This clip is "MONEY"!! The best explanation I have ever seen of the upper body action, I have watched ALOT of videos talking about it. Well done, guys!!!
U guys never put out a bad video....so look forward to the next one....I have read golf machine in its entirety 3 times and had countless lessons and nobody understands the game like u guys...I recommend u to everybody i play with...thanks
What a super clip, thank you. I’m a cat 1 player with a very inconsistent long game. After years playing I only just learned that all my inconsistency and left pulls is because of how I rotate my shoulders and maintaining the shoulder plane through shots....game changer! Great advice in your clip
Almost every time I watch one of your videos, I'm either getting an "aha" moment or I'm getting a concept that I've been doing confirmed by what you're saying. Another top drawer video, boys.
its just the way to think about it and putting that into words.. i took 3 videos on yours out to the range last week. grip, lead arm, and turning. man things just finally clicked.. after that i understood the hand, wrist and club face connection which then allowed me to work the ball a little easier without having to manipulate the stance as much.. felt so good and solid..
I don’t remember this one from a year ago but I’m glad I ran into it as the eureka moment for me was the shoulder bump comment. This is just the reference I have been looking for to create the proper delay and downward motion required for a powerful effortless golf swing. Can’t wait to implement the thought at practice later today. It should get me to where I need to be without thinking too much about it; especially with driver. Great stuff as usual guys and thanks!
I wish I could like this video more than just once. I've been struggling with right shoulder especially. The tee-ball analogy is so simple, yet effective. I can't wait to put this into practice next session. Thank you guys! Always great work. ⛳
Hi there... First off many thanks for the videos you post. As a beginning golfer they have helped me immensley. I was able to profit very much from your tips and explanations. The quality of information in your videos is great. I also watch other golf videos and as a simple viewer I have noticed a difference from your videos to the others. It may be that you want this effect. I just thought I might mention it. When you are discussing the topics I miss you "talking to the camera" or to the viewers. It feels more like a discussion between the two of you. It is my impression that more interaction with the camera would help the presentation of the great tips and information you are presenting. I'm looking forward to more videos and once again Thank you for your work. Best Regards Jack
Best explanation/video out there. Perfection!!! Many backswing shifters I see get a little weirded out because at the top (when done right) they feel they are "leaning left" at the top. Once they embrace this its amazing how solid and consistent they start hitting it. Keep up the great work guys.
I haven’t seen all of your videos. But with all the golf instructors on RUclips I would like to see you guys put in practice what you preach. And if you can’t break 80 then...
The drill where you slap your left hand is quite good. I tried it this weekend with my son and he got a feeling for striking is irons properly. He had a lot of fun on the course because of it.
I've been playing golf for 20 years and my swing has been getting off the rails a bit. This is an absolute key to getting back on track. You guys are the best.👍
Please do the shoulder video! I have bad rotator cuffs and poor posture from office life - my shoulders were drooped forward which destroyed my consistency. I finally figured out how to set my shoulders in their socket and hold them rearward, made a world of difference. I’m sure others would benefit given the bad posture epidemic.
You guys mention keeping the shoulders down in the socket during the backswing. Did you ever make a video describing this? It’s truly a fascinating and new subject to me! Thank you for your awesome videos!
@@AthleticMotionGolf 👍 and it'd be great if you did some more in depth on the shoulders stayingng packed idea, and the real mind blower, that the shoulders are square but very tilted at impact!
Good stuff guys, I saw a lot of Stack and Tilt swing method in this video. Which I think is a good thing. S&T is a good swing model that has gotten a bad rep.
This is clearly a pretty hard concept to explain on video but it's critical. I hadn't considered the tee ball drill but I'll build one to test that i'm still doing it right. Thanks guys!
Thanks guys I’m a 9.3 index. And sometimes I would shoot in the 70’s but mostly low 80’s. My problem was that I was a victim of the point your shoulder at the ball routine. And you guys said not to do that and now I realize that I can actually point up to 4 ft. I have been going out to about a foot and a half. Wow everything lines up. Thanks so much. I couldn’t figure out what I was doing wrong.
As I build the exercises especially for senior golfers this with a possible slight adjustment for back foot position and possible slight sway only using this one hand swing drill but also actually thinking of a feel of the back hounded pulling you back is important. I will be referring to links of examples for this hip and shoulder turn dimension and referring to yours amongst others.
Thank you for this awesome posting. It clarifies what positions I should be at the top of the back swing. Shoulder level pointing about 4-6 inches off target line, lead arm pointing 1-2 inches off target line, trail upper arm parallel to the ground. Have to ingrain this position and hoping for a pure iron impact.
thanks for the solid content as always guys. Can you do a Gears session on what happens to the lead arm and shoulder in the takeaway and backswing. Whats really happening with shoulder/arm rotation....if any
this move has really helped me with my driving. the feeling I have is just the right should going up, which in turn moves my left shoulder down. this is exactly what my instructor taught me. just haven't quite nailed it with my irons like I have with my driver.
Ooh..I just had an aha moment about at 13:40 and I think people need to understand this, as I didn't before. To have the OPEN chest shoulders, it needs to be understood it's NOT so much open LEFT..but more OPEN FORWARD. Am I correct? More forward, but not too up, and not too left either..or you stay in flexion..same with too up but reverse..lol. I think the whole open concept is completely misunderstood, now it makes a ton more sense. Especially with the ironman drill and the emphasis on getting back down in flexion without fear of head drop..Thanks guys.
the issue with pointing the stick to the ball is that its pretty much dictated by where in the upper body you place it. im turning and the stick is at shoulder height the stick is pointing in front of the ball 1foot, then i do the same motion but the stick around elbow height then the stick is pointing to the ball. i like what you said that its a myth when it comes that it has to point at the ball. you guys are truly the best.
Wow i watched tus a year ago. And perty much missed every important point you guys are making. Especially the downswing and late right shoulder side bend. Great job, guys. Including drills
Hey guys, At the 7:30 mark Mike talks about these shoulder joints and how tension or getting them out of the joint is a no no….I was wondering if you have any additional content on this?? I’ve been trying to feel this with my driver and it feels way better but I do tend to still miss it a bit right. Love the videos!
To clarify, when you talk about forward bend between 40-50 degrees, is that measured from the vertical or horizontal? BTW, love my Randy Myers stretch pole! Been using one for over a decade!
In your other video about shoulder planes you guys said you "don't add anything, you don't take anything away." This was in regards to lead side bend/tilt. In this video you mention adding tilt as you turn. I get that shoulders pointing at the ball is too much (you did say that in both videos), but which is it? Do we add tilt as we turn as stated in this video or do we just feel like we turn flat like when we standing straight up (as you demoed in other video), or is it like this video where when you stood up after turning with tilt and you clearly where tilting back toward the target (4:42 mark)?
@@ChristopherGrier we’re describing the same motion differently in videos that are 5 years apart. You want to know turn your shoulders ~90 around your spine which I believe you’ll find in both videos.
Top shelf video guys thank you so much for posting on my way to pined comment to see impact video I'm looking for a video showing how club Head is supposed to come into the ball not only for compresión but also more room for error as far as far thin etc is there such a thing
You guys just confirmed my suspicion that golf is just like baseball. Yogi Berra said it best: It's 90 percent physical and the other half is mental. Thanks for another great video.
I've dealt with early extension and casting most of my life. I've always has issues in the downswing transition which that first movement regarding the slightly left lateral movement, opening that left knee, and slightly increasing flex in the knees on the downswing. You guys said something that gave me a lightbulb. You referenced almost a slight left crunch (very slight) to help drive the left knee down, and around. I started thinking of a visual que. I imagine someone standing right up against my left side and I need to give them a shove using just my left shoulder and left hip. if I just leaned left or turned my left shoulder, it would move them but there wouldn't be much force behind it. Instead, if i think about the most subtle and powerful way to shove them, it would be like fingerprint rolling my back, VERY similar to the feeling you guys talk about with fingerprint rolling the buttocks. If I finger print roll my right side of my back to my left side of my back and wanting to give this person a 'shove', I'd have to plant my left leg a bit into the ground, do the back roll, and allow myself to lean to the left slightly. This move only lasts till my hips and shoulders are parallel to my line. This is just the swing thought that is in my head in order to implant that concept....hopefully it makes sense.
Hello should we FEEL like we have a little reverse pivot at the top of the backswing with weight on the inside of our fight foot to make sure we are not still in forward bend
This is an awesome video. I see what I do that causes me to hit fat and/or stay back too long. By focusing on the chest (Iron Man move), my ball striking improved instantly. With driver, does chest stay down as much? Should the center of chest always stay behind the ball with woods or driver off the tee?
Greta Video. My problem is when I start with the lead shoulder going down I reverse pivot, I'm having a hard time getting the lead shoulder down but still shifting my weight to the right and getting behind the ball.
I’ve taken a few lessons from Pro at our country club. He literally asked me why I’m not shooting low 70’s. That’s just after a couple of lessons. He took me out on course and played for holes. 3 birdies and an eagle. He left me with this question to ponder...I reckon. I’m 16 handicap and honestly, I should be shooting low to mid 70’s. But I think I allow my brain to interfere with my game and swing when I’m not worried about winning. Can you perhaps be able to give us some tips on how to mediate this?
I would have you play 5-10 rounds where you are trying to shoot your best score charting each shot after each round. You will see a trend of why you aren't scoring better than you think you should. That's where to put your effort. You have an idea, but I don't think you know why yet.
The comments above are good. I would also add that you need to play close attention to the nature and direction of your misses when you are feeling the heat. A big part of shooting mid-70's golf is being able to keep your tee shots playable when you are under the gun. If you are blowing 3-5 tee shots out of play per round, then you are going to struggle breaking 80. You may need to exaggerate some moves to avoid hitting it out of play under pressure.
One thing here that shouldve been mentioned, since I see so many golfers pushing their left hip closer to the ball instead of letting their right hip move back like the pros do. The first drill, the old school drill, actually encourages that move if you dont know hot to move the pelvis correctly. I know Shaun and Mike knows this, Im just pointing out an important factor in this sequence.
Do you think the head movement of Bernard Langer is wrong. He tends to have his stay way back through the shot. He moves off the ball and then never moves forward with his head? Seems like a swing that has won for a long time. That being said thanks for the video. I think I found a couple of things that will help our crew.
Is Gears system able to measure scapula retraction/protraction/depression/elevation? I think that would be awesome information to have. If not, maybe a video discussing it would be of tremendous value. I assume you prefer them to stay depressed throughout the swing with right scapula retraction in backswing, and left scapula retraction on follow through. BTW, total fail on pronouncing Monte's name! Ha!
I thought he would've changed his name by now😂 The info is captured on some of those parameters, but they do not yet have it displayed in the software. We're hoping that happens in the next major update. And yeah, I think we should def do a video on it. Poor shoulder movement is rampant in the am ranks and it's usually just from a lack of awareness. Yes, we like depressed with some trailside retraction followed by lead retraction👍
@@AthleticMotionGolf You should suggest the name change to him! One last question, at the top of backswing you guys typically measure just over 90 degrees shoulder rotation for your pros...but what is the average torso rotation? Thanks again, and keep up the great content!
@@dukecienda2654 Would have to pull up all the data, but at impact the difference is in the ball park of +/- 20º. IIRC I don't think it's similar to that at the top, but don't quote me on that.
I'd like to know yalls thoughts on Shawn Clement, wisdom of golf channel. He's very popular, but has the strangest swing, backsw, and overall philosophy on golf weird as hell. May b wrong. Please let me know you're thought
Interesting. . . I’m more of the opinion that the great ball strikers of the past exhibited these same traits (left tilt, width, etc.). Btw, Stack n Wilt is dead. . .just ask Charlie Wi and Aaron Baddeley. 😂
@@dominicxiong4901 Alex Cejka just won 2 majors on the seniors tour..so I do not know what you are talking about.. Plus these guys are advocating for it..it's just fact
Btw..the stack and tilt guys analyze the swings of pro golfers and came up with the same thing these guys have..only 15 years before.. Theses guys are taking the explaining to the next level
"in the backswing your right side is stretching and getting longer, and in the downswing your left side is stretching and getting longer" This taught talks a lot to me, brilliant!
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HI, Can you please link the video which refers to the Shoulder movement you refer to at the 7:47 mark thank you
@@rhpunchihewa it’s a few videos back if you go on our RUclips and look for shoulder videos
This clip is "MONEY"!!
The best explanation I have ever seen of the upper body action, I have watched ALOT of videos talking about it.
Well done, guys!!!
Rarely comment, if ever. I appreciate your videos so much. You are 1%. Thank you, for what you do.
thank you, Alex. And thanks for watching (and now commenting😊)
U guys never put out a bad video....so look forward to the next one....I have read golf machine in its entirety 3 times and had countless lessons and nobody understands the game like u guys...I recommend u to everybody i play with...thanks
That's too much pressure, Michael😄
Thank you for all the support and shares!
What a super clip, thank you. I’m a cat 1 player with a very inconsistent long game. After years playing I only just learned that all my inconsistency and left pulls is because of how I rotate my shoulders and maintaining the shoulder plane through shots....game changer! Great advice in your clip
I've definitely messed up my shoulder by doing what you talk about at around @7:30. Glad to hear you talking about it. I thought I was the only one.
This was such a detailed video but so important to dispel such wrong information over the years. Thank you so very much.
We think the right concepts go a long way, Jill😊
This may be the best training on the upper body I have received in over 20 plus years. Thanks guys!!
Excellent guys. Lower body video first - upper body video second - lots of practice. Thanks Shaun and Mike for all you do for us ams.
Almost every time I watch one of your videos, I'm either getting an "aha" moment or I'm getting a concept that I've been doing confirmed by what you're saying. Another top drawer video, boys.
That should scare you if we're on the same wavelength😂
Same . Great job breaking it down and supporting it with numbers(fact) not opinions.
@@anthonyposa9880 thanks bud, we try to remove the guessing😊
its just the way to think about it and putting that into words.. i took 3 videos on yours out to the range last week. grip, lead arm, and turning. man things just finally clicked.. after that i understood the hand, wrist and club face connection which then allowed me to work the ball a little easier without having to manipulate the stance as much.. felt so good and solid..
I don’t remember this one from a year ago but I’m glad I ran into it as the eureka moment for me was the shoulder bump comment. This is just the reference I have been looking for to create the proper delay and downward motion required for a powerful effortless golf swing. Can’t wait to implement the thought at practice later today. It should get me to where I need to be without thinking too much about it; especially with driver. Great stuff as usual guys and thanks!
I wish I could like this video more than just once.
I've been struggling with right shoulder especially. The tee-ball analogy is so simple, yet effective. I can't wait to put this into practice next session.
Thank you guys! Always great work. ⛳
Love it👊🤓
This may be your best ever video!!!
Hi there...
First off many thanks for the videos you post. As a beginning golfer they have helped me immensley. I was able to profit very much from your tips and explanations. The quality of information in your videos is great. I also watch other golf videos and as a simple viewer I have noticed a difference from your videos to the others. It may be that you want this effect. I just thought I might mention it. When you are discussing the topics I miss you "talking to the camera" or to the viewers. It feels more like a discussion between the two of you. It is my impression that more interaction with the camera would help the presentation of the great tips and information you are presenting.
I'm looking forward to more videos and once again Thank you for your work.
Best Regards
Jack
These videos together with the avatar are the best instruction videos I have seen.
Wow thanks, John!🙏
Another great video, you teach the real movements not some teachers personnel interpretation
Thanks again
Best explanation/video out there. Perfection!!! Many backswing shifters I see get a little weirded out because at the top (when done right) they feel they are "leaning left" at the top. Once they embrace this its amazing how solid and consistent they start hitting it. Keep up the great work guys.
So true about the "weirded out" thing, lol. Thanks for the kind words, pro🙏
Best clip I’ve seen in years!!
I haven’t seen all of your videos. But with all the golf instructors on RUclips I would like to see you guys put in practice what you preach. And if you can’t break 80 then...
The drill where you slap your left hand is quite good. I tried it this weekend with my son and he got a feeling for striking is irons properly. He had a lot of fun on the course because of it.
I've been playing golf for 20 years and my swing has been getting off the rails a bit. This is an absolute key to getting back on track. You guys are the best.👍
Thanks!!!
Please do the shoulder video! I have bad rotator cuffs and poor posture from office life - my shoulders were drooped forward which destroyed my consistency.
I finally figured out how to set my shoulders in their socket and hold them rearward, made a world of difference.
I’m sure others would benefit given the bad posture epidemic.
We definitely plan to👍
Now that’s a lesson! Well done gentlemen!
Thanks bud!
You guys mention keeping the shoulders down in the socket during the backswing. Did you ever make a video describing this? It’s truly a fascinating and new subject to me!
Thank you for your awesome videos!
Best video on tilts on the internet!
Are there only 2 out there?😊
Thank you brother!💯
@@AthleticMotionGolf 👍 and it'd be great if you did some more in depth on the shoulders stayingng packed idea, and the real mind blower, that the shoulders are square but very tilted at impact!
@@555Trout We can definitely do that next time we have Key Young visit us👍
Right side bend in transition is where I feel like I tend to struggle. Excellent video instruction.
Thanks for this, looking forward to trying at range. Plus, any lesson with a Caddyshack reference is great is a bonus! 🤣 thanks guys!
Good stuff guys, I saw a lot of Stack and Tilt swing method in this video. Which I think is a good thing. S&T is a good swing model that has gotten a bad rep.
They have definitely been on the 3D movements of the spine for a while. We agree with them that a lot of forward bend at the top isn't a good thing👍
This is clearly a pretty hard concept to explain on video but it's critical. I hadn't considered the tee ball drill but I'll build one to test that i'm still doing it right. Thanks guys!
Master class in instruction. Fantastic teaching. Thank you so much.
Thanks guys I’m a 9.3 index. And sometimes I would shoot in the 70’s but mostly low 80’s. My problem was that I was a victim of the point your shoulder at the ball routine. And you guys said not to do that and now I realize that I can actually point up to 4 ft. I have been going out to about a foot and a half. Wow everything lines up. Thanks so much. I couldn’t figure out what I was doing wrong.
As I build the exercises especially for senior golfers this with a possible slight adjustment for back foot position and possible slight sway only using this one hand swing drill but also actually thinking of a feel of the back hounded pulling you back is important. I will be referring to links of examples for this hip and shoulder turn dimension and referring to yours amongst others.
Great team work, you guys dovetail so well. Excellent info. Thanks Loads.
Thank you for this awesome posting. It clarifies what positions I should be at the top of the back swing. Shoulder level pointing about 4-6 inches off target line, lead arm pointing 1-2 inches off target line, trail upper arm parallel to the ground. Have to ingrain this position and hoping for a pure iron impact.
Glad it helped👊
Probably the best instruction video i have ever seen! Great stuff! Cudos.
Wow, thanks Dag!👊
I'll 2nd that that drill they show in free video is cool too I have high hopes when I get to try thanks again guys
8:12 ‘that thing’ is the monster mash 😂 love the content as always 💪💪
😊
Awesome stuff. I’m heading to the range.
thanks for the solid content as always guys. Can you do a Gears session on what happens to the lead arm and shoulder in the takeaway and backswing. Whats really happening with shoulder/arm rotation....if any
this move has really helped me with my driving. the feeling I have is just the right should going up, which in turn moves my left shoulder down. this is exactly what my instructor taught me. just haven't quite nailed it with my irons like I have with my driver.
Love this, very helpful! Thanks
A great video, clear and concise, love the the hand clap drill.
Thanks 👍
You guys are fantastic!!!!
Your presentations are excellent. Well done!
Ooh..I just had an aha moment about at 13:40 and I think people need to understand this, as I didn't before. To have the OPEN chest shoulders, it needs to be understood it's NOT so much open LEFT..but more OPEN FORWARD. Am I correct? More forward, but not too up, and not too left either..or you stay in flexion..same with too up but reverse..lol. I think the whole open concept is completely misunderstood, now it makes a ton more sense. Especially with the ironman drill and the emphasis on getting back down in flexion without fear of head drop..Thanks guys.
the issue with pointing the stick to the ball is that its pretty much dictated by where in the upper body you place it. im turning and the stick is at shoulder height the stick is pointing in front of the ball 1foot, then i do the same motion but the stick around elbow height then the stick is pointing to the ball. i like what you said that its a myth when it comes that it has to point at the ball. you guys are truly the best.
Very very good video! great presentation ..
Great content guys, can you post the link to the lower body video that you kept referring to? Thanks
No. It hasn't been released yet😄 They got scheduled out of order, but it will be up soon.
Wow i watched tus a year ago. And perty much missed every important point you guys are making. Especially the downswing and late right shoulder side bend. Great job, guys. Including drills
Another superb video with excellent instruction!
I find the "crunch" mentioned at start of the down swing becomes the natural thing to do from a good stacked position at the top.
Hey guys,
At the 7:30 mark Mike talks about these shoulder joints and how tension or getting them out of the joint is a no no….I was wondering if you have any additional content on this?? I’ve been trying to feel this with my driver and it feels way better but I do tend to still miss it a bit right.
Love the videos!
Thanks, and we're glad it's helping! Have you had the chance to see our latest video on Shoulder Rotation? ruclips.net/video/hjyGU-9bgf8/видео.html
Awesome video fellas. Can you link the lower body video?
We uploaded them out of order, so just pretend we said in the upcoming lower body video😊
another great video! thanks guys.
great info guys, thnx.
To clarify, when you talk about forward bend between 40-50 degrees, is that measured from the vertical or horizontal? BTW, love my Randy Myers stretch pole! Been using one for over a decade!
Great stuff, thanks, !!
Is there a video about shoulder socket and how to fix it
Love the insightful details. Thank you.
Masterclass instruction... BOFFO!
Wow I feel old. Had to google BOFFO😂 Thanks, Mike🙏💯
You mentioned going back and watching the perfect lower body swing video. Can you please provide a link?
The videos got out of sequence when we uploaded, it'll be out soon👍
Athletic Motion Golf is the follow up video still coming? Thanks!
@@lmartise yessir it is👍
Great video
In your other video about shoulder planes you guys said you "don't add anything, you don't take anything away." This was in regards to lead side bend/tilt. In this video you mention adding tilt as you turn. I get that shoulders pointing at the ball is too much (you did say that in both videos), but which is it? Do we add tilt as we turn as stated in this video or do we just feel like we turn flat like when we standing straight up (as you demoed in other video), or is it like this video where when you stood up after turning with tilt and you clearly where tilting back toward the target (4:42 mark)?
@@ChristopherGrier we’re describing the same motion differently in videos that are 5 years apart. You want to know turn your shoulders ~90 around your spine which I believe you’ll find in both videos.
Top shelf video guys thank you so much for posting on my way to pined comment to see impact video I'm looking for a video showing how club Head is supposed to come into the ball not only for compresión but also more room for error as far as far thin etc is there such a thing
This is very interesting, are you saying that you don’t start with a hip shift forward before the arms swing? Thanks
Correct, starting the downswing with a hip shift is a bad idea😬
You guys just confirmed my suspicion that golf is just like baseball.
Yogi Berra said it best:
It's 90 percent physical and the other half is mental.
Thanks for another great video.
I've dealt with early extension and casting most of my life. I've always has issues in the downswing transition which that first movement regarding the slightly left lateral movement, opening that left knee, and slightly increasing flex in the knees on the downswing. You guys said something that gave me a lightbulb. You referenced almost a slight left crunch (very slight) to help drive the left knee down, and around. I started thinking of a visual que. I imagine someone standing right up against my left side and I need to give them a shove using just my left shoulder and left hip. if I just leaned left or turned my left shoulder, it would move them but there wouldn't be much force behind it. Instead, if i think about the most subtle and powerful way to shove them, it would be like fingerprint rolling my back, VERY similar to the feeling you guys talk about with fingerprint rolling the buttocks. If I finger print roll my right side of my back to my left side of my back and wanting to give this person a 'shove', I'd have to plant my left leg a bit into the ground, do the back roll, and allow myself to lean to the left slightly. This move only lasts till my hips and shoulders are parallel to my line. This is just the swing thought that is in my head in order to implant that concept....hopefully it makes sense.
Hello should we FEEL like we have a little reverse pivot at the top of the backswing with weight on the inside of our fight foot to make sure we are not still in forward bend
This is an awesome video. I see what I do that causes me to hit fat and/or stay back too long. By focusing on the chest (Iron Man move), my ball striking improved instantly. With driver, does chest stay down as much? Should the center of chest always stay behind the ball with woods or driver off the tee?
Its points down then comes back up (direction or ironman light)
Best instruction on the internet continues ♥️🙏🏻
Greta Video. My problem is when I start with the lead shoulder going down I reverse pivot, I'm having a hard time getting the lead shoulder down but still shifting my weight to the right and getting behind the ball.
With a club across my chest like at 4:00 my rotation is good but it breaks down when I have arms extended with a club in my hands. 😢
How much of the lateral shift is due the crunch?
The crunch is a vertical movement, so technically zero. But there is lateral movement and rotation happening at the same time.
I’ve taken a few lessons from Pro at our country club. He literally asked me why I’m not shooting low 70’s. That’s just after a couple of lessons. He took me out on course and played for holes. 3 birdies and an eagle. He left me with this question to ponder...I reckon. I’m 16 handicap and honestly, I should be shooting low to mid 70’s. But I think I allow my brain to interfere with my game and swing when I’m not worried about winning.
Can you perhaps be able to give us some tips on how to mediate this?
I would have you play 5-10 rounds where you are trying to shoot your best score charting each shot after each round. You will see a trend of why you aren't scoring better than you think you should. That's where to put your effort. You have an idea, but I don't think you know why yet.
The comments above are good. I would also add that you need to play close attention to the nature and direction of your misses when you are feeling the heat. A big part of shooting mid-70's golf is being able to keep your tee shots playable when you are under the gun. If you are blowing 3-5 tee shots out of play per round, then you are going to struggle breaking 80. You may need to exaggerate some moves to avoid hitting it out of play under pressure.
hi, in the Superman drill, If i for ex have a laser light in the chestm should it point on the target line or inside or outside target line....
At what point in the swing should the front crunch take place the start of the down swing give us more details thanks
STEVE GRENAGLE yes, it’s a result of the forward bend being put back in on the downswing as the body rotates👍
Absolutely
I could not find your Lower Body Movement video?
Not out yet, Ted😊 We uploaded them in the wrong order, but it will be out soon👍
One thing here that shouldve been mentioned, since I see so many golfers pushing their left hip closer to the ball instead of letting their right hip move back like the pros do. The first drill, the old school drill, actually encourages that move if you dont know hot to move the pelvis correctly. I know Shaun and Mike knows this, Im just pointing out an important factor in this sequence.
Just found out why I am damaging my shoulders -thought it was from repeatedly hitting the turf. Its from scrunching up at the top. saved my game.
neutral setup on driver?
Is there a drill book you produce?
Hmm maybe we should. Would you want a physical book or an ebook if we did one ?
@@AthleticMotionGolf an ebook would be cheaper for all !
@@AthleticMotionGolf a drill book we can take to the gym with a chapter for old farts 🥴
I'm a ben hogan guy do you believe the hip and shoulders lesson support what he did ....thanks 4 everything
club / mike drop 14:36
My head hurts....😂😂😂
whenever I try to add tilt into my swing I take the club back dead shut, any advice to help with that?
Very similar to Stack and Tilt golf swing.
How can your shoulders lag & chest be square on the downswing when the club is about parallel to the ground ? Seems anatomically impossible to me.
Do you think the head movement of Bernard Langer is wrong. He tends to have his stay way back through the shot. He moves off the ball and then never moves forward with his head? Seems like a swing that has won for a long time. That being said thanks for the video. I think I found a couple of things that will help our crew.
3:20 Backswing & Takeaway
Is Gears system able to measure scapula retraction/protraction/depression/elevation? I think that would be awesome information to have. If not, maybe a video discussing it would be of tremendous value. I assume you prefer them to stay depressed throughout the swing with right scapula retraction in backswing, and left scapula retraction on follow through. BTW, total fail on pronouncing Monte's name! Ha!
I thought he would've changed his name by now😂
The info is captured on some of those parameters, but they do not yet have it displayed in the software. We're hoping that happens in the next major update.
And yeah, I think we should def do a video on it. Poor shoulder movement is rampant in the am ranks and it's usually just from a lack of awareness.
Yes, we like depressed with some trailside retraction followed by lead retraction👍
@@AthleticMotionGolf You should suggest the name change to him! One last question, at the top of backswing you guys typically measure just over 90 degrees shoulder rotation for your pros...but what is the average torso rotation? Thanks again, and keep up the great content!
@@dukecienda2654 Would have to pull up all the data, but at impact the difference is in the ball park of +/- 20º. IIRC I don't think it's similar to that at the top, but don't quote me on that.
can this be taught or is it just a natural Got It, or ya dont??
I'd like to know yalls thoughts on Shawn Clement, wisdom of golf channel. He's very popular, but has the strangest swing, backsw, and overall philosophy on golf weird as hell. May b wrong. Please let me know you're thought
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Wow another thing, so the head drop in the follow through is as a result of the left shoulder crunch and not squatting down at the knees 💡🤭
Correct again. We're going to do a video on this soon, but the pelvis lowers VERY LITTLE in the downswing, way less than an inch.
When is this video coming out?
Guys, this seems exclusive to iron shots. What about driver which most of us struggle with?
Very similar with driver...at impact the head is farther back with driver though
"Stack and Tilt" Andy Plumber and Mike Bennet proven right once again
Interesting. . . I’m more of the opinion that the great ball strikers of the past exhibited these same traits (left tilt, width, etc.). Btw, Stack n Wilt is dead. . .just ask Charlie Wi and Aaron Baddeley. 😂
@@dominicxiong4901 Alex Cejka just won 2 majors on the seniors tour..so I do not know what you are talking about..
Plus these guys are advocating for it..it's just fact
Btw..the stack and tilt guys analyze the swings of pro golfers and came up with the same thing these guys have..only 15 years before..
Theses guys are taking the explaining to the next level
"in the backswing your right side is stretching and getting longer, and in the downswing your left side is stretching and getting longer"
This taught talks a lot to me, brilliant!
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THIS IS NOT ROTATING. HE'S FLAPPING AROUND
I'm going to need some numbers. I'm not saying I don't believe what you're saying. I'm saying trust but verify.
Haha is there another channel that gives more numbers???