job?
Stephen Bradley id say equivalent to a tanker shuttle for normal rural water operations with drop tanks. But instead of tankers its planes. If you have a good operator they should have no problem running solo
Not to mention the obstructed vision looking at the ground @ low level. And another possible fatality in case of a crash.
They run 1 because that’s all that is needed, they already have a look out plane flying in the air a few hundred feet higher than these that directs all incoming planes and he’s considered a look out and helps coordinate where they need to drop.
@@bradgt5130 Interesting thanks!
No more wing folding on these birds?
They can still fold, there just isn't a reason to do it here.
First time I see tanking through the tail
True low level flying.
HOT LOAD
I want to fly that plane
What kind of aircraft this type?
Grumman S2T. Here is a link with more information.
fireaviation.com/tag/s2t/
Syuewei Wang S2
California had a company in Mesa Arizona reconfirgure the Carrier based planes into fire fighting machines. Smart move, they were originally folding wing systems and had out date power plants but they all had a great structural system.
They still have the ability to fold their wings.
"Hot Load"
I do like this paint job/colors much more than the old yellow green 🤢
How many gallons of water does this aircraft can handle?
Gonzalo Andrade about 1200 gallons
Gonzalo Andrade: It's not water, it's fire retardant! Just to let you know!
What they said.....
Are these guys all Naval Aviators ?
mix of civil and mil . mostly civ actually
why US dont buy russian made Be200..or bereve? it is more better than this in fire fighting in massive scale?
The Grumman is American so parts are easier to get. Plus that runway doesn't look big enough for a big aircraft. Plus they are ex-military so probably fairly cheap. Plus they have been using them from the 70s so I guess they work and the pilots know them.
1:58 whoops
Nice pictures of planes taxiing around. Content? Really?
I live at the end of runway 17. See this every fall
They park that plane like park their own cardilac at the garage....
at least someone is dumping hot loads during quarantine... smh
Aprende presidente Bolsonaro!!!!!
I want to touch that pink stuff so bad
If only the didn't have to spend 30 million+ a year on picking up LA homeless peoples shit and syringes they could buy a few more planes....
Very costly toys
As much money as California spends on fighting fires, they could've cleaned the first up probably 10 times over and avoided most forest fires to begin with.
We desperately need REPUBLICANS setting Forest Mgmt. Policy in California.
Vote Deep Red!
Republicans are the ones that cut the budget, so they share a fair part of the situation today.
If you thought the federal government was inefficient, wait till you see the money CalFire throws around.
They seem to provide an exceptionally impressive service with that money.
@@cjeam9199 I've seen crazy things.
8320 wildland fires since the beginning of the year.
It is ridiculous that they aren't flying scooping airplanes. The trackers should have been scrapped years ago. The CL415s can do dozens of drops in the time it takes them to turn around and they can carry a lot more. They are also much more suited to low speed maneuvering.
RV4g: Not ridiculous. C415s are only able to do so when large lakes are available close to the fire. Not hard to find in Canuckistan, but more difficult in California mountains. The S-2 was designed to hunt submarines at 50-100 feet altitude and has 'fighter' type manueverability with boosted ailerons. (I've got 5 hours in a CS-2 with the RCAF).
Plus the scooper are more often used to drop water and foam on fire, where as the S2-t's are mostly used to drop retardant in front of a fire.
If CALFIRE invest so much money into this program they should take one from the military. Retro fit your birds to load up on water and or retardants from aerial tankers. You consider how long it takes to land, reload, fly back,drop and do it all over again you're wasting precious minutes. Be retrofitting your birds and training your pilots CALFIRE could have an almost constant stream of water and retardants on the fire and all they would have to have is the big water tankers above and wait for the birds to move into the stack. If you really want to add flexibility to the fight just keep another tanker with FUEL for them too so they can stay airborne longer. But, that's just little oh me thinking out of the box.
That would be even more expensive, plus extremely dangerous. Even the military only does aerial refueling if they have to. Plus I don't think retardant could be pumped through one of those transfer systems, too thick.
Just skip the aerial filling of the small airplanes from a big one and just use the big one to drop retardant..... Just search for "747 fire retardant drop" But get ready to pay for it
Its actually better to have different sizes. One tanker type can't do all jobs.
A lot of the fires require dropping into areas far too small/short for the big planes to safely work. Back in the '70s a fire being worked north of Napa tasked several S2's, a DC-7 and a PB4Y, depending on the spots needing retardant. The terrain included extremely rugged, tight box canyons, steep slopes, and a few extended open areas at various times. It was impressive to see the Privateer or the DC-7 come over our house at less than 100' (the house was placed on the edge of a ridge looking over the Napa Valley).
As a Fire Captain for CAL FIRE and was the Tanker Base Manger at Columbia I have to give a thumbs down on that idea
Chemtrails!