I like that Jimmy's online persona is Flamebird because the mantle was made in an old comic where Clark and Jimmy had to take on new superhero identities to avoid being recognized so they became Nightwing (Before Grayson did) and Flamebird
Yeah Nightwing and Flamebird were the handles Superman and Jimmy respectively used for their adventures in the Bottled City of Kandor in the wacky Silver Age 1960's books. And Dick took the Nightwing mantle specifically because he wanted to be more like Superman, brighter and hopeful
They really should have addressed Louis gaslighting Clark into revealing himself more with her apologizing. Feels like they glossed over it so they could be a couple faster. With Clark coming off as the one in the wrong.
They do kinda (she ends up apologizing) but it is more general things Lois in different adaptations do to get Clark to admits than specifically pure problems in that show
The point you made in the beginning is it. "Just goes to show that characters don't need to be race or gender swapped to be completely unrecognizable." What happens are characters are taken and changed to make their show and we have to deal with it. With the follow-up about spawn being the finisher. To often "they" have an idea of what should entertain us based on what they like, how it should be done and we aren't allowed to enjoy things until they are corrected.
@@Persephone_07 The mjtanner channel kind of got it's start with it's she-ra videos and the drama about that, how the characters were changed and how badly the show creators acted.
@@cts1234567 Okay, I just think it's dangerous to go with a "They" outlook on something. Because it seems like a way to dehumanize a creator. Just because a show runner had a certain outlook doesn't mean all do.
@@Persephone_07 I'm gonna have to disagree on that one, since Superman is a way better man than Batman will ever be no matter how rich or handsome he is
I hate how they copied the "Lois threatens suicide if Clark Kent doesn't prove he's Superman" bit from the comics and even the Richard Donner Superman movies verbatim without y'know, CRITIQUING Lois's selfish short sighted actions. Not only is an outdated element from the source material, but with how serious the topic of suicide is taken these days both in real life as well as in media, you would think they'd have this Clark Kent calmly talk Lois Lane out of throwing herself off a building just to make a point while also confirming Lois's suspicions without making it obvious that yes, Clark Kent and Superman are never seen in the same room together. Basically play to Kal El's empathy for the human race which is the key reason why he's Superman, not because of his powers. Then you could have had Lois Lane now knowing for certain her boyfriend is the same guy she's been searching for as a reporter break down in tears as she lets out her personal problems that led to her threatening to game end herself in the first place while Clark Kent consoles her like the Superman he is. But wait, I forgot, you can't have a man be a woman's rock in her hour of need in modern western entertainment now can you? Nah, its always gotta be "strong independent woman" stereotype being validated for having an objectively toxic personality by Twitter buffoons and said toxic behavior being rewarded as we saw here in My Adventures with Superman or before that, the animated adaptation of Invincible with the main protagonist's girlfriend whose name escapes me at the moment. Or worse, people like Godzilla Mendoza, yes, the Spider-Man RUclipsr, defending Lois Lane's selfish decision because "well it happened in the comics" when he of all people should know better than that since just because "it happened in the comics" doesn't mean its worth adapting wholesale in an adaptation.
I really liked GM's past videos though in his Invincible review he did oddly dance around bringing up Amber (annoying gf) and how she differed greatly from the comic and regardless was an annoying asshole. Understandably, he didn't seem to delve to deep into critiquing identity politics but a recent review on modern Spider-Man comics showed he doesn't seem to care much for fans who critique identity politics or something to that regard.
Except you missed the whole point and Lois was in fact not validated. Her ambitious yet aggressive nature is what caused her to make such a rash decision, a characteristic that we’ve seen throughout the series time and time again either for the better or worse, in fact it’s what got her so far as a reporter. But in the outcome it turned out for the worse causing both sides to depart, but when they get back together and in the very end who apologizes? Lois Lane. She wasn’t rewarded for her “toxic” behavior despite it being understandable(not right but understandable), how the man that she loved might have just used her and lied to her despite both promising each other no more lies. But its not like she completely disregarded Clark like how Amber disregarded Mark, they still talked to each other and in the very end she heard everything Clark had to say from his point of view and apologized. The reason it took so long was due to her seeing Clark and Superman as 2 separate entities, Lois didn’t entirely trust Superman but trusted Clark hence why when Clark claimed Superman was a guy who does good because it’s the right thing Lois declines and says that if only Clark were Superman that he would do such a thing but since Superman had so much to hide she believed that he was rather up to something, so you could imagine the shock on Lois when Clark turned out to be Superman, a person she didn’t trust was the person she trusted. It’s not an outdated element, it’s just not used right but here in this show it was used right, the reason for you saying otherwise is rather due to looking at it from the surface level. Not trying to insult or anything but just don’t go around judging to quickly👍
The characters are so radical different from their original counterparts, it could have been just a new show. Like She-Ra and the Princesses of Power. I do not understand, why we constantly have to bring old shows back, but change everything about it. Why not create new stuff from begin with? The west really needs new shows. It is not only America, Europe also rebooted Oggy and the Cockroaches, and also Totally Spies gets a sort of “reboot” next year. Where did all the creativity go?
To be fair when came to She Ra I'm glad the reboot existed because that character hasn't been seen in decades most people don't even know who the character is
@animezilla4486 That reboot was an insult to the original cartoon. Watching it will not give people an idea of what She-Ra is actually like. For starters, she and Catra are supposed to be bitter enemies, not in a pseudo romantic relationship.
@@Rocket1377 I think the reboot was way better than original for one thing the Netflix version decide to make the characters teenagers with the exception of the ice princess being 5 to 10 years old while the original was mostly adults and their personalities were not that great
I think you really hit the nail on the head with the art style critique, I really think it feels really sporadic and unfocused. It's funny though, because Teen Titans was the first DC cartoon to use an anime aesthetic 20 years ago and it made complete sense for that series in a way that felt thematically cohesive. Most people would simply say they made that show look like an anime because of the medium's boom of popularity in the early 2000s, but thematically it really uses that sort of contemporary zeitgeist to its advantage. It's a series with an inherently more youthful and adolescent vibe to it unlike most DC shows at the time, so using the aesthetics of what most teens were into at the time (anime, which was being widely broadcast in the west on the same channel TT was airing) not only fits the teen cast but the redesigns were strong and iconic enough to hold their own weight and has become arguably the most iconic form of the characters they adapted. With this show, it feels more like the series is visually just copying She-Ra and Voltron's homework regardless of whether or not it works or makes sense for the character or universe
@ink1931 This is sad because as an anime fan and DC Comics fans I assumed that Teen Titans carried its soft anime aesthetic to bank on anime's popularity at the time. What's worst is as an artist it never occurred to me that the artists took advantage of the aesthetic by implementing elements that gave the characters their youthful appearances. That said you're right in how My Adventures With Superman goes with an aesthetic too similar to She-Ra and Voltron. That's why I disagree with J about the people who worked on this being more of fans of anime than DC. But I'm forgetting that there are a variety of fans, and how some lack the understanding of how art aesthetics work.
I have so many mixed feelings for this show. I really love Clark/Superman's portrayal, they got him so right. Plus, his group dynamic with Jimmy and Lois is pretty strong and is probably when the show is at its best. However, the villain are pretty bad in both designs and characters, the pacing is schizophrenic, and the growing romance between him and Lois, while conceptually sound, feels kinda rushed. I'm hoping that the next season listens to the criticism and makes a stronger series when it returns.
Yeah, I feel the same, and I do hope they fix the villain problem, especially since brainix and zod are coming. But I will give this show the benefit of the doubt that this is a lot more of a slow burn for them to be how they used to like being true meta humans instead of relying on technology.
I think the problem is the short season format. Credit where it's due: the writers of this show did actually tell a complete story within the confines of just 10 episodes, unlike Dave Filoni with his Ahsoka. He has only 8 episodes but treats them as part of a full 24 episodes season and drags the pacing and stretches the heck out of the story. The writers of My adventures with Superman on the other hand are competent enough and respectful for the audience's time so they do give us set up and pay off for all the story beats and tell us quite a lot of stories in the 10 episodes they were given. It would have been better if they had full tv style seasons to work with. They deserve it and the show would have been better for it, I think...
What's especially hilarious/frustrating is that Slade's MAWS design would have been fine on either of his sons, particularly Joey who the "anime pretty boy" aesthetic works better with. How he looked in Knights & Dragons and the TT Earth One series is already close to how Slade looks in this cartoon. That's another thing, not happy this seems to be another version that ignores how his family plays a big part in his character l, including his eye lost but that's the least surprising to see happen.
Yeah I can't relate. I only because a 'fan' of Death Stroke, after he saved his daughter and tried to save his son. However, if I had to say anything about THIS version of the Anti-Villain, it's that the writers can still do alot with this character. He starts off mysterious and composed with his job, believing he is part of the Good Guys. Then he ends up -with his eye injured- and standing by Waller. He was hurt, and seems too young to be affected by the Zero Day incident. Who is he? Why does he work in this millitary branch? Is he gonna get backstabbed by Waller? How will he backstab Waller?
I think the main issue people have with this show, with how it does Superman is that it does things differently. It's not just the anime influence, or Clark not being able to bench press mountains, it's how they handle things like characters, liike the villains being all tech base, with two villains being made into allies and even how Krypton is handled. Instead of Clark knowing about his Kryptonian heritage, understanding it, it is instead a source of conflict/drama for him, as he sees it as this inhuman aspect of himself he wants to escape from, represented by Jor-El not speaking English I think. It is very clearly a Superman story, but yet it is also very different, but I think a majority of those differences were done because they had a specific kind of story in mind to tell. I think there is a reason the main antagonists are Ivo/Parasite and the General. The first is a proto-Luther, hell many suspect his assistent 'Alex' will be wearing a lot of green down the line, and he is also direct a foil for each other. Clark is an alien with inhuman powers but a lot of humanity, and Ivo is a human with alien tech and lacking in humanity. Clark helps, Ivo is a 'parasite' only interested in himself. It is different, and intentionally and I'm honestly interested in seeing how they continue in season 2.
Everything being tech and robots is a throwback that is showing people's ages- it's Golden Age stuff. The staff said a lot of influence is from the Max Fleischer cartoons of the early 1940s, and back in the Golden Age Superman fought a lot of goofy robots....when he wasn't being used a war propaganda figure fighting Nazis and Japanese. And the bigger revisions to characters were reserved for people who weren't that critical to Superman: Dr Ivo being used as Parasite is fine because Ivo's been dead or irrelevant way longer than he was ever depicted alive and threatening in his own capacity, he's only known more as "the guy that built Amazo"; The Brain and Monsieur Mallah are from the Doom Patrol, they never really crossed paths with Superman stuff and they've basically been a married couple since the 60s...them just being irresponsible but endearing mad scientists instead of running the Brotherhood of Evil should really be no skin off anybody's back, etc. The people who mattered most are played pretty straight when considering they are making a Year One style story, those being General Lane and Amanda Waller- Lane's a little more tempered compared to his absolutist jarhead persona in the comics but it's fine for the role they need him to play when they keep Waller as true-form as she should be....and they could always pull out General Wade Eiling to be the even more brutal hardcore military meathead who thirsts to kill everything America can't literally control...the guy who made Major Force and would eagerly put his mind into the Shaggy Man's body or juice himself on Captain Nazi serum, depending on the continuity, if it let him destroy the Justice League for not being subservient to the US government. At the end of the day, they're trying not to just rehash the exact same origin story and material we've seen a million times already but show they've definitely done their homework, know the characters they're working with, and care about what they're making. Shit like Jimmy being a radically new design for example really shouldn't matter when the second he starts talking you can immediately see he's still the same goober we understand "Jimmy Olsen, Superman's Pal" is supposed to be...even his damn youtube channel is old dank Superman fluff references- Flamebird is a Kryptonian mythical space-dragon Jimmy Olsen used as a handle when he and Superman were having adventures in the Bottled City of Kandor back in the 60's, Superman was Nightwing (which was expressly where Dick Grayson got the name after leaving the Robin role)
Can't speak for others, but that's definitely not my main issue with it. I hate the fact that they've completely twisted every aspect of every character, both in looks and personality. It's not a Superman show in anything but name, so why would I watch it when the only thing that got me interested was the idea that I'd be watching a Superman show?
One thing I don’t appreciate is how the characters all act like teenagers despite being grown adults. Guess we’ll still be hanging onto that “using cartoons to relive the romanticized memory of your high school life” bit for a while.
Superman in anime? On paper, it's a far stretch. Overall, My Adventures with Superman is alright. Could be worse. Also, Thank you for that shoutout mjtanner. Always good to help channels that I totally love and respect.
In diffence of Mr. Mxyzptlk 5th dimensional beings can most likely change their appearance to match whatever universe they go to. He did it in CWs' Supergirl.
I agree. I will add, that some people see this version as a twink and just stop there. To me, if I saw a small elf alien thing, I would be massively afraid.
@@blueotter5954 Idk, projects looking exactly like this (Voltron, for one) have been exploiting exactly the same aesthetic for "otherworldly/higher beings". It's just another elf-like thing in drapes. Far from as entertaining as The Gargoyles' Puck (who actually is supposed to be a fae), and without teeth in it's bite, unlike SAS's Mr. Mxyzptlk. Guy's supposed to be looking irritating, instead we get a generic, boring, pretty elf.
@@dohavename6775 Yeah that's not a coincidence, some folks who worked on Voltron also currently work on this show. Also, it was just recently brought up that Lois looking like Luz is because someone who worked on the Owl House is now working on My Adventures with Superman.
I'm more upset about how they completely butchered his personality and powers. He's supposed to be a trickster, more mischievous out of boredom than actually evil. And he can change reality itself, but literally all we saw from him is teleportation and laser blasts. They took an interesting character that was already written for them, and they made him as bland and unimaginative as themselves.
watched the first five episodes and enjoyed how they did Clark. Felt that Jimmy was a little to out there even for jimmy. The Clark/Lois Romance felt more like middle school or early high school crushes. felt weird since they are shown to be out of their family's homes and working full time.
Fuck I hate this stupid trope with modern writing, especially in superhero stories where a character somehow figures out the superheroes identity out of their ass and then hate the hero character for keeping that identity a secret. It's like people never use any common sense as to why certain superheroes keep their identities a secret for a very good reason. In Spectacular Spider-Man George Stacy even mentioned in one of the episodes why Spider-Man keeps his identity a secret and it isn't because he has something to hide, but something to ptotect.
Agreed, it's some manner of entitlement inherent to these characters. Maybe someone just doesn't want you in their life in This capacity, getting your nose into their alter-ego business. Wonder Woman, for example, understood that from Batman's aloof "I don't know what you're talking about" and maintained her distance from Bruce Wayne's persona until Bruce became comfortable/practical with unmasking to the League in JL animated series.
whats annoying is that we have much fanart clearly done in an anime style but most of them are still clearly very much the characters superman looks like superman , metallo looks metallo ,silver banshee etc... i have no problem with a superman anime but at least before you make them into anime base them off the actual characters especially the villains look nothing like the dc versions and i saw plenty of anime fanart of these who still look very much like the dc characters just in an anime style
It's not necessarily hate. On either Lex or Bruce's point. Definitely not for Bruce or Bats would have nothing to do with him. There's a line from I believe the comic Hush - or one of the ones where he's using Kyrptonite to win; and he shares with the audience that he KNOWS the only real reason he ever has done is BECAUSE Clark ALWAYS hold back. "Because at the end, at the heart of it - he's a good person. And when it comes down to it, I'm not." Lex does genuinely hate that Superman is the literal manifestation of everything he wants to be, that he can never attain naturally. Even as an 11th level intellect with more money than God. He is afraid of the one man on earth that basically is a living God. (Also directly descended from one - unless that's been retconned? o.O ) Bruce is frankly more rightly afraid of what all Clark COULD do. If he chose to, and if he was just that little bit more actually human. He's jealous that Clark is as good a man as he is, because it holds a mirror up to the lie Bruce lives. Which is really only enforced by his strict code of honor. Bruce also as much as they butt heads for being two alpha males, respects the ever-loving hell out of him. There's a reason for the impact when Clark gives Bruce the Kryptonite Bullet in the comic Tower of Babel. Both of them know that if push came to shove and Superman did ever actually go that dark; Bruce would not have the reaction time to be able to use it. At all. The offering is more a safety blanket, to the broken kid still inside of Bruce, who needs it. From his best friend. True blue, to the end. Because Clark is aware of the scars he has, and knows very well that matters to Bruce. It's symbolic rather than practical. Like a talisman shared between them. There are a LOT of people that misunderstand the hell out of Supes. Because when you examine him, and everything he SHOULD be... not just in what he can do; what he's been through, who he is, how he was raised. What he chooses to do with the power he has... we should all be DAMNED thankful that he is exactly as benevolent as he is. [I also appreciate that while it makes him look weaker, what he's actually doing is feeling out what the enemy can dish out, and potentially take. So he knows how much to put out himself. That way he doesn't inadvertantly maim or kill an opponent in battle. Though it does make him take a few more hits than he really has to] He also has been quoted in that show - and the Darkseid Speech is pretty much one of my favorite scenes in that whole series by the way - as saying; I'm the shield for all of you. Because I can take the hits you can't. I'll take them, so you don't have to. Or something to that effect.
I thought the Council Of Lois was dumb because Lois is a reporter, not a scientist, but the fact that they tried to hunt down Superman because their versions turned evil is even Dumber
Also Lois is not a superhero. As pointed out in the video, it would have made more sense to have a league of multiverse Batman ( or another DC superhero character) to deal with Superman, not an ordinary average Jane like Lois who is *Superman's love interest*.
It's nice to have a superman movie/show in which Superman is, you know, actually Superman. But I don't have HBOmax, so I can't watch the show to see for myself.
It's not worth it. None of the other characters are the least bit recognizable, and the fact that the show wants you to just accept that they're the same people is insulting
I don't know, man. Aside from his blue skin, he doesn't really look all that much out of place from the other characters in this show. What made his design work in stuff like the DCAU, was because he looks way more cartoon and weird compared to Superman and the other characters. If they really wanted to make him a bizarre character in this art style, they should have amped up the anime-esque tropes with him. Basically turn him into what your parents/grandparents think of when you tell them what anime is (Speed Racer, Astro Boy, Dragon Ball, etc).
Truthfully, I quit the show after the episode with brain. I just preferred the man of tomorrow movie over this. The changes to certain characters and their designs were getting a little too much for me and I didn't feel like sticking around for the Clark/Lois stuff (which I did like). Also my expectations (probably not the right word) for Superman's character has been shifting lately. I agree that grim superman is done a lot now and that we need more classic, but I also don't want it to be 100% classic. I've been wanting more of a middle ground between the two and I've only gotten that in DCAMU's death of superman.
I watched the first 5-6 episodes, and I really appreciated most of the takes on main characters, and the general vibe of the show being more in line with classic Superman. But just a few episodes in and had the STRONG impression that the directors and various leads behind this series were very fresh; with little-to-no experience, and almost as if on queue I came across a post on twitter by one of the screen writers (I believe it was the head screen writer) posting about how they were so excited to have their first big job, and that pretty much sealed my assumption that this was a team of fresh faces. That's not an issue though; everyone's got to start somewhere, but it felt too derivative to me, like they had very few ideas that were their own, so they were just plugging in designs and tropes from things they knew to fill in the many, many gaps that were left, and then there were a ton of shots and scene sequences that made no logical sense, and it collectively just pulled me out of the show too much to care to finish it; and I'm a moderately dedicated Superman fan. That said, I hope they do get a second season, so that they can put what they hopefully learned from working on this season to make a better, more refined extension of this promising project.
I agree with most of MJ’s points on the show. I do enjoy it for the most part. I believe they needed more than 10 episodes. The season finale felt more like a mid season finale. Plus I was hoping the reveal at the end would’ve been a different character instead of who they chose. I do like that Superman/ Clark feels more like Superman than he has in a while (minus the animated movies). I do like the Lois & Clark relationship. It’s interesting enough for me to watch a 2nd season.
The whole mid-season finally thing you feel is probably true, a lot of seasons are broken up even a long time ago. Seasons were 52 episodes in some cases but mostly around 26, the 10-14 episodes are a Netflix binge thing. Release a lot of episodes at once but do more releases. Also M and J are different people and refers to the fact that they were reviewing shows as twins, this was all J as the letter on the shirt.
There's a kind of story that's a hero's journey, where the challenge is for the young character to face challenges and mature, to become a grown man. But I think Superman, like The Lone Ranger, or John Carter, or Tarzan, or Kenshiro (Fist of the North Star), is already a grown man, and his values are strong. The point of stories about these types of characters is that they help people, and they change the world for the better. It's not about "Will they make the right decisions?"
you could say zack snyder started this by making him more human and vulnerable than the donner version, the problem is he keep making bad desions all the time and even saying out of character lines like "Krypton had its chance!" (yeah i hope Zod dosn't take that personally), and by the look of the snyderverse he wasn't planing to make him better he was planing to make him evil to get to the injustice saga just to make batman look better. At least this superman has a mix between good decisions and bad decisions
I think when people say ''Western animation needs to learn from anime.'' this isn't what they have in mind. They usually mean better animation, better writing, and better action. Not sailor moon-like transformation and ''funny'' faces. It's too anime for me. It tires way too hard to be ‘’kawaii desu’’. Bummer that there is no lyrics in the opening and the music doesn't feel like anything Superman. It's just a generic guitar. At least there is an intro instead of just a title card. We need the art of the opening songs back. The early 2000s and 2010s had the right idea: Totally spies Winx Club Ben 10 W.I.T.C.H. Teen Titans Thundercats 2011 TMNT
I disagree there was nothing wrong with Superman's transformation it just goes to show you that the riders just love anime if there's anything wrong with that ? Besides it's not the first time the animators pay homage to sailor moon's transformation it was also reference in teen Titans versus Justice League
@@harlannguyen4048Because most of the people who write these shows are only familiar with Sailor Moon....and very little else. I think I saw a video about that once by the RUclipsr.....C-Puff, I believe she was called? About how when it comes to anime like scenes and references 9 times out of 10 you get something like Superman or Dragon Ball, simply because people are the most familiar with those. And, I agree, it's kinda boring.
Why do multiverse stories having a superhero league comprised of only one person insted of diffrent versions of diffrent heroes or just having all heroes across the multiverses?
In defense of Snyder’s take on Superman, the point there was to give Superman an arc where he goes from someone unsure of his place in the world to being the ideal hero. You see parts of that in Zack Snyder’s Justice League and it would’ve culminated in the grand finale had the original plan been followed. It’s more like Superman going on a Luke Skywalker-esque Hero’s Journey to becoming the ideal hero (and without the treatment Disney gave Luke in the Sequels, at least with the original ending). Was probably the best way to reconcile the two views on Superman. He’s still the ideal hero at the end, but since we see his journey getting there, growing and going through a lot of problems, it feels earned. Unfortunately, executive meddling cut all that down, pleasing no one.
Alot of people rip on zack but for his portrayal of superman. But i personally think it does make for a realistic interpretation of a being with superpowers who grows into his true self while also seeing the realistic depictions of how people would see him as a god. I do think people can be abit to harsh on his different interpretation and i believe he did understand the characters and it was a growth the characters would go through.
@@lostonegrey1555 Yeah. Again, the entire point was for Superman to become the hero. So that way he can have struggles and doubt himself, even going through the lowest point in BvS like Luke did in ESB, but still comes out the end the hero. There’s also a lot of Watchmen influence there, and while Dr. Manhattan eventually lost his humanity and didn’t gain it back until it was too late, Superman never lost it and he saves the day at the end. That’s definitely inspiring, and the dark harshness beforehand does make the final heroism feel sweeter.
I love Superman/Clark, been a Long-Time Fan of the Character ever since I was young. I also really dig Anime but man... After many Years since "Superman: TAS" I was very disappointed in the show. While I liked SOME things from it like Supes/Clark himself, Black Jimmy, & trying to be more SliceOfLife-ish but everything else for me falls apart. I HATE the implementation of the "Kryptonian Language" (more like Gibberish) that I find to be pointless so I have to disagree that it was a "Nice Change" since in previous iterations we see Hologram Jor-El speak English regardless & moves the plot organically forward (like in the Classic Superman Films & Man Of Steel). The Villains being drawn & written were the worse offenders making the Story suffer drastically (Suicide Squad vs. Superman... Enough with that nonsensical idea). I STRONGLY agree how they handled the Multiverse here because it was rushed, contrived, & not much to be bothered with.
I didn’t entirely hate My Adventures With Superman, but there was a lot I felt the show could’ve improved on. The plot feels clunky and rushed. There are things that the story should’ve spent more time developing and other things that could’ve been left out entirely until later (like the multiverse). Also, none of the villains stand out in terms of their design, personality, or motivations, and I found them all to be rather bland. Their fights were also not great. In almost every fight scene, the villain has some obvious weakness, and then once that’s dealt with, Superman punches them, and the fight is over. I think they wrote it that way so Lois and Jimmy would have opportunities to help, but there were more creative ways to do that. The best example of this is what they did with Mr. Mxyzptlk (Spoilers for episode 7). Since Mr. Mxyzptlk’s original character is that he’s this all-powerful multidimensional being, but he’s neither omnipotent nor super intelligent. So, the best way to defeat him is by exploiting his egocentric and mischievous personality and outsmarting him into losing his own game. In most versions, the way to defeat him is by tricking him into saying his name backward, but there are many other games/challenges a writer could come up with. In My Adventures With Superman, they made Mr. Mxyzptlk’s weakness his hat. Taking off his hat makes him weaker. Thats it. It’s just such a boring and disappointing change, especially since Mr. Mxyzptlk is technically one of the characters that Lois or Jimmy could defeat on their own if they devised a unique way to outsmart him. It’s just that I felt like My Adventures With Superman had a lot of potential that got wasted.
The villains are the main reason I couldn't get into the show, there all very meh. I'm definitely not excited for there version of lex, I doubt they'll do him justice.
While I'm okay with how CADMUS is more about genetic engineering/cloning in this, that's because I'm familiar enough with the books to know that how they normally are while the DCAU merged CADMUS with Checkmate. Most of the other changes, I will say, don't really click with me. A lot of the designs feel kinda poor and making almost every villain tech based while they were metahumans in other things was bizarre. With Silver Banshee and Deathstroke, I got the feeling that the creators cared more about having characters that looked like Ryoko from Tenchi or Gray Fox from Metal Gear than trying to adapt the characters. Besides, Superman already has a bunch of tech based villains like Metallo and Toyman, so why not use one of them? I get the feeling some of the writers didn't get the troubling issues how Mallah and Brain are in this show because they were too focused on having a gay ship. I've sadly seen that happen in other shows like She-Ra, and several of the people here also worked on She-Ra. Make of that what you will.
I don't understand your complaint about The Brain and Monsieur Mallah; they've been a gay couple since the original Doom Patrol in the 60s. All that was changed about them was they're not running the Brotherhood of Evil and are instead just irresponsible but kinda charming mad scientists....they're Doom Patrol nonsense, nobody's protective of the Doom Patrol's integrity, not even Grant Morrison when he revived their serial after they were all dead for 20 years. This was Brain and Mallah played pretty true-to-form but with Mallah having a silly Mr Rogers kind of air to him with the sweater instead of a bandolier of bullets and a beret
3:31 I will say that Smallive did it better portraying Superman. Casting him as a teenage really connect for the audience back then, because he not only he was learning his power, but also dealing personal issues being lying his love ones about his true idenfity, his relationship with Lux, school life, losing friends & family, dealing other superpower people, learn ing his action/word have consequence, etc. The show really did excellent good on Superman/Clark kent character as whole and even other characters too.
Lately it feels like nobody wants to make the shows that they've been asked to make. This show clearly wants to be a mecha anime. The people behind thundercats Roar just wanted to do a show for the 5-8 audience. ND Stevenson actively hated the original She-ra. I'm doubtful that whoever made lower decks had even watched star trek. Hollywood actresses apparently hate the old Disney movies that they've been asked to help remake. Nobody is happy to just be a part of a creative endeavour anymore. It all has to suit their exact tastes and interests.
The emphasis on tech and pots-and-pans robots is because their stated influence is the Golden Age- especially the Max Fleischer cartoon- and the kinda wacky early Silver Age material- which are pretty ideal for the Year One style story they were making. Superman, and the JSA and JLA in general, fought a lot of silly robots back then, he also wasn't so powerful back then either; most throwaway villains of that era were mad scientists and that included most of the original Justice Society foes. Even things the Shaggy Man, who are (because there's at least 3 of them) hilariously still framed as a threat the JLA even at their modern senses of scale can't defeat, were the results of freak weird science accidents. But there's also a practical story purpose for everyone being more tech based instead of being metahumans in that it connects all the antagonists together and into the main plot of the whole failed Kryptonian invasion from decades earlier.
Loved Clark's portrayal. The villans left alot to be desired. Ironically I actually liked anime Mr. Mxyzptlk. Despite his weird design he did feel like the character
While he looks nothing like any past design, the moment he introduces himself and starts talking, it clicks "Yeah that's him all right" Same with a lot of these radical redesigns for main characters- they still get who these characters are and what makes them, them. Jimmy's still a complete goober that is recognizably "Jimmy Olsen: Superman's Pal" even if he's not a pasty ginger in this incarnation. I still can't get over Lois looking so much like Luz from the Owl House, but that's more about me meming than genuinely disliking it, the shorthaired tomboy look works; she's definitely still recognizably the standard takes-no-shit Lois Lane characterization, just younger to match this Year One style story. As for the villains, the only ones who really matter in my opinion were General Lane and Amanda Waller, who are pretty spot on. Lane's a bit softer in this, and that's fine too since they want him to serve as a contrast to Waller's classic ruthlessness and frankly there's so many other stubborn military jarheads in the DC IPs just like classic Lane if they want to go back to that, like General Eiling (who is the one simply being called The General usually refers to anyway). But Livewire, Silver Banshee, Mist, Heatwave...they're throwaways in their story presence and again, that's fine for a Year One story...Deathstroke being a young prettyboy feels odd to me but again, it's not some fatal offense and it ended with him setting up to segue into a look more matching his iconic design and character (assuming they do play into that his employer literally set up the scenario that just disfigured him, any played straight Deathstroke would not simply tolerate that). All that aside, I really liked what they did with The Brain and Monsieur Mallah...sure they just threw out the Brotherhood of Evil, but Mallah as a mad scientist Mr Rogers was delightful. My final assessment is that while they changed a lot, the staff show they do KNOW where it all came from and show they do care about the material while reinventing it to not just be the same shit we've seen a million times already. Even the idea that most of these enemies are tech based villains and boxy pots and pans robots is right out of the Golden Age comics- Superman mainly fought goofy robots (when he wasn't fighting Nazis or the Japanese) in those and in the Max Fleischer cartoon...they even had Clark punching a beam weapon out of the way like in the Fleischer show.
It was hard to get through 2 episodes so I dropped it. I also saw more of the designs this show has and I can safely say I hate 99% of the designs of the characters in this show.
I said this on another video about this topic, but I feel like they should have replaced Slade with Metallo since A: Metallo is a Superman associated villain and not a Batman or Justice League associated one, since Deathstroke is most commonly known for being a Batman or Justice league villain. B: It could open up a storyline about Metallo being a big name in the mercenary world, but he gets easily thrashed by Superman because Superman is superhuman. Then you can have a kind of arc where he slowly starts augmenting himself to match Superman until eventually he goes full Metallo. I also have to painfully agree with the livewire argument since apart from the name there’s no connection to the source material, and even if the Shock Jock angle was considered outdated, you can easily have her as an independent reporter who’s distrusting of Superman, and finds herself in a similar situation as in the Animated cartoon; or Cadmus can experiment on her and give her the Livewire powers. I feel like this show is best described as interesting ideas and good potential that’s only halfway utilized. Missed opportunities and questionable choices all around, but not the worst modern day cartoon or show by a long shot.
Yes, but in many properties he is a Batman villain and fights Batman, take Arkham Origins for example. My main point still stands is that Deathstroke is not part of Superman’s Rouges gallery, or considered a nemesis to him on a personal basis.
This is how I would have done it, since they want the characters to be younger. Get rid of Jimmy, first I really hate race swaps, second Jimmy was at least 5 years younger the Clark and Louis. John Henry (Steel) would have been perfect as his roommate. Since the show is heavily influenced by tech. Why not use an engineer character who happens to be black. He can help Louis and Clark with the weird tech. Livewire can be a RUclips influencer like Logan Paul, she would kinda like background noise, like how Harvy Dent showed up before he became two face in BTAS. Let Louis be Louis, a sharp tongue no nonsense type of girl. Put her in a skirt, nothing wrong with being feminine.
Many who say Superman is boring or perfect don't understand the character. Superman put it best saying he lives in a word of cardboard and fighting Darkseid. This Clark just feels more of punchline, like braking everything and needing a bib to eat donuts while still struggling to find out "Who he is" things he would have known before going to Metropolis. Jimmy just looks like Bow as well as Mxyzptlk looks like he's from shera, which isn't surprising given the people that worked on the show. And Lex just looks like an evil version of Peter from that forgotten Spider-Man show. I don't think the showrunners are fans of anime, just "Take from popular anime and watch people point at the reference" trope. Also; I think real anime fans/studio could do better. Look at Spider-Man: False Red. While a Manga, it's still a good story.
Uh, they were not 'anime fans'. They didn't understand one thing about how Anime tropes or why they work... And the crew did work on Owl House which explains why they don't actually understand what or why Superman does what he does. Also, 'Lois' is not 'cute' she's manipulative and a liar, this is not someone anyone wants in their lives, she risked her own life on a gamble and did the EXACT THING she JUST said she'd NEVER do. Because no one in Metropolis has phones with cameras to capture some flying dood catching a psycho woman. Who if she was wrong, would have made him look like a murderer! Oh, and she'd be dead.
0:25 - 0:41 That’s kind of the point of Mxyzptlk. In most animated and printed media, he’s supposed to stand out since he’s not from out dimension. In the DCAU, he looks closer to a Tiny Toons character than the show’s more conservative designs.
If I may rise in my 2 cents about the power development. I think it was meant to work like how in kingdom come, due to prolonged exposure to the sun, he developed his other powers over time. Some simply took longer than others. Smallvill did something similar, though Clark was still young.
My adventures with Superman was just mid to me. In an era where The Boys, Invincible and Peacemaker exist, it really didn't break the mold for me or make itself stand out
I will say I enjoyed this show more than I thought I would, but I agree with most of your criticisms. I did like the new take on the design for slade wilson though. I thought it was funny making him a pretty boy.
I really want to say that I wish they would stop ripping off Avatar The Last Airbender's animation style and "quirk" but this is ripping off She Ra's rip off of Avatar's animation style.
There’s no need to race swap so many of the characters in this cartoon. I just watched Battle of the Supersons. And they really portrayed Superman right there. Unfortunately, they race swapped Jimmy Olsen.
I know that evil superman has flooded the market since injustice. but there have been series and movies(mostly animated) that do feature the true superman in recent years.
I like the show. I admit the show isn't perfect, but for what it is, it's decent. However, I have to point out that the Louis's have an base full of non Superman related items, like *Mr Mxyzptlk's hat* . Meaning the Leage of Louis isn't Clark bias, they just aware that a Clark CAN become a bad guy. I do admit that the criminals that Superman was facing at the start were underwhelming and COULD have been used better, BUT, I think that they did good on serving the audience a good view on how dangerous Kryptonian technology can be, and how dangerous Operation Zero Day IS. The General, Wallerx and Slade were willing to put kids in danger to get Superman captured. Now with Waller in charge, I fear how many egg producers will have to rot just so she can make ONE omelet.
My only explanation as to why Superman is still struggling with his powers would probably because of years of trying to suppress his Kryptonian side and only now starting to embrace these gifts has made it awkward for him to try to control his newly awakened powers.
i haven't watched the show myself yet since tbh i'm not interested in it really at all and from what i heard and seen online i don't think im missing much of anything, but man as someone who really likes character designs and making them, the designs aren't very good with a lot of them looking unrecognizable to the character there suppose to be portraying. honestly unless i was told who the character is i would have no idea who half of them are, maybe even more so. characters you mentioned like mr.mxyzptlk, slade, banshee, and the one i was the most shocked about (no pun intended heh) livewire, i had no idea who they were until someone said there names and i saw a comparison to there past designs.
I'm glad you said the very thing I felt about this show, this western inspired anime isn't bad but too much too soon which is sadly why I'm avoiding the show, I don't hate what it is I'm just not ready for it.
Ngl I really liked the show but your criticism is very valid and some problems that you pointed out I do think they should fix in a season 2, my rating for it is still at an solid 8/10 tho
This show feels more like a novvist writer whithout a developed style try write superman Plenty of flaws, weird choices, characters a bit too simple for an adult show, but yet, it still nails on enough things to keep you engaged, and hoping they gain experience and get better
I like it. it's definitely better than average. it's no teen titans or avatar the last airbender, but it's enjoyable. i definitely think they messed up livewire and deadshot though
In my opinion The multiverse was handled just fine in this show and it relates to every classic cartoon in the history of the multiverse and that's kind of what I want to see here the multiverse connecting everything
The show is flawed, but the writing for Clark has been fantastic. I am so happy they stayed faithful to the true character of Superman: He is a man who only wants to help as much as he can. The writers have a better understanding of Superman than Zack Synder and James Gunn. I will admit that the romance was rushed, most of the villain designs are bland and boring, and the Lois getting mad at Clark about his secret was just annoying. Why must every female love interest get pissed over their boyfriend for being a superhero. Also Brian and Mallah actually have a surprisingly healthy relationship and I doubt Brain wanted to groom mallah. The romance just slowly developed. And the multiverse was introduced far too quickly. Honestly the multiverse has become overexposed by this point.
I've only seen the first episode and a few clips here and there. I am liking what I'm seeing but I do agree with your criticisms. I the writing for season 2 gets better 🙂
the most annoying thing is she doesnt look like but they have vickie vale in that show that doesnt look like vickie vale but literally looks like the actual lois lane.
(This comment is made less than 1 minute in the video; it might be covered, later.) The character redesigns are 100% aping the redesign aesthetic found in the 2018 She-Ra, with a primary difference of allowing more literally-adult characters. But the style is *extremely* similar to the She-Ra show, and the... I don't know... ideology? ... design principles? ... "aesthetic" again? - whatever it is, the way the characters are redesigned is directly comparable to the way they were redesigned for She-Ra. She-Ra 2018 itself heavily drew upon work in Avatar: the Last Airbender for character aesthetics that was filtered through a fantasy/She-Ra palette and scope. (You can see the actual A:tLA aesthetic principles modified through western fantasy at work in The Dragon Prince, but 2018 She-Ra was clearly inspired by a combination of A:tLA and the softer experiences of things like My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic, but with the 80s retro-futuristic sensibilities of the original She-Ra instead of strictly modern fantasy.) Another critically important source of aesthetic is Voltron: Legendary Defender, itself a precursor to She-Ra 2018's. I guess in a way, MAoS actually harkens a little more back to V:LD's style than SR2018, if only because they allow older characters, a wider variety of designs, and a bolder color palette. Either way, you can see the clear comparisons made between the three shows and can see A:tLA's influence (even if it wasn't a conscious decision). This contrasts with, say, the redesigns for the *The Masters of the Universe: Revelation* aesthetic. And, absolutely, My Adventures of Superman is it's own thing - my point isn't that anything was stolen, but to point to clear visual trends and aesthetic influences that led to its development.
Excellent review. As much as I enjoyed the Snyderverse interpretation (as you’re well aware 😂) it was refreshing to see a more classical Superman. I agree with a good majority of your points regarding the art style and the consistency of Jimmy’s character. Not everything in the show worked, but the stuff that did kept me very much invested in where it goes next.
When it comes to superman as a character, there is no such thing as being too good or too much boyscout(Which I despise that word sometimes). There is only such a thing as Good as you can be. In spite of whatever short comings or problems that you have. He is not suppose to be that many people nowadays wants him to be, which is a scumbag anti-hero or a villain. Many people just forgets that superman is a Classic hero, who embodies a good and firm moral compass. But, does not necessary mean that compass is invincible nor it is messy. Man who does the right thing because he wants to and inspired to as well.
I think that we'll see Jor-El's hologram again when Kara shows up, since she'll presumably have her own ship with it's own holograms, and Jor-El is her uncle. She's been confirmed to appear in this show.
I for one think this was one of the best Superman's I've seen in a long time it actually believe it or not brings back a lot of the classic traditional material finally Superman the here I knew as a kid with hope and truth justice and the American way is back I have missed like Dean Cain and red underwear I've missed light-hearted colors a beautiful storytelling between Lois and Clark Clark looks amazing anime i have misted that about him From days of Smallville and Christopher reave a legend born a hero tacks flight this anime brings back that super friend animation I have missed it for so long it's finally back thank you what I was sad about for a long time when they started changing his character to a darker characterLike the marnen day incredible halk that is not Superman at least not the one I know thank you for bringing him back anime now please make more seasons pretty please ❤
Honestly I thought it was fine. And a step in the right direction. Not the best or perfect by any means as there are things to criticize but yeah this was handled a lot better than I was expecting them too after almost a decade of crap from western entertainment. From what I understand it barely passed for a season 2 so hopefully the writers of this show are taking the legit criticisms and learn to improve the writing and handling of episodes especially since it looks like we will be seeing zod. So yeah Lois and Clark were handled very well, clunky in a couple of spots and I do get the general of what they're going for with superman here and I think the writers felt like they had to make the villains be something equal to superman who is learning his powers bit by bit by h ing the villains gain their powers through mutations from using what we now know is Kryptonian technology. So it is a decent idea to balance the scales out a bit. So I do give it a recommendation to check out as it least does pique my interest in how season 2 will go.
I swear to God give japanese writers superman they would put a wild story look at one punch man and all might. They were Handel perfectly. P.S. Lois would be drawn with the most female body if japan got it you know what I mean by that 😏
I think they should have done the route with Jimmy since he's a Superman fan what could end up happening is he witnessed Superman killing someone and believing he did it on purpose. And due to that misunderstanding, he vowed to destroy the man who truly was pretending to be a hero and his mind. Or he witnessed Superman cover up a murder that he accidentally did is so just outright saying it some skew thing for another universe and he says collecting other jimmies after they do their research on their Superman to see which one is a good one and which one's a bad one in the bad ones become executioner style hunt them down. Maybe even Lois Lane work where dark Superman and escape to this Clark's universe and the League of jimmies are hunting her down.
8:43 So Mala instead of the Brain’s bodyguard, they made him his lover. Making this a gay, experiment and doctor, and bestiality situation. That is wrong on so many levels.
The evil RUclipsr thing with Livewire is SUCH a missed opportunity! I felt like she was just another standard criminal in this. Also did anyone else feel that the fights were a bit too Disney? I felt like Clark wasn't allowed to actually fight back sometimes with the villains either being defeated by their own hubris or a random piece of the scenery falling on them. I get that they were trying to go for a 'nicer' superman but he's almost a bit TOO nice to the point of being a bit soft. I can't picture this one doing the famous 'Superman Stare' with an intimidating face and crossed arms. I don't wanna yuck anyone's yum but it just didn't sit right with me.
I haven't watched this show yet, so it would be dumb of me try to argue for or against it. I just wanted to say gow nice it is to have another Superman cartoon, I'm so sick of constant Batman reboots. And Clark is really cute in this too, so that has to count for something. Maybe we can finally give Wonder Woman her turn and give the Green Lantern cartoon a second season? Something to think about.
I would have done almost everything differently, despite it’s annoying elements the show’s enjoyable but not something I’d religiously rewatch like the dcau. I’d say Lois is my favorite character, and she’s the most well rounded one. He’s too much of a doofus, but I like that it showcases who Superman really is, a regular guy that happens to have powers.
Personally I really liked the show. Yeah I agreed about the Scientist and Gorilla part... yeah they didn't need to do that... but aside that, I had a good time and was happy we got a Superman Cartoon again after so many years.
So here's my thoughts. I as must liked that they maintained Clark's good nature character in this. I think some of the stuff with the military is good and some of the other characters are handled well. What I didn't like was how they changed most of the villains in the show to the point where they're unrecognizable and replays all mutant characters into tech villains. The thing that irritates me about this change there is no reason to have to have most of the villains have this equipment, mainly intergang and that gender bent flame villain who were changed to be incompetent and just delinquents. There's no reason for the government to use them and no reason them to keep obtaining this advance weapondry. The second reason is the government could just take the tech, which was already there's for there soldiers who should have experience with it. The other thing I don't like is the over antagonizing of kryptonians. It wouldn't be a problem if it was just that insadent involving aliens but had to be kryptonians and also had that holograme of evil Supermen in that awful episode in the multiverse. I feel like it's a bit overboard. Those were my thoughts.
This show is the result of what would happen if you put tard wranglers on a modern cartoon's writing team but not the design team. It's kinda the opposite of that one modern comic reboot of Static Shock where all the cool redesigns and early art were wasted on the bad writing.
i think the multiverse trope has been used to death, and seeing that they hopped on it INSTANTLY killed my interest for the show. It gets SO BORING SO QUICKLY when every single new piece of media hops on the multiverse
"Mr Mxyzsptlk looks like he came out from a completely different show and the difference is jarring." .... The original design for Mr Mxyzsptlk *already* intentionally made him look like he came out of a different show (only he look like a Tex Avery comedy cartoon as opposed to Superman's more realistically drawn style) as a way to play up he was from another dimension, so I don't really see how that's a problem in that instance.
Personally I would like ultra humanite and Dolores winters instead the brain and mallah. And I would switch heatwave with volcana and have volcana be the first villain/weapon dealer instead of livewire. And eventually Leslie Willis (who a rival to jimmy) become livewire and challenge superman only to be caught by deathstroke.
With Brain and Mala. I already found their relationship disgusting seeing it as bestiality. However, now because of you MJ Tanner. I realized it was grooming.
They've been a bizarre love between a disembodied brain-in-a-jar and his hyper intelligent gorilla assistant literally since their original roles as the leaders of the Brotherhood of Evil in the Doom Patrol back in the 60's; one of their side-MO's was the get Brain a new body, and the first he did after stealing one of Robotman's was to confess to his love to Mallah....then the body exploded right when they were about to kiss.
So with mxyz design in both this show and in comics it's explained that he takes a form in every universe that fits it's structure, because if he doesn't he risks destroying himself and that universe in the process, i recommend reading the superman event called superman reborn for the context
Not that it's needed, but if they bring in any other heroes, I'd be okay with an older Bruce Wayne showing up or referenced. Just something that popped into my head when Vicki Vale showed up as Louis's role model.
it honestly sounds like a "anime with Superman" show than a "Superman in anime" with good and mix elements, tho, I'm not gonna lie I'm not giving it a chance, aside from not trusting Warner, it just seems off to me, but again, I literally watch a good chunk of Batman animated show adaptations up to Beware The Batman, so yeah, off
As a twin myself I think it’s really admirable how you two work together to create content.
Ikr wish me my twin were this close lol x3
Todd McFarlane will NEVER resist an opportunity to hype up Spawn.
Which is kinda weird, because people like Spawn so that's unneeded.
I like that Jimmy's online persona is Flamebird because the mantle was made in an old comic where Clark and Jimmy had to take on new superhero identities to avoid being recognized so they became Nightwing (Before Grayson did) and Flamebird
Yeah Nightwing and Flamebird were the handles Superman and Jimmy respectively used for their adventures in the Bottled City of Kandor in the wacky Silver Age 1960's books. And Dick took the Nightwing mantle specifically because he wanted to be more like Superman, brighter and hopeful
I believe the lore is that they are legendary superheroes from krypton, and because dick is Superman fan he chosen for himself
They really should have addressed Louis gaslighting Clark into revealing himself more with her apologizing. Feels like they glossed over it so they could be a couple faster. With Clark coming off as the one in the wrong.
I wouldn't go that far but it is a annoying mistake on the righters side of things.
They do kinda (she ends up apologizing) but it is more general things Lois in different adaptations do to get Clark to admits than specifically pure problems in that show
*Insert most comments Is that both Luz and Gus now exist In the Superman Universe Lore*
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I know, right?
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What Luz? Luz Noceda? From owl house?
@@ДмитрийОсипов-п1п Obvious yes.
The point you made in the beginning is it. "Just goes to show that characters don't need to be race or gender swapped to be completely unrecognizable." What happens are characters are taken and changed to make their show and we have to deal with it. With the follow-up about spawn being the finisher. To often "they" have an idea of what should entertain us based on what they like, how it should be done and we aren't allowed to enjoy things until they are corrected.
No offense, but where is this information coming from?
@@Persephone_07 The mjtanner channel kind of got it's start with it's she-ra videos and the drama about that, how the characters were changed and how badly the show creators acted.
@@cts1234567 Okay, I just think it's dangerous to go with a "They" outlook on something. Because it seems like a way to dehumanize a creator. Just because a show runner had a certain outlook doesn't mean all do.
@@Persephone_07 I'm gonna have to disagree on that one, since Superman is a way better man than Batman will ever be no matter how rich or handsome he is
I hate how they copied the "Lois threatens suicide if Clark Kent doesn't prove he's Superman" bit from the comics and even the Richard Donner Superman movies verbatim without y'know, CRITIQUING Lois's selfish short sighted actions.
Not only is an outdated element from the source material, but with how serious the topic of suicide is taken these days both in real life as well as in media, you would think they'd have this Clark Kent calmly talk Lois Lane out of throwing herself off a building just to make a point while also confirming Lois's suspicions without making it obvious that yes, Clark Kent and Superman are never seen in the same room together. Basically play to Kal El's empathy for the human race which is the key reason why he's Superman, not because of his powers. Then you could have had Lois Lane now knowing for certain her boyfriend is the same guy she's been searching for as a reporter break down in tears as she lets out her personal problems that led to her threatening to game end herself in the first place while Clark Kent consoles her like the Superman he is.
But wait, I forgot, you can't have a man be a woman's rock in her hour of need in modern western entertainment now can you?
Nah, its always gotta be "strong independent woman" stereotype being validated for having an objectively toxic personality by Twitter buffoons and said toxic behavior being rewarded as we saw here in My Adventures with Superman or before that, the animated adaptation of Invincible with the main protagonist's girlfriend whose name escapes me at the moment.
Or worse, people like Godzilla Mendoza, yes, the Spider-Man RUclipsr, defending Lois Lane's selfish decision because "well it happened in the comics" when he of all people should know better than that since just because "it happened in the comics" doesn't mean its worth adapting wholesale in an adaptation.
I really liked GM's past videos though in his Invincible review he did oddly dance around bringing up Amber (annoying gf) and how she differed greatly from the comic and regardless was an annoying asshole. Understandably, he didn't seem to delve to deep into critiquing identity politics but a recent review on modern Spider-Man comics showed he doesn't seem to care much for fans who critique identity politics or something to that regard.
Except you missed the whole point and Lois was in fact not validated. Her ambitious yet aggressive nature is what caused her to make such a rash decision, a characteristic that we’ve seen throughout the series time and time again either for the better or worse, in fact it’s what got her so far as a reporter. But in the outcome it turned out for the worse causing both sides to depart, but when they get back together and in the very end who apologizes? Lois Lane. She wasn’t rewarded for her “toxic” behavior despite it being understandable(not right but understandable), how the man that she loved might have just used her and lied to her despite both promising each other no more lies. But its not like she completely disregarded Clark like how Amber disregarded Mark, they still talked to each other and in the very end she heard everything Clark had to say from his point of view and apologized. The reason it took so long was due to her seeing Clark and Superman as 2 separate entities, Lois didn’t entirely trust Superman but trusted Clark hence why when Clark claimed Superman was a guy who does good because it’s the right thing Lois declines and says that if only Clark were Superman that he would do such a thing but since Superman had so much to hide she believed that he was rather up to something, so you could imagine the shock on Lois when Clark turned out to be Superman, a person she didn’t trust was the person she trusted. It’s not an outdated element, it’s just not used right but here in this show it was used right, the reason for you saying otherwise is rather due to looking at it from the surface level. Not trying to insult or anything but just don’t go around judging to quickly👍
The characters are so radical different from their original counterparts, it could have been just a new show. Like She-Ra and the Princesses of Power. I do not understand, why we constantly have to bring old shows back, but change everything about it. Why not create new stuff from begin with? The west really needs new shows. It is not only America, Europe also rebooted Oggy and the Cockroaches, and also Totally Spies gets a sort of “reboot” next year. Where did all the creativity go?
To be fair when came to She Ra I'm glad the reboot existed because that character hasn't been seen in decades most people don't even know who the character is
@@animezilla4486yeah :(
@animezilla4486 That reboot was an insult to the original cartoon. Watching it will not give people an idea of what She-Ra is actually like. For starters, she and Catra are supposed to be bitter enemies, not in a pseudo romantic relationship.
@@Rocket1377 I think the reboot was way better than original for one thing the Netflix version decide to make the characters teenagers with the exception of the ice princess being 5 to 10 years old while the original was mostly adults and their personalities were not that great
@@animezilla4486 What was so great about reducing them to teenagers rather than keeping then in their original adult forms.
I think you really hit the nail on the head with the art style critique, I really think it feels really sporadic and unfocused. It's funny though, because Teen Titans was the first DC cartoon to use an anime aesthetic 20 years ago and it made complete sense for that series in a way that felt thematically cohesive. Most people would simply say they made that show look like an anime because of the medium's boom of popularity in the early 2000s, but thematically it really uses that sort of contemporary zeitgeist to its advantage. It's a series with an inherently more youthful and adolescent vibe to it unlike most DC shows at the time, so using the aesthetics of what most teens were into at the time (anime, which was being widely broadcast in the west on the same channel TT was airing) not only fits the teen cast but the redesigns were strong and iconic enough to hold their own weight and has become arguably the most iconic form of the characters they adapted. With this show, it feels more like the series is visually just copying She-Ra and Voltron's homework regardless of whether or not it works or makes sense for the character or universe
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This is sad because as an anime fan and DC Comics fans I assumed that Teen Titans carried its soft anime aesthetic to bank on anime's popularity at the time. What's worst is as an artist it never occurred to me that the artists took advantage of the aesthetic by implementing elements that gave the characters their youthful appearances.
That said you're right in how My Adventures With Superman goes with an aesthetic too similar to She-Ra and Voltron. That's why I disagree with J about the people who worked on this being more of fans of anime than DC. But I'm forgetting that there are a variety of fans, and how some lack the understanding of how art aesthetics work.
I have so many mixed feelings for this show. I really love Clark/Superman's portrayal, they got him so right. Plus, his group dynamic with Jimmy and Lois is pretty strong and is probably when the show is at its best.
However, the villain are pretty bad in both designs and characters, the pacing is schizophrenic, and the growing romance between him and Lois, while conceptually sound, feels kinda rushed.
I'm hoping that the next season listens to the criticism and makes a stronger series when it returns.
Yeah, I feel the same, and I do hope they fix the villain problem, especially since brainix and zod are coming. But I will give this show the benefit of the doubt that this is a lot more of a slow burn for them to be how they used to like being true meta humans instead of relying on technology.
I think the problem is the short season format. Credit where it's due: the writers of this show did actually tell a complete story within the confines of just 10 episodes, unlike Dave Filoni with his Ahsoka. He has only 8 episodes but treats them as part of a full 24 episodes season and drags the pacing and stretches the heck out of the story. The writers of My adventures with Superman on the other hand are competent enough and respectful for the audience's time so they do give us set up and pay off for all the story beats and tell us quite a lot of stories in the 10 episodes they were given. It would have been better if they had full tv style seasons to work with. They deserve it and the show would have been better for it, I think...
I kinda like Deathstroke’s design, at least when he’s wearing his armor.
@@sorinalexandroiudefine "full TV style season". When I think of full TV style season I think 52 episodes.
No, they didn't. He's not the 'adorkable' guy who has no control over his own bodily functions.
Notice how all the characters who hate Superman are characters who only fear Superman.
Without Superman they would be “Superman”
What they did to Deathstroke was BS, even if it's supposed to be a younger versión.
As a deathstroke fan it was insulting, and that’s one of the worst character designs ever drawn.
What's especially hilarious/frustrating is that Slade's MAWS design would have been fine on either of his sons, particularly Joey who the "anime pretty boy" aesthetic works better with. How he looked in Knights & Dragons and the TT Earth One series is already close to how Slade looks in this cartoon. That's another thing, not happy this seems to be another version that ignores how his family plays a big part in his character l, including his eye lost but that's the least surprising to see happen.
Yeah I can't relate. I only because a 'fan' of Death Stroke, after he saved his daughter and tried to save his son.
However, if I had to say anything about THIS version of the Anti-Villain, it's that the writers can still do alot with this character. He starts off mysterious and composed with his job, believing he is part of the Good Guys. Then he ends up -with his eye injured- and standing by Waller. He was hurt, and seems too young to be affected by the Zero Day incident. Who is he? Why does he work in this millitary branch? Is he gonna get backstabbed by Waller? How will he backstab Waller?
I think the main issue people have with this show, with how it does Superman is that it does things differently. It's not just the anime influence, or Clark not being able to bench press mountains, it's how they handle things like characters, liike the villains being all tech base, with two villains being made into allies and even how Krypton is handled. Instead of Clark knowing about his Kryptonian heritage, understanding it, it is instead a source of conflict/drama for him, as he sees it as this inhuman aspect of himself he wants to escape from, represented by Jor-El not speaking English I think.
It is very clearly a Superman story, but yet it is also very different, but I think a majority of those differences were done because they had a specific kind of story in mind to tell. I think there is a reason the main antagonists are Ivo/Parasite and the General. The first is a proto-Luther, hell many suspect his assistent 'Alex' will be wearing a lot of green down the line, and he is also direct a foil for each other. Clark is an alien with inhuman powers but a lot of humanity, and Ivo is a human with alien tech and lacking in humanity. Clark helps, Ivo is a 'parasite' only interested in himself.
It is different, and intentionally and I'm honestly interested in seeing how they continue in season 2.
Everything being tech and robots is a throwback that is showing people's ages- it's Golden Age stuff. The staff said a lot of influence is from the Max Fleischer cartoons of the early 1940s, and back in the Golden Age Superman fought a lot of goofy robots....when he wasn't being used a war propaganda figure fighting Nazis and Japanese. And the bigger revisions to characters were reserved for people who weren't that critical to Superman: Dr Ivo being used as Parasite is fine because Ivo's been dead or irrelevant way longer than he was ever depicted alive and threatening in his own capacity, he's only known more as "the guy that built Amazo"; The Brain and Monsieur Mallah are from the Doom Patrol, they never really crossed paths with Superman stuff and they've basically been a married couple since the 60s...them just being irresponsible but endearing mad scientists instead of running the Brotherhood of Evil should really be no skin off anybody's back, etc. The people who mattered most are played pretty straight when considering they are making a Year One style story, those being General Lane and Amanda Waller- Lane's a little more tempered compared to his absolutist jarhead persona in the comics but it's fine for the role they need him to play when they keep Waller as true-form as she should be....and they could always pull out General Wade Eiling to be the even more brutal hardcore military meathead who thirsts to kill everything America can't literally control...the guy who made Major Force and would eagerly put his mind into the Shaggy Man's body or juice himself on Captain Nazi serum, depending on the continuity, if it let him destroy the Justice League for not being subservient to the US government.
At the end of the day, they're trying not to just rehash the exact same origin story and material we've seen a million times already but show they've definitely done their homework, know the characters they're working with, and care about what they're making. Shit like Jimmy being a radically new design for example really shouldn't matter when the second he starts talking you can immediately see he's still the same goober we understand "Jimmy Olsen, Superman's Pal" is supposed to be...even his damn youtube channel is old dank Superman fluff references- Flamebird is a Kryptonian mythical space-dragon Jimmy Olsen used as a handle when he and Superman were having adventures in the Bottled City of Kandor back in the 60's, Superman was Nightwing (which was expressly where Dick Grayson got the name after leaving the Robin role)
@@gtf234 Very interesting
Well the tech stuff was implied in the ending to effect them and give them their powers (with the one longest with it show it first)
Can't speak for others, but that's definitely not my main issue with it. I hate the fact that they've completely twisted every aspect of every character, both in looks and personality. It's not a Superman show in anything but name, so why would I watch it when the only thing that got me interested was the idea that I'd be watching a Superman show?
One thing I don’t appreciate is how the characters all act like teenagers despite being grown adults. Guess we’ll still be hanging onto that “using cartoons to relive the romanticized memory of your high school life” bit for a while.
Superman in anime? On paper, it's a far stretch. Overall, My Adventures with Superman is alright. Could be worse.
Also, Thank you for that shoutout mjtanner. Always good to help channels that I totally love and respect.
In diffence of Mr. Mxyzptlk 5th dimensional beings can most likely change their appearance to match whatever universe they go to. He did it in CWs' Supergirl.
I agree.
I will add, that some people see this version as a twink and just stop there. To me, if I saw a small elf alien thing, I would be massively afraid.
@@blueotter5954 Idk, projects looking exactly like this (Voltron, for one) have been exploiting exactly the same aesthetic for "otherworldly/higher beings". It's just another elf-like thing in drapes. Far from as entertaining as The Gargoyles' Puck (who actually is supposed to be a fae), and without teeth in it's bite, unlike SAS's Mr. Mxyzptlk. Guy's supposed to be looking irritating, instead we get a generic, boring, pretty elf.
@@dohavename6775 Yeah that's not a coincidence, some folks who worked on Voltron also currently work on this show. Also, it was just recently brought up that Lois looking like Luz is because someone who worked on the Owl House is now working on My Adventures with Superman.
I'm more upset about how they completely butchered his personality and powers. He's supposed to be a trickster, more mischievous out of boredom than actually evil. And he can change reality itself, but literally all we saw from him is teleportation and laser blasts. They took an interesting character that was already written for them, and they made him as bland and unimaginative as themselves.
watched the first five episodes and enjoyed how they did Clark. Felt that Jimmy was a little to out there even for jimmy. The Clark/Lois Romance felt more like middle school or early high school crushes. felt weird since they are shown to be out of their family's homes and working full time.
Shows you the mental maturity of the people making this
Fuck I hate this stupid trope with modern writing, especially in superhero stories where a character somehow figures out the superheroes identity out of their ass and then hate the hero character for keeping that identity a secret. It's like people never use any common sense as to why certain superheroes keep their identities a secret for a very good reason. In Spectacular Spider-Man George Stacy even mentioned in one of the episodes why Spider-Man keeps his identity a secret and it isn't because he has something to hide, but something to ptotect.
Agreed, it's some manner of entitlement inherent to these characters. Maybe someone just doesn't want you in their life in This capacity, getting your nose into their alter-ego business. Wonder Woman, for example, understood that from Batman's aloof "I don't know what you're talking about" and maintained her distance from Bruce Wayne's persona until Bruce became comfortable/practical with unmasking to the League in JL animated series.
I did find some the anime influences annoying. especially rewriting some of the characters to fit them
whats annoying is that we have much fanart clearly done in an anime style but most of them are still clearly very much the characters superman looks like superman , metallo looks metallo ,silver banshee etc... i have no problem with a superman anime but at least before you make them into anime base them off the actual characters especially the villains look nothing like the dc versions and i saw plenty of anime fanart of these who still look very much like the dc characters just in an anime style
@@laisphinto6372 make sense
It's not necessarily hate. On either Lex or Bruce's point. Definitely not for Bruce or Bats would have nothing to do with him. There's a line from I believe the comic Hush - or one of the ones where he's using Kyrptonite to win; and he shares with the audience that he KNOWS the only real reason he ever has done is BECAUSE Clark ALWAYS hold back. "Because at the end, at the heart of it - he's a good person. And when it comes down to it, I'm not." Lex does genuinely hate that Superman is the literal manifestation of everything he wants to be, that he can never attain naturally. Even as an 11th level intellect with more money than God. He is afraid of the one man on earth that basically is a living God. (Also directly descended from one - unless that's been retconned? o.O ) Bruce is frankly more rightly afraid of what all Clark COULD do. If he chose to, and if he was just that little bit more actually human. He's jealous that Clark is as good a man as he is, because it holds a mirror up to the lie Bruce lives. Which is really only enforced by his strict code of honor. Bruce also as much as they butt heads for being two alpha males, respects the ever-loving hell out of him. There's a reason for the impact when Clark gives Bruce the Kryptonite Bullet in the comic Tower of Babel. Both of them know that if push came to shove and Superman did ever actually go that dark; Bruce would not have the reaction time to be able to use it. At all. The offering is more a safety blanket, to the broken kid still inside of Bruce, who needs it. From his best friend. True blue, to the end. Because Clark is aware of the scars he has, and knows very well that matters to Bruce. It's symbolic rather than practical. Like a talisman shared between them. There are a LOT of people that misunderstand the hell out of Supes. Because when you examine him, and everything he SHOULD be... not just in what he can do; what he's been through, who he is, how he was raised. What he chooses to do with the power he has... we should all be DAMNED thankful that he is exactly as benevolent as he is. [I also appreciate that while it makes him look weaker, what he's actually doing is feeling out what the enemy can dish out, and potentially take. So he knows how much to put out himself. That way he doesn't inadvertantly maim or kill an opponent in battle. Though it does make him take a few more hits than he really has to] He also has been quoted in that show - and the Darkseid Speech is pretty much one of my favorite scenes in that whole series by the way - as saying; I'm the shield for all of you. Because I can take the hits you can't. I'll take them, so you don't have to. Or something to that effect.
I thought the Council Of Lois was dumb because Lois is a reporter, not a scientist, but the fact that they tried to hunt down Superman because their versions turned evil is even Dumber
Also Lois is not a superhero. As pointed out in the video, it would have made more sense to have a league of multiverse Batman ( or another DC superhero character) to deal with Superman, not an ordinary average Jane like Lois who is *Superman's love interest*.
It was just their pathetic attempt to justify making Lois Lane a completely different person
It's nice to have a superman movie/show in which Superman is, you know, actually Superman.
But I don't have HBOmax, so I can't watch the show to see for myself.
It's not worth it. None of the other characters are the least bit recognizable, and the fact that the show wants you to just accept that they're the same people is insulting
classic mxy is meant to look like a generic cartoon character so the new mxy looking like a generic anime character fits well thematically
I don't know, man. Aside from his blue skin, he doesn't really look all that much out of place from the other characters in this show. What made his design work in stuff like the DCAU, was because he looks way more cartoon and weird compared to Superman and the other characters. If they really wanted to make him a bizarre character in this art style, they should have amped up the anime-esque tropes with him. Basically turn him into what your parents/grandparents think of when you tell them what anime is (Speed Racer, Astro Boy, Dragon Ball, etc).
Truthfully, I quit the show after the episode with brain. I just preferred the man of tomorrow movie over this. The changes to certain characters and their designs were getting a little too much for me and I didn't feel like sticking around for the Clark/Lois stuff (which I did like).
Also my expectations (probably not the right word) for Superman's character has been shifting lately. I agree that grim superman is done a lot now and that we need more classic, but I also don't want it to be 100% classic. I've been wanting more of a middle ground between the two and I've only gotten that in DCAMU's death of superman.
I recommend to watch the Zero Day two parter.
@@blueotter5954 I'll check it out at some point if I ever desire to revisit this show.
@@QTRemnant yes! Thank you! Enjoy the rest of your day!
I watched the first 5-6 episodes, and I really appreciated most of the takes on main characters, and the general vibe of the show being more in line with classic Superman. But just a few episodes in and had the STRONG impression that the directors and various leads behind this series were very fresh; with little-to-no experience, and almost as if on queue I came across a post on twitter by one of the screen writers (I believe it was the head screen writer) posting about how they were so excited to have their first big job, and that pretty much sealed my assumption that this was a team of fresh faces. That's not an issue though; everyone's got to start somewhere, but it felt too derivative to me, like they had very few ideas that were their own, so they were just plugging in designs and tropes from things they knew to fill in the many, many gaps that were left, and then there were a ton of shots and scene sequences that made no logical sense, and it collectively just pulled me out of the show too much to care to finish it; and I'm a moderately dedicated Superman fan. That said, I hope they do get a second season, so that they can put what they hopefully learned from working on this season to make a better, more refined extension of this promising project.
I agree with most of MJ’s points on the show. I do enjoy it for the most part. I believe they needed more than 10 episodes. The season finale felt more like a mid season finale. Plus I was hoping the reveal at the end would’ve been a different character instead of who they chose. I do like that Superman/ Clark feels more like Superman than he has in a while (minus the animated movies). I do like the Lois & Clark relationship. It’s interesting enough for me to watch a 2nd season.
The whole mid-season finally thing you feel is probably true, a lot of seasons are broken up even a long time ago. Seasons were 52 episodes in some cases but mostly around 26, the 10-14 episodes are a Netflix binge thing. Release a lot of episodes at once but do more releases.
Also M and J are different people and refers to the fact that they were reviewing shows as twins, this was all J as the letter on the shirt.
The Brain looks like K.E.V.I.N. from Final Space
There's a kind of story that's a hero's journey, where the challenge is for the young character to face challenges and mature, to become a grown man. But I think Superman, like The Lone Ranger, or John Carter, or Tarzan, or Kenshiro (Fist of the North Star), is already a grown man, and his values are strong. The point of stories about these types of characters is that they help people, and they change the world for the better. It's not about "Will they make the right decisions?"
you could say zack snyder started this by making him more human and vulnerable than the donner version, the problem is he keep making bad desions all the time and even saying out of character lines like "Krypton had its chance!" (yeah i hope Zod dosn't take that personally), and by the look of the snyderverse he wasn't planing to make him better he was planing to make him evil to get to the injustice saga just to make batman look better.
At least this superman has a mix between good decisions and bad decisions
Really sad that people cling to old stuff and simply can't see a new show for what it is: a new show.
My boi Clark can’t feel nervous or anxious anymore ? 😭
I think when people say ''Western animation needs to learn from anime.'' this isn't what they have in mind. They usually mean better animation, better writing, and better action. Not sailor moon-like transformation and ''funny'' faces.
It's too anime for me. It tires way too hard to be ‘’kawaii desu’’. Bummer that there is no lyrics in the opening and the music doesn't feel like anything Superman. It's just a generic guitar. At least there is an intro instead of just a title card. We need the art of the opening songs back.
The early 2000s and 2010s had the right idea:
Totally spies
Winx Club
Ben 10
W.I.T.C.H.
Teen Titans
Thundercats 2011
TMNT
I disagree there was nothing wrong with Superman's transformation it just goes to show you that the riders just love anime if there's anything wrong with that ? Besides it's not the first time the animators pay homage to sailor moon's transformation it was also reference in teen Titans versus Justice League
@@animezilla4486 Of all the transformation sequences they chose to homage, why does it seems like they always choose Sailor Moon?
@@harlannguyen4048Because most of the people who write these shows are only familiar with Sailor Moon....and very little else.
I think I saw a video about that once by the RUclipsr.....C-Puff, I believe she was called?
About how when it comes to anime like scenes and references 9 times out of 10 you get something like Superman or Dragon Ball, simply because people are the most familiar with those.
And, I agree, it's kinda boring.
@johannesseyfried7933 From what I've seen, it really needed more DBZ homages than Sailor Moon.
Throw in there X-men: Evolution, too.
Why do multiverse stories having a superhero league comprised of only one person insted of diffrent versions of diffrent heroes or just having all heroes across the multiverses?
Because it was only done to attempt to rationalize their complete destruction of Lois Lane's character
The show really likes to over play it's cards. How many time foes Clark tearfully says goodbye to Lois before going to fight something he can beat
In defense of Snyder’s take on Superman, the point there was to give Superman an arc where he goes from someone unsure of his place in the world to being the ideal hero. You see parts of that in Zack Snyder’s Justice League and it would’ve culminated in the grand finale had the original plan been followed. It’s more like Superman going on a Luke Skywalker-esque Hero’s Journey to becoming the ideal hero (and without the treatment Disney gave Luke in the Sequels, at least with the original ending).
Was probably the best way to reconcile the two views on Superman. He’s still the ideal hero at the end, but since we see his journey getting there, growing and going through a lot of problems, it feels earned.
Unfortunately, executive meddling cut all that down, pleasing no one.
Alot of people rip on zack but for his portrayal of superman. But i personally think it does make for a realistic interpretation of a being with superpowers who grows into his true self while also seeing the realistic depictions of how people would see him as a god.
I do think people can be abit to harsh on his different interpretation and i believe he did understand the characters and it was a growth the characters would go through.
@@lostonegrey1555 Yeah. Again, the entire point was for Superman to become the hero. So that way he can have struggles and doubt himself, even going through the lowest point in BvS like Luke did in ESB, but still comes out the end the hero. There’s also a lot of Watchmen influence there, and while Dr. Manhattan eventually lost his humanity and didn’t gain it back until it was too late, Superman never lost it and he saves the day at the end. That’s definitely inspiring, and the dark harshness beforehand does make the final heroism feel sweeter.
I love Superman/Clark, been a Long-Time Fan of the Character ever since I was young. I also really dig Anime but man... After many Years since "Superman: TAS" I was very disappointed in the show. While I liked SOME things from it like Supes/Clark himself, Black Jimmy, & trying to be more SliceOfLife-ish but everything else for me falls apart. I HATE the implementation of the "Kryptonian Language" (more like Gibberish) that I find to be pointless so I have to disagree that it was a "Nice Change" since in previous iterations we see Hologram Jor-El speak English regardless & moves the plot organically forward (like in the Classic Superman Films & Man Of Steel). The Villains being drawn & written were the worse offenders making the Story suffer drastically (Suicide Squad vs. Superman... Enough with that nonsensical idea). I STRONGLY agree how they handled the Multiverse here because it was rushed, contrived, & not much to be bothered with.
I didn’t entirely hate My Adventures With Superman, but there was a lot I felt the show could’ve improved on.
The plot feels clunky and rushed. There are things that the story should’ve spent more time developing and other things that could’ve been left out entirely until later (like the multiverse). Also, none of the villains stand out in terms of their design, personality, or motivations, and I found them all to be rather bland. Their fights were also not great. In almost every fight scene, the villain has some obvious weakness, and then once that’s dealt with, Superman punches them, and the fight is over. I think they wrote it that way so Lois and Jimmy would have opportunities to help, but there were more creative ways to do that.
The best example of this is what they did with Mr. Mxyzptlk (Spoilers for episode 7).
Since Mr. Mxyzptlk’s original character is that he’s this all-powerful multidimensional being, but he’s neither omnipotent nor super intelligent. So, the best way to defeat him is by exploiting his egocentric and mischievous personality and outsmarting him into losing his own game. In most versions, the way to defeat him is by tricking him into saying his name backward, but there are many other games/challenges a writer could come up with. In My Adventures With Superman, they made Mr. Mxyzptlk’s weakness his hat. Taking off his hat makes him weaker. Thats it. It’s just such a boring and disappointing change, especially since Mr. Mxyzptlk is technically one of the characters that Lois or Jimmy could defeat on their own if they devised a unique way to outsmart him.
It’s just that I felt like My Adventures With Superman had a lot of potential that got wasted.
So, mixed bag, could be better. That's actually better than what I was expecting honestly. Superman is rarely handled well
The villains are the main reason I couldn't get into the show, there all very meh. I'm definitely not excited for there version of lex, I doubt they'll do him justice.
While I'm okay with how CADMUS is more about genetic engineering/cloning in this, that's because I'm familiar enough with the books to know that how they normally are while the DCAU merged CADMUS with Checkmate.
Most of the other changes, I will say, don't really click with me. A lot of the designs feel kinda poor and making almost every villain tech based while they were metahumans in other things was bizarre. With Silver Banshee and Deathstroke, I got the feeling that the creators cared more about having characters that looked like Ryoko from Tenchi or Gray Fox from Metal Gear than trying to adapt the characters. Besides, Superman already has a bunch of tech based villains like Metallo and Toyman, so why not use one of them?
I get the feeling some of the writers didn't get the troubling issues how Mallah and Brain are in this show because they were too focused on having a gay ship. I've sadly seen that happen in other shows like She-Ra, and several of the people here also worked on She-Ra. Make of that what you will.
I don't understand your complaint about The Brain and Monsieur Mallah; they've been a gay couple since the original Doom Patrol in the 60s. All that was changed about them was they're not running the Brotherhood of Evil and are instead just irresponsible but kinda charming mad scientists....they're Doom Patrol nonsense, nobody's protective of the Doom Patrol's integrity, not even Grant Morrison when he revived their serial after they were all dead for 20 years. This was Brain and Mallah played pretty true-to-form but with Mallah having a silly Mr Rogers kind of air to him with the sweater instead of a bandolier of bullets and a beret
My main problem with the show is that the villains are unrecognizable from their comic counterparts.
League of Lois Lane was the worst part of the show.
3:31 I will say that Smallive did it better portraying Superman. Casting him as a teenage really connect for the audience back then, because he not only he was learning his power, but also dealing personal issues being lying his love ones about his true idenfity, his relationship with Lux, school life, losing friends & family, dealing other superpower people, learn ing his action/word have consequence, etc. The show really did excellent good on Superman/Clark kent character as whole and even other characters too.
Lately it feels like nobody wants to make the shows that they've been asked to make. This show clearly wants to be a mecha anime. The people behind thundercats Roar just wanted to do a show for the 5-8 audience. ND Stevenson actively hated the original She-ra. I'm doubtful that whoever made lower decks had even watched star trek. Hollywood actresses apparently hate the old Disney movies that they've been asked to help remake. Nobody is happy to just be a part of a creative endeavour anymore. It all has to suit their exact tastes and interests.
The emphasis on tech and pots-and-pans robots is because their stated influence is the Golden Age- especially the Max Fleischer cartoon- and the kinda wacky early Silver Age material- which are pretty ideal for the Year One style story they were making. Superman, and the JSA and JLA in general, fought a lot of silly robots back then, he also wasn't so powerful back then either; most throwaway villains of that era were mad scientists and that included most of the original Justice Society foes. Even things the Shaggy Man, who are (because there's at least 3 of them) hilariously still framed as a threat the JLA even at their modern senses of scale can't defeat, were the results of freak weird science accidents. But there's also a practical story purpose for everyone being more tech based instead of being metahumans in that it connects all the antagonists together and into the main plot of the whole failed Kryptonian invasion from decades earlier.
Loved Clark's portrayal. The villans left alot to be desired.
Ironically I actually liked anime Mr. Mxyzptlk. Despite his weird design he did feel like the character
While he looks nothing like any past design, the moment he introduces himself and starts talking, it clicks "Yeah that's him all right" Same with a lot of these radical redesigns for main characters- they still get who these characters are and what makes them, them. Jimmy's still a complete goober that is recognizably "Jimmy Olsen: Superman's Pal" even if he's not a pasty ginger in this incarnation. I still can't get over Lois looking so much like Luz from the Owl House, but that's more about me meming than genuinely disliking it, the shorthaired tomboy look works; she's definitely still recognizably the standard takes-no-shit Lois Lane characterization, just younger to match this Year One style story.
As for the villains, the only ones who really matter in my opinion were General Lane and Amanda Waller, who are pretty spot on. Lane's a bit softer in this, and that's fine too since they want him to serve as a contrast to Waller's classic ruthlessness and frankly there's so many other stubborn military jarheads in the DC IPs just like classic Lane if they want to go back to that, like General Eiling (who is the one simply being called The General usually refers to anyway). But Livewire, Silver Banshee, Mist, Heatwave...they're throwaways in their story presence and again, that's fine for a Year One story...Deathstroke being a young prettyboy feels odd to me but again, it's not some fatal offense and it ended with him setting up to segue into a look more matching his iconic design and character (assuming they do play into that his employer literally set up the scenario that just disfigured him, any played straight Deathstroke would not simply tolerate that). All that aside, I really liked what they did with The Brain and Monsieur Mallah...sure they just threw out the Brotherhood of Evil, but Mallah as a mad scientist Mr Rogers was delightful.
My final assessment is that while they changed a lot, the staff show they do KNOW where it all came from and show they do care about the material while reinventing it to not just be the same shit we've seen a million times already. Even the idea that most of these enemies are tech based villains and boxy pots and pans robots is right out of the Golden Age comics- Superman mainly fought goofy robots (when he wasn't fighting Nazis or the Japanese) in those and in the Max Fleischer cartoon...they even had Clark punching a beam weapon out of the way like in the Fleischer show.
It was hard to get through 2 episodes so I dropped it. I also saw more of the designs this show has and I can safely say I hate 99% of the designs of the characters in this show.
I said this on another video about this topic, but I feel like they should have replaced Slade with Metallo since
A: Metallo is a Superman associated villain and not a Batman or Justice League associated one, since Deathstroke is most commonly known for being a Batman or Justice league villain.
B: It could open up a storyline about Metallo being a big name in the mercenary world, but he gets easily thrashed by Superman because Superman is superhuman. Then you can have a kind of arc where he slowly starts augmenting himself to match Superman until eventually he goes full Metallo.
I also have to painfully agree with the livewire argument since apart from the name there’s no connection to the source material, and even if the Shock Jock angle was considered outdated, you can easily have her as an independent reporter who’s distrusting of Superman, and finds herself in a similar situation as in the Animated cartoon; or Cadmus can experiment on her and give her the Livewire powers.
I feel like this show is best described as interesting ideas and good potential that’s only halfway utilized. Missed opportunities and questionable choices all around, but not the worst modern day cartoon or show by a long shot.
Deathstroke is a teen titans villain.
Yes, but in many properties he is a Batman villain and fights Batman, take Arkham Origins for example. My main point still stands is that Deathstroke is not part of Superman’s Rouges gallery, or considered a nemesis to him on a personal basis.
This is how I would have done it, since they want the characters to be younger. Get rid of Jimmy, first I really hate race swaps, second Jimmy was at least 5 years younger the Clark and Louis. John Henry (Steel) would have been perfect as his roommate. Since the show is heavily influenced by tech. Why not use an engineer character who happens to be black. He can help Louis and Clark with the weird tech. Livewire can be a RUclips influencer like Logan Paul, she would kinda like background noise, like how Harvy Dent showed up before he became two face in BTAS. Let Louis be Louis, a sharp tongue no nonsense type of girl. Put her in a skirt, nothing wrong with being feminine.
Many who say Superman is boring or perfect don't understand the character. Superman put it best saying he lives in a word of cardboard and fighting Darkseid. This Clark just feels more of punchline, like braking everything and needing a bib to eat donuts while still struggling to find out "Who he is" things he would have known before going to Metropolis.
Jimmy just looks like Bow as well as Mxyzptlk looks like he's from shera, which isn't surprising given the people that worked on the show. And Lex just looks like an evil version of Peter from that forgotten Spider-Man show. I don't think the showrunners are fans of anime, just "Take from popular anime and watch people point at the reference" trope.
Also; I think real anime fans/studio could do better. Look at Spider-Man: False Red. While a Manga, it's still a good story.
*Spiderman: Fake Red
What's wrong with that
Uh, they were not 'anime fans'. They didn't understand one thing about how Anime tropes or why they work... And the crew did work on Owl House which explains why they don't actually understand what or why Superman does what he does. Also, 'Lois' is not 'cute' she's manipulative and a liar, this is not someone anyone wants in their lives, she risked her own life on a gamble and did the EXACT THING she JUST said she'd NEVER do. Because no one in Metropolis has phones with cameras to capture some flying dood catching a psycho woman. Who if she was wrong, would have made him look like a murderer! Oh, and she'd be dead.
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That’s kind of the point of Mxyzptlk. In most animated and printed media, he’s supposed to stand out since he’s not from out dimension. In the DCAU, he looks closer to a Tiny Toons character than the show’s more conservative designs.
His personality and powers were far more insulting changes than his appearance
If I may rise in my 2 cents about the power development. I think it was meant to work like how in kingdom come, due to prolonged exposure to the sun, he developed his other powers over time. Some simply took longer than others. Smallvill did something similar, though Clark was still young.
Yeah it's a mixed bad for me too...
but hope for season 2 and on to feel much better! :)
My adventures with Superman was just mid to me. In an era where The Boys, Invincible and Peacemaker exist, it really didn't break the mold for me or make itself stand out
To me, it was a cute romance will not much else going for it.
I will say I enjoyed this show more than I thought I would, but I agree with most of your criticisms. I did like the new take on the design for slade wilson though. I thought it was funny making him a pretty boy.
I really want to say that I wish they would stop ripping off
Avatar The Last Airbender's animation style and "quirk" but
this is ripping off She Ra's rip off of Avatar's animation style.
There’s no need to race swap so many of the characters in this cartoon.
I just watched Battle of the Supersons. And they really portrayed Superman right there. Unfortunately, they race swapped Jimmy Olsen.
Modern hollywood just hates redheads is the only explaination i can think of with the raceswapping at this point.
I don't think it's that big of a deal race swapping characters has been entertainment for decades
@@bunbunny8851that explanation makes no sense why would I will get rid of redheads
Its like when a character goes black, they never go back.
I know that evil superman has flooded the market since injustice. but there have been series and movies(mostly animated) that do feature the true superman in recent years.
I like the show. I admit the show isn't perfect, but for what it is, it's decent.
However, I have to point out that the Louis's have an base full of non Superman related items, like *Mr Mxyzptlk's hat* . Meaning the Leage of Louis isn't Clark bias, they just aware that a Clark CAN become a bad guy.
I do admit that the criminals that Superman was facing at the start were underwhelming and COULD have been used better, BUT, I think that they did good on serving the audience a good view on how dangerous Kryptonian technology can be, and how dangerous Operation Zero Day IS. The General, Wallerx and Slade were willing to put kids in danger to get Superman captured. Now with Waller in charge, I fear how many egg producers will have to rot just so she can make ONE omelet.
Seems like the show doesn't want consistency based on everything I heard, so I'm gonna skip it
My only explanation as to why Superman is still struggling with his powers would probably because of years of trying to suppress his Kryptonian side and only now starting to embrace these gifts has made it awkward for him to try to control his newly awakened powers.
i haven't watched the show myself yet since tbh i'm not interested in it really at all and from what i heard and seen online i don't think im missing much of anything, but man as someone who really likes character designs and making them, the designs aren't very good with a lot of them looking unrecognizable to the character there suppose to be portraying.
honestly unless i was told who the character is i would have no idea who half of them are, maybe even more so. characters you mentioned like mr.mxyzptlk, slade, banshee, and the one i was the most shocked about (no pun intended heh) livewire, i had no idea who they were until someone said there names and i saw a comparison to there past designs.
It's like a Superman in name only to me.
I'm glad you said the very thing I felt about this show, this western inspired anime isn't bad but too much too soon which is sadly why I'm avoiding the show, I don't hate what it is I'm just not ready for it.
Ngl I really liked the show but your criticism is very valid and some problems that you pointed out I do think they should fix in a season 2, my rating for it is still at an solid 8/10 tho
This show feels more like a novvist writer whithout a developed style try write superman
Plenty of flaws, weird choices, characters a bit too simple for an adult show, but yet, it still nails on enough things to keep you engaged, and hoping they gain experience and get better
I like it. it's definitely better than average. it's no teen titans or avatar the last airbender, but it's enjoyable. i definitely think they messed up livewire and deadshot though
In my opinion The multiverse was handled just fine in this show and it relates to every classic cartoon in the history of the multiverse and that's kind of what I want to see here the multiverse connecting everything
I took it that Lois was just mad at Clark's hypocrisy, after having him make a big deal out of her lying.
The show is flawed, but the writing for Clark has been fantastic. I am so happy they stayed faithful to the true character of Superman: He is a man who only wants to help as much as he can. The writers have a better understanding of Superman than Zack Synder and James Gunn.
I will admit that the romance was rushed, most of the villain designs are bland and boring, and the Lois getting mad at Clark about his secret was just annoying. Why must every female love interest get pissed over their boyfriend for being a superhero. Also Brian and Mallah actually have a surprisingly healthy relationship and I doubt Brain wanted to groom mallah. The romance just slowly developed.
And the multiverse was introduced far too quickly. Honestly the multiverse has become overexposed by this point.
I've only seen the first episode and a few clips here and there. I am liking what I'm seeing but I do agree with your criticisms. I the writing for season 2 gets better 🙂
While Lois's design is cute, and I don't know what she sounds like, but she looks like a child. Like a 12 year old.
the most annoying thing is she doesnt look like but they have vickie vale in that show that doesnt look like vickie vale but literally looks like the actual lois lane.
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The character redesigns are 100% aping the redesign aesthetic found in the 2018 She-Ra, with a primary difference of allowing more literally-adult characters.
But the style is *extremely* similar to the She-Ra show, and the... I don't know... ideology? ... design principles? ... "aesthetic" again? - whatever it is, the way the characters are redesigned is directly comparable to the way they were redesigned for She-Ra.
She-Ra 2018 itself heavily drew upon work in Avatar: the Last Airbender for character aesthetics that was filtered through a fantasy/She-Ra palette and scope.
(You can see the actual A:tLA aesthetic principles modified through western fantasy at work in The Dragon Prince, but 2018 She-Ra was clearly inspired by a combination of A:tLA and the softer experiences of things like My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic, but with the 80s retro-futuristic sensibilities of the original She-Ra instead of strictly modern fantasy.)
Another critically important source of aesthetic is Voltron: Legendary Defender, itself a precursor to She-Ra 2018's. I guess in a way, MAoS actually harkens a little more back to V:LD's style than SR2018, if only because they allow older characters, a wider variety of designs, and a bolder color palette. Either way, you can see the clear comparisons made between the three shows and can see A:tLA's influence (even if it wasn't a conscious decision).
This contrasts with, say, the redesigns for the *The Masters of the Universe: Revelation* aesthetic.
And, absolutely, My Adventures of Superman is it's own thing - my point isn't that anything was stolen, but to point to clear visual trends and aesthetic influences that led to its development.
Excellent review. As much as I enjoyed the Snyderverse interpretation (as you’re well aware 😂) it was refreshing to see a more classical Superman.
I agree with a good majority of your points regarding the art style and the consistency of Jimmy’s character. Not everything in the show worked, but the stuff that did kept me very much invested in where it goes next.
The show is agressively mid tbh, i also can't get over how lame all the villains are and since I love the villains in DC this show was a "no" for me.
When it comes to superman as a character, there is no such thing as being too good or too much boyscout(Which I despise that word sometimes). There is only such a thing as Good as you can be. In spite of whatever short comings or problems that you have. He is not suppose to be that many people nowadays wants him to be, which is a scumbag anti-hero or a villain.
Many people just forgets that superman is a Classic hero, who embodies a good and firm moral compass. But, does not necessary mean that compass is invincible nor it is messy.
Man who does the right thing because he wants to and inspired to as well.
I really like this show. I'm so tired of evil Superman, so this show was a breathe of fresh air.
I think that we'll see Jor-El's hologram again when Kara shows up, since she'll presumably have her own ship with it's own holograms, and Jor-El is her uncle.
She's been confirmed to appear in this show.
The backgrounds are really nice but this style absolutely does not suit the DC universe.
I for one think this was one of the best Superman's I've seen in a long time it actually believe it or not brings back a lot of the classic traditional material finally Superman the here I knew as a kid with hope and truth justice and the American way is back I have missed like Dean Cain and red underwear I've missed light-hearted colors a beautiful storytelling between Lois and Clark Clark looks amazing anime i have misted that about him From days of Smallville and Christopher reave a legend born a hero tacks flight this anime brings back that super friend animation I have missed it for so long it's finally back thank you what I was sad about for a long time when they started changing his character to a darker characterLike the marnen day incredible halk that is not Superman at least not the one I know thank you for bringing him back anime now please make more seasons pretty please ❤
"If it comes out."
Didn't the Season Finale have "Season 2 in Production." at the end?
Honestly I thought it was fine. And a step in the right direction. Not the best or perfect by any means as there are things to criticize but yeah this was handled a lot better than I was expecting them too after almost a decade of crap from western entertainment. From what I understand it barely passed for a season 2 so hopefully the writers of this show are taking the legit criticisms and learn to improve the writing and handling of episodes especially since it looks like we will be seeing zod. So yeah Lois and Clark were handled very well, clunky in a couple of spots and I do get the general of what they're going for with superman here and I think the writers felt like they had to make the villains be something equal to superman who is learning his powers bit by bit by h ing the villains gain their powers through mutations from using what we now know is Kryptonian technology. So it is a decent idea to balance the scales out a bit.
So I do give it a recommendation to check out as it least does pique my interest in how season 2 will go.
I love tomboys, but it annoys me as that isn't Lois Lane
I swear to God give japanese writers superman they would put a wild story look at one punch man and all might. They were Handel perfectly. P.S. Lois would be drawn with the most female body if japan got it you know what I mean by that 😏
Oh, because she's Korean.
I think they should have done the route with Jimmy since he's a Superman fan what could end up happening is he witnessed Superman killing someone and believing he did it on purpose. And due to that misunderstanding, he vowed to destroy the man who truly was pretending to be a hero and his mind. Or he witnessed Superman cover up a murder that he accidentally did is so just outright saying it some skew thing for another universe and he says collecting other jimmies after they do their research on their Superman to see which one is a good one and which one's a bad one in the bad ones become executioner style hunt them down. Maybe even Lois Lane work where dark Superman and escape to this Clark's universe and the League of jimmies are hunting her down.
8:43 So Mala instead of the Brain’s bodyguard, they made him his lover. Making this a gay, experiment and doctor, and bestiality situation. That is wrong on so many levels.
Actually that's comic accurate. Like it has been like this for 20 years... I know it's weird even for a doom patrol story
@@ethanmalandain3072 Still doesn’t mean it’s not wrong on multiple levels.
@@KingNazaru that's why I said it weird... It's like when I watched a south Park episode. It's so wrong but also funny
@@ethanmalandain3072 Just without the funny.
@@KingNazaru the love story between these two made me wonder if they were on drugs when they had the idea
The evil RUclipsr thing with Livewire is SUCH a missed opportunity! I felt like she was just another standard criminal in this. Also did anyone else feel that the fights were a bit too Disney? I felt like Clark wasn't allowed to actually fight back sometimes with the villains either being defeated by their own hubris or a random piece of the scenery falling on them. I get that they were trying to go for a 'nicer' superman but he's almost a bit TOO nice to the point of being a bit soft. I can't picture this one doing the famous 'Superman Stare' with an intimidating face and crossed arms. I don't wanna yuck anyone's yum but it just didn't sit right with me.
I haven't watched this show yet, so it would be dumb of me try to argue for or against it. I just wanted to say gow nice it is to have another Superman cartoon, I'm so sick of constant Batman reboots. And Clark is really cute in this too, so that has to count for something. Maybe we can finally give Wonder Woman her turn and give the Green Lantern cartoon a second season? Something to think about.
I would have done almost everything differently, despite it’s annoying elements the show’s enjoyable but not something I’d religiously rewatch like the dcau.
I’d say Lois is my favorite character, and she’s the most well rounded one.
He’s too much of a doofus, but I like that it showcases who Superman really is, a regular guy that happens to have powers.
Personally I really liked the show. Yeah I agreed about the Scientist and Gorilla part... yeah they didn't need to do that... but aside that, I had a good time and was happy we got a Superman Cartoon again after so many years.
So here's my thoughts. I as must liked that they maintained Clark's good nature character in this. I think some of the stuff with the military is good and some of the other characters are handled well.
What I didn't like was how they changed most of the villains in the show to the point where they're unrecognizable and replays all mutant characters into tech villains. The thing that irritates me about this change there is no reason to have to have most of the villains have this equipment, mainly intergang and that gender bent flame villain who were changed to be incompetent and just delinquents. There's no reason for the government to use them and no reason them to keep obtaining this advance weapondry. The second reason is the government could just take the tech, which was already there's for there soldiers who should have experience with it.
The other thing I don't like is the over antagonizing of kryptonians. It wouldn't be a problem if it was just that insadent involving aliens but had to be kryptonians and also had that holograme of evil Supermen in that awful episode in the multiverse. I feel like it's a bit overboard.
Those were my thoughts.
This show is the result of what would happen if you put tard wranglers on a modern cartoon's writing team but not the design team. It's kinda the opposite of that one modern comic reboot of Static Shock where all the cool redesigns and early art were wasted on the bad writing.
i think the multiverse trope has been used to death, and seeing that they hopped on it INSTANTLY killed my interest for the show. It gets SO BORING SO QUICKLY when every single new piece of media hops on the multiverse
TBF, this show was most likely written last year, when the multiverse fatigue wasn't a thing yet.
This was one of the best animation my respect the previous shows but this was animazing plus it did give younger superman
"Mr Mxyzsptlk looks like he came out from a completely different show and the difference is jarring."
.... The original design for Mr Mxyzsptlk *already* intentionally made him look like he came out of a different show (only he look like a Tex Avery comedy cartoon as opposed to Superman's more realistically drawn style) as a way to play up he was from another dimension, so I don't really see how that's a problem in that instance.
Personally I would like ultra humanite and Dolores winters instead the brain and mallah.
And I would switch heatwave with volcana and have volcana be the first villain/weapon dealer instead of livewire. And eventually Leslie Willis (who a rival to jimmy) become livewire and challenge superman only to be caught by deathstroke.
With Brain and Mala. I already found their relationship disgusting seeing it as bestiality. However, now because of you MJ Tanner. I realized it was grooming.
They've been a bizarre love between a disembodied brain-in-a-jar and his hyper intelligent gorilla assistant literally since their original roles as the leaders of the Brotherhood of Evil in the Doom Patrol back in the 60's; one of their side-MO's was the get Brain a new body, and the first he did after stealing one of Robotman's was to confess to his love to Mallah....then the body exploded right when they were about to kiss.
So with mxyz design in both this show and in comics it's explained that he takes a form in every universe that fits it's structure, because if he doesn't he risks destroying himself and that universe in the process, i recommend reading the superman event called superman reborn for the context
Honestly...this show should've had them as teens...it would've worked better.
These characters are suposed to be adults...
Not that it's needed, but if they bring in any other heroes, I'd be okay with an older Bruce Wayne showing up or referenced.
Just something that popped into my head when Vicki Vale showed up as Louis's role model.
it honestly sounds like a "anime with Superman" show than a "Superman in anime" with good and mix elements, tho, I'm not gonna lie I'm not giving it a chance, aside from not trusting Warner, it just seems off to me, but again, I literally watch a good chunk of Batman animated show adaptations up to Beware The Batman, so yeah, off