The OTHER Governments that existed alongside the Empire! (Legends)
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- Опубликовано: 24 июл 2024
- We take a look at the other governments which existed alongside the Empire in Star Wars Legends - from the Hapans, to the Corporate Sector Authority, to the Chiss and more! We cover all of them on today's Star Wars Legends lore video!
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The Empire actually tried and failed to conquer the Hapans. It could no doubt have taken them over in a total war scenario. However, given everything else going on in the galaxy, the Empir couldn’t commit most of its forces to that invasion. The Courtship of Princess Leia actually began with the Hapans sending a large fleet to Coruscant, composed of both Hapan Battle Dragons as well as captured Imperial Star Destroyers.
The hapans are super fucking annoying to deal with in thrawns revenge
I always thought the Empire was focusing on further explorations in the Deep Core hence a lot of resources were utilized to expand in that region versus other areas.
No the dark side would dominate them
Which isn't what happened, at all. Galactic Emperor Palpatine literally sent Grand Admiral Osvald Teshik with only 1 pursuit cruiser (basically just an overglorified corvette) and 8 gunships to enter Japan space in a deliberate attempt to get him killed.
The reason being that Darth Sidious wanted to punish him for failing to deal with Rebel-aligned privateers in his Oversector.
Had the Galactic Empire ever launched a serious invasion attempt, then the Hapes Consortium wouldn't have lasted longer than 5 seconds.
My understanding from The Courtship of Princess Leia was that the Empire did make a push to conquer Hapes at one point that failed brutally, which led to the Empire putting off new attempts at least for a while
Captioning at the beginning: "hey guys, this is a card slider" haha
Ah yes, I love watching card slider videos
I thought I was the only one who watches RUclips caption.. glad to see 100 others do also
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Last time I was this early Morriban was still called Korriban
I'll do you one better.
Last time i was this early, Exegol was still called Dromund Kass
@@AdmiralWillisLee1942 a man of culture i see
Korriban, Morriban, Azkaban, its all the same to Kathleen "masculine man bad" Kennedy, she chose the word because it has "ban" in it which is exactly what snowflakes like her are all about.
Think about the most delicious meal you've ever had and then picture someone taking a big diarrhea dump all over it.
You love the food, but the dump just makes it unbearable to even look at and ruins tge entire experience...or when a chick uses teeth during a bj...this is what she's done to me, she has ruined Star Wars for me it's almost impossible for me to enjoy anything knowing that the future of Star Wars Canon is entrusted to a bunch of ideologues.
Sundered Eagle what?
Sundered Eagle take a chill pill man
Why did the Jedi Council thought that killing General Grievous would end the war? there were many other Generals and Admirals who could continue fighting #AskEck
General grievous became the leader after Dookus death, but I see what you mean
Because he could take on and kill jedi, he was responsible for killing many many jedi, as well as led the droid army
At least in legends, the war before and after grevious was DRAMATICALLY different. Grievous united the separatists military, which prior to him was much more divided between corporations, groups, and planets within the Confederacy. The separatists were only wining the early war because the republic was so unprepared for war and once they got the ball rolling the republic could effectively counter the original separatist threat. Hence why sidious introduced grievous, to escalate and match the GAR at full tilt. So I imagine the logic there was "if we kill grievous, the separatists might default to their pre-grievous state" which, at the level they were at by episode 3, they could defeat.
Well Grievous held a lot of power and likely didn't have a very obvious successor ready to step in and pick up the pieces. At the very least there would have been a period of confusion and loss of direction.
That said I never got the impression Greivous was an unstoppable strategic mastermind, he was a savage and shrewd warrior yes, but his schemes where foiled time and again. Maybe it was just Jedi hubris again. A Jedi could take on a legion of battledroids single-handed, a Jedi was easily worth a thousand clones, so an enemy that actively hunted and killed Jedi would obviously be considered the greatest threat imaginable. With monsters like that out of the way the rest of the CIS forces could be mopped up in due time surely.
Think of it like when the emperor died, just... not that big. They would still stick together and all, but Grievous was their best and after Dooku was dead, well, there would be a huge power vacuum. Also, since the best commander was gone, then more would follow or even surrender.
I always assumed that the republic was more of a confederation or intergalactic union rather than an actual sovereign nation.
Kind of like the EU, UN, or NATO. While they were decently centralized, every planet within it seemed to have its own local government that ran the show.
That’s why you had so many kings, queens, and viceroys ruling their own planets within the “republic.”
This is very true.
That is how the united federation planet functions in Star Trek
Please make a more detailed video about the Hapes Consortium.
This please!
Agreed
It's a shame the Hapes Consortium has been relegated to Legends. I'm not to keen on the Battle Dragon, but the Miy'til starfighter was cool.
what's your opinion on the Nova Cruiser?
The Hapes Cluster is still astrographically where it’s supposed to be in Canon maps, but that’s about it. I wish more that the Legends books would continue, and we could get more of Hapes that way.
Mr Bencroft Or that their turbolasers suck. But their ion cannon and gravity well tech is nice.
@@pwnorbepwned There is a new Legends book coming out soon, though it's only online. It's called Supernatural Encounters, and will be published on the Star Wars Timeline site.
@@pwnorbepwned or simply add them to the cannon, or have cannon expand more on them.
Vader 's command:
His Starfighter forces (Soontir Del) and 501st went to the Empire of the Hand. The remnants of his naval assets also end up with Thrawn, though, without knowledge of the EoH.
Fel went to the Chiss, and his son became Emperor. At some point, the 501st entered service of the Fel Dynasty.
Perhaps a video on this, and how Gilad Pelleon pulled Death Squadron together after Executor and Admiral Piett were lost?
#askeck Apart from the Yuuzhan Vong, did any other extra-galactic or whatever civilisations enter (not just invade) the galaxy between 40BBY and 60 ABY?
Nagai from Marvel comics are Canon, as Darth Nihl was one.
Canon meaning EU not DU.
The old Marvel comics had the Tof and Nagi.
A group of "googly-eyed aliens" which captured an ISD and a rebel ship, studied them for a while, then let them go.
Also the Abominor and Silentium, two droid races who went to war over differing ideologies. This war lead to the Yuuzhan Vong rising to power and gaining their hatred of technology.
Stay safe eck keep up the great work
i love hut space so much - i wish they did more on the hut empire in cannon
Great video as usual Ecks! Very interesting lesser known topic yet important. Can’t wait to see more!
Great video, this is why Ecks is my favorite Star Wars/sci fi channel
Great vid as usual!
Cool vid,luv your channel dude.
IT would be cool if you could do more alternate history and theorys about starwars and halo.Also if you could consider delving in to warhammer or other universes.
Never stop doing videos! Because you make them very interesting!!
From one Maritimer to another keep up the good work. Love the content, huge Starwars fan.
The Empire of the Hand returned after the Second Galactic Civil War, under the command of Jag Fel.
How many slaves did the rebels kill when they blew up the second Death Star? #askeck
How many people did the empire kill when they destroyed Alderaan?
They were independent contractors, and knew the politics they were involved with.
How many wookies did the empire torture when they took over kashyyyk
@@thiccchungo1041 we know that one- 2 billion. to put that into perspective, the population of Earth was about 4 billion. Think about that for a minute... It always bothers me when people joke about it.
@Josiah Zabel Actually it’s around 1 to 2 Million, since Obi-wan said Millions instead of billions several million etc.
I'd like to see more about individual Planetary Defense Forces like Naboo. Be interesting to see more unique designs.
Why didn’t the Chiss ascendancy help the Empire win the war?
Because lucasfilm wanted the rebels to win
Mac Welch the Chiss believe in self defense that’s why.
The Chiss are pretty non-interventionist. They didn’t really care about the Galactic Civil War, they just wanted to be left alone
They are very isolationist so they tried to stay out of everything beyond Chiss Space
They also don’t believe in preemptive strikes, meaning they will only enter war when another group attacks first.
Great video, fascinating topic
Star Wars is rather weird when it comes to galactic governments, in a sharp contrast to other sci-fi franchises like Star Trek or Warhammer 40K in which there are multiple factions within the galaxy. For instance, in Star Trek, you have the Federation, the Klingon Empire, the Romulan Star Empire, the Cardassian Union, the Dominion, the Borg, and various other factions, ranging in size from just a single star system to spanning thousands of lightyears from one end to another. Meanwhile in Star Wars, you just have the Galactic Republic, the Galactic Empire, and... that's really it, with any other factions being either too small to compete or being more-or-less of an afterthought in the greater narrative.
I guess the Star Wars galaxy is suppose to represent Earth but on a galactic scale with planets being countries or regions and the different species being enthic groups
Not really I mean eventually in both of those universe one power will eventually swallow the others and the end result will be the star wars galaxy. The SW Galaxy was once like Warhammers and STs galaxies but that was several millennia ago. In fact in later legends books in reverted back to that state periodical y.
Might be a cool to do a video on the Old Republic planetary governments. In Legends the Republic is more of a loose military/economic alliance for large swaths of its history, rather than an actual centralized government. You have the Corellian, Alsakan, Azure, Esselian Empires, among many others.
Can you make a video commenting on the varying levels of sovereignty within the different sectors under the Imperial system and the political infighting between the Moffs? I was under the impression that some Moffs, as long as they didn't make too much noise to attract Coruscants attention could kind of run the show locally.
Could you make a video(s) about in depth Legends vehicles/manufacturing of the different technologies in star wars, like comn links, binoculars. Keep up the great work!! You're videos are my favorite to watch because of the detail provided in each video about the topic
Great clip
2:30 If you look to the area called Ash Worlds, there’s a planet called Lego!
That planet was in TCW, but it was Iego with an i.
Minifigs and LEGO City confirmed to be cannon
Ryan Sulistyono Legi? Or Ligo?
I prefer the planet Mega-blox in the outer rim myself
Watching this on my last break at work today
The Centrality man! You can't just leave them in a footnote like that.
Ironically I think that's how the essential atlas treated it.
Explain the Hapes in more detail.
Hapes Consortium is the government of Hapan Cluster, which is a kingdom ruled by a Mother Queen - due the matriarchal society of Hapans created as result of the almost total extermination of male population by the Jedi attack on Lorell Raider, the pirates whom Hapans descend, chooing an isolationist policy, enforced by the Hapan Cluster that lasted until 8 ABY.
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Interesting.
Also heard that they are very beautiful
A video on all the different governments/imp warlords after endor would be interesting. Maybe include independence movements too.
Interesting list
When i hear your intro i become really happy
Would love a video on the rogue sith group you mentioned towards the end!
I would like to see videos about some of these factions like the csa or hapes
Yes, it would be really interesting.
The C.S.A was one of my favorite stories and it got me my favorite character Coran Horn , in my favorite novel IJEDI
Could you do a more in depth video on the Hapes cluster. I vaguely remember them from reading some of the novels in my teens and your brief overview has me curious now.
Gives new meaning to Sheev and the boys.
Wow that is cool 😎
Hey Eck, will you be covering anymore SCP content in the future? Love your channel btw
If I was more confident in my abilities I’d have written works out there exploring this topic further in a scenario where an existing government of an independent sector with conflicting ideals to that of the Empire’s is being pushed/manipulated into coming under their umbrella of power, and the consequences that’d come with it both domestically and militarily.
Person: Would you like to join the Imperial Surveyor Corps
Me after watching : No............no
Corps
Thank you
#askeck how did the hutts respond to Leia killing Jabba? Did they send bounty hunters?
You can see The ghost in Rogue one attack scene on your video on every ship on the Battle of scarif rebellion Cruiser when they fire on the bridge split-second you can see it
Please cover the different sith governments that existed throughout history
The Empire definitely expanded to swallow Hutt Space but allowed the clans a degree of autonomy. In A New Hope's novelisation Vader orders his troops onto Tatooine to search for the Death Star plans and instructs them to ignore the protests of the planetary governor, presumably Jabba or an intermediary.
Hey Eck, great video. Maybe make a meta channel introspection video? New fans would like to know where/what you've been over the years.
An AM video? I haven’t even got my coffee yet
You should do a video on Loose Ends of the Star Wars Legends. Some things like the Carbonite Sith Army from Forces of Corruption, Vader's Capture from Force Unleashed 2, or the Hunt for the Mortiss Monolith would be good possibilities. Though I am sure there are likely a dozen or more.
I don't think there was ever any hunt for the Mortis Monolith. In fact, all the information about the Mortis Arc presented in that series was: Anakin and Obi-Wan recorded going to a strange monolith following a distress call, meeting three powerful beings who correspond to the Ones we've heard about from other sources, and events happening resulting in the death of all three of them and the destruction of the monolith; therefore, the Ones won't be coming to save us and we have to 'kill' Abeloth on our own. However, the Lost Tribe of the Sith was a pretty major loose end.
@@samueldimmock694 From EU/Legends Mortis Monolith Wookipedia Page: The Jedi were searching for it. "In the year 44 ABY, after the death of Abeloth, Grand Master Luke Skywalker sent ten Jedi Knights out to search for the monolith. The Jedi searched for the Dagger of Mortis to prepare for the eventual return of the former Mother" It is mentioned in Crucible and I believe the end of Apocalypse.
@@ryanconrad2786 Okay, I didn't read Crucible, so I guess it could be in there. It's definitely not in Apocalypse, which is the reason why I didn't think it had happened.
@@samueldimmock694 The primary source for the above quote on Wookipedia is Apocalypse. And I remember it from there, I was looking forward to more about it in future books. Sadly, there were only two post-Fate of the Jedi books before the EU was shelved.
@@ryanconrad2786 Wookiepedia is not infallible, and I remember being rather surprised when I got to the end of Apocalypse and there was no mention of the Mortis Dagger or a quest to find a weapon against Abeloth, just a vision in which tentacles appeared out of mist to attack the Jedi throne along with other threats, only to be fought off and dissolve back into mist, and a statement that Abeloth would return someday, and the Jedi would be ready to stop her again.
A video about corporate sector authority would be interesting
Damn, Akbar looking SMOOTH as hell in that intro cutscene
#askeck Thank you for this video!
Now, how much of a physical presence (fleets, patrols, garrisons, offices of state, cloak and dagger ops) did the Empire have in certain parts across the galaxy?
Bro please do more galactic versus please, they where awesome
I wish they would have dropped Easter egg of Blue Max in some of the newer things . I mention this because you spoke of the old Han novels . Which to me still interesting
I still wish that the Zann Consortium had played a role in this future timeline, but perhaps it makes sense that they'd basically be invisible. The perfect consortium of criminal elements, pulling their strings, sowing deceit and holding power without ever being noticed by the states of the galaxy. You did notice them? You're now a disrupted skeleton, tossed into a black hole.
#AskEck
Will you do more non Star Wars stuff like the sci fi short stories you did late last year? Like I have no mouth and I must scream, 9 billion names of god, and the last question?
Can you make more videos about the many Old Republic conflicts and one about the Infinite Empire (if you haven't already)?
#AskEck May I ask a question do you think this may maybe this is how new canon work The Empire continues for a year til the battle of Jakku were sprinted into sub factions some of them form the Imperial remanent others became warlords and other became the first order
Have you thought about covering the comic book adaptation of the original script of star wars? It's really interesting how the ideas changed over time
Please do the entire Grand Army Of The Republic vs. The UNSC both universe full military power in a all out war. The Republic jedi leaders, the null class arc troopers, bad batch, 6 million-2 billion clones(depending on legends or not), clone commandos the entire Republic fleet against the UNSC marine core, ODSTs, all spartin programs, and UNSC fleets. I would like to really see this the clones who are breed for war vs the toughest marines humanity as to offer.
Regarding the Hapes, between the unique galactic "geography" around the Hapes cluster and their effective if absolutely butt-ugly ships, I get the feeling that the Empire tried to do something at first, but decided it wasn't worth the trouble conquering what was essentially a violently isolationist Space Switzerland.
Maybe compare all main capital ships or each major faction you listed pound for pound which is the best
#AskEck
Can you do a video about the Chimera from Resistance vs the Locast from Gears of War?
Which two factions is more deadlier and has more powerful legions?
can you make a video about the First Order invasiono, in the movies ther isn't a focus of the state of the Galaxy, my queastion is, are the First Ordere a "2. Empier"?
I love the Hapes so much, I wish they got more lore expansion under Disney
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In the Ash Worlds, besides Calamari, there is a place called lego, lol
#AskEck could you do a video on Kudar'Mubat? or just generally the assemblers and their species? A bit unrelated to this video, but you said you liked getting suggestions.
How about doing groups like Black Sun or the Zhan Consortium?
Amazed to see X-Wing Alliance in the first few moments of your video.
Post One Year War Earth Federation vs United Colonies of Kobol
I want to see all out war between these factions and the Empire
Hey eck, I'm in nyc and the last few weeks been real bad thanks for the distraction.
I wonder if there was some kind of Communist esche revolution somewhere in Star Wars?
Maybe something like a radical faction of the CIS or political party in the outer rim.
Halo video videa What if the UNSC had never researched the spartan 2 or mjolnir programs. However one month after first contact with the covenant the UNSC INFINITY and her escort fleet of Autumn class cruisers appear at earth through a wormhole. The ships are fully operational and have manuals detailing how all ship systems, such as shielding and more advanced slipsace, operate and also how to build them for other ships. However it does not have the spartan 4s. How does this affect the human covenant war? Does humanity win or lose? #askeck
I can’t believe Palpatine left the Hapes alone. I feel like he would see them as a threat
I would argue that Bothan Space was one of the most powerful entities because of their large information broker centers and spy networks which allowed it to be automatically neutral by default. According to legends material it mentioned that even the Empire respected their independence due to this fact. Hutt Space was slowly losing its autonomy under the Empire and was more a client state that had to pay high taxes to maintain a higher level of autonomy. The intergalactic banking clan and it’s planets were also very powerful since they had the entire galactic economy hostage to the point the Empire wanted to punish them with their involvement with the CIS but couldn’t because it would damage the Empire’s economy!
The Galaxy a big place
The reason the Empire never could take over the tiny Hapan Empire was because despite the Hapans were quite small, they had Extremely powerful mid range ships. Far more powerful than even the Imperial class Star Destroyers. One medium size Dragon ship could take on several Mark II Imperial Star Destroyers. It just wasnt worth the effort for Palpatine to attack them and he knew it. They kept to themselves and didnt cause him grief so he just left them alone. It wasnt until very late in the novels, well after the Yuzhan Vong war and during the war that Jacen Solo finally came to power that the last vestiges of the old Empire led by Ysane Isard finally had the drop on everyone with far superior technology that the biggest and greatest Super Class Star Destroyers and every other ship that other races had stood no chance against tiny little updated Mark II Star Destroyers (you could possibly call the Mark III). Ysane's scientists figured out how to breach other ships shields with ease and destroy ships from the inside with new turbolasers that at first didn't seem to do anything, but minutes later the ships would just break apart. They weakened the metals and let the stresses of space destroy the ship on its own. At that moment no one was safe.
I don’t know about there being no known reason why Hapes wasn’t taken over by the Empire, or that taking them over would be “easy.” The two factions did fight in Hapan border skirmishes, as Imperial forces were sent in a few times to quell them, but they always ended in Imperial defeat and sometimes even the theft of Star Destroyers by the Consortium.
Given that information, the Hapans, while a threat, did still keep to themselves, so it makes sense that Palpatine didn’t make an overt move to conquer them. Not with the considerable resources that would take while they were facing open Rebellion. The Hapans were a problem the Empire could afford to deal with when it was more convenient.
With one swift visit to your twitter to make sure you're not ignoring this shit, you have a new sub. Consider using your platform to make a video addressing what happened. Very important to hear as many voices of reason as possible
I’ve wondered for a while what the CSA’s view of the Separatists was.
#askeck How did the dueling prowess of Clone Wars Era Jedi compare to that of Jedi in the Old Republic? I was wondering because I often hear of Jedi like Mace being among the best the order ever produced, which always confuses me, since there would have been more consistent life-or-death lightsaber battles back then with which Jedi could hone their skills, whereas Clone Wars era Jedi would h as ve had little experience except against blaster-wielders or sparring opponents (at least until the outbreak of the war).
I think Hutt Space had a unique form of government and was not very centralized. Toydaria was within Hutt Space but was able to maintain some level of self determination having its own monarchy!
Basically all the places the empire looked at and just went “fuck it I can’t be bothered, I don’t have time for this shit”
Can we get a some old Republic videos. Perhaps emperor vitiate?
What game is that at 09:30 ?
Wonder if Hapans show up in Andor ?
Even the empire couldn't control everything.
The hurts gon live forever
damn the hapans are badass. their like the star wars equivalent to abyssinian empire.
I always thought of them as the Swiss of the Star Wars Universe.
@@luis_zuniga nah swiss are way too neutral. Abyssinian empire sounds more accuarate since not only do they maintain independence but also were quite well militarized for an african nation.
Head canon The CSA definitely covered up the existence of indigenous species to avoid having to treat them well, probably enslaved or genocided them.
#Askeck can you discuss the difference in the roles that senators played in the Republic, Empire and New Republic
I'm nearly finished with the NJO series and was wondering where the Hell was the Empire of the hand during that time?
Attempting to find the other hand.
That was one thing that bothered me about that series, though to be fair, they wouldn't have made much of a difference.
#AskEck how would you command the Battle of Hoth from the Imperial and Rebel side
The CSA…?
*dixieland plays*
What's the lost tribe of the sith?
*cough* The Tapani Expanse and the League of Freeworlds. *cough*
#AskEck Did the Hutts have any important or just any role at all in the Yuuzhan Vong war?