The Indoor Survival was definitely the winner on the capita lineup this season. It was thanks to you guys i even considered getting it and i'm so glad i did! I paired it with the Union Ultras and it's a killer combo. 6'1", 185, size 9,5 boots, stance 21" +12/-12, board size 156
Hi guys, I really want to thank you for making these reviews and particularly this one. I was looking for a new board after owning one for over 20 years and I decided to go with the Indoor Survival 158 wide. I had the K2 Zeppelin 164 b4 never got better then a decent beginner. I just came back from 4 days on the mountains with the new board and maann, this is a huuuge difference. I was able to rip it from the first try, it switches from hill to tow with such ease and holds edge unbelievable. Even saved my ass a few times only bcs I got to lazy. Thanks again, keep doing the good videos.
I have the 2024 BSOD and love it. I wanted to mix up my quiver for days I dont want to hard charge. I could do more park runs but still something capable of all mountain and the occasional send it. I think the Indoor Survival fits the bill here and just ordered the 2025.
thank god i found this review, was on the fence about the board vs DOA. Great heads up on 158 vs 158W. Def gonna have to go 158w with my size boot - thanks for this!
Hey guys, I've been looking at the Yes Basic Uninc (156W - I'm 165-170lbs and 10US) for park (big, med, and small jump lines + jibbing) and all mountain riding (not much pow in Australia though). However for the same price, I can grab an Indoor Survival (156). From your reviews, both sound like great boards, and both would be a playful decks all around the mountain, yet still be great for all of the park. Which board do you guys reckon is better? Should I stick with Uninc or go with the Indoor Survival?
Picked one of these up after riding a Burton Dom for the last 15 years, thanks for all the great info on the Indoor! Hopefully the transition to the new board will go smoothly!
Nice guys. You mentioned the Yes Standard Uninc, I have one still in the plastic and I’m trying to decide if I want to keep it or not. Are you going to put out a review on that board?
Great board! If it fits your specs and ability level I would for sure keep this. What is your boot size, weight, height and ability level? Also what board did it replace and what did you like/not like about it?
@@thegoodridesnow size 9 vans infuse, 5;11" 195lbs (all muscle, just like you and Davey). High intermediate low advanced, hard to say tbh. Bought it to round out a quiver of my Warpig for my party board my Excavator which is my free ride board. Both of those boards are fantastic. Want this one to practice switch and try and look cool on side hits.
That will work. Its a little wide for size 9's but you like and ride some pretty wide boards now so you will be totally fine. Tear the wrapper off and go ride it! Great call for what u wanna do.
I really like this board, do you think it could fit me as an low-intermediary rider mainly doing blue/reds ? Im improving fast but i dont do powder or park at all.
I would probably pass. This board will be a lot more fun later if you take the time to get your skills down on something more forgiving like the Outerspace Living or Mercury.
I take it you liked this more than the DOA? Was it the pop and trad camber? Can't decide between the two, feels like I'm splitting hairs but I've been riding camber boards since 2004 so I'm leaning Indoor.
Yes I did but it's all down to personal preference. For me the pop was the same between the two. What it came down to me was the turning experience I got from the Indoor. It just felt better than the DOA. Both are great boards and it just comes down to what calls to you more. So if you are used to full camber I'd probably go with the Indoor.
During the video you mentioned about detuning a bit for the indoor survival. May I ask why part of the board are you referring to? The flat area? Or the tip where the camber starts?
Yeah, just detune near the end of the sidecut into the nose/tail so it doesn't catch an edge as easily and butter easier. It's something most of us used to do back in the day when boards were full camber. You only need to take a pass or two with a file at a very mellow angle when on the effective edge.
Hi good ride, Im a high end intermediate, 5'9, 143, and size 11 boots. Was wondering if you think the 2025 model of the indoor survival would be a good fit for me. I was looking into the huck knife, or the doa, but want something more all mountain. I am willing to put n the work to progress on a catchier, more advanced board. Was wondering your thoughts, thanks.
Maybe but all the boards on your list are pretty catchy/technical for an intermediate. Not sure where you want to ride this and the other boards you mentioned. Do you plan on riding a lot in the park and want to ride Switch a lot? You also might want to hit me here If you want to do this right and give me the info I need to help you much better. shop.thegoodride.com/merchandise/gear-advice/
Rally Cat is softer, has better grip and is close to the IS pop. It also sets much further back in powder so you get easier float and a better turning experience with the lifted sides.
I want to make sure this board is not too advanced for me. I can bomb down hill and carve here in the Midwest no problem, still shaky riding switch though. I can hit any rail that is flush with the snow/lip but learning to jump onto rails, hit bigger rails and I’m hitting small-mediumish jumps. Would this be a good progressive board or too advanced ?
It's more on the technical/catchy side but i depends on what make/model/size/year board you are coming from now, what your boot size, weight and height is and how the old board works for you. If you want to get into it more, hit me here to give me the info I need to help you much better. shop.thegoodride.com/merchandise/gear-advice/
Would you recommend the Indoor Survival or the DOA for an intermediate rider wanting to ride all mountain and work on jumps and spins? Want something light with pop and ability to go decently fast. Or is there another board you would recommend?
No. I wouldn't recommend either for an intermediate. I would instead look at the Outerspace Living or SB Resort Twin that has a lot less camber and is much more forgiving. If you want to get into it more and do this right, hit me here to give me the info I need to help you much better. shop.thegoodride.com/merchandise/gear-advice/
@@thegoodridesnow help pls! my custom x broke down last season.. I love deep carving and this board was and great. The guy at the rent shop gave me a Burton beginner board with flat base and soft flex. I loved the playfulness/nimbleness and even carving felt good with the flat profile. I wanna learn freestyle carving like Ryan knapton but at medium speeds. Flat tricks ,butter, sidejumps stuff like this as well Ryan’s board is stiff as hell so now Iam confused to get the doa or the softer more forgiving outer space. also considering evil twin, evil twin plus Would love the have some input from you
Thanks for the review! I got the indoor survival and absolutely love it. Sold my burton custom, never Summer Proto slinger and bataleon disaster plus because the indoor has all the playfulness and pop I could wish. But how would you compare the indoor survival to the super doa?
Thanks for your take. We all liked the Indoor better because of the extra camber vs. the Camber to flat. It popped about the same, turned a little better and just matched up with our turning style of riding better. That being said the Super DOA is well liked by many and really shines for those that love an easy ollie or lapping kickers in the park. I would try to demo the Super DOA or DOA and bring your Indoor to compare to see what you like better as it's all personal preference.
@@thegoodridesnow thank you for the answer! It’s crazy that the indoor turned better, I thought the wider waist width is a disadvantage for a quick edge to edge
If you mean turn initiation then yeah DOA's are faster but the extra camber gives much better spring out of the turn vs less camber to more flat on the DOA's. The DOA's pop really well on an ollie though and are the same or a touch better there. Its just hard to beat almost full camber when it comes to the overall turning experience.
Just had my first couple rides on this board. I’m a mid-high intermediate coming from an Outerspace Living. Tough transition. Far less torsional flex, feels pretty catchy, and not friendly to skidded turns. Very poppy though which is great while carving and jumps. Do you think stone grinding away the structure would help with the catchy feeling? Contemplating the grind or even selling and getting something else.
That might help a little and so would de-tunning the edges near the end of the effective edge a bit but this is a mostly camber ride for advanced to expert riders. Hit me up here if you would like in depth advice on a board that better fits your ability level, where you ride, and your specs. thegoodride.com/snowboard-binding-and-boot-advice/
Its not ideal and it's a lot easier to catch an edge than many other boards out there. Go Outerspace living if you want something more forgiving or hit me up here to do this right and give me the info I need to help you much better. shop.thegoodride.com/merchandise/gear-advice/
@The Good Ride In regards to the Deathgrip slightly embellishing the W/W. Would I be better off going with the 158 or 158wide with 10.5 Vans Infuse and Large Strata bindings? Thank you very much.
I think it will work at 158 as it's pretty wide over the inserts. To be sure I would check timecode 3:10 where there are measurements of the 158's width over the inserts and compare it to the footprint of your Large Strata's at the stance angles you use to make sure there is no binding overhang. The wide might feel pretty wide for 10.5's but that could work too if you like a little wider board for your boot size.
Hi good ride, you gave advice to me earlier, but you didnt recommend the indoor survival for an all rounder intermediate going to advanced, in the park and on groomers, would you still recommend it over the yes basic uninc? i am size 7.5 boot and will get around size 152.
Yeah I wouldn't recommend this for a intermediate. If you hit me up here shop.thegoodride.com/merchandise/gear-advice/ then stick with the recommendations I gave you there. I put a lot of time and effort into those.
How do you think this compairs to the lib tech dynamo? I don't do a ton of park and am trying to improve my switch riding this season. Is the Dynamo bad for switch riding cause it's not a twin and not centered? Is the indoor survival too chattery at speed or on uneven snow when the runs get torn up by the end of the day? I mainly ride in the midwest, Wisconsin can get pretty iced up, and take one or two trips out west each year. Is the lib better cause of the magnetraction?
Two very different rides. Yeah if you want a twin for better switch/centered riding the Indoor could for sure work. It is more chattery than the Lib and the grip will be a bit less. Maybe not the best for mid-west riding. If you want some good board recommendations for where you ride hit me up here so I can do this right. shop.thegoodride.com/merchandise/gear-advice/
Thanks for the great review! Quick question regarding sizing. I’m 5’11”, 190-195lbs, size 9.5M boot union ultras, intermediate-advanced rider. Should I go for the 156 or 158? Really torn bc my big thing is stability hitting M-L kickers which makes me lean towards the 158, but I also don’t want to sacrifice maneuverability butters and spins. Last year I rode both a blossom 155, which was far too small, and an evil twin 157 which is the biggest board I’ve ever owned. What are your thoughts?
158 would be better for this board for your specs. Not sure if this is the board you want though if you want a shorter length. Hit me up here if you want to get into more detail. shop.thegoodride.com/merchandise/gear-advice/
I didn't get one. I don't think it will be that different if they just changed the stance location. Doesn't seem like much else changed except a slight tweak to the core. Would love to ride the new one though. I'll try to get my hands on one.
That is a tough question to answer here. It really depends on your specs, ability level etc that I don't have. If you size this correctly it will be very quick edge to edge and this was one of the poppiest boards we recently tried. If you want real advice hit me up here so I can help you properly. thegoodride.com/snowboard-binding-and-boot-advice/
hey man i’m thinking of getting the indoor survival 2025. Im thinking of getting a size 154. What you think? I weigh 150lb, height is 5 8 and a half, intermediate riding (i like to go fast and hit side jumps/freestyle. What size should i be aiming for?
@ my boot size is 10. this is a first snowboard purchase. I’ve always been renting. Last season i rented a k2 but i don’t know what model or size. I think it was an all mountain k2, it was pretty nice. I actually ordered the indoor survival 2025 size 152 but i felt it was too small for me so i returned it. Now im debating whether i made the right decision or not. I might go for the size 154, but i need to hear your opinion first
Need to know the actual board. If you are an intermediate, then it might not be a good call. Did it not feel catchy? So, boot size is the most important part of choosing a board and the 152 will feel super small with 10's unless you are only jibbing but you would be better off with a different board. I would consider 154 or 156 or possibly a different ride, but I would need to know more about you to help properly. If you want to get into it more, hit me here to give me the info I need to help you much better. shop.thegoodride.com/merchandise/gear-advice/
Night and day differences. Skate Banana is continuous rocker/much more forgiving and very loose between the feet and it feels softer on snow. It has more grip too with the MTX but auto spins in harder snow. The Capita IS is almost full camber, much more catchy but much more poppy, has a faster base and is much more stable underfoot.
ive got a Rome national from 2018-2019, looking for an upgrade something better in switch and a bit more playful/forgiving flex, and can lay a good carve, they have this in my local shop. wondering if this would be a good shout or if its just going to be too similar, looks an epic board. will be riding with malavitas would that be a good fit, I am size 12 boot and 105kg size recommendations?
This is a great board but it will not be as forgiving as the National. The camber profiles look similar but on snow It will have more pop and a little softer flex but it will feel a little more catchy and be less damp than the National. If that is ok the 161w should work with 12's.
@@thegoodridesnow yeah that sounds like it should be a great fit, is it easier to initiate a turn than the rome national?, im between the capita and the twin pig. I’m going to use the Rome for teach this winter. What would you recommend for something better in powder and ripping through trees if I was to have 3 boards?
It's hard to help based on the info given. I need to know a lot more to help you properly. Hit me up here if you want real advice. thegoodride.com/snowboard-binding-and-boot-advice/
Can’t decide between the Burton Custom and Capita indoor survival 😅 I really only like carving at speed, riding switch, hitting side hits, and jumping, Which fits the bill better? 6’2 size 11 boot breaking into advanced rider territory and looking to progress.
Weight? Need all three to even guess here on YT but if you want real advice hit me here. I take this seriously and truly want to help so I created this service. If you want to get into it more hit me here to give me the info I need to help you much better. shop.thegoodride.com/merchandise/gear-advice/
5"10, 165 lbs and size 9, would a 152 be too small for park and all mountain (resort) riding? Worried the 152 might be too soft but the 154 too stiff for me.
Nope 156 for mtn. 154 would be better for park but here is the thing. You haven't given me a lot of info about you to go on. Hit me here if you want more accurate/in depth advice that leads to a happy purchase. shop.thegoodride.com/merchandise/gear-advice/
Hey James - Did you guys get a chance to ride the 2023 Outsiders this year? If so is the Indoor Survival still your top Capita board in the V1 profile?
No we didn't but I'm sure it's still a pretty fun board. The Indoor and Outsiders are pretty different rides though so hard to compare the two. Indoor has a setback on sidecut and is stiffer. more of an all mountain to mountain freestyle ride. Outsiders is a softer true twin more for park to mountain freestyle riding.
@@thegoodridesnow Sorry for the confusion! I mean the Outsiders camber board with V1 profile, not the Outerspace Living, which I agree is a softer board than the Indoor. The Outsiders as I understand it is a 6 firmness, so stiffer than Indoor.
No confusion here. The Outsiders I tried a while back felt pretty soft. Softer than the Indoor does now. I was not accidentally referencing the Outerspace living. Maybe they stiffened up the Outsiders. Hope to get on it again. Still feel they are pretty different boards though.
Hello! Quick question. I was recently gifted this board, still in plastic, and am not sure if I should keep it as it may be too much for me? Last season I rode a 2021 Burton Custom 150 for half the season and a YES Basic 149. The custom was borrowed. I would consider myself a kinda low-mid intermediate rider, getting into deeper carving and getting into park stuff and more buttering. I typically ride down blues. When getting into park I was told by a lot of instructors that the basic isn't really a good platform to want to progress in park with. So, my question is if this board would be worth it to keep or should I swap it for something better suited to my skill level? For reference I am 5'7, 135lb, size 9.5 vans invader pro boots. Thanks! Also love the videos, big fan. You guys really go in depth to a level far greater than most.
That is a good fit for you spec wise and that is a great jump board. However, It's a little on the technical side and it will be easier to catch an edge with it. I learned on a lot worse back in the day but you have the opportunity to learn with less consequence so your choice.. You might actually like something like the Basic and Outerspace Living for park. The Basic 149 or 152 isn't great if you want to jib but it is a pretty solid board for hitting kickers/jumps. It is also better matched for your skill level. So is the 154 Outerspace Living.
@@thegoodridesnow Awesome! Thanks so much for the tips, I really appreciate it. I think that I will stick with the Basic for now maybe when I get some more technical skills branch out to a board better suited for what I decide to do, focus park or not. I will make sure to keep watching your vids for board reviews so I will know what to get down the line! Keep being awesome man :)
Yeah all are great boards in their own way. Jackpot is softer and has a lot more camber and the best edge hold but worst in pow. Agent is stiffer but has early rise before the nose/tail so it's actually more forgiving. Better in pow than the Jackpot. Both are great boards. If you want softer and more poppy but more unforgiving go Jackpot. If you want more forgiving and a little better on the mountain go Agent. Now if you want a flex similar to the Agent, a camber profile between the Jackpot and Agent (not that forgiving though), best pop of the three and a little more set back on board for more directional float on pow days go Indoor Survival.
Hi James, I'm considering between INDOOR and CUSTOM. Is the overall experience of the INDOOR even better than the BURTON CUSTOM? What are the pros and cons of INDOOR and CUSTOM compared to each other? Which one would be better for complex snow conditions (cruds, messy snow, icy)?
Both are great boards and both are pretty technical. I personally prefer the Indoor a little more just because it is a little more forgiving and more versatile as a one board quiver. I don't have to be on my game as much as the Custom but the Custom has more pop and drive out of a turn with that full camber.
Believe it or not but the vast majority of the customers ski in resorts and CAPITA does not classify the mercury as a resort board. Only 4 belong to this category the DOAs, the outer space and the new aeronaut. The great Outdoor survival is park and probably too centered stiff twin for resort grade powder as you mentioned. So there is still room to salami this side of the market, with the aeronaut they decided to kick the can far back into the 90'. Hopefully we won't have to wait for another 5 years for a more directional outdoor.
Reviews coming on Merc and Mega Merc soon. Hope to get on the Funslinger Westbound if it is staying around longer than one season and will reach out to NS.
They are pretty close when it comes to carving. I'd say more pop on an ollie/better spring out of the turn with the Indoor but more grip/more forgiivng/better uneven snow performance with the Greats. Hit me up here if you want in depth advice on which is actually right for you. shop.thegoodride.com/merchandise/gear-advice/
Hi James, if I ride the Nitro Team with no issues of catchy-ness, would this board be ‘less’ catchy for me compared to the Nitro Team? And between this and the Rome Warden, which board is more “advanced” and separately, between warden and this, which is more “catchy”? Thanks in advance!
The Indoor Survival was definitely the winner on the capita lineup this season. It was thanks to you guys i even considered getting it and i'm so glad i did! I paired it with the Union Ultras and it's a killer combo. 6'1", 185, size 9,5 boots, stance 21" +12/-12, board size 156
Thanks for your take and glad you liked it as much as we did.
Hi guys, I really want to thank you for making these reviews and particularly this one. I was looking for a new board after owning one for over 20 years and I decided to go with the Indoor Survival 158 wide. I had the K2 Zeppelin 164 b4 never got better then a decent beginner. I just came back from 4 days on the mountains with the new board and maann, this is a huuuge difference. I was able to rip it from the first try, it switches from hill to tow with such ease and holds edge unbelievable. Even saved my ass a few times only bcs I got to lazy.
Thanks again, keep doing the good videos.
Many thanks and glad you like it as much as we do. Cheers!
The best combo of carving power and fun springy pop
Glad you like it.
I have the 2024 BSOD and love it. I wanted to mix up my quiver for days I dont want to hard charge. I could do more park runs but still something capable of all mountain and the occasional send it. I think the Indoor Survival fits the bill here and just ordered the 2025.
Right on. Hope you like it as much as we do.
thank god i found this review, was on the fence about the board vs DOA. Great heads up on 158 vs 158W. Def gonna have to go 158w with my size boot - thanks for this!
Many thanks and glad it helped.
Out of curiosity, what was the buying incentive over the DOA? I’m looking at the same exact two boards and not sure..
@basedgodism
Hey guys, I've been looking at the Yes Basic Uninc (156W - I'm 165-170lbs and 10US) for park (big, med, and small jump lines + jibbing) and all mountain riding (not much pow in Australia though).
However for the same price, I can grab an Indoor Survival (156).
From your reviews, both sound like great boards, and both would be a playful decks all around the mountain, yet still be great for all of the park.
Which board do you guys reckon is better? Should I stick with Uninc or go with the Indoor Survival?
Uninc is much better for hard and uneven snow vs. the Indoor Survival so for where you mainly ride that's the better choice.
Thanks for the help!@@thegoodridesnow
Picked one of these up after riding a Burton Dom for the last 15 years, thanks for all the great info on the Indoor!
Hopefully the transition to the new board will go smoothly!
Thanks and hope you like it as much as we did.
Nice guys. You mentioned the Yes Standard Uninc, I have one still in the plastic and I’m trying to decide if I want to keep it or not. Are you going to put out a review on that board?
Great board! If it fits your specs and ability level I would for sure keep this. What is your boot size, weight, height and ability level? Also what board did it replace and what did you like/not like about it?
@@thegoodridesnow size 9 vans infuse, 5;11" 195lbs (all muscle, just like you and Davey). High intermediate low advanced, hard to say tbh. Bought it to round out a quiver of my Warpig for my party board my Excavator which is my free ride board. Both of those boards are fantastic. Want this one to practice switch and try and look cool on side hits.
What size Standard Uninc do you have?
What size Excavator do you have?
What size Warpig do you have?
@@thegoodridesnow the warping and excavator are both 154. Standard is a 156.
That will work. Its a little wide for size 9's but you like and ride some pretty wide boards now so you will be totally fine. Tear the wrapper off and go ride it! Great call for what u wanna do.
I wish i got this graphic
2025 one is even cooler
@nqtedog i like the school girl outfit though haha im probably getting the 2025, trying to figure out what sorta board i want
I really like this board, do you think it could fit me as an low-intermediary rider mainly doing blue/reds ? Im improving fast but i dont do powder or park at all.
I would probably pass. This board will be a lot more fun later if you take the time to get your skills down on something more forgiving like the Outerspace Living or Mercury.
I take it you liked this more than the DOA? Was it the pop and trad camber? Can't decide between the two, feels like I'm splitting hairs but I've been riding camber boards since 2004 so I'm leaning Indoor.
Yes I did but it's all down to personal preference. For me the pop was the same between the two. What it came down to me was the turning experience I got from the Indoor. It just felt better than the DOA. Both are great boards and it just comes down to what calls to you more. So if you are used to full camber I'd probably go with the Indoor.
@@thegoodridesnow got a 156 Indoor on the way. Thank you, sir!
Right on. Hope you like it as much as I did.
During the video you mentioned about detuning a bit for the indoor survival. May I ask why part of the board are you referring to? The flat area? Or the tip where the camber starts?
Yeah, just detune near the end of the sidecut into the nose/tail so it doesn't catch an edge as easily and butter easier. It's something most of us used to do back in the day when boards were full camber. You only need to take a pass or two with a file at a very mellow angle when on the effective edge.
I’m a beginner…only snowboarded once…would this work for me and allow we to grow into?
No. I would look for the Outerspace Living if you want a forgiving twin that you can progress with.
Hi good ride, Im a high end intermediate, 5'9, 143, and size 11 boots. Was wondering if you think the 2025 model of the indoor survival would be a good fit for me. I was looking into the huck knife, or the doa, but want something more all mountain. I am willing to put n the work to progress on a catchier, more advanced board. Was wondering your thoughts, thanks.
Maybe but all the boards on your list are pretty catchy/technical for an intermediate. Not sure where you want to ride this and the other boards you mentioned. Do you plan on riding a lot in the park and want to ride Switch a lot?
You also might want to hit me here If you want to do this right and give me the info I need to help you much better. shop.thegoodride.com/merchandise/gear-advice/
How would you compare this to Jones rallycat? Stiffer? Grip on hardsnow? ice?
Rally Cat is softer, has better grip and is close to the IS pop. It also sets much further back in powder so you get easier float and a better turning experience with the lifted sides.
I want to make sure this board is not too advanced for me. I can bomb down hill and carve here in the Midwest no problem, still shaky riding switch though. I can hit any rail that is flush with the snow/lip but learning to jump onto rails, hit bigger rails and I’m hitting small-mediumish jumps. Would this be a good progressive board or too advanced ?
It's more on the technical/catchy side but i depends on what make/model/size/year board you are coming from now, what your boot size, weight and height is and how the old board works for you. If you want to get into it more, hit me here to give me the info I need to help you much better. shop.thegoodride.com/merchandise/gear-advice/
Would you recommend the Indoor Survival or the DOA for an intermediate rider wanting to ride all mountain and work on jumps and spins? Want something light with pop and ability to go decently fast. Or is there another board you would recommend?
No. I wouldn't recommend either for an intermediate. I would instead look at the Outerspace Living or SB Resort Twin that has a lot less camber and is much more forgiving. If you want to get into it more and do this right, hit me here to give me the info I need to help you much better. shop.thegoodride.com/merchandise/gear-advice/
same situation for me. looking at the 2025, wondering the same things. Probably gonna go with the indoor survival, lmk what you end up going with
@@thegoodridesnow help pls!
my custom x broke down last season..
I love deep carving and this board was and great.
The guy at the rent shop gave me a Burton beginner board with flat base and soft flex.
I loved the playfulness/nimbleness and even carving felt good with the flat profile.
I wanna learn freestyle carving like Ryan knapton but at medium speeds.
Flat tricks ,butter, sidejumps stuff like this as well
Ryan’s board is stiff as hell so now Iam confused to get the doa or the softer more forgiving outer space.
also considering evil twin, evil twin plus
Would love the have some input from you
Thanks for the review! I got the indoor survival and absolutely love it. Sold my burton custom, never Summer Proto slinger and bataleon disaster plus because the indoor has all the playfulness and pop I could wish. But how would you compare the indoor survival to the super doa?
Thanks for your take. We all liked the Indoor better because of the extra camber vs. the Camber to flat. It popped about the same, turned a little better and just matched up with our turning style of riding better. That being said the Super DOA is well liked by many and really shines for those that love an easy ollie or lapping kickers in the park. I would try to demo the Super DOA or DOA and bring your Indoor to compare to see what you like better as it's all personal preference.
@@thegoodridesnow thank you for the answer! It’s crazy that the indoor turned better, I thought the wider waist width is a disadvantage for a quick edge to edge
If you mean turn initiation then yeah DOA's are faster but the extra camber gives much better spring out of the turn vs less camber to more flat on the DOA's. The DOA's pop really well on an ollie though and are the same or a touch better there. Its just hard to beat almost full camber when it comes to the overall turning experience.
What is your weight/boot size and what size did you get?
@@mark_7891 80kg, 43 boot size, 154 board size 👌🏻
Just had my first couple rides on this board. I’m a mid-high intermediate coming from an Outerspace Living. Tough transition. Far less torsional flex, feels pretty catchy, and not friendly to skidded turns. Very poppy though which is great while carving and jumps.
Do you think stone grinding away the structure would help with the catchy feeling? Contemplating the grind or even selling and getting something else.
That might help a little and so would de-tunning the edges near the end of the effective edge a bit but this is a mostly camber ride for advanced to expert riders. Hit me up here if you would like in depth advice on a board that better fits your ability level, where you ride, and your specs. thegoodride.com/snowboard-binding-and-boot-advice/
@@thegoodridesnow Sent in a request! Thanks for the help 🤙🏽
Can i use this as a beginner?
Its not ideal and it's a lot easier to catch an edge than many other boards out there. Go Outerspace living if you want something more forgiving or hit me up here to do this right and give me the info I need to help you much better. shop.thegoodride.com/merchandise/gear-advice/
@@thegoodridesnow thanks for the quick response! I was about to get this because of its design. I will check your link later
@The Good Ride In regards to the Deathgrip slightly embellishing the W/W. Would I be better off going with the 158 or 158wide with 10.5 Vans Infuse and Large Strata bindings? Thank you very much.
I think it will work at 158 as it's pretty wide over the inserts. To be sure I would check timecode 3:10 where there are measurements of the 158's width over the inserts and compare it to the footprint of your Large Strata's at the stance angles you use to make sure there is no binding overhang. The wide might feel pretty wide for 10.5's but that could work too if you like a little wider board for your boot size.
I have the 158 with the same size boots and exact same size bindings and I didn’t have any issues with toe and heel hang.
Hi good ride, you gave advice to me earlier, but you didnt recommend the indoor survival for an all rounder intermediate going to advanced, in the park and on groomers, would you still recommend it over the yes basic uninc? i am size 7.5 boot and will get around size 152.
Yeah I wouldn't recommend this for a intermediate. If you hit me up here shop.thegoodride.com/merchandise/gear-advice/ then stick with the recommendations I gave you there. I put a lot of time and effort into those.
Is it discontinued because i was trying to find the board but its out of stock in all the websites I visited
No just sold out everywhere
@@thegoodridesnow damn
How do you think this compairs to the lib tech dynamo? I don't do a ton of park and am trying to improve my switch riding this season. Is the Dynamo bad for switch riding cause it's not a twin and not centered? Is the indoor survival too chattery at speed or on uneven snow when the runs get torn up by the end of the day? I mainly ride in the midwest, Wisconsin can get pretty iced up, and take one or two trips out west each year. Is the lib better cause of the magnetraction?
Two very different rides. Yeah if you want a twin for better switch/centered riding the Indoor could for sure work. It is more chattery than the Lib and the grip will be a bit less. Maybe not the best for mid-west riding. If you want some good board recommendations for where you ride hit me up here so I can do this right. shop.thegoodride.com/merchandise/gear-advice/
@@thegoodridesnow is the lib very chattery? I thought the dynamo had great reviews for the uneven snow.
Sorry! Meant to say the indoor is more chattery than the lib. Just corrected my comment.
Thanks for the great review! Quick question regarding sizing. I’m 5’11”, 190-195lbs, size 9.5M boot union ultras, intermediate-advanced rider. Should I go for the 156 or 158? Really torn bc my big thing is stability hitting M-L kickers which makes me lean towards the 158, but I also don’t want to sacrifice maneuverability butters and spins. Last year I rode both a blossom 155, which was far too small, and an evil twin 157 which is the biggest board I’ve ever owned. What are your thoughts?
158 would be better for this board for your specs. Not sure if this is the board you want though if you want a shorter length. Hit me up here if you want to get into more detail. shop.thegoodride.com/merchandise/gear-advice/
@@thegoodridesnow how do you kno who to get back to me with the advise as theres no contact info asked for inthe form ?
I reply to ur email.
Are you reviewing the new 2024 IS? Now it’s a total twin board, do you think the differences are that obvious or not?
I didn't get one. I don't think it will be that different if they just changed the stance location. Doesn't seem like much else changed except a slight tweak to the core. Would love to ride the new one though. I'll try to get my hands on one.
What would you say are the quickest edge-to-edge all-mountains with good pop?
That is a tough question to answer here. It really depends on your specs, ability level etc that I don't have. If you size this correctly it will be very quick edge to edge and this was one of the poppiest boards we recently tried. If you want real advice hit me up here so I can help you properly. thegoodride.com/snowboard-binding-and-boot-advice/
hey man i’m thinking of getting the indoor survival 2025. Im thinking of getting a size 154. What you think? I weigh 150lb, height is 5 8 and a half, intermediate riding (i like to go fast and hit side jumps/freestyle. What size should i be aiming for?
Boot size? Make/model/size/year board you ride now and how it works for ya?
@ my boot size is 10. this is a first snowboard purchase. I’ve always been renting. Last season i rented a k2 but i don’t know what model or size. I think it was an all mountain k2, it was pretty nice. I actually ordered the indoor survival 2025 size 152 but i felt it was too small for me so i returned it. Now im debating whether i made the right decision or not. I might go for the size 154, but i need to hear your opinion first
Need to know the actual board. If you are an intermediate, then it might not be a good call. Did it not feel catchy? So, boot size is the most important part of choosing a board and the 152 will feel super small with 10's unless you are only jibbing but you would be better off with a different board. I would consider 154 or 156 or possibly a different ride, but I would need to know more about you to help properly. If you want to get into it more, hit me here to give me the info I need to help you much better. shop.thegoodride.com/merchandise/gear-advice/
@@thegoodridesnowwhy would i need a different board?
Need the model K2 you rode? Can u answer the questions above?
How would it compare to a skate nana?
Night and day differences. Skate Banana is continuous rocker/much more forgiving and very loose between the feet and it feels softer on snow. It has more grip too with the MTX but auto spins in harder snow. The Capita IS is almost full camber, much more catchy but much more poppy, has a faster base and is much more stable underfoot.
ive got a Rome national from 2018-2019, looking for an upgrade something better in switch and a bit more playful/forgiving flex, and can lay a good carve, they have this in my local shop. wondering if this would be a good shout or if its just going to be too similar, looks an epic board. will be riding with malavitas would that be a good fit, I am size 12 boot and 105kg size recommendations?
This is a great board but it will not be as forgiving as the National. The camber profiles look similar but on snow It will have more pop and a little softer flex but it will feel a little more catchy and be less damp than the National. If that is ok the 161w should work with 12's.
@@thegoodridesnow yeah that sounds like it should be a great fit, is it easier to initiate a turn than the rome national?, im between the capita and the twin pig. I’m going to use the Rome for teach this winter. What would you recommend for something better in powder and ripping through trees if I was to have 3 boards?
It's hard to help based on the info given. I need to know a lot more to help you properly. Hit me up here if you want real advice. thegoodride.com/snowboard-binding-and-boot-advice/
Can’t decide between the Burton Custom and Capita indoor survival 😅 I really only like carving at speed, riding switch, hitting side hits, and jumping, Which fits the bill better? 6’2 size 11 boot breaking into advanced rider territory and looking to progress.
Weight? Need all three to even guess here on YT but if you want real advice hit me here. I take this seriously and truly want to help so I created this service. If you want to get into it more hit me here to give me the info I need to help you much better. shop.thegoodride.com/merchandise/gear-advice/
5"10, 165 lbs and size 9, would a 152 be too small for park and all mountain (resort) riding? Worried the 152 might be too soft but the 154 too stiff for me.
Yes. I think you would like the 156 much better.
@@thegoodridesnow Sorry I assume you meant the 154?
Nope 156 for mtn. 154 would be better for park but here is the thing. You haven't given me a lot of info about you to go on. Hit me here if you want more accurate/in depth advice that leads to a happy purchase. shop.thegoodride.com/merchandise/gear-advice/
Hey James - Did you guys get a chance to ride the 2023 Outsiders this year? If so is the Indoor Survival still your top Capita board in the V1 profile?
No we didn't but I'm sure it's still a pretty fun board. The Indoor and Outsiders are pretty different rides though so hard to compare the two. Indoor has a setback on sidecut and is stiffer. more of an all mountain to mountain freestyle ride. Outsiders is a softer true twin more for park to mountain freestyle riding.
@@thegoodridesnow Sorry for the confusion! I mean the Outsiders camber board with V1 profile, not the Outerspace Living, which I agree is a softer board than the Indoor.
The Outsiders as I understand it is a 6 firmness, so stiffer than Indoor.
No confusion here. The Outsiders I tried a while back felt pretty soft. Softer than the Indoor does now. I was not accidentally referencing the Outerspace living. Maybe they stiffened up the Outsiders. Hope to get on it again. Still feel they are pretty different boards though.
Hello! Quick question. I was recently gifted this board, still in plastic, and am not sure if I should keep it as it may be too much for me? Last season I rode a 2021 Burton Custom 150 for half the season and a YES Basic 149. The custom was borrowed. I would consider myself a kinda low-mid intermediate rider, getting into deeper carving and getting into park stuff and more buttering. I typically ride down blues. When getting into park I was told by a lot of instructors that the basic isn't really a good platform to want to progress in park with. So, my question is if this board would be worth it to keep or should I swap it for something better suited to my skill level? For reference I am 5'7, 135lb, size 9.5 vans invader pro boots. Thanks! Also love the videos, big fan. You guys really go in depth to a level far greater than most.
Many thanks for the good words. What size Indoor Survival were you gifted? Also, what part of the park? Jibs, Jumps, Pipe or a little of everything?
That is a good fit for you spec wise and that is a great jump board. However, It's a little on the technical side and it will be easier to catch an edge with it. I learned on a lot worse back in the day but you have the opportunity to learn with less consequence so your choice.. You might actually like something like the Basic and Outerspace Living for park. The Basic 149 or 152 isn't great if you want to jib but it is a pretty solid board for hitting kickers/jumps. It is also better matched for your skill level. So is the 154 Outerspace Living.
@@thegoodridesnow Awesome! Thanks so much for the tips, I really appreciate it. I think that I will stick with the Basic for now maybe when I get some more technical skills branch out to a board better suited for what I decide to do, focus park or not. I will make sure to keep watching your vids for board reviews so I will know what to get down the line! Keep being awesome man :)
@@Vsh__ Many thanks and when the time comes to buy another ride hit me up here. thegoodride.com/snowboard-binding-and-boot-advice/
I cannot decide between this the Rome Agent or the YES. Jackpot they just all seem so similar and all awesome boards help plz lol
P.S. at this point I'm leaning towards the jackpot based off of reviews of the 21/22 and bc the graphic on the 22/23 is sick haha
I got the indoor survival and it's a amazing board. Go capita great boards
Yeah all are great boards in their own way. Jackpot is softer and has a lot more camber and the best edge hold but worst in pow. Agent is stiffer but has early rise before the nose/tail so it's actually more forgiving. Better in pow than the Jackpot. Both are great boards. If you want softer and more poppy but more unforgiving go Jackpot. If you want more forgiving and a little better on the mountain go Agent. Now if you want a flex similar to the Agent, a camber profile between the Jackpot and Agent (not that forgiving though), best pop of the three and a little more set back on board for more directional float on pow days go Indoor Survival.
@@thegoodridesnow Wow awesome comparison thank you so much this helped a lot!
Hi James, I'm considering between INDOOR and CUSTOM. Is the overall experience of the INDOOR even better than the BURTON CUSTOM? What are the pros and cons of INDOOR and CUSTOM compared to each other? Which one would be better for complex snow conditions (cruds, messy snow, icy)?
Both are great boards and both are pretty technical. I personally prefer the Indoor a little more just because it is a little more forgiving and more versatile as a one board quiver. I don't have to be on my game as much as the Custom but the Custom has more pop and drive out of a turn with that full camber.
@@thegoodridesnow Very helpful, thanks very much.
Believe it or not but the vast majority of the customers ski in resorts and CAPITA does not classify the mercury as a resort board. Only 4 belong to this category the DOAs, the outer space and the new aeronaut. The great Outdoor survival is park and probably too centered stiff twin for resort grade powder as you mentioned. So there is still room to salami this side of the market, with the aeronaut they decided to kick the can far back into the 90'. Hopefully we won't have to wait for another 5 years for a more directional outdoor.
Thanks for your take.
Mercury vs mega merc? 😎
Or new NVRSMR Funslinger Westbound?
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Super review, like always 🔥💪🏻
Reviews coming on Merc and Mega Merc soon. Hope to get on the Funslinger Westbound if it is staying around longer than one season and will reach out to NS.
Perfecto. Can’t wait 😎🔥
Best for U 🙏🏻
Thanks!
Indoor survival or yes greats? My understanding is the first is more poppy while the second is better carver.
They are pretty close when it comes to carving. I'd say more pop on an ollie/better spring out of the turn with the Indoor but more grip/more forgiivng/better uneven snow performance with the Greats. Hit me up here if you want in depth advice on which is actually right for you. shop.thegoodride.com/merchandise/gear-advice/
Hi James, if I ride the Nitro Team with no issues of catchy-ness, would this board be ‘less’ catchy for me compared to the Nitro Team?
And between this and the Rome Warden, which board is more “advanced” and separately, between warden and this, which is more “catchy”? Thanks in advance!
Both the Warden and Team Camber both have a little more camber and a more locked in feel but its close.
@@thegoodridesnow In short, the indoor survival is slightly less catchy?
yes
Uhhhh isn’t the indoor survival a true twin …
In 2023 it wasnt (had a .5" setback on sidecut) and in 2024 it is a true twin...