this qp hacked is the most fun ive had in OW2 for a long time. This game NEEDS two tanks back in the game. Tanks have duos, supports have duos, but dps has always been more of a solo role
I feel LW suffers the same problem Ana has solo healing in that she heals individually. I think the characters that heal the best are ones you can quickly heal a wide range of people with a burst option such as bapt, moira, and brig.
Top three solo healers in OW2 in order. 1) LifeWeaver- He’s Mercy w self defense cooldowns. Will heal the most of any support solo. Tree and pedal counter strong tank ults. 2)Juno- Highest healing per sec. Second best ult in the game. Multi-target utility. Mobile meta 3)Kiriko- Best Ult in the game. Massive survivability and utility with her literal 4 second cooldowns. Lower healing output for massive increase in firepower and will have the least deaths in every lobby.
This version sucks, but im very interested in kingmaker. With more tanks then that means moira becomes more valuable and she's felt pretty useless for a while. Id like to try her again.
@@BlazeD_7 they are but it's not about that, its just this position where you feel like u have to do everything rigidly. make one bad call and you feel like you trolled, so you end up playing boring. idk maybe that's just me.
@@cokespritewhatever some of us didn't forget, lol. I still remember the days of playing solo-support with 5 dps before role-queue was a thing. The way they would just open their mouths to flame and demand healing without ever touching a single healthpack or using cover. Ugh. Never EVER wanted to return to those dark days. Overwatch just wasnt designed for solo roles.
The only way to play solo support in this game mode is having 2 tanks that can heal themselfs such as Queen and Hog and even then, if they have an Ana or another Queen and ults, you either need a Kiriko to cleanse or have Bap to use that small window with immortality field so the effect of anti heal can dissapear and you can heal your team.
I'm a Support main and this looks like challenging, yet fun at the same time. I wish they would have waited until after Junkenstein Lab's extension though to drop this. That way those of us who have been grinding Junkenstein can still enjoy the full duration of this LTM.
I think one of the ideas they are brainstorming should be great here: the sole role should get a tiny buff as long as he is sole role. So 1 sup should get 300hp or more bullets or reduce cooldown for example.
p sure this mostly doesn't work bc of the whole dps passive as well as the tank passive... yes, self heals help, but you can't have a solo support when the healing is nerfed to hell lmao
@@darraghmcmullen6205 the dps passive already reduces healing by 20% (or 10% for tanks), even with one non critical bullet from, say, a torb or sym turret or even from bob. plus they reduced a looooot of self sustain with supports that can self heal, like ana, illari, or kiriko so it's like. just a shit time all around.
Maybe if they go with this system if a team only has a single support maybe their healing could be increased by 50% or to different necessary levels for each support to be viable and not feel super bad
ML love the videos as always, and the new haircut looks Clean. 😎I think the tests are cool and all, but ultimately 6v6 2-2-2 will always be the best and healthiest format for the game in my opinion. one cool idea to keep everyone happy i think, is make a new mode and call it Arena mode or something, and they can have all formats and mode be in rotation. example: one week you play 5v5 open q or role q, another week it would be 5vs5 king maker, then junkenstiens lab mode with talents, then a 6v6 role limit mode and so on, they can be creative with it. that way the core modes (qp and comp) are 6vs6 with role q and open q and they can have that mode as an extra way for all players to enjoy weekly bases (daily bases) etc...
i randomly tried solo-support in marvel rivals and loki pretty much did his job at keeping my team alive (2 tanks and 3 dpses) to make sure noone dies during intense teamfight i always copied enemy luna snow, and it was pretty challenging to find out of 11 people in the match exactly enemy luna snow somewhere on the enemy backline to copy her i think it would've been much easier to solo-support if i picked luna snow or mantis or rocket, but i'm otp loki and i really wanted to try and find out if loki can solo-support lol he nailed it, and my teammate thor complimented me at the end of the match
People are to stupid and selfish to trust with this. Even if 1 support isn't working people will double down and refuse to maybe even consider to switch to another support
There's no way solo support would be good with randoms. Maybe it could work every once in a while, but most of the time everyone will be dying all around you and you can't do much about it.
and 6v6 is going to be one support, just like this, only with one extra unkillable Tank in the game... should be fun. I started playing support when OW1 had no role queue and just played it because we never had support and seemed to lose because of it.
How is Solo-Support weak????? A bap/kiri/ana/ilari etc are still insaley strong sure brig/zen are worse bc they need a different support Also ofc your team dies when you look at the enemies or go for a stupide flank because SUPPORT WAS NEVER DESIGNED TO DO THIS
Once illari pylon breaks your team is dead or alive and giving up space. Dive a kiriko and both her cds are used in a matter of 5 seconds, ana is strong though as well as bap. I just hate the lack of skill expression for solo support. You are forced to healbot and it kind of makes some characters lose their identity.
Skill issue if your pylon breaks and ofc kiri needs to use her cd`s when she is in anger?? also kiri can easily 1v2 dps so there shouldnt be a problem. Ofc support need to healbot they are called SUPPORT, not DPS not TANK, ofc you cant just dps like a moron when youre alone and thats good. Supports were never designed to have such a high dmg/kill output.
@@David-x2v2kif kiriko could ‘easily’ 1v2 she wouldn’t have one of the lowest win rates in most ranks. Illari pylon gets destroyed so easily as well, I’m pretty sure virus alone can take down her pylon. I promise you solo support would be bad if they don’t nerf tanks or buff support damage or buff their healing. One of the three has to be changed otherwise there would be little skill expression for support and everyone will just end up playing the same 3 characters.
@@katyparislove And thats exactly why people like you shouldnt talk. Winrate mean NOTHING and should NOT be a reason to balance arround, otherwise Genji for example would have been gigabuffed (he was sitting at like maybe 40%) and dont get me started with other hereos. Kiriko has been meta SINCE HER RELEASE. Just because pylon gets destroyed easily by ABILITIES doesnt mean that it doesnt get a huge amount of value if you use 1sec if your brain to place it correctly. And no support would be perfectly fine alone (besides hereos like Zen/Brig/Lucio etc, since they basicaly require a second support) and also support has been gigabuffed in the past and they were the only viable and actualy good/playeble role for 9seasons STRAIGHT. It fent that far that the devs HAD TO GIVE the dps a HEALING REDUCTION PASSIVE to even compete against them and even after all that supports are insanely strong. Also supports dmg should not be buffed THEY ARE SUPPORTS for a reason. Neither dps or tank need to be changed for support to be balance wtf are you on about, on the new 5v5 playtest you can clearly see how little value DPS gets since every tank/support is a better dps
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right?? I saw the thumbnail and was like "who?" our mr strimmer looking extra handsome with the new hairstyle 😌
man's lookin' sharp.
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This new hair!!! Why he kinda…. 😳
he’s always been-
@@dear_nanaaaaong 😂
Wow! That new hairstyle making ml7 look like a whole different type of snack. ❤
Buddy went from a GameStop manager to a BTS member with that new hairstyle.
The cut is CLEAN🙌🏾🙌🏾
Can't wait to solo support with 3 tanks in the upcoming 6v6 mode. Gotta suffer more than Ramattra has.
this qp hacked is the most fun ive had in OW2 for a long time. This game NEEDS two tanks back in the game. Tanks have duos, supports have duos, but dps has always been more of a solo role
Who knew being the only player in a role sucked😂
*puts hand on chest, absolutely shooketh*
New cut who dis
Solo supports really pushes the support into mostly heal-botting. I think Weaver would also be a good choice among the others for solo supporting.
I feel LW suffers the same problem Ana has solo healing in that she heals individually. I think the characters that heal the best are ones you can quickly heal a wide range of people with a burst option such as bapt, moira, and brig.
Top three solo healers in OW2 in order.
1) LifeWeaver- He’s Mercy w self defense cooldowns. Will heal the most of any support solo. Tree and pedal counter strong tank ults.
2)Juno- Highest healing per sec. Second best ult in the game. Multi-target utility. Mobile meta
3)Kiriko- Best Ult in the game. Massive survivability and utility with her literal 4 second cooldowns. Lower healing output for massive increase in firepower and will have the least deaths in every lobby.
This version sucks, but im very interested in kingmaker. With more tanks then that means moira becomes more valuable and she's felt pretty useless for a while. Id like to try her again.
Now we know how tank players feel playing solo
Tanks are Buffed tho
@@BlazeD_7 they are but it's not about that, its just this position where you feel like u have to do everything rigidly. make one bad call and you feel like you trolled, so you end up playing boring. idk maybe that's just me.
@@Glickstick Makes sense. I played solo support and it felt like hell. Especially when the team just walks away to do their own thing
@@cokespritewhatever some of us didn't forget, lol. I still remember the days of playing solo-support with 5 dps before role-queue was a thing. The way they would just open their mouths to flame and demand healing without ever touching a single healthpack or using cover. Ugh. Never EVER wanted to return to those dark days.
Overwatch just wasnt designed for solo roles.
Tanks are raid bosses lmao. And doom fist is a carry character if you know how to play him
ML7 actually got me remembering I’m bi I haven’t found a man attractive in 3 years wtf
The only way to play solo support in this game mode is having 2 tanks that can heal themselfs such as Queen and Hog and even then, if they have an Ana or another Queen and ults, you either need a Kiriko to cleanse or have Bap to use that small window with immortality field so the effect of anti heal can dissapear and you can heal your team.
bro looks like he just came home from hawaii
met a wild mL7 speaking korean on asia servers the other day. but seeing his new cut is 😍
I did not expect the beautiful man bun to go, but this was a good surprise 😳
I'm a Support main and this looks like challenging, yet fun at the same time. I wish they would have waited until after Junkenstein Lab's extension though to drop this. That way those of us who have been grinding Junkenstein can still enjoy the full duration of this LTM.
bro new hair omg????? look so good wtf
New haircut is kinda sickkkk
Damn Mihai new hair style is fire 🔥
This looks like genuine hell against a dive team.
Solo
Support is super sad
Makes my espresso go back to depresso
I actually enjoyed solo support in open q as long my teammates choose strong tanks and no or just 1 dps with lots of dmg output.
HAIR! Damn, looking good with that cut.
your new haircut 🥺
I think one of the ideas they are brainstorming should be great here: the sole role should get a tiny buff as long as he is sole role. So 1 sup should get 300hp or more bullets or reduce cooldown for example.
mL7 haircut...? OH MY GOD DADDY STOPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP
p sure this mostly doesn't work bc of the whole dps passive as well as the tank passive... yes, self heals help, but you can't have a solo support when the healing is nerfed to hell lmao
Heals were nerfed to hell? I haven't been paying attention to patch notes for a while but what are the specifics?
@@darraghmcmullen6205 the dps passive already reduces healing by 20% (or 10% for tanks), even with one non critical bullet from, say, a torb or sym turret or even from bob. plus they reduced a looooot of self sustain with supports that can self heal, like ana, illari, or kiriko so it's like. just a shit time all around.
Juno is the only support has been working for me solo supporting, really like the new hairstyle btw, looks great!
The new hairstyle rocks!! 🎉
Who is this handsome man with excellent support positioning on my screen?
ml looking good with new hair
When you a fein for mL7 Mercy gameplay but mercy sucks 😔
this is just your average open queue match
Looking handsome, bro man
3:24 I swear Zarya is too strong in this mode. Like the Zarya in every lobby is max charge because now they can bubble the swinging Rein every time.
Two supports one dps two tanks is better
Only solo dps can work
Supports should be buffed in this rule like tanks in rank
@@metallikalm4336kingmaker will Buff the solo player. Just gotta wait for that
Maybe if they go with this system if a team only has a single support maybe their healing could be increased by 50% or to different necessary levels for each support to be viable and not feel super bad
ML love the videos as always, and the new haircut looks Clean. 😎I think the tests are cool and all, but ultimately 6v6 2-2-2 will always be the best and healthiest format for the game in my opinion. one cool idea to keep everyone happy i think, is make a new mode and call it Arena mode or something, and they can have all formats and mode be in rotation. example: one week you play 5v5 open q or role q, another week it would be 5vs5 king maker, then junkenstiens lab mode with talents, then a 6v6 role limit mode and so on, they can be creative with it. that way the core modes (qp and comp) are 6vs6 with role q and open q and they can have that mode as an extra way for all players to enjoy weekly bases (daily bases) etc...
Oh, the hair! It looks perfect!
i randomly tried solo-support in marvel rivals and loki pretty much did his job at keeping my team alive (2 tanks and 3 dpses)
to make sure noone dies during intense teamfight i always copied enemy luna snow, and it was pretty challenging to find out of 11 people in the match exactly enemy luna snow somewhere on the enemy backline to copy her
i think it would've been much easier to solo-support if i picked luna snow or mantis or rocket, but i'm otp loki and i really wanted to try and find out if loki can solo-support lol
he nailed it, and my teammate thor complimented me at the end of the match
out of all supports loki is the only canonical prince
so i could say he's the only true healbot princess
You would think they would use one less dps instead of one less support but I guess not.
The mercy movement was S tier
Yeah back before role queue, I solo Mercy'd a lot or Solo Winston'd and 3 dps and 1 support/1 tank on whatever I wasn't on
It was so baddddddddd
People are to stupid and selfish to trust with this. Even if 1 support isn't working people will double down and refuse to maybe even consider to switch to another support
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There's no way solo support would be good with randoms. Maybe it could work every once in a while, but most of the time everyone will be dying all around you and you can't do much about it.
Either that or the enemy team just decides to jump you all game since the team will immediately fall apart without healing.
WAAIT THE HAIR? 😳😳
Moira can use tap tech to get resources more quicker
who tf is this young handsome man 😳?!?!?!?!?!?
looking really handsome
Who is this handsome man?
u look great my guy!
I feel like 2 tanks 2 supports and 1 dps is the way to go lolll idk why people pick 2 dps……
NOOOOOO ML7 WHY DID YOU CUT YOUR HAIR??? 😭😭😭 i LOVED the long hair but this new style is also really cute!! you look fabulous!! 😍😍😍
The hair is looking good brother! Hopefully you experiment with the beard too unless you’re growing it out for a personal reason
LOOKIN GOOD ML!!
I think Juno’s good in this mode because she has a multi auto lock ana nade
Nice hair cut
HAIR?
Yeah solo support is not viable if the whole team is playing brawl. Need to have one or two self sustain/flanker heroes
Like the hair
and 6v6 is going to be one support, just like this, only with one extra unkillable Tank in the game... should be fun.
I started playing support when OW1 had no role queue and just played it because we never had support and seemed to lose because of it.
Dva eating attacks while the other tank melts you…. Not playing that lol😊
Literally my whole OW1 in QP and Comp before role lock go introduced. Still hate a lot of yall for how it was back then
I wanna see awkward on solo support lol
I dont get why some players who play this mode go for two dps like why not just go qp role queue?
better than solo tank imho
Mode would be a lot better if it was 6v6.
Bro cass is broken this season
I LOVE YOUR HAAAAAIR
WHY IS THERE TWO TANKS?
qp hacked, its in open queue
Omg you look so good and cute, and adorable 😭I love it.
I LOVE YOU YOU ARE SO CUTE WTFFFFF
How is Solo-Support weak????? A bap/kiri/ana/ilari etc are still insaley strong
sure brig/zen are worse bc they need a different support
Also ofc your team dies when you look at the enemies or go for a stupide flank because SUPPORT WAS NEVER DESIGNED TO DO THIS
Once illari pylon breaks your team is dead or alive and giving up space. Dive a kiriko and both her cds are used in a matter of 5 seconds, ana is strong though as well as bap. I just hate the lack of skill expression for solo support. You are forced to healbot and it kind of makes some characters lose their identity.
Skill issue if your pylon breaks and ofc kiri needs to use her cd`s when she is in anger?? also kiri can easily 1v2 dps so there shouldnt be a problem. Ofc support need to healbot they are called SUPPORT, not DPS not TANK, ofc you cant just dps like a moron when youre alone and thats good. Supports were never designed to have such a high dmg/kill output.
@@David-x2v2kif kiriko could ‘easily’ 1v2 she wouldn’t have one of the lowest win rates in most ranks. Illari pylon gets destroyed so easily as well, I’m pretty sure virus alone can take down her pylon. I promise you solo support would be bad if they don’t nerf tanks or buff support damage or buff their healing. One of the three has to be changed otherwise there would be little skill expression for support and everyone will just end up playing the same 3 characters.
@@katyparislove And thats exactly why people like you shouldnt talk. Winrate mean NOTHING and should NOT be a reason to balance arround, otherwise Genji for example would have been gigabuffed (he was sitting at like maybe 40%) and dont get me started with other hereos. Kiriko has been meta SINCE HER RELEASE. Just because pylon gets destroyed easily by ABILITIES doesnt mean that it doesnt get a huge amount of value if you use 1sec if your brain to place it correctly. And no support would be perfectly fine alone (besides hereos like Zen/Brig/Lucio etc, since they basicaly require a second support) and also support has been gigabuffed in the past and they were the only viable and actualy good/playeble role for 9seasons STRAIGHT. It fent that far that the devs HAD TO GIVE the dps a HEALING REDUCTION PASSIVE to even compete against them and even after all that supports are insanely strong. Also supports dmg should not be buffed THEY ARE SUPPORTS for a reason. Neither dps or tank need to be changed for support to be balance wtf are you on about, on the new 5v5 playtest you can clearly see how little value DPS gets since every tank/support is a better dps
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