The Unraveling | Glenn Loury & John McWhorter [The Glenn Show]
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- John: White Fragility is “one of the worst books ever written” 0:47
Debating how we should remember Woodrow Wilson 5:37
Glenn: Our story is about more than just domination and oppression 11:02
On being a dissident black academic 20:01
Why John resigned from the board of the National Books Critics Circle 38:15
Should John and Glenn fear defenestration by the mob? 41:26
Glenn Loury (Watson Institute for International and Public Affairs, Brown University) and John McWhorter (Columbia University, Lexicon Valley, The Atlantic)
Recorded July 2, 2020
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You should send DiAngelo feedback. By her own rules, she has to listen to you.
I wish that were true, but "critical race theory" says that engaging in that kind of discussion is being complicit in "white supremacy" in American society.
@Real History Her logic is identical to that of people afflicted with paranoid delusions. Any data, comment, feedback, response will simply be absorbed into her unbreakable delusional framework. Ask anyone who has tried to help or reason with an afflicted loved one.
It’s funny, she has a twitter account but it’s protected with only 500 followers. (Not verified but I’m sure it’s her.) What other authors do you know of who have no twitter presence? Guess she doesn’t need one with her speaking/workshop fees.
I'm about to start the video. I hope you're not talking about the Robin chick. She is definitely a weird one.
Dude! You win the internet.
These two intellectual juggernauts are criminally underappreciated.
They would’ve been lauded as intellectual superheroes, if only they’d bought into the victimhood ideology.
@Timothy Somerville
Example?
Because the Confederate leadership made morons look smart, they believed 1 southerner could beat 5 northerners, and that the British and French would come to their aid for king cotton and, I suspect, they thought they could conquer land in the west where they could grow cotton so
they fired on Sumter to start the fighting which Lincoln did not have the support to do on his own.
Hearing smart, articulate people deconstruct terrible ideas is my new anti-depressant. Thanks, Glenn and John.
The bit starting at about 31:30 with the list of black economists is pretty depressing. I actually find smart, articulate people deconstructing terrible ideas depressing because they should be coming up with new ideas rather than combating the force which is smart, articulate people pushing terrible ideas.
“Articulate”! That’s a micro-aggression!
@@thel1355 Oh no, you're right. Now I'll have to go to my woke priest and confess my sins or I'll never get into anti-racist heaven!
If only we had politicians like this.
Brilliant Arch!
At 53 years of age, and black, I frequently want to give up on my race...then I listen to these two guys and salvage hope.
I feel you. At 50-some years of age, and white, I've lately been tempted to give up on the whole human race -- seems like people have lost their damn minds. When I listen to these two guys, I feel the sweet relief of being in adult company again. I salvage hope that we don't have to become a nation of insane toddlers.
I teach at a public university in the South and have *many* African-American students. I remember one student who is from the Mississippi Delta and wants to major in business so that she can start a business and employ people who want jobs. (Job loss is destroying poor communities in the Delta.) Other students want to be nurses or are working their way through school by joining ROTC. Great kids and a joy to teach.
People who do the wrong things get the attention while people quietly doing the right thing are often ignored.
We used to unite in fighting the actions of or making fun of the crazy people in our demographics.
Byron Lee, if this is your source of hope you are already lost
Same!
I get goosbumps when Glenn gets emotional. The passion
Passion is a poor substitute for actually affecting meaningful lasting change.
Yes, me to!
Michael C I see that!
Well said.
Thank God for these guys and Coleman Hughes. I don’t think I could survive this intellectual and moral isolation without them.
Look up Ayishat Akanbi as well. There are some videos on RUclips.
Well said, well said. These men are my center.
"Intellectual and moral isolation" I've been feeling this so intensely the past few months
I really like how Loury passionately talked about how Black history isn’t only about oppression- I feel that about Jewish history and I’m seeking a doctorate in Jewish history to push back against a lachrymose view of Jewish history. I totally related to what he said. I love these discussions.
Wow. Good luck.
John, please talk to Brett Weinstein and then get Glenn and GO ON ROGAN TOGETHER. Please!!!! America and the world needs to hear your words
Agreed so much !! How do we make this happen haha.
John already talked to Bret Weinstein though, just recently
I SECOND THIS!!!! The world needs you guys. Fuck it. Get Coleman on with you guys too. Make it a four hour epic.
@@wowomah6194 Listened to that one but on Rogan would get a much wider audience.
@@penrose2942 True. I really think both John and Glenn should go on Rogan too
I’ve been here since the beginning and to paraphrase Professor McWhorter “I ain’t finta go nowhere”. These gentlemen are my brothers and they represent the best of America.
Frederick Douglass knew where his roots were. I am sure that the black men in Grant’s army did, too. That’s why he always took their side. Years ago, I watched a movie starring Mohammed Ali about the end of Reconstruction in the South. There were scenes of his character meeting with President Grant. It was revealing to me that Ali’s Character knew where Grant's heart lay but that the country wouldn’t follow him any more. Grant remained the most popular man in America for the next ten years, was awarded the greatest funeral in American history, attended by Southern generals. But it was after that that the “Lost Cause” historians began to attack his reputation as a general and as a president, though not as a man because his Autobiography tells us WHAT a man he was. It infuriates me that ignorant mobsters would join in this vilification.
Hi, can you please tell me what does finta mean? English is not my first language and I tried to look it up but couldn't find its translation
@@carmenmrsl3297 Yes sir! Okay, so "Finta" is old head speak for "finna," which is a colloquialism and an "unofficial" contraction of "fixing to," as in preparing to, or about to. It's southern, but you'll see black folk use it as well. It's one of those phrases you should probably never use on a paper, but you can use it when speaking to other english speakers, so long as they're American and you'll sound more experienced and they might get a kick out of it! Hope that helps! 😁👍🏻 What's your native tongue?
@@MeanBeanComedy thanks! Very nuanced explanation ☺️👍🏻
Spanish is my native tongue
@@carmenmrsl3297 Bien! Puedo aprender un palabra familiar de ti?
I'm a liberal, former Democrat. I think about race more now than I ever have and not for the better. I still respect MLK Jr. even if he was a misogynist. They're probably coming for him next. It's a shame the left thinks what they're doing to us is progress.
ANTIFA is a revolutionary communist organization that has existed since the 1930s. BLM leaders have said of themsleves: "we are trained Marxists". They are not focusing on police brutality. They are focusing on tearing down statues. That is a cultural revolution. This is a classic minor communist uprising attempt. What you should really be asking yourself is: why is the DNC and the left-wing media in radical support of all of this? China. A lot of money is in relationships with the Chinese Communist Party. It really is simple.
>I think about race more now than I ever have and not for the better.
Yup. Speaking as a white guy, it's a deeply unpleasant experience to have to think about yourself in racial terms, something I'm finding I'm doing more and more these days. It must be miserable for black Americans to experience life like this, and I cant imagine why activists would desire to spread misery around, instead of eliminate it. I guess equality is easier if you tear down the guys on top instead of building up the people at the bottom.
@@episodenull The guy above you probably found out what the motivation is! 😳😳😳
They've been trying to write MLK out for at least a decade now. He doesn't have a place in their narrative.
@@episodenull word. Building up is better.
Nothing gives me more hope than listening to John and Glenn speak on these current issues. These men have kept me sane during this time with their insight and rational thinking. I only wish more people knew about them! Someone get these men on the JRE podcast already!!!
I really hope Glen stays healthy even though he's getting so riled up by talking about this.... I don't want him to have a heart attack from passion!! We need his message to save this country
John, I really hope you finish your book quickly. I’m a white male married to a mixed race (black/Hebrew) woman. I grew up in the 80s detesting racism, pollution, and big corporations, so I could hardly be accused of being right wing. My wife and I used to be able to talk about anything, but with recent events that has stopped.
I grew up in a poor, high crime neighborhood. I suffered physical, and verbal abuse from both parents. Because I had no money for college (and because nobody in my family had been to college) I went straight from high school into a brutal manual labor job for 6 years that permanently damaged my back before I turned 30. My mother died of cancer when I was 23. I have been mistreated by police on multiple occasions up to and including having a gun pointed at me despite the fact that I’ve never once committed any crime, done drugs of any kind, or owned a firearm. And I chose to make a woman of color my wife, and the mother of my child.
Despite all that, after reading White Fragility, my wife informed me that all white people are racists, and that my white fragility prevents me from acknowledging how I have benefited from her oppression. She the community college professor with a masters degree who earns more than I do. I didn’t even argue with her while she yelled at me one night for an hour straight without taking a breath about how horrible racism is, and how everyone we know is racist, and how all systems we are under are founded on racism.
She really is not that person overall. She has endured her own unfair encounters with police and other acts that any reasonable or objective person would have to recognize as racist. And I know that seeing images of what was done to George Floyd is traumatic for someone as compassionate as she is. So now is not the time for me to have a nuanced discussion with her based on statistics trying to prove that complicated problems I care about are just blindly being blamed on racism which is only part of the issue. However, our relationship is being damaged by this, and I can’t continue to do nothing.
I know she respects the hell out of John Hamilton McWhorter the fifth from listening to Lexicon Valley. I’m hoping by the time your book comes out that emotion will not be running as high, and that it can be a starting point for a conversation. Until then my silence is proof that I’m complicit in oppressing her with my whiteness.
Hang in there buddy...
Would she watch their conversations??
Damn.
Get rid of this woman, and by the way, hebrew is NOT a race, it's not even a religion, it's a fantasy.
Tough place to be!
Two of the most important and brave people in the conversation today
These men are so inspirational!!! God bless them!
So grateful that they would allow us to be a part of their conversation. They really embody what it is to master your craft with passion and excellence! Thank you for your existence...the world is a better place because you are in it! 🙏🏼
Just leaving a comment to promote the algorithm
Ooo, I can help, too. Snarled marvel cargle blark, simdifoed multy barngie marks. Bork Bork Bork. 🤓🖖
@@IdiotCinema you took the words out of my blorf.
Im doing my part!
Carmen MRSL bump
Great idea. Hope these videos reach many.
Keep these podcasts going, guys. The whole world needs to hear you!
(I wrote this before I heard the stuff starting @42:00)
"they" are trying to cancel John's peer Steve Pinker - I bet Glenn knows a bunch of folks personally that are being threatened.
I can easily imagine some rich Manhattan anti-racist white folks sharpening their knives (if DiAngelo's book can be used to sharpen knives - or maybe Kendi's book) if they ever hear this podcast.
I hope it doesn't happen to these fine gentlemen but damn, the fact that it (cancel culture) is happening is disheartening.
Nietzsche says in the first chapter of “Beyond Good & Evil: A Prelude to the Philosophy of the Future” that, “...every philosophy thus far has been the unconscious confession of its author.”
Using this insight, it becomes exceedingly clear that “White Fragility” is Robin DeAngelo wrestling with her own internal demons.
Racists with a guilty conscience? Or perhaps people who overthink their own thought processes. Don't think of a banana... don't think of race.
Interesting way to look at it. 🤔
Yes thats precisely where I think the guttural feeling of rejection to this type of book comes from. Akin to Freud and the Oedipus complex....many people simply don't identify or find it to be "true enough" for them to buy into it. So it becomes a bit of self-selection.
Rather than having the intellectual honesty or courage to simply state something that is true for "me", and my own struggles to overcome racial bias, it is written as if everyone must feel that way...because I do. Its shared guilt, its lack of personal accountability, and its weak.
I think so too
Now that I’ve seen more of what’s in this book I completely agree. She is a total racist.
All of DiAngelo's books should be titled, "I hate Myself."
Subtitle “ the Art of Projection”.
The people who buy into the stuff have low self esteem or as Chapelle would say a brittle spirit 😂
No. "I hate myself .. and you should too."
I hate myself (and also you).
Are they all that bad?
What an intellectual feast on the 4th!
It is the sheer courage and commitment to excellent that will be the engine for true progress
I feel sorry for you
@@charlesodiase3279 please elaborate on your pity.
I have been asking the same question, John - are we supposed to be telling little white boys that THEy are EVIL??? This is just ridiculous!
Don't worry - "Little white boys" are now routinely programmed with this in "public education", beginning with their first entrance into it, i.e. TK, Pre-K, Kinder.
Extending the "white privilege" public education believes exists to non-whites is now Mission One in American public schools.
@@mjchapko I am a teacher in an American public school and I am not seeing this being taught overtly, BUT it is pretty clear that white boys don't matter as much as everyone else. Anyone who thinks that black children are discriminated against are living in the past. If anything, they are coddled beyond belief.
I listened to an interview with DiAngelo on KQED public radio here in the Bay Area a couple of weeks ago where a listener called in during the Q&A segment saying she embraced DiAngelo's ideas and was an activist for social justice, but as the mother of two (white) sons attending a diverse school where they were the minority, she wasn't sure how to continue teaching them about white supremacy since they hated being white and wished they weren't white. She'd been telling them they were nice and it wasn't their fault they benefited from a system of institutional racism, but they were still struggling with their privilege. DiAngelo said she gets nervous when she hears stories like these because white people resistant to the idea of antiracism will latch onto them and say she wants whites to feel bad about themselves which isn't true. She maintains guilt and shame aren't effective means to elicit change. Instead she counselled the woman to help her sons use the reality of their privilege in ways that will contribute to antiracism and make them feel proud about themselves, the implicit message of course being the only way a white oppressor can feel proud of who they are is being vigilant about antiracism. DiAngelo also suggested using white antiracist role models but then added we don't have a lot of these people to look up to. I'm not sure she's read much history on the subject.
@@1CuriousMuse I'm sure she is a HACK!
@@1CuriousMuse child abuse charges to follow
You two vibe so well. I could totally watch a weekly show of you two on network tv
You guys are a National Treasure.
why isnt Mount Rushmore added to? am trying to think of a couple names to nominate...
Really, REALLY respect these two men.
John, I JUST started reading White Fragility and I had the SAME thought. Absolutely mind-boggling how it’s become revered.
I understand such books are being submitted to Human Resources, in companies now.
Plaid Paisley The big retail corporation I work for has “White Fragility” as suggested reading for me and they’re offering unconscious bias training..
Nicole Abraham I will send you a few links if that’s ok...
Nicole Abraham Katelyn Borysenko is a psychologist who works w/ corporations. Here is her take the book.
ruclips.net/video/J2dJ2f6ycUc/видео.html
@@nicoleabraham4639 Might I suggest orwell's 1984 as well.
Thank god, I can feed my addiction; I was having withdrawal symptoms.
This deserves 1M+ views.
I just found out about these podcasts a few weeks ago. The word is getting out.
@@davidh5020 That really does make me feel optomistic
@@elijahwilliameby2030
I came here from Liam Duffy's (English guy) Twitter. Word is getting out!
John: Have you ever actually read Robin D Angelo's 'White Fragility'?
Glenn: Man you have got to be kidding me, that's torture.
😂😂 You guys kill me, thanks for sharing your thoughts!
Glenn Loury is going nuclear... love it!
If you guys are afraid of getting cancelled as accomplished black men imagine how you white comrades feel? The 2 of you are absolute treasures and need more exposure. I hope that John's anti-racism book blows up and makes him a national phenomenon so we can get past this insanity..
Lowry and McWhorter are two of my favorite people. No nonsense at all rimes
I think it's fantastic that Glenn "I'm gonna say it" feels that he can say anything and does!
I am profoundly grateful for your voices and your courage.
This might be your guys' best episode yet. Thank you for speaking truth and reason and nuance and inspiring others in these harrowing times.
71K views! I'm proud to say I was a viewer back when you were topping out at around 2K views (not a commentart on the quality of the content). So happy more people are listening to you gentlemen and having your ideas reach them. You both deserve so much success.
I enjoy the conversations you two have; always a learning experience and a good dose of laughter. Thank you in advance John, for the book you are writing. Your voice on this issue is critical at this moment.
Love the conversation. Throughout our recent history, I've struggled with the question--cannot we come to a reckoning for our past and still be patriots? In fact, isn't it because we LOVE our country that we must constantly question our values and continue to be the shining example to the rest of the world of what govt for the people REALLY means for centuries. We can admit that we are not perfect, but still the greatest country in the world. And we can do our very best to move forward together.
Statues, what statues should be taken down? Here is my guideline... if the statue was erected because of the person's immoral actions or political position, then that statue should be taken down. So, Robert E. Lee's statue is taken down because the statue is there because Lee fought for a political view supporting the institution of slavery. George Washington's statue remains because the statue is erected to honor his contributions as a Founding Father. If Lee had been a Confederate general but in later life discovered penicillin, for example, and a statue of Lee was erected for that contribution, then the statue should remain.
I think your guidelines are pretty much my guidelines. I can see that there is still a gray area. A statue of Columbus might be an example.
Lee fought for his state. He wasn't personally for the cause of his state's secession, but he could not abandon his state, regardless of his disagreement. It was a matter of principle. Lincoln had wanted to make him commander of his army, but Lee somewhat regretfully refused. People today think of the US as a country, but it was conceived as a union of states. From his perspective, outsiders were transgressing on his people with deadly force.
People may like to know that Lee himself did not want a statue built of him or any other general of the old South as he vocally opposed glorifying Confederate symbolism post-war.
@@benjaminharrisongray9079 interesting... I didn't know that....
Glen and john, you are my center. I always come to you for wisdom. I wish I had you as professors at iowa!
Listening to Glenn and John is a true joy
God, these guys are great. Just phenomenal - even when they disagree, they maintain so much mutual respect for each other.
Not to mention their capacity for nuanced thinking and open dialogue is something that should be honored by more people.
GLENN IS IN HIS 70S????? DAMN, he looks so young.
Glenn speaking so passionately is enough to about move me to tears. You can tell at the foundation of what he’s saying there’s a deep, authentic concern for these issues, one that is true enough that Glenn would follow any thread regardless of the political and social implications.
And I bet he’s right, I’m unfortunately one of the people too stupid to distinguish the validity of his work versus those that seek to create politicized narratives from economics but I can rely on Glenn’s honesty and integrity to reinforce what little I do understand.
Thanks Glenn, thanks John! It’s always an honor to hear you two speak.
Preach, Professor Glenn!! Preach it!!! I love it. Another great episode where wisdom is shared with the world from great scholars.
Please add two hours to these conversations. It’s never enough. Thank you both!
Glenn and John are so good at 'steel-man'ing the opposing argument and breaking it down, seeing both sides rationally and weighing them fairly. All too rare in our current atmosphere.
I have literally been brought to tears listening to this beautiful conversation! Thank you for awakening my brain! Please Please I BEG you to remain courageous and stand up for other educators under attack, because in that you stand for Freedom worldwide! Thank you thank you thank you! Maybe please start your own school!
God dang I love Glenn Loury! He's getting more vinegar as he ages; I like it! I love these talks between you two. Keep it up! We are in a generations long battle. We will need more of your 'material,' whether in video, print, etc, to expose future children to. Thank you both for great insight and debate.
Always enjoy these conversations. Thanks you guys.
Glenn you need an audio equipment upgrade. Just something to clean stuff up and reduce popping etc. Otherwise great content as always!
I love you two. Thank you for attending to your duty as intellectuals to question and dissect the bizarre ideas and actions of the day. I really feel like these talks are essential to get us through this strange time we're living in.
Always make my day. Thanks guys
Powerful stuff. I love when Glenn talks with such conviction, came out swinging !
This is great. Please make the next one five hours long. And I'm showing self-restraint in my request...
if that were to begin to happen, I'm afraid Glenn would flat out lose his voice.
Or maybe it's no0t his voice, maybe it's his mic...
Love you guys. I enjoy your intellectual conversations. American history is so complex and today a lot of people are being so simple minded when they think about history. I love your comment Glenn "American history is black history, black history is american history"
As Frederick Douglass realized, there was no going back to Africa. Sort of like Russian Jews knowing there was no going back to Czarist Russia.
If Glenn & John were allowed to share their views more in the mainstream media, I think the national conversation would be at a higher level. But they're too intelligent & nuanced for many.
From an Australian brother your video is a breath of fresh air during a time of complete madness.. Thank you,
I missed you guys.
So refreshing. I love to listen to these brilliant men talk from the heart
Go ahead and rename the show "The Dynamic Duo" already! This is easily the best show on You Tube.
These two men are a delight to listen to. My wife is a professor at Brown. I sincerely hope I run into Glenn someday and have the privilege of buying him a drink.
Wish you could clone Glenn and John and replace all the Woke teachers in all US universities with the clones.
Presumably you mean replace those teachers with Glenn and John clones?
@@pauljarski7590 Yes.
Two guys shooting the breeze and it's a joy to watch.Glenn 's passionate rant about his position being borne of an unadulterated meritocracy was music to my ears .
The opposite of victim mentality where every set back is due to someone else's prejudices , these two guys had the brains and work ethic to accomplish great things and they did !
Every day! The world needs you...Every day!
First an apology. I only listened to you guys this week. Now, after listening to two broadcasts, I'm addicted to your sophisticated discussions. Keep it up!
I love you guys. You keep me sane in an insane world.
Professors Loury and McWhorter, thank you so much for the education.
I just saw a video of Bernie Sanders in front of Mt. Rushmore in 2016. They thought it was the most amazing patriotic thing they had ever seen. There was not a peep about racism or slavery in the 2016 Bernie Sanders Mt. Rushmore visit................ What changed? The pandemic happened - meaning the TDS pandemic. Oh, and there is still slavery going on in the world for all of those obsessed by the topic. BLM don't care about that. Thanks for the video - it was very good time spent on this wonderful birthday of America! :)
@@nicebluejay That is one of the videos. Here is a shorter one that makes the point much quicker.
ruclips.net/video/iJgKM61n5rY/видео.html
There is no way in hell, I will ever vote for an MSM-backed Democrat ever again - I have to be able to sleep at night ;)
I absolutely LOVED this discussion. It is tantamount to realizing "I am NOT insane" for believing at some point we have to reconcile with our Country's history, with nuance, understanding, and forgiveness! Our countrymen should deal with the history as one does when eating a wonderful piece of fish-- eat the meat, but remove the bones!
Great conversation as usual, guys. Thanks for keeping me Sane for another day haha.
Thank you both for continuing these honest, open conversations.
Hot DAMN! John's going off! He destroyed the wokeists with FACTS and LOGIC!
But seriously, that bit about going to your grave never getting to experience life as a person was beautiful. John seems to just effortlessly spin a tapestry of eloquent speech at every opportunity.
So thankful for the conversation. Thank you Gentlemen!!
These conversations happen too far apart! Would listen to a weekly show.
The problem is John and Glenn are world class in their respective fields and deserve to devote time to their work. It's unfortunate that these men are so adept and adroit at addressing race relations in this country because it's obvious they're above the caliber of the national conversation.
Love listening to these two men!!
Got into a huge argument today w: husband. He was mad when I said the White Fragility book was destructive to blacks & whites.
If white supremacy means that the British did it better than the Turks or the Chinese(at least up to now) then I say it was something good. The Chinese seems to be trying to follow where the British and Americans have led.
Erika Johnson I struggle with Critical Race Theory oriented teachings in general where groups are labeled oppressors and victims. I don’t think it’s healthy. Dangers and can Promote tribalism.
you guys are doomed...
Erika Johnson have you seen how all of this came to play at Evergreen College in WA abt 3 years ago? Disastrous effects. Brett Weinstein predicted it would spill into society at large. I really didn’t take that too seriously, but it seems to have. DiAngelo was brought to the school for a seminar.
Erika Johnson , in case you don’t know about it. (It wasn’t widely reported on, in fact a friend of mine’s nephew was attending Evergreen at the time & she lives in WA not far and knew NOTHING about it. Here’s a documentary link:
ruclips.net/video/FH2WeWgcSMk/видео.html
By now, I listen to everything these two guys put out! Right after I watch the new ones I keep going catching up old ones.
You guys are way beyond my IQ level and I can't understand most of your complex speech , but I can see in your eyes and hear in your voices that you are both wonderful people and you both share a great passion .. thank you both
dj bradshaw “There was a lot of big words in there...we are but humble pirates.”
I love these guys. This is how smart and lively conversation can be when everything isn't oversimplified and everyone isn't saying only what they think they should say.
I love their facial expressions when either one mentions Coates or Blows lmao
Oh my goodness. Where have you two been my whole life! You two are a revelation and your scholarship is teaching me as I listen to both of you. Thank you for expanding my thought.
Great stuff as always. John has one impressive CD collection.
man, i love you guys. nothing quite hits the spot like you two
When cancel culture comes for these men i pledge that I will donate to them to keep them fighting. Keep going gentlemen.
I love these guys!!!! Intelligent and just calling it like it is. The way conversations about racism should be done.
"Go learn some stuff"
John McWhorter
You're pure gold in my eyes. Glenn's ok too.
thank you, thank you, thank you both. i truly appreciate your honest and thoughtful dialogue and insight. absolutely what we need right now.
0:47 is the best advert for robin diangelo's book i have ever heard.
This is a great conversation even in the pantheon of great Loury/McWhorter conversations. Much respect for the courage John has to write the book in light of the flak he will surely receive. If his professorship does come under threat i know there will be an enormous outpouring of support for John and i'd like to say saner heads will prevail.
Happy 4th of July, Patriots Loury and McWhorter. You guys are on FIRE!
Yes, we do like it, Glenn. In fact, we love your conversations! Thank you both.
You guys are the best.
It’s always an honor listening to your debates about current events!
You have to stand strong John you have a good head on your shoulders and the book club is a darker place without your light
God it's good to listen to a couple guys actually talking, having academic, moral discourse with respect and intellectual enthusiasm.
Yes, talk to Bret Weinstein or James Lindsay and get on Joe Rogan. America needs this.
Thank you for your work here. Your voices are so needed today
Could you please discuss Dr Thomas Sowell’s new book CHARTER SCHOOLS AND THEIR ENEMIES .
@Mark Johhson you need to pick up a copy of Sowell's book asap.
@Mark Johhson obviously you didn't even bother looking into the issue. Increased funding of public schools does not translate into better results. Infact public schools are an embarrassment. Sowell has done a good job laying out the data he gathered and not only were charter schools better for minorities, charter schools out leagued their public counter parts by such a high magnitude, that I had a hard time believing he was still comparing essentially the same fields (education).
Watch his interview at the hoover Institute, to get an idea. Listen to him, think about it and then you can come back and add your two cents.
Damn... Glenn from about 26 min is knife-like. 👏🏻👏🏻 Don't hold back. Love to hear people brave enough to think out loud and unapologetically say how it looks from their perspective.
I love how John gets pissed off when his buddy Glen gets insulted by "Derity." Boys support boys!
This is the guy they are talking about here, his name is William A. Darity. sanford.duke.edu/people/faculty/darity-jr-william
@@gdiebel5 Awesome, thanks! I'm gonna go read his biography and go "tsk," every time I see something I don't like!
@tom young Ugh, ikr? They just bust out these words and concepts I know nothing about and I have to go look em up pronto! But at least we're learning, right? 😁👍🏻
Gentlemen, you are truly honorable. Thank you for speaking truth, please never stop.