Atheist Experience 23.39 with Matt Dillahunty & Gayle Jordan
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- 12:15 John: CT: Poke Holes in My Arguments to Make Me Leave Catholicism
29:15 Aaron: PA: Finding a Secular Sobriety Alternative to AA
38:10 AC: IL: Atheism is Dead and Not Possible by Logic, Something from Nothing
1:05:15 Ron: San Antonio, TX: Argument from Design, Tricks vs Reality, Flat Earth (Prank Call)
1:14:55 Dale: OH: I Found the Garden of Eden on Google Maps, Try Debunking Me
1:20:45 Mojo: UK: “Atheist Scientists” Are Rejecting Intelligent Design and Ruining Science
1:22:55 Oliver: WA: Belief vs Knowledge, Recovering from Religion Support
1:29:10 Guillermo: CA: Doesn’t Saying “Oh My God” Mean You Believe?
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12:15 John: CT: Poke Holes in My Arguments to Make Me Leave Catholicism
29:15 Aaron: PA: Finding a Secular Sobriety Alternative to AA
38:10 AC: IL: Atheism is Dead and Not Possible by Logic, Something from Nothing
1:05:15 Ron: San Antonio, TX: Argument from Design, Tricks vs Reality, Flat Earth (Prank Call)
1:14:55 Dale: OH: I Found the Garden of Eden on Google Maps, Try Debunking Me
1:20:45 Mojo: UK: “Atheist Scientists” Are Rejecting Intelligent Design and Ruining Science
1:22:55 Oliver: WA: Belief vs Knowledge, Recovering from Religion Support
1:29:10 Guillermo: CA: Doesn’t Saying “Oh My God” Mean You Believe?
This is good service, thanks TAE!
●WE LIVE ON A FLAT STATIONARY PLANE WITH A FIRMAMENT ABOVE.
ITS A CLOSED SYSTEM. WE CANNOT LEAVE THE EARTH. THEYVE NEVER BEEN TO SPACE. NOTHING GOES IN OR OUT OF THE FIRMAMENT.
THE ROTATING GLOBE IS A LIE!
WHY? TO MAKE US FEEL INSIGNIFICANT. THEYRE HIDING CREATION/INTELLIGENT DESIGN.
THE GOLDEN RATIO AND FLOWER OF LIFE PROVE ITS INTELLIGENT DESIGN.
A FLAT STATIONARY PLANE WITH A FIRMAMENT ABOVE PROVES ITS INTELLIGENT DESIGN.
●"WHAT ABOUT METEORS?"
ALL CRATERS ARE ROUND, THEREFORE ALL METEORS WOULD HAVE TO IMPACT AT A PERFECT 90 DEGREES. THIS ASTRONOMICALLY AND MATHEMATICALLY IMPOSSIBALL!
ESPECIALLY IF WE ARE SUPPOSEDLY ROTATING 1000 MILES AN HOUR. HURLING THROUGH SPACE SPIRALING AROUND THE SUN AT 36,000 MILES AN HOUR IN A GALAXY MOVING 1.3 MILLION MILES AN HOUR THROUGH THE UNIVERSE. I MEAN TALK ABOUT A MOVING TARGET! LOL
NOPE! THEY JUST WANT US TO THINK CRATERS ARE CAUSED BY OBJECTS FROM FAKE SPACE. (WE ARE PROTECTED IN A CLOSED SYSTEM)
CRATERS ARE REALLY WHERE GIANT TREES/TREE STUMPS ONCE STOOD!
●THE SUN AND MOON ARE LOCAL LUMINARIES. THE SUN IS NOT 93 MILLION MILES AWAY. THE MOON IS NOT 250+ THOUSAND MILES AWAY. THE MOON IS SELF ILLUMINATING. THE PHASES OCCUR REGARDLESS OF THE SUNS POSITION.
I DONT THINK THE MOON IS EVEN A SOLID SPHERICAL OBJECT EITHER.
THE SUN IS MORE CONSISTENT WITH THAT OF A HEAT LAMP.
●WATER WOULD HAVE TO FLOW UP HILL FOR A GLOBE TO WORK. "THERE IS NO UPHILL ON A GLOBE" SAYS GLOBERS. GIVEN THAT LOGIC , THERES NO DOWN HILL ON A GLOBE EITHER. WHY WOULD WATER FLOW AT ALL? CANT HAVE IT BOTH WAYS. IF IT WERE A GLOBE ROTATING ON AN AXIS 1000 MILES AN HOUR AND HURLING THROUGH SPACE TOWARDS POLARIS THEN NORTH IS TOP/ FRONT ... EQUATOR IS THE CENTRE/MIDDLE AND SOUTH IS BOTTOM /BACK ... THE EARTHS MOTION WOULD CAUSE DIRECTIONAL ORIENTATION...
WE ALL KNOW THE EQUATOR IS THE CENTRE / MIDDLE. .. THEN WE ARE SUPPOSEDLY ROTATING 1000 MILES AN HOUR ON AN AXIS WHICH MEANS CENTRIFUGAL FORCE IS GREATEST AT THE EQUATOR.
THE IMAGINARY FORCE YOU REFER TO AS GRAVITY WOULD GRADUALLY GET STRONGER TOWARDS THE POLES .
ITS AN "OBLATE SPHEROID"... "PEAR SHAPED" ... "A LITTLE CHUBBIER BELOW THE EQUATOR" ...
THEN ON TOP OF THAT THE EARTH IS HURLING THROUGH THE GALAXY AND SPIRALING AROUND THE SUN AT 37,000 MILES AN HOUR TOWARDS POLARIS. .. NORTH BOUND! NORTH IS FRONT!
THE PHYSICS WOULD BE LIKE A WET FOOTBALL SPIRALING THROUGH THE AIR. WATER WOULD MOVE FRONT TO BACK ...NORTH TO SOUTH... AND BE THROWN OFF AT THE CENTRE/ MIDPOINT / EQUATOR .
NILE RIVER IS OVER 4200 MILES LONG AND FLOWS FROM SOUTH TO NORTH.
THE NILE RIVER WOULD HAVE 572 MILES OF CURVATURE AT ITS MIDPOINT (APEX)
THEREFORE THE NILE RIVER WOULD HAVE TO FLOW UP AND OVER 572 MILES OF CURVATURE OVER A DISTANCE OF 4200+ MILES ON A BALL.
THE NILE RIVER WOULD HAVE TO FLOW UP HILL BEGINNING SOUTH OF THE EQUATOR,CROSSING OVER THE EQUATOR AND CONTINUE NORTH DESPITE THE ENTENSELY STRONG CENTRIFUGAL FORCE . IMPOSSIBALL!
●THE SUPPOSED CURVATURE IS 8 INCHES PER MILE SQUARED. ..
1) BEDFORD EXPERIMENT PROVES NO CURVATURE.
2) TORONTO ROGERS CENTRE SEEN FROM GRIMSBY 6FT ABOVE LAKE LEVEL FROM 30.84 MILES AWAY PROVES THERES NO CURVATURE. TOP OF THE ROGERS CENTRE SHOULD BE OVER 200FT BELOW THE SUPPOSED.
3) CHICAGO IS SEEN FROM MICHIGAN.THIS PROVES THERES NO CURVATURE. OBSERVER IS 6FT TALL. SO 6FT ABOVE LAKE LEVEL.60 MILES AWAY.CHICAGO SHOULD BE 2166FT BELOW THE SUPPOSED CURVATURE.
4) THE LONGEST CANAL IN THE WORLD IS 100 MILES LONG BUT NOT A SINGLE LOCH WAS USED. NO CURVATURE NO GLOBE!
5) LONGEST BRIDGE IN THE WORLD IS 102 MILES LONG. SHOULD BE ALMOST 7000 FT OF CURVATURE IN THAT BRIDGE. NO CURVATURE NO GLOBE!
6) LAKE PONTCHATRAIN BRIDGE IS 24 MILES LONG AND COMPLETELY LEVEL AND BUILT OVER WATER THE ENTIRE 24 MILES. ONLY 2 INCHES LOWER ON ONE SIDE . 2 INCHES IN 24 MILES??? NO CURVATURE NO GLOBE!
7) EXALT WIRELESS WORKS BY LINE OF SIGHT OVER A DISTANCE OF 146 MILES ACROSS THE MEDITERRANEAN SEA. THE TOWERS ARE NO MORE THAN 50FT HIGH. IMPOSSIBLE ON A GLOBE! PROOF OF FLAT EARTH!
8) SASKATCHEWAN. .. SALT FLATS OF BOLIVIA. .. KANSAS .... ALL FLAT FOR HUNDREDS OF MILES!
9) LIGHTHOUSES ARE SEEN FROM IMPOSSIBLE DISTANCES. LIGHTHOUSES WORK BY LINE OF SIGHT!
10) LASER GUIDANCE SYSTEMS WORK USING LINE OF SIGHT!
●SEA (LEVEL). .. AIR (PLANE)... PLANE (T) ..PLANE & LEVEL MEAN FLAT!
●THERES ABSOLUTELY NO PROOF OF A GLOBE ROTATING IN SPACE. NOT A SINGLE REAL IMAGE/FOOTAGE. NONE!
MOON LANDING WAS A HOAX.
ISS LIVE STREAMS ARE OBVIOUSLY FAKE AND FILMED IN STUDIOS.
ISS=IN SOME STUDIO.
HARNESSES, GREEN/BLUE SCREENS, CGI, UNDER WATER , AIR BUBBLES, FLY ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE ISS WINDOW. ETC
WE LIVE ON A FLAT STATIONARY PLANE WITH A FIRMAMENT ABOVE. THEYVE NEVER BEEN TO SPACE. ITS A CLOSED SYSTEM. WE CANNOT LEAVE THE EARTH. SPACE IS WATER.
●"GRAVITY" IS AN UNPROVEN THEORY. IT DOESNT EXIST. ITS A PATHETIC DESPERATE ATTEMPT TO EXPLAIN HOW EVERYTHING STICKS TO A BALL ROTATING AND FLYING THROUGH A "VACUUM OF SPACE".
ITS REALLY JUST DENSITY AND BOYEUNCY. WEIGHT. UP AND DOWN. LIGHTER THAN AIR AND HEAVIER THAN AIR. JUST MOLECULES INTERACTING WITH EACH OTHER.
FOR EXAMPLE-THE MOLECULES IN A ROCK ARE MORE DENSE THE MOLECULES IN THE AIR. THEREFORE THE ROCK FALLS THROUGH THE AIR TO THE GROUND. SIMPLE.
TO ALL YOU TROLLS - (WE DONT LIVE IN A VACUUM CHAMBER.A VACUUM ISNT A NATURAL STATE) WHAT SEPERATES THIS VACUUM FROM EARTH ATMOSPHERE? "GRAVITY" ?? LOL
●WERNHER VON BRAUN (NASA MANAGER / ROCKET SCIENTIST) HAS PSALMS 19:1 ENGRAVED ON HIS HEADSTONE.
PSALMS 19:1 TALKS ABOUT GOD AND THE FIRMAMENT.
SEARCH-SPRITES PROVE THE FIRMAMENT!
ROCKETS HAVE HIT THE FIRMAMENT!
SEARCH-ROCKET SLAMS INTO THE DOME (FIRMAMENT)
SEARCH-"METEOR" HITTING THE FIRMAMENT.
●MOUNTAINS ARE GIANT PETRIFIED TREE STUMPS. DEVILS TOWER FOR EXAMPLE. THE INDIVIDUAL HEXAGONAL COLUMNS ARE PLANT FIBRES!
●WITH ALL THAT BEING SAID...
IVE SEEN THE FLOWER OF LIFE WITH MY OWN 2 EYES.
THE FLAT STATIONARY PLANE WITH A FIRMAMENT ABOVE IS THE VIRTUAL REALITY WE EXPERIENCE DAY TO DAY. ITS AN ILLUSION. A MATRIX / SIMULATION .. OUR BODIES ARE AVATARS. OUR EYES VIRTUAL REALITY GLASSES. ATOMS ARE 99.999% EMPTY SPACE. ATOMS ARE PIXELS GENERATING / PROJECTING 3D IMAGES IN A 4D REALM. EVERYTHING WE SEE IN OUR DAY TO DAY LIVES. ITS ALL AN ILLUSION!
TROLLS / SHILLS CAN TAKE A HIKE! LOL
At 59:00 Matt talks about a video he's made about the labels (hard/soft atheism, gnostic/agnostic, etc) can you link me to this video?
@@TerryUniGeezerPeterson I proved it in my comment in all capitals.
Just about Every point I made was a rebuttal to mainstream pseudo science.
I take Glober explanations and disprove them.
The main one being the total lack of curvature. I gave multiple examples proving there's no curvature.
You obviously didn't read my comment whatsoever.
Read it and reply with rebuttals.
Prove a Rotating globe you're at it. Ill be waiting. No ? That's what I thougt!
@@TerryUniGeezerPeterson Nobel prize is only given to frauds / pseudo sciende "scientists". Lol
As an ex Muslim I'm really glad that I found this channel. I know the topics discussed here primarily focus on Christianity but honestly Christianity and Islam are completely interchangeable. Still I'm amazed to see people so freely speaking on this matter. I'm afraid for my life in a so called secular country like Bangladesh to express my thoughts. Thanks for everything you do for us Matt.
I hope your using a fake name
@@daviddupree3242 No worries. I'm from a rather undeveloped third world country so not many of my family use the internet.
We here in the west have it so much better in that regard. I wish I could wave my hand to give you the freedom to express yourself there as we do here. My heart breaks to hear the terror, trauma and fear of death that folks like you have to endure just because you don't believe in a fairy tale. I hope you eventually end up somewhere where you can be free from religion. All my best to you.
Secular is just a Word in Subcontinent. They have killed a Hindu who said Mo....had was G.y man.
God lovers keep on killing in his(unknown) name and they are proud of it.
Situation is Critical for Humanity
just because of people of God. 😠😠😠😠😠😠😠
Taseen.. congrats..spread this to all your friends wherever possible..
WOW! WOW! WOW! Gayle is very good, reasonable, thoughtful and intelligent. I wish Gayle would be a regular on this show.
As I understand it she's a busy woman, I doubt that "Atheist Of The Year" is an easy award to get.
Jesus is YOUR God!
@David Anewman W'hell, then, David, you should be atheist of the year by now!
@@ajoakley9651 Prove It :)
One nation UNDER GOD, IN GOD WE TRUST, evolution is JUST an OPNION!!!!
"I would rather have questions that can't be answered than answers that can't be questioned.” - Richard Feynman
Gotta love it when someone thinks quoting someone else is "lying", and then pretends that public education is a bad thing.
@@andybeans5790 He's not ok mentally. He read my handle as "First Lady" and asked me first lady of what? I muted him because I just don't have the time. Start the reply clock at 30 minutes, 29, 28...
@David Anewman Folks, this is what religion does to people.
@@blankaccount5073 atheism is the opposite of theism. There are theists with no religious affiliation, therefore religion(s) are a subset of theism... thus atheism cannot by definition be a religion. It's called a false equivalence.
Ironically, Christianity has a reputation among many as not being open to question. However, my perspective as a (former) public school teacher and a Christian is that we give 'evidence' for evolution in our public schools, then tell the kids that they should believe it. The message: "Think as you are told." I was fired for presenting the creation model. "The kids are impressionable," said the principal. Oh really? Maybe we should teach them how to think!
Yet, Jesus Christ is the light of the world.
Lmao "when I say holy cow that doesnt mean I'm hindu" 😂😂😂😂
When I say today is Tuesday it doesn't mean I believe in the Norse god Tiw.
To the alcoholic caller... I'm a non-practicing alcoholic(going on 10 years) and I found the hardest hurdle was admitting that I'm worth it. I'm worth a sober life. Deciding to live sober was one hell of a self-centered and selfish decision and it should be.
The other thing to say is that in AA the higher power (or god) is whatever you want it to be. I've heard 'god' referred to as a 'Group Of Drunks'. They should not be saying anything about any specific religion. It is supposed to be independent of any religion and a 'spiritual' program.
@@mtbee9641 AA is not a very good recommendation, and is full of religious junk.
@@davidh5020 AA does work fro some people. I'm not in AA but have friends who are. If you just take the term 'god' as being whatever you want it to mean then the program can work for you. It's not for everyone but there are people who it has helped. There are few other choices out there!
@@davidh5020 You do know that there are AA agnostic meetings. There has never been any religious affiliation in AA. Your higher power can be anything that helps you stay sober.
@@story1951 People have to understand that there is a progression to sobriety. The first step is to want to stop. The second step is to decide how to stop or get arrested 'like me' and spend a few days in jail and land in emergency with a grand mal seizure. The third step is to stop. The fourth step is to forget out all those plans and grasp onto anything that will keep you sober. The fifth step is to hold on until the screaming and crying and anger and sleepless nights stop. The rest is slowly returning to a normality that you've never really known... Every step is terrifying BTW.
So God shows the first caller synchronicity instances but tolerates little children around the world getting molested and didn't even put a rule against it in his big book. Awesome.
The book was written by ppl who fucked children i doubt it
@The Skeptic Philosopher slavery is omitted from the bible? What?
Yeah, that's exactly why I regard religion as egocentric and silly.
God helps Christians in the West to find their car keys or to get that job they want, but for some reason he won't lift a finger to help starving children or genocide victims.
Ridiculously egotistical and self-centred.
@The Skeptic Philosopher except slavery is explicitly given rules, terms and conditions in Exodus. Your comment was that slavery was a deliberate omission from the bible to which I contested.
Obviously I agree to your point there, it makes sense from a critical thought perspective to outlaw such behaviour, but it's not outlawed and in fact encouraged in the text.
Let’s remember that rape isn’t in their list of 10 things He does not want Christians to do either.
I'm fortunate in that the religion I abandoned was Mormonism. They don't believe in hell. If I'm wrong, the worst that will happen is that I'll end up in Walmart heaven instead of Tiffany's.
rationalguy Walmart is hell. Lol
Walmart Heaven, well...at least it’s not K-Mart Heaven, so you dodged a bullet there.
Well that's also false logic. Like some convoluted backwards Pascal's wager.
If it turns out you are wrong to not believe...that doesn't in any way mean your previous particular belief is then correct. It is not a binary choice.
You could be wrong about your non belief and the Mormons could also be wrong about their belief and the correct belief could involve hell or something vastly worse than hell. Every religious belief ever published could be incorrect....but there still could be a god and you still could go to some version of hell. It could be that every person goes to hell, it could be that only believers go to hell. You actually have no idea how some god might work or how it worked in the past or how it may work in the future.
@@downwinder3 Of course you are correct, hypothetically. But you don't know any more than I about what happens after we're dead. It's just that I go by hard evidence and science, while you appear to be marginally clinging to faith and mythology. I'll take my chances.
@@loki6626 RAMEN!!!
Haven't seen Gayle before, I was very impressed with her steady reason and her compassion for those struggling with indoctrination.
@@blankaccount5073 A fallacy much used by religious nuts such as yourself, when backed into an intellectual corner.
@@blankaccount5073 No you.
You're both idiots double 180 fallacy.
Lmao
@@blankaccount5073 Not really a hater. Your postings are like static on a telephone line or dust on an lp: somewhat annoying but not actually attributing to, nor truly disturbing the discussion or the enjoyment of the music.
Ms. Jordan..... Bright, articulate, understanding, and well reasoned. A great addition to the show and hope she returns!
Jesus is God
Your soul and hell is no joke!!!!
I know Jesus is realand know your angry. at yourself and your guilt eats you up. I remember saying the same things you did before Jesus saved me.
When did mental patients get unmonitored internet access?
@@AC-gb7do they come here to preach, its funny and sad at the same time
The extremes people use to twist themselves up to keep themselves believing is truly astonishing to me.
43:24 Lets put an end to infinite regression... by imagining an infinite wizard with infinite power, because one infinite was not good enough!
Just baffling...
As many others have pointed out already, Gayle is awesome and I would love to see her on the ACA shows again!
This show is so perfect to start every Monday of my week.
You can see is a great show when trolls like@Truthus Maximus start appearing.
Nope, wrong again @Truthus Maximus .
Troll is anyone whose "arguments" get destroyed so much, that they can only spam them as if they were still useful.
@Truthus Maximus You mean the claim "a 'troll' is anyone winning a debate with butt-hurt atheists" yep, i agree.
Warstar If tapdancing around the truth was an Olympic sport, Christians would be gold medal winners.
Following demons like Matt into hell??? Jesus is the way to start everyday!!!!👍👍👍👍
gayle jordan was great. more gayle jordan please :-)
Yay, yes she does very well and is clever and erudite and articulate.
Agree 10000%. She should be a regular on the show...I miss Jeff too.
She is very eloquent. Magnificent.
Is it wrong to add she is also a cutie pie?
@@29maurice very wrong
oh i like Gayle. sweet, intelligent, patient, thoughtful. please have her on more. :)
Jason Theobald eloquent would be my word of choice.
First Ron, now Dale? I am now going to put a football helmet on to protect myself from further damage from severe facepalming.
That was a good conversation with AC, and Matt articulated some great points very well. Good stuff.
I was so alone when I left the church it’s great to see so much help out there now, I was so strong in faith trying to live a pure life preaching in prison knocking the odd door trying to save all lost humans . Thankfully I was a thinker and reason got me out but only after religion had made me so ill, crying on my knees for help that never came, just me and four walls. Life now is great free from religion, free from the mind madness of being watched .still after all these years I have thoughts about hell as this was the fear that caused me to become involved after family preached this threat .good luck to all who are finding freedom from religion it can take time.
Great show guys, Matt seemed happier and more on-the-ball than last week and Gayle had some good insight.
I can't watch/listen to UK callers. I'm not sure whether it's embarrassment or being too close to home for comfort, but I always recoil from them when I hear them.
Best show on earth!!
This was a CRAZY show...the phones were dropping callers left and right (some really good ones too) and then right after Matt hung up on Dale in Ohio the last caller disappeared and then all the lines LIT UP!! We were scrambling while Matt and Gayle had to vamp and buy us time :-) The fun of a live broadcast.
Paul Arndt - Call Screener Have you gotten any callers from these threads yet?
@@AC-gb7do Of course not, that's a level of exposure that trolls just can't handle. I may keep asking just to continue the social experiment but I wouldn't expect much.
Paul, I appreciate the work that you do!
Paul Arndt - Call Screener I have to admit, I’d love to see some of their arguments curbstomped so badly. It’d be like dinner and a movie for me.
@@AC-gb7do I've only noticed a few that have ever call the show and also comment. In this video thread further up someone was talking about Mark from Austin Stone Church. That is the same church Pickles goes to.
Shonkee gogo (Fred from Florida) has called Talk Heathen twice now.
Is Ron's full name Moron? Geezus! ROFLMAO!
Sadly so.
And the sad part is he was still smarter than the next caller.
Its Ron Major Moron III actually.
Sounds like a troll to me, fake caller who trying to get a rise out of them, trying to make a parody.
Such a good ep, one of my favs
I've been watching you tube almost a year and have watched almost every episode of Atheist Experience. Still have found no caller w/ proof of a deity....but many have claimed they do. Theist in my family have a very low bar of proof like a dream, a tree, a bee, or the Human eye.
My proof would need to be far greater and even hearing God talk to me would just make me doubt my sanity and not make me worship GOD.
I suggested to my Jehovas witness sister n law that God may be like Johnny appleseed. Plant the beginnings of life and on to the next planet
never to return. She looked at me like I had lost my mind.
Jay Mercha Imagine what she’d say if we had definite proof of alien life, she couldn’t claim to be so special anymore.
Theist in my family have the same BS proof....wait for it..The WIND is proof of GOD..🤣😳🤪
Dydy 1965 Don’t forget..”Look at the trees, therefore God!”
@RebelFred
Atheist: Thank you very much❤️
@@AC-gb7do I told her I have a tree in my yard...."THAT'S GOD"? ....That is proof of trees not god.
Excellent explanations and illustrations concerning that first caller Matt. Your clarity is stunning.
Both AC and Ron were painful....The degree to which so many callers fundamentally misunderstand the scientific method is astounding and sad.
The AC call was really good IMHO. I did not know about Zeno's paradox and to learn that was very informative.
Scientific illiteracy is a huge problem politically too, with so many contemporary problem being scientifically based, like climate change and stem cell research, and require a scientifically literate voting public to properly address.
Ron was hilarious. LOL
it is sad, they usually try and straw man it too and find fault with it rather than show how their sky daddy works
1:20:11 LMFAO @ "Mr. McKnow-It-All".... the addition of Mc was brilliant, intentional or not.
I live in UK ...i m from Poland which is very religious country but I m a genuine non bolvier and I LOVE YOU
jamjestmilion what’s a non bolvier?? Is that a polish word? Is that french?
@ shut up asshole
vilcantroper it's polish for "stop being a douche, you know what he meant"
jamjestmilion - Yes, my 10 yr old son did a research presentation on Poland. He said it’s over 90% Catholic. I’m so glad you’re out of that environment. Hello from another genuine non-believer from the USA!
vilcantroper prick. How many languages can you write? I can make an educated guess. Struggling with one.
Gayle is such a great co-host!! Wahooo! Love her! Wish she'd be on more!
great show as always
Dale, I have a really powerful telescope. I saw my god. It's a 1969 Pontiac GTO, G60s, Cragar rims, dual exhaust and beauty 455 cubic inch V8, orbiting Rigel in the Orion Constellation. Prove me wrong.
@@loki6626 Good point, Loki. That's the thing. Sometimes I'll look at Rigel A only to find it's scooted over to Rigel C. Last Tuesday I saw it orbiting MACS J1149+2223 Lensed Star 1. God works in mysterious ways.
@@loki6626 Very! My favorite photo is the Hubble Ultra Deep Field. Stunning. Closer to home, I remember working moon-bounce on 144MHz ham radio. The signal took about 2.5 seconds to make the round trip. I remember thinking how my signal is absolutely screaming through space. Then imagining light from the Andromeda galaxy taking 2.5 million years to get here!
@@loki6626 that GTO would look better with keystone classics, lol!
My mouth waters at the thought. I'd go with a '67 GTO, candy-apple red, Keystone rims, chrome, sitting in my driveway, forget outer space. Wow, and purring like a kitten. Shall I pray for one? And fuzzy dice on the rear view. Scented. Heaven.
People get hung up on this beginning thing. Two things, there's no reason to believe there was ever nothing. Second, if we consider that in the beginning there was no time space, then cause and effect is not in the picture since it relies on time to be present to have cause before effect. We can easily assume effect without cause.
You have essentially said what I was thinking. If the universe does not exist then the laws that govern the universe also may not exist. Therefore, there may not be any law of physics preventing something coming from nothing. We cannot assume anything about what can happen if the universe does not exist. I also agree with you that we can't know if there ever was a 'nothing'.
Either time and space had a beginning or it did not. Neither option is really satisfying in leading to a better understanding of our reality. As it often is, the honest answer is 'we don't know'.
I love how Matt approach the “We don’t know” honesty topic with the caller named Aaron.
1:09:15 was 🤣
After Matt’s nice bit of information debunking the fine tuning argument with the Douglas Adams quote, the theist fights back with:
“You know we have evidence of Noah’s flood?”
China says "YOU WOT MATE?!"
The guy just wasn't listening. He just wanted to go through all of his points he had prepared.
Wow! That first call was relatable! I’m an atheist now but I had an existential crisis when I first realized I was and am an atheist.!it’s scary to accept the unknown but the pursuit of truth is worth it. What a great first call.
But who prays for Satan? Who, in twenty-one centuries, has had the common humanity to pray for the one sinner that needed it most?
One of the best episodes I've seen this year.
Sometimes I listen to callers, and skip ahead a couple of minutes at a time, to watch Matt gradually lose his patience. That's not a criticism. He has an order of magnitude more patience than I do. :)
@@blankaccount5073 you troll videos you don't like just to insult people you don't know. While I know you're clearly an expert on what a loser looks like given you have the insiders perspective, I'm not sure you're being entirely honest with yourself here.
@@blankaccount5073 You sound like someone who has experience at doing other things when staring at matt. What a weirdo you are.
@@blankaccount5073 Someone sounds triggered!!!
@@blankaccount5073 Nope, try again.
@@blankaccount5073 Nope, again?
Re: the first caller and synchronicity. Back when I was 16, I happened to catch a road safety PSA on television here in the UK. It took the form of a mock news report about a 16 year old boy with my exact forename and surname, right down to spelling (and it's not a particularly common conjunction of names), who had been hit by a car and killed. I had to ring around my friends and relatives to assure them I was safe and most definitely not dead, in the event they had seen it too. Yes, it was a remarkably detailed coincidence, at least on the congruent points, but that's the nature of synchronocity: meaningful coincidence, in which the meaning is provided by those experiencing them.
Im live in nc. The mountians are beautiful. I am involved in some other volunteer projects at the moment but I will be volunteering for rfr in the next month. I love what yall do. If Matt reads this I am in one of those towns with no atheist organizations based in my town. I live in Salisbury nc. Looking to do some work with you guys
@@siLence-84 I know. But on the off chance he did.
What a great episode! Gayle was great. I wish she talked more!
The education system is just fine in America! Ron is a perfect example of why there are no changes or improvements needed.
Fuck you ron is very smart and intelligent lol.
Nice show. That Matthew dude is a pretty intellectual guy. This is actually a relaxing show.
Matt is very knowledgeable. Check out Aron Ra.
First show ?
LMAO!!! Relaxing? He's just behaving well out of respect to his guest speaker. Keep watching... better still watch all of Matt's appearences, especially in YT video titles mentioning "beast mode" or "ripping a..."
Now, ex-presenter Tracie Harris, she was extremely relaxing to listen to, pity she left.
Matt's great - however he can get pretty heated - and rightfully so - with some of those extremely boneheaded, close minded, in denial, callers.
I started watching this year as well. After I saw an episode with Matt I thought "man, I hope this guy is in more episodes."
I knew nothing back then.
Gayle's smile when Matt gets agitated
I love those long, long pauses in which Ron is trying to operate that neglected organ in his head - the thing that in higher forms of life we might call a brain.
A reminder of that glorious day years ago when Matt and Jen told a caller that the universe was dependent on the laws of physics. Ten seconds later, as Jen was trying to continue, the caller suddenly butted in with "Uuuh... Whaaas 'physics'?"
The finest conversation-stopper ever.
Ron's shoes have a painted reminder on them: "PTIF". It means "Put Toes In First".
Ron is sweet - good natured guy
HELLO GAYLE! I don't know you, but am glad to see you, and get to know you.
I saw her first!
(This has been another heart-warming episode of If Dogs Could Talk ❤️)
Harry Pothead I know what she likes. But it’ll cost ya is all I’m saying.
Matt - the "hangup" champion! :-D Way to go! This episode just had so many crackpots....amazed that Matt didn't hang up on more calls ;-)
Ron the funniest caller ever lol had me spitting up my water troll of the year
Was obvious from the get go cause he couldn't even keep a serious tone
Did the water you spat form a puddle? If so CHECKMATE ATHE... no
See, I think the most telling thing about Theists is.... You were never quite sure whether Ron was trolling. I suspected right away, but couldn't be convinced until near the end of the call. I am still not 100% sure he was trolling because I have watched A LOT of this show... And there have been real callers that weren't that far away from Ron.
He wasn't a troll, just a prank caller.
@@loki6626
Yes, a troll would only entertain themself.
Gayle- excellent!
Religion affected my life so badly in many ways. Catholicism ruined some of my life as well
But I'm free of guilt now!!!
Full of anger still from being manipulated by churches and priests, and nuns, and an abusive father. But I'm getting over it!
Poor Gayle hardly got a word in. I love Matt, but he really has a problem letting other presenters have some input 😂
Have to say, Gail cuts in with THE best comments. I can imagine it's near impossible to get a word in edge-wise with Matt beside you but when she does come in, it's been really good.
Yeah and I kinda thought the opposite. I like Matt’s reason/logic/evidence approach whereas gayle went an emotional route with the first caller and it bugged me. I almost wish Matt would do the show solo sometimes but I have problems with him as well, he’s def not perfect
John: Why would a god play mind games with us? Mind games means sending mixed messages.
“For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.” - Corinthians 14:33
I’m always reminded of that bible verse. When there’s 1000’s of different denominations of Christianity. All interpreting the bible in vastly different ways, because of the mixed messages of the bible.
The Skeptic Philosopher god would be the master of confusion. It’s not just slight differences in interpretation. You can have completely opposite interpretations. The bible was used to support slavery in the US, and to support abolition of slavery. Some people use it to support homophobia, and others to reject homophobia.
The Skeptic Philosopher if the bible was actually the divinely inspired word of God. I would expect its meanings to be a bit more clear, read a science book aimed at the layperson and they’re very clear.
I would expect it to be a bit more timeless and universal. Not apparently written by and for Bronze Age and Iron Age people in the Middle East.
I would also expect some useful information, instead of things that were already known in the ancient world. Germ Theory was not discovered until the mid 1900’s. God could have mentioned there were tiny creatures that were so small they were invisible, that caused illnesses and infections. Instead the bible says mustard seeds are the smallest things.
The bible is very clear but there are a lot of complex ideas and the OT requires knowledge about the culture. Also, in the Leviticus, god does educate the Hebrews on germ theory.
Jarl Grimm The reason the Bible is confusing and unclear to you is because you are not reading it with spiritual eyes, because you lack the necessary spiritual apparatus. Once that is gained, it makes perfect sense. I used to be in the same boat as you. Many atheists say they expect this or that from the Bible. But God cares little for what we "expect." What we expect is our problem, not God's.
True Morality?
Why do we choose to be good? If there's no reward now or in the afterlife? We choose to be good because of our bonds with other people and our innate desire to treat them with dignity and in turn be treated with dignity.
I really wanted to hear more interaction with callers by Gayle. She is a wise person, and would have added more value to this program.
Watching poor Gail try to keep it together while Ron was on the phone was classic.
Matt and I both lost weight when we realized it was a fine idea for "senior" atheist diabetics.
@no privacy He's talked about it
I never heard about the Zeno’s Paradox. I learned something new today! 😀
The best thing to do in this world is to do good take care of yourself ,Travel learn something new and pass on knowledge to other's
Best thing to do in the world is to grow . Period . Everything else is hear say.
Gayle’s grace and understanding is impeccable and I’m here for it
John from Connecticut sounds a lot like the former troll Mark from the Austin Stone Church of God or whatever it was? 😆
MrGpt2010
Yes he was a troll, he was an atheist who pretended to be a Christian just to “make people see how dumb Christian argument were” he said in a post on the ACA blog. After that, they banned him from ever calling in again. Plus the church he always talked about never existed 😂
Anthony Davis
He was always in a few, he just pretended to be a Christian to get on this and try and shirt show people how stupid Christian Lord. That was what he said anyway in a post on the border. Plus the church he always talked about was nonexistent. That’s why he doesn’t call in anymore. He’s banned.
@@MMAGamblingTips I may be wrong here but I looked Stone Church of Austin up long time ago because I thought Mark was an absolute nutcase; seems to me it existed but this was a while back. Maybe not.
as a moderate christian, I find these shows refreshing, please continue on and educate the people, you are much needed in the world
You have to watch that Hush Whisper Garden of Eden video! 😂🤣
It's so hilariously bad, I seriously wonder if he's a Poe
*An atheist coming out*
A theist: Unbelievable!
The atheist: I know right!
That's clever. May I use?
@@hegyak sure , I'm big time proud of it spread the good word lol!
it is callers like AC that remind me I miss Tracie
@@blankaccount5073 dude you are so filled with hate if you where born a muslim you would have joined isis.
About John's call. So I had a really frightening, abusive father. It had conditioned me such that every time I heard that car pull up the driveway, my mind would immediately purge every other thought or less-than-scared feeling I had at the time and only one voice would be screaming at me in my head: run and hide. Every sound he made, every clatter of his cutlery on his plate, every clearing of his throat, every sound of his bathroom faucet turning on or off, every slam of his closet door. Anyway you get the idea. So on the days when my big brother's car would screech to a stop in front of the house, waiting for me, I'd go running. Jump in and we sped off. Just to have a day escaping my father. We'd drive far and find things to do, places to hang out. But I had this insane fear all the time: that somehow, *somehow*, I would see my father around the next bend of the road, expecting me. Waiting for me. Or somehow, he would just find me wherever we had stopped to buy something. Even though he had no real way of tracking us. I'd keep thinking I just now heard his car, or his voice, and reflexively I just hid. It was as real as my conditioned mind made it real.
And I knew it was extremely unlikely he'd ever find us, if he even bothered to go looking for us in the first place. But when you're so conditioned, your fear overrides all logic. I just couldn't help it, and I knew it. But as much as I felt absolutely positive he would be waiting around the next bend, or the next one, it just never happened.
WHAT a loving Father son relationship.
To a DELUDED adult theist!
Their (Christians mainly) idea of being in God FEAR (mentioned about 100 times in the Bible) is just sad.
I very much doubt that you Adrian would have your kids fear you. How anti-theist of you, well done :)
@@kimsland999 - Exactly, they'll refer to them as "good god-fearing folk" and god is a "just and loving god". What kind of just god makes people worry about an eternity of hellfire?
And thank you, although I shouldn't be commended for merely not doing a bad thing. But yes if I had kids I definitely wouldn't want them to be afraid of me. If there was a silver lining from the abuse I got, it was that I told myself since at an early age that my father was an example of what not to be.
But my father wasn't really a theist, or a religious person much. He was plainly immoral, very stupid -- and frankly too self-absorbed to care. He wore different religions at different times, depending on the mood, like it were a fashion, because all he cared about was "impressing" those around him. He knew hardly anything at all about the beliefs or values in any religion.
This, combined with the abuse I took from him, as well as receiving abuse from - and witnessing general apathy and arrogance/ignorance of - people who were affiliated with religion, at least made me find their religions extremely unconvincing, both morally and intellectually. Where I lived, there were/are roughly equal parts of Christianity, Hinduism and Islam. So I've seen the different flavours of delusion, arrogance, backwardness, cruelty, stubbornness and overall non-think. I don't say that to be nasty to theists, but it's really what I've observed.
And yes if god shows up LOT OF QUESTIONS
I could spend a week just on the platypus.
Matt, nice explanation at 1:18 as to why we should ignore crack pot claims!
AC from Illinois doesn’t understand basic logic
I used step one in my early miserable days of attending AA meetings ( not court ordered) to examine my level of honesty about my own drinking. That uncomfortable kind of critical thinking I reserved only for other people I considered habitual liars. During my turn to give testimony after introducing my name I also admitted out loud I was dropping the label of Christian so I could lie less often. Not one dirty look around the room but plenty of heads bowed. It felt good those 5+ year sober members where doing everything they could to help me wake up without a poisoning hangover. All this a decade ago and I'm STILL a godless grateful sober alcoholic, with folding cash and my own place. And useful friends outside the bar that I trust in my home.
For god so loved the world he sent matt not jesus.
Derren Brown did a great series called fear and faith that really shows how we take random experiences and try to give them meaning. Check out part two in his series and the section called Intervention for more information.
I'd also like to point out the problem with this time thing that gets used so often. Matt has hit on it before, but its misrepresented too often.
Our universe has time as a dimension. Time began when the universe began to expand. That does not mean there was not a different "time" before our universe. Example: time began for me when I was born, but time existed before me. If there were say...a multiverse, our space time began when our universe began to expand but that has no bearing on the different times in different universes. Time is not a bubble you just jump into and out of. Depending on the definition used, it is a measurement of continued existence. If there were a god "outside of time" how does he do anything? The act of not causing the universe to begin to then cause the universe to begin existing requires some form of "time". He wasnt causing it and then he was. The idea of anything existing outside of "any" time may be completely incoherent and it's all just speculation without any evidence.
Here's an instance where 2+2=5
Take 2 different ropes with 2 knots in each rope. If you add both ropes (tie them together), you'll get 5 knots: 2 from rope A, 2 from rope B, and 1 from tying the ropes together! 2+2=5? Nah, it's just a fun thought experiment my grandpa told me once :)
Christian caller calls in and says that RUclips and google delete all of the videos that he makes about finding the garden of eden and then literally tells you to go to his channel and watch the video he claims was deleted. This is conspiracy theory logic. At its finest I might add.
S Gloobal claims his comments get deleted...wonder if it was him?
Lizard people!
@@lancepabon yup, its barely believable but Ive had convos with people who follow that insane guy dave ike
Not giving credit, but my comments on youtube are changed instantly all the time. The only workaround is to copy and paste my comments. The videos i used to make were about atheism, catholic molesters, genocide across the world and illegal wars. I deleted all my videos one day. But my comments still get changed. I recorded it.
@@racerx3669 Blame the lizard people ...
"are you going to let me talk, or I'm gonna hang up on your ass.." Should be put on a Tshirt.
Where’s Jeff Dee I miss Matt and Jeff hosting
Matt is the best.
AC, you're trying too hard. These are arrogant assumptions, even if you're really convinced of them.
He is a known troll...
He’s a dolt.
It sounds a lot like Darth Dawkins but way more reasonable since he acknowledged Matt's reasoning during the call.
@@MidlifeCrisis82 I think it was him.
AC: first, EVERYONE IS AGNOSTIC -- EVEN THE FOOLS WHO CLAIM GNOSTICISM! Stop with the label foolishness.
Then you can try to demonstrate something that could exist outside space/time.
Then you can get over the stupidity of "infinity can't get to now." IF your god was real and eternal, then IT could not have created the universe.
I just started volunteering with Recovering From Religion. If you have some free time, I'd heartily recommend volunteering with them. It's a terrific group of folks. Or, if you're a believer who might be starting to question your faith, there are resources available to you, whether it's talking to someone on the phone, or chatting with someone (like me) on the chat line, or joining an online community. There's lots of people at RfR who want to help you get through with whatever you're going through.
Honestly, the evil debauchery is my favourite part.
I like the baby-ques better. But they're so few and far between. (Supply and demand.) So yeah, over all, your good old reliable day to day debauchery is the way to go.
@@brucebaker810 I can't disagree but also, this comment is a year old, so something got necro'd here.
@@andr0oS True. I just got drawn in by "debauchery". Was typing before I noted op date.
Professionals in alcohol treatment see AA as complete BS. It's not healthy to go through life seeing yourself as an addict and it's not a good idea to surrender responsibility. See a mental health care professional instead to get to the root of the problem. People usually drink to avoid something and that's what you should focus on. Fix your life and you can regain a healthy relationship with alcohol.
John asked, how can you explain matter and energy without a supernatural first cause?
The immediate answer to that should be this -- how can you explain the existence of any supernatural cause? You might think you need it, but you have to explain how it is even possible, let alone show the evidence for it.
Yeah, there´s an infinite regress even in the God thing. The God god, the god god god etc.
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Gods God. :-)
Fredrik Sundberg Den var bra!
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Ron got me dying 😂
I was watching something else before this vid and I had my playback speed set at 1.5x when the intro music came on and it was really cool!... try listening to the intro here at 1.5x speed and let me know if you agree.
Is Ron for real? I'm thinking he's just a prank caller.
Great show. Matt seems much happier this week. Good to see. :)
Dear John: My alarm-clock often shows 11:11 (or 22:22), right when I look at it! God is real!
@Yoster Schnauss I'm sure He knows (it's a _he_ too, apparently)
Great comment from Matt on equating "Oh my god" with "Holy cow."
So waht is the job market like in Austin?
Dear Matt, we need to hear more from Gayle as well next time, u answered all the questions
AC came expecting a cake walk, and got owned.
@@blankaccount5073 call the show coward.
@@blankaccount5073 dunno where you come from, but where I come from Atheists are quite common.
AC seemed like a low quality Darth Dawkins
Zeno's paradox is easy to get around with calculus 1 and you can show the distance converges to zero
Yep. If Zeno was not afraid to question his premises, mathematical analysis would have been invented much earlier and not in the 17th century. And more surprising that this is some kind of a problem for modern religious apologists 🤔 ...
Not really. As stated, it approaches 0, but it never gets to zero. Which is the point of the paradox.
alicevana As a child I discovered infinity while looking at a tiny mosquito on my arm, the little thing had a circulatory system, therefore a heart -- but what made that tiny heart? What was inside it? A tiny heart valve? And what made the heart valve? Microscopic muscle tissue of some sort? And what was that made of? It had to be made of something...and it never ends. Physical life is infinite.
@@DocPetron you can 100% show the distance go to 0. It's a simple limit in calculus 1. Just like you can find the area under a infinite curve.
We do this problem in my calculus 1 class each semester
A little over 20 years ago I started a path of recovery from addiction through a 12 step program I’m not gonna be specific
about which one it really matter. The main point of trying to bring up is that the 12 step programs while not related to necessarily a specific religion, although some do, most suggest that you find a Higher Power, it shouldn’t be a doorknob or an ashtray, that you should pray to, talk to, attempt to communicate with and to ask for help in your recovery. It is suggested that you do not ask for
money or anything like that but rather you use the serenity prayer: “grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change the courage to change the things I can and the wisdom to know the difference. Just for today.” And I was told other things such as there’s no such thing as coincidence and I have to say that for a while it worked but then I realize that basically, I was simply
using a mild form of self-hypnosis to convince myself in a sort of positive thinking to basically just live for today and not worry about what happened in the past or what might happen in the future.
Today, and even then, I couldn’t get my mind around the idea that there was no such thing as coincidence because statistically, coincidence is almost required to be “a thing.” It is similar to when I hear all the odds against life happening on earth are a bazillion (a very large unspecified number) to one, no the odds against or for life happening on earth are exactly 100% because life happened on earth and we know it. Life happened were the result of it or at least one of the results of life happening. So if anyone asks you what are the odds that life would happen here will it did, therefore, the odds are a hundred percent. Anything else is pure speculation. Also, we would expect life to be very common in the because life is made up of five or six most common elements in the universe. Life isn’t made up of the heavier elements life is made up of the first five or six the only one I think of those first elements that aren’t part of life is helium.
Dale's channel, hush whisper, is the weirdest ever. The best case of Pareidolia: The science behind seeing faces in everyday objects. ... You won't believe it.
Seemed unstable...
Dude! Hell yea! Shout out to the behind the scenes guy with the packers gear on :D
my question to Aaron: were you required by a court order to attend AA?
@deadend Most definitely. I would refuse on religious grounds to attend one if I were ordered to.
I wish we could hear more from Ms Jordan