This was final video before embarking on trouble shooting my 2006 4runner. You did an awesome job with no unnecessary rambling. Thanks for the effort of giving back.
+Lawrence Duncan I have the same issue on my 2006 4runner. Lawrence, can you tell me if you replace the whole canister or just the Purge Control Solenoid? Hope you can help. Thanks.
+John S I actually removed the assy from the rear of the vehicle and cleaned up and blew all out as well as actuated it with power and then re-installed once there appeared to be no obvious failure electrically. I have not had that code again. I found lots of road debris and dirt and feel just cleaning it up and working it, probably stopped what ever was stuck. now I actually have a pressure release when I open the gas cap.
Was recently having trouble fueling up. Found this video and removed the canister with confidence. The charcoal bb’s in my canister had gotten stuck together forming a solid block. I placed the canister in the sun and began using compressed air and a vacuum on the inlet/outlet. Eventually shaking, gently tapping and blowing air broke up the solid mass of bb’s. No problems since i put it back together. Thanks for the excellent video.
When you say you were having trouble fueling up, what exactly did you mean? I have a 2004 Tundra and at various times, I have trouble fueling my truck. Meaning, i have to physically hold the nozzle in the filler neck because it won't keep filling on its own.
@@stevenvarani1823 Hmm, iirc…the pump was clicking off before full. If I tried to force fuel in it would overflow. The charcoal canister was not allowing the tank pressures to equalize as fuel was being pumped in. Result was fuel backing up in filler neck. In addition to above I shook and beat the canister box physically to break them up. Was initially using air because I thought they were waterlogged. Hope it helps.
Your video was a great help to me in fixing my 2002 Tundra. The issue was exactly as you stated, in the 2002 model the canister is mounted under the hood. And as you explained in the video the sensor was the issue. Unfortunately in the 2002 model the going price for the sensor was $221.00 from Advance Auto and $356.00 from the dealership. This was still far less than replacing the entire canister! Thank you for creating and sharing your video!
Marc this video that u made, is one of the best videos that I have seen it show u and explains step by step plus every clear video on what u did , which is every important. Thank u
Excellent vid Marc. Search for P0456,P0455 &P0441 on my '05 Tundra led me here and I'm glad it did. Very informative and well produced for shadetree mechs like me. Really lights up dealer dishonesty & greed. Thanks. Cheers
Thank you Marc .... Awesome .... my only issue was removing the custom hose fitting. Getting the tabs to clear the lip was a problem -- using a small screwdriver, holding your mouth just right, and wiggling the connect finally worked. My solenoid was not operational, but I was able to free it ... at least for the time being. Thank you once again
Marc, thank you for the video because I just had the code PO442 and the dealer wanted me to charge a thousand bucks for the part and labor. Your video is very instructional and can save some money and headaches. Because of your time to put together this video a lot of people know what we’re dealing with and some mechanics won’t charge us crazy amount of money. Thank you and stay safe.
I wanted to thank you for the video. I had an error code P0446 and a pending code of P0441. I thought what a headache! What will I have to replace. Turns out that due to hose hardening and shrinking because of age, the hose going from the evaporate canister to the intake manifold came loose from the manifold. It was clearly hanging free of the manifold connection. As a result I could hear a light ticking sound coming from the nipple on the manifold. I can either replace the hose or put a hose clamp on it. A clamp might eventually crack the hose so replacing it with a new supple hose is the best solution. I am sure I can get generic hose to replace my aging cannister evaporate hoses. I will probably replace all the hoses because this incident pointed out they are clearly aging and will fail sooner or later. So take care of the problem before it is a problem. But putting the hose back on and clearing the codes got rid of the error code.
One of the best most thorough video I’ve watched in some time. I don’t have codes but my tundra won’t take fuel. I watched the whole video and it gave me a great understanding of the part in question. Thank you.
Thanks for the video! Also, it's best to always remove the negative battery cable first (you would only need to do the negative in this case), so that you don't accidentally cause a short. Which could happen if your wrench was on the positive term and the wrench touched any metal of the car.
Great video, but for all of those who are lazy and don't want to go to the dealership, check all your hoses first, make sure there are no cracks by inspecting them or spraying them with soapy water. Then check your gas cap(with OEM parts). And if that doesn't work, then proceed to getting/making a smoke machine. I am currently in the process of trouble shooting this very issue and have replaced the hose that connects to the air filter. It was cracked, but not too hopeful. I did buy a new gas cap from autozone and from what I heard/read sometimes those don't solve the problem, so that would be next. The solenoid that he replaced in the video I swapped it with my dad's 4 runner, and it didn't solve the problem. So far there is no check engine light yet after the hose replacement, but i think it will take some driving time for it to trigger the check engine light.
I liked how rested and relaxed you were when doing this. One thing that I really need to find out which is, can this failure cause increase in gas consumption/// Thanks.. Dec 2019
I can't see how it could increase gas consumption, but I wonder how the solenoid not opening and closing could throw a code. Seems something else would have to sense that no vapors was being sucked into the engine because the solenoid was not opening?
you said that they told you they smoked it and seen smoke at the canister, well the vent solenoid you replaced would show smoke when you smoke it because it is a normally open valve it only closes when specified.
what happpened when you benched the old valve? Im curious to see how it failed. Thanks for the great vid. I Am thinking of taking out the old valve and seeing if it fixes it. but my lines are rusted and I dont want start trying things if i am pretty sure of a fix. don't have a scan tool for a more scientific approach.
Wow, great vid for us tundra owners. $68 compared to shops draining us for $700 to $1000. My 1st evap code turned out to be a gas cap that needed to be replaced. The next evap code, turned out to be a hose on top. Now I have another evap code; problem unknown? I don't know how to do the smoke test! Hmmmm.
Great video and esp' thanks for giving the part number of the evap solenoid. My 03 Tundra is giving a 0442 code and wondering if this points to the specific problem since there are so many possibilities.
Excellent tutorial 👍🏼👍🏼 Does anyone know if simply having JBA headers and a Flowmaster exhaust would effect the sensor? My 03 SR5 had the light on when I got it with only 16k miles on it and if I remember correctly, I was told the light was on because of the mod. It now has 97k and still runs like it did when I got it.
You might find this interesting but I've been a Toyota mechanic for quite a while now. The variation and price of Parts because the parts managers will put whatever kind of markup they feel like. For instance at my dealership they mark things up 100%...it's kind of ridiculous. I can almost gurantee the cheap quote you got was gonna be a cheap aftermarket canister, and they wouldnt have told you. Laslty, the misdiagnosis is probably due to the technician only performing the Toyota scan tool self test (lazy person) and taking a guess. Its unfortunate to say this, but my complete diagnosis of problems down to bench testing and verifying has set me apart as "one of our best techs". The pure commission structure of our pay leads to people always in a rush to fix a car, and taking guesses.
P0440 on my 2001 Tundra. Will have to check the cannister inside the engine bay and see what's going on. I was concerned at first that the gas filter I recently replaced, I had done it incorrectly, but fuel flow hasn't been a problem since the replacement, and my truck idles well. So most likely what I have is evap and not fuel related. I'll try to troubleshoot it this weekend!
Thanks for so useful video! Could you please tell do you know by chance what is the name of the following spare part: the metal lid (cap) that protects the evap canister from the road rocks? I don't have one on my 2007 Toyota Tundra, might need to order that on eBay to protect the canister from the possible future damages from the road hazards. But I don't know the name of the spare part to order...
hi marc my 02 sequoia didn't show codes but only the smell of unburnt fuel I have replaced all inj.seals and fuel cap, correct me if I'm wrong but my next guess would be the purge valve that's located under the hood
@@bennymozzarella1605 no I never had a chance to go that far, vehicle was totalled at around 200k miles by a driver texting I'd buy another Toyota/Lexus again very minor issue with their products even as they age and they hold their value ,happy new year 🎉
@@lvsurfcat8584 I am fond of Toyota, but seeing how they lied to this guy in the video matches the crap you get when you go in for work to be done. I've heard they don't fix specific items on the EVAP, --they want to install a new complete canister for $1500 rather than try to isolate the problem and fix only that item. That gets poor ratings from me .
Great video. Thanks for making it so straight forward. I would like to know how you got the once hose off that has the plastic clip that snaps back on. I was quoted $1100 to replace the whole canister. Seems like a lot. Thank you.
+John S Just squeeze the sides of the hose connector to clear the retaining lip and pull. There's another video that covers the removal just past the 2 minute mark. ruclips.net/video/PvoLV8Qr4N4/видео.html
SO I wanted to ask after driving the truck for a while did the codes or a single code come back. I have been chasing the same codes for 2 months. replace the charcoal filter, dropped the fuel tank and replace a sensor and resealed the fuel pump. also replaced the gas cap and still have one code. PO442. any thoughts?
I was wondering the same thing, if this solved the problem long term because I can clear my 0442 code and drive for 300 or more miles before it comes back on...so you think right away you got it fixed, but not long term. There are so many other places that could be causing the problem( cracks in hoses, clogged up canister, bad ESV solenoid on the vacuum line to the motor Etc). Did you ever solve your issue?
How to remove the "custom" evap hose clamp? I'm messing with it, and it's not obvious to me what to do. Nothing depresses on the "clamp." And it doesn't feel like it's going to slide off with just pressure.
I ended up removing the solenoid w/o taking this hose off. Also, on mine there is a bolt that attaches a bracket to the cover. The bolt has to be removed from above the cover. It turns out if I had known what it was (i.e. could see it, maybe I could have slid the bracket off and not removed the bolt.
Question: I got the same error code for my check engine light. Will it be ok to drive the truck for a while if I don't treat this specific problem right away?? Or will it be catastrophic for the engine?? Any info appreciated. Thanks!
I bought a new gas cap and the light went away, although I can't say for sure that this was the fix. My car friend told me that gas caps do wear out and the seal was probably leaking which turned the light on. I was also told not to top off when gassing up as this wears down the gas cap seals faster.
unfortunately i had this pop up on my 2002 tundra today... im in DFW too so tempted to ask if you would like to meetup and do a pressure test for leaks and if I just need the solenoid
This was final video before embarking on trouble shooting my 2006 4runner. You did an awesome job with no unnecessary rambling. Thanks for the effort of giving back.
+Lawrence Duncan
I have the same issue on my 2006 4runner. Lawrence, can you tell me if you replace the whole canister or just the Purge Control Solenoid? Hope you can help. Thanks.
+John S Test the Purge Control Solenoid and replace independently as required.
+John S I actually removed the assy from the rear of the vehicle and cleaned up and blew all out as well as actuated it with power and then re-installed once there appeared to be no obvious failure electrically. I have not had that code again. I found lots of road debris and dirt and feel just cleaning it up and working it, probably stopped what ever was stuck. now I actually have a pressure release when I open the gas cap.
+Lawrence Duncan Thank you for the info, I will certainly try that first.
Was recently having trouble fueling up. Found this video and removed the canister with confidence. The charcoal bb’s in my canister had gotten stuck together forming a solid block. I placed the canister in the sun and began using compressed air and a vacuum on the inlet/outlet. Eventually shaking, gently tapping and blowing air broke up the solid mass of bb’s. No problems since i put it back together. Thanks for the excellent video.
When you say you were having trouble fueling up, what exactly did you mean? I have a 2004 Tundra and at various times, I have trouble fueling my truck. Meaning, i have to physically hold the nozzle in the filler neck because it won't keep filling on its own.
@@stevenvarani1823 Hmm, iirc…the pump was clicking off before full. If I tried to force fuel in it would overflow. The charcoal canister was not allowing the tank pressures to equalize as fuel was being pumped in. Result was fuel backing up in filler neck. In addition to above I shook and beat the canister box physically to break them up. Was initially using air because I thought they were waterlogged. Hope it helps.
Your video was a great help to me in fixing my 2002 Tundra. The issue was exactly as you stated, in the 2002 model the canister is mounted under the hood. And as you explained in the video the sensor was the issue. Unfortunately in the 2002 model the going price for the sensor was $221.00 from Advance Auto and $356.00 from the dealership. This was still far less than replacing the entire canister! Thank you for creating and sharing your video!
Marc this video that u made, is one of the best videos that I have seen it show u and explains step by step plus every clear video on what u did , which is every important.
Thank u
Excellent vid Marc.
Search for P0456,P0455 &P0441 on my '05 Tundra led me here and I'm glad it did. Very informative and well produced for shadetree mechs like me. Really lights up dealer dishonesty & greed. Thanks.
Cheers
A tip : watch movies on flixzone. Been using them for watching lots of of movies lately.
@Ricky Anthony Yea, have been watching on flixzone} for months myself =)
@Ricky Anthony yup, have been watching on flixzone} for since november myself :D
Where is the box located on the truck? I have an 04 tundra
@@Go_eagles94 what box?🤷♂
Very thorough explanation of that Evaporative System Repair P0441. Thanks for making this video.
Well done! Thanks for the video. Your tip on the solenoid is especially helpful and your description of testing the canister itself was terrific.
Thank you Marc .... Awesome .... my only issue was removing the custom hose fitting. Getting the tabs to clear the lip was a problem -- using a small screwdriver, holding your mouth just right, and wiggling the connect finally worked.
My solenoid was not operational, but I was able to free it ... at least for the time being.
Thank you once again
It's great to see where the cannister is. I got some confidence now. Gracias.
Marc, thank you for the video because I just had the code PO442 and the dealer wanted me to charge a thousand bucks for the part and labor. Your video is very instructional and can save some money and headaches. Because of your time to put together this video a lot of people know what we’re dealing with and some mechanics won’t charge us crazy amount of money. Thank you and stay safe.
I wanted to thank you for the video. I had an error code P0446 and a pending code of P0441. I thought what a headache! What will I have to replace. Turns out that due to hose hardening and shrinking because of age, the hose going from the evaporate canister to the intake manifold came loose from the manifold. It was clearly hanging free of the manifold connection. As a result I could hear a light ticking sound coming from the nipple on the manifold. I can either replace the hose or put a hose clamp on it. A clamp might eventually crack the hose so replacing it with a new supple hose is the best solution. I am sure I can get generic hose to replace my aging cannister evaporate hoses. I will probably replace all the hoses because this incident pointed out they are clearly aging and will fail sooner or later. So take care of the problem before it is a problem. But putting the hose back on and clearing the codes got rid of the error code.
One of the best most thorough video I’ve watched in some time. I don’t have codes but my tundra won’t take fuel. I watched the whole video and it gave me a great understanding of the part in question. Thank you.
I think mines doing the same thing, getting gas is a pain
Thanks for the video!
Also, it's best to always remove the negative battery cable first (you would only need to do the negative in this case), so that you don't accidentally cause a short. Which could happen if your wrench was on the positive term and the wrench touched any metal of the car.
thanks for a great video. really is nice when DIY's give back.
Great video. Dealerships are such crooks. Thanks for sharing.
Great video, but for all of those who are lazy and don't want to go to the dealership, check all your hoses first, make sure there are no cracks by inspecting them or spraying them with soapy water. Then check your gas cap(with OEM parts). And if that doesn't work, then proceed to getting/making a smoke machine. I am currently in the process of trouble shooting this very issue and have replaced the hose that connects to the air filter. It was cracked, but not too hopeful. I did buy a new gas cap from autozone and from what I heard/read sometimes those don't solve the problem, so that would be next. The solenoid that he replaced in the video I swapped it with my dad's 4 runner, and it didn't solve the problem. So far there is no check engine light yet after the hose replacement, but i think it will take some driving time for it to trigger the check engine light.
I liked how rested and relaxed you were when doing this. One thing that I really need to find out which is, can this failure cause increase in gas consumption/// Thanks.. Dec 2019
I can't see how it could increase gas consumption, but I wonder how the solenoid not opening and closing could throw a code. Seems something else would have to sense that no vapors was being sucked into the engine because the solenoid was not opening?
Great video, easy to follow and very informative. Thanks for taking your time to do this.
I am amazed how easy this was to do myself! Thank you thank you thank you
You are a gentleman and a scholar. Excellent video!
you said that they told you they smoked it and seen smoke at the canister, well the vent solenoid you replaced would show smoke when you smoke it because it is a normally open valve it only closes when specified.
what happpened when you benched the old valve? Im curious to see how it failed. Thanks for the great vid. I Am thinking of taking out the old valve and seeing if it fixes it. but my lines are rusted and I dont want start trying things if i am pretty sure of a fix. don't have a scan tool for a more scientific approach.
Very very informative video sir
2002 4runner but now I have idea on how to do it including how to test canister and valve. Thank you for the informative video
Wow, great vid for us tundra owners. $68 compared to shops draining us for $700 to $1000. My 1st evap code turned out to be a gas cap that needed to be replaced. The next evap code, turned out to be a hose on top. Now I have another evap code; problem unknown? I don't know how to do the smoke test! Hmmmm.
Great video and esp' thanks for giving the part number of the evap solenoid. My 03 Tundra is giving a 0442 code and wondering if this points to the specific problem since there are so many possibilities.
Marc thank you for the vid. Diagnosing my lexus sc 430 now..This vid helped so much!
Very clear and informative. Thanks
You are a great mechanic
Did you experience smelling gas after you drove it?
My 2003 tundra 4.7L has a evap issue but i also smell gas after drove it
Excellent tutorial 👍🏼👍🏼 Does anyone know if simply having JBA headers and a Flowmaster exhaust would effect the sensor? My 03 SR5 had the light on when I got it with only 16k miles on it and if I remember correctly, I was told the light was on because of the mod. It now has 97k and still runs like it did when I got it.
Very helpful video! Thanks!
Thanks for you videos very helpful.
Man! You must be in really good shape how you tighten those bots lol! Just kidding!
Really good explanation of the whole process.
Great video! Thank you. Where did you get that diagram from??
You might find this interesting but I've been a Toyota mechanic for quite a while now. The variation and price of Parts because the parts managers will put whatever kind of markup they feel like. For instance at my dealership they mark things up 100%...it's kind of ridiculous. I can almost gurantee the cheap quote you got was gonna be a cheap aftermarket canister, and they wouldnt have told you. Laslty, the misdiagnosis is probably due to the technician only performing the Toyota scan tool self test (lazy person) and taking a guess. Its unfortunate to say this, but my complete diagnosis of problems down to bench testing and verifying has set me apart as "one of our best techs". The pure commission structure of our pay leads to people always in a rush to fix a car, and taking guesses.
Sad! Thanks for being a good tech.
Good diy. Most emission components are warranted for some years.
P0440 on my 2001 Tundra. Will have to check the cannister inside the engine bay and see what's going on. I was concerned at first that the gas filter I recently replaced, I had done it incorrectly, but fuel flow hasn't been a problem since the replacement, and my truck idles well. So most likely what I have is evap and not fuel related. I'll try to troubleshoot it this weekend!
I really really APPRECIATE YOU!!
Thanks for so useful video! Could you please tell do you know by chance what is the name of the following spare part: the metal lid (cap) that protects the evap canister from the road rocks? I don't have one on my 2007 Toyota Tundra, might need to order that on eBay to protect the canister from the possible future damages from the road hazards. But I don't know the name of the spare part to order...
How much current did you use to energize the solenoid?
Great tips thanks
There about 350 on rock auto now. Ive been fighting a 0441 and a 0136 now driving me nuts changed almost all my hoses. Might try a smoke test
Great job . Thank you so much for posting it.
Very helpful. Thank you.
Good stuff man! Thanks for posting!
Nice , good work!
Thank you. I have a PO441 and PO446. Was that 12v you used for the valve test?
hi marc my 02 sequoia didn't show codes but only the smell of unburnt fuel I have replaced all inj.seals and fuel cap, correct me if I'm wrong but my next guess would be the purge valve that's located under the hood
Did you ever figure out the smell of unburned gas? Im having the same issue?
@@bennymozzarella1605 no I never had a chance to go that far, vehicle was totalled at around 200k miles by a driver texting I'd buy another Toyota/Lexus again very minor issue with their products even as they age and they hold their value ,happy new year 🎉
@@lvsurfcat8584 definitely, thank you for the response hopefully i can get this figured out thanks
@@lvsurfcat8584 I am fond of Toyota, but seeing how they lied to this guy in the video matches the crap you get when you go in for work to be done. I've heard they don't fix specific items on the EVAP, --they want to install a new complete canister for $1500 rather than try to isolate the problem and fix only that item. That gets poor ratings from me .
great tutorial. thank you for giving back!
Thank you for the information 👍🏻.
I have a 2002 tundra. was wondering if the problem affected your gas milage? mine has gone down from about 15 overall to 12 . thanks
Cool but after replacing it and reset the code, engine light still comes back.
And ideas or others suggestions?
Thanks
Great video. Thanks for making it so straight forward. I would like to know how you got the once hose off that has the plastic clip that snaps back on. I was quoted $1100 to replace the whole canister. Seems like a lot. Thank you.
+John S Just squeeze the sides of the hose connector to clear the retaining lip and pull. There's another video that covers the removal just past the 2 minute mark. ruclips.net/video/PvoLV8Qr4N4/видео.html
+Marc Klemp Thank you!
very helpful, well done
SO I wanted to ask after driving the truck for a while did the codes or a single code come back. I have been chasing the same codes for 2 months. replace the charcoal filter, dropped the fuel tank and replace a sensor and resealed the fuel pump. also replaced the gas cap and still have one code. PO442. any thoughts?
I was wondering the same thing, if this solved the problem long term because I can clear my 0442 code and drive for 300 or more miles before it comes back on...so you think right away you got it fixed, but not long term. There are so many other places that could be causing the problem( cracks in hoses, clogged up canister, bad ESV solenoid on the vacuum line to the motor Etc). Did you ever solve your issue?
sometimes after market gas cap doesn't solve the problem, try using OEM.
Outstanding!
How to remove the "custom" evap hose clamp? I'm messing with it, and it's not obvious to me what to do. Nothing depresses on the "clamp." And it doesn't feel like it's going to slide off with just pressure.
I ended up removing the solenoid w/o taking this hose off. Also, on mine there is a bolt that attaches a bracket to the cover. The bolt has to be removed from above the cover. It turns out if I had known what it was (i.e. could see it, maybe I could have slid the bracket off and not removed the bolt.
Question: I got the same error code for my check engine light. Will it be ok to drive the truck for a while if I don't treat this specific problem right away?? Or will it be catastrophic for the engine?? Any info appreciated. Thanks!
pingvuiini im having the same problem today. what was the answer or solution?
I bought a new gas cap and the light went away, although I can't say for sure that this was the fix. My car friend told me that gas caps do wear out and the seal was probably leaking which turned the light on. I was also told not to top off when gassing up as this wears down the gas cap seals faster.
pingvuiini after a week and a half it went off without any fix.... strange...
This evap canister could be found on eBay for 250$ new and around 120$ used .
unfortunately i had this pop up on my 2002 tundra today... im in DFW too so tempted to ask if you would like to meetup and do a pressure test for leaks and if I just need the solenoid
Thank you I have same problem and there are no videos
What a ripoff lying dealership. I've encounted some in my area
Me too guess I was naivete but once + done that never again.
Fixed the po442 and 456 working on a po448 it is a tuf one
25 psi even sounds like quite a lot on a container with a flat side like that.. operating vacuum is tiny.
When you removed that was their gass poring out
Great video.
Gas tank had to be removed my ass, fucking stealerships.
Its the Roll Over valve dammit !!
Not a lot of fun.......The first bolt snapped removing the bracket so I decided to eliminate that step.......a real PITA
БЫЛ БЫ ПЕРЕВОД БЫЛО БЫ ОТЛИЧНО !!!
From bid D also
go to pick a part, thats only 80 bucks or less...dealership is a joke,,,
Thanks for the good video, save me time to take my truck to the shop and save me a lot of money. Thanks again
My 03 tundra has these 3 codes:: P0442 P0441 P0446
Did you fix it + if so how ?
Can you talk a little bit faster
Put it on 2x speed jackass
I am amazed how easy this was to do myself! Thank you thank you thank you