@@kaderussell7193 I have already found that out lol, I am already working on a couple of decks from scratch that are having to come together *very* slowly
I'm new also, started beginning of the year. It gets expensive quick but you'll love it. I would also recommend the merfolk deck and the food and fellowship deck from Lord of the rings. Food and fellowship can go hard AF especially after some inexpensive tweaks
I'm excited to build another dinosaur deck that is different than my Ghishath. Great suggestions for the upgrades. Would love to see a full upgrade for the deck rather than just ten cards. Either way, great video!
Just wondering why you guys went with Elemental Bond over Garruk's Uprising? Same cost, only 4 cards in the deck trigger Ele but not Garruk AND it gives your big boys Trample ... AND it will usually draw a card when entering the battlefield itself.
@@mthlay15 Lol Garruk's uprising has several dinos on it depending on the version you get. I'm guessing they went with elemental bond because it triggers off of all of the 3/3 dino tokens the deck can make. I still like Garruk's uprising more though.
I feel like OG Ghalta and Gigantosaurus are pretty decent adds. Giga is a little hard to cast, but with the ramp in the deck you can get pretty good fixing and then it's a 5-mana discover 10. Ghalta is arguably better because it's bigger, cheaper and it has trample. And, if it's not in the deck, Garruk's Uprising is a must add because card draw and it gives everything trample.
Savage Order might be my favorite add for this deck because of the ability to cheat Ghalta, Stampede Tyrant out, thus allowing me to then put all other creatures in my hand out for free. Especially with Esper Sentinel, Thought Vessel, Reliquary Tower, & more card draw to stack up hella creatures in the hand first.
I have been a Gishath player since it came out, and dinosaurs are THE reason I still play magic. I was literally on my way to my LGS to sell my collection when Gishath got announced. I am very much building this deck. And Huatli. And Wayta. I may also be eyeing the Indoraptor... I like dinosaurs
I'd like 2 see ur gishath list. I've been playing him the same time. I've gotten mine tuned where 3rd turn gish is swinging with doublestrike or double dmg. IT brings fear wherever it goes
@@joshj1351 That sounds...bad? Like what is it a billion pieces of fast mana? Where are all the dinosaurs. Whats the point if youre not slamming mega huge dinosaurs.
Had to order this one as I’m getting into MTG, and have always loved Dinosaurs. I’ve bought some upgrades for the deck to add in once it comes too. I love how the Commander looks!
I think a very interesting card in this deck is Cream of the Crop. Since your creatures are generally quite big and you often get two for ones on your Dinos, it gives you a ton of card selection and can allow you to heavily stack your deck to get the best stuff off your discovers.
Am I weird for thinking that life crafters bestiary is almost perfect for the deck since it scrys to possibly help setup the top card for pantlaza and in a deck where I am casting huge dinosaurs and probably only one a turn for the first half of the game I think that spending any extra green to draw cards is perfectly fine.
I agree, for me their logic seemed super backwards. They said it's better if you're playing cheaper creatures, but if you're paying an additional mana from 2 to 3, that's a 50% increase, whereas it's much lower percentage wise for bigger creatures. Also, if you're playing cheap creatures, you have a high chance of double or even triple spelling, which means you're very good at using all your mana to cast an additional creature, so paying the tax even once probably slows you down by a spell. If you're slamming big creatures, there are going to be a ton of turns where you play a 7 drop on 8 or 9 lands and have nothing else to do. In those circumstances, you'd love a way to spend that last bit of mana to keep your tires spinning, and you lose basically no tempo for doing so.
I disagree on some of the subtractions, but neither one of us is wrong. I’m going to have to find spots for the Bonehoard Dragon I got in the Collector booster sample pack in my Dino precon (synergy!) and the Hunting Velociraptor I had in my bundle.
I know it's a bit of a hit or miss with the deck only having 32 creatures, but I will absolutely suggest adding Lurking Predators. The more creatures you have in your deck the more effective it is, and it WILL trigger even if it's the only thing you cast all turn. Every single spell an enemy casts is a chance for you to drop a free dinosaur onto the battlefield, and with Pantlaza wanting ETB to happen, it will trigger off of every creature you can cheat out with this enchantment.
Gonna reiterate just in case that you do not have to play the cards you discover, so it literally makes it card draw with upside. This also means you don't have to develop the board when you don't want to, for example, if you're expecting a board wipe (or even got one in your hand already). I know, I know, free value is hard to turn down, but I do think this mechanic is more skill-testing than people give it credit for.
here in Europe, these precons have different prices, the dinosaur precon and the vampire precon cost more than the merfolk precon and the pirate decks do, in fact, this dinosaur deck costs a lot more than the others. such a shame. I just checked the website of a LGS in Texas, they are selling these for 49.99$. Are you sure the retail is 40 $? But at least they are all going for the same price though. since you added monster manual, you might as well add the Elvish Piper as the 11th card if you are gonna add more than 10. just take out a land, you have 39 which is too many in my opinion. I did 15 out, 15 in, my extra additions are: Skyshroud claim, instead of cultivate, nature's lore, instead of drover of the mighty, elvish piper for dinosaur egg, ghalta, primal hunger for 1 plains and last, I did Chromatic lantern for Progenitor's Icon, they are both 3 mana and the lantern is more useful and last, because Gishath is cheap in Europe, I added him instead of adding "Invasion of Ikoria" like you suggested. they are both big dinosaurs. Lurking Predators, as suggested by someone in the comments is also super nice, maybe I'll add that later, I'll do these 15 first. my total upgrade cost is 37,39 € (39.94 $), so I have 10 left if I want to spend 50 and Lurking predators is 4.75 so yeah... gonna do that at some point, still pretty budget.
I disagree with cutting Lifecrafters Beastiary at the least. This card is consistently getting added in any creature deck with green. Especially in this deck, I think the free upkeep scry is being severely underrated But love the video and the flow between you two is very easy to listen to. Thank you for your hard work ❤
Again : nice job ! This upgrade guide is very entertaining, even for "old" players. In your budget upgraded, you noticed the interaction between sneak attack and ephemerate. Even though ephemerate is strong because it's an instant, there is a stronger and cheaper card that blinks all those dinosaures way more often : Nahiri's resolve. "just sayin' ! " ;)
To be honest I'm was really hoping that you'd choose Pantlaza since I really want him to be my commander but a lot of people rating and upgrading this deck chose Wayta ^^ Which is honestly the more interesting choice mechanically speaking but for my first dinosaur deck I also want to have a dinosaur as my commander! So grateful for the vid and adding some blink / etb-trigger cards!
I have tried to play that card. It rarely draws me anything. I am not saying it is bad. I am just saying instead of waiting for some value. It'd be better to put something with more consistent value!? Garruks uprising, life finds a way, welcome to jurassic park, etc
my immediate thought with this deck was add in all of the enrage dinos, a couple of the "everything gets +0/+1' enchantments, maybe a couple of the 0cmc toughness equipment, a pyrohemia, swap the commander, then just add and tweak from there. the double enrage effects and being able to force them so easily seems too good to pass up. and she's a 1/5... she was born to bonk dinos with her stick.
Do you think that Deck can be strong? I find it really interesting, but after reading a lot of enraged cards i dont know if they will be really good. But i never played a deck like that so i dont know.
I love that you guys do a bang for your buck section now. One thing that could be cool would be divide the reprint value by the number of the reprints plus basic lands. This would be more favorable to sets like Lord of the Rings and Dr. Who, and less so to sets like commander masters.
I've done a little research on some good cards to run with Pantlaza as the commander to enhance the benefits for discover, or that work well with the deck. (Some may already be included from the video, the deck, or haven't released yet.) Wayward Swordtooth $2.50+ Sneak Attack $5.00+ Thrasta. Tempest's Roar $1.00+ Elemental Bond $5.00+ Cryptic Gateway $1.00+ Pugnacious Hammerskull $0.75+ Knight of the Stampede $0.35+ Hulking Raptor $1.50+ Kinjalli's Caller $0.20+ Ghalta, Primal Hunger $2.50+ Garruk's Uprising $0.45+ Blasphemous Act $1.50+ Monster Manual $4.00+ Herald's Horn $5.00+ Swords to Plowshares $0.75+ Ghalta and Mavren $2.00+ Heroic Intervention $8.00+ Ephemerate $1.50+ Lurking Predators $5.50+ For a total price of about $50 for all 19 cards I would say it's worth it. Though I'd likely add about 10-15. I didn't have a whole lot of lower cost red dinos/cards atm since a lot of them are pricey or I didn't think of any. (I'm mainly a green player), but these are mostly $0.50-$5.00. If anyone has any good red cards to throw in please throw a comment!
4:04 It's funny you mention that. I'm gonna throw down some Dino knowledge on ya! The Velociraptors from Jurassic Park were modeled after Utahraptors and Deinonychus. Which were that big.
Well if you have a Gishath deck already you basically only need the new cards and reprints you don't have. (and you can switch between pantlaza and gishath for dinosaur tribal.) oh and upgrades you absolutely missed "Trapjaw Tyrant" that's a enrage "Reclaimation sage" Silverclad ferociouidons is a very scary thing to block and let through. Polyraptor.. the only reason thats not in the deck is Marauding raptor since that can cause a draw. but theres a fix with "Wrathful raptors" which is a win con with this draw combo but the one upgrade missed bar none thats a absolute necessity is "Forerunner of the empire" it puts a dinosaur ontop of the deck then the next dino coming out could cheat it out.
most of those cards aren't in the video because they're just too expensive. Polyraptor alone is upwards of $26 with most of the others sitting above $10 a piece.
I just got mine in today. Plan to do some upgrades to it. Though, I'm surprised you didn't talk about the 3rd Commander option in this deck, Zacama. I'm also surprised you left Wayta in for the upgrades. She just feels like an auto-drop to me.
Same bro, I got it early because I told my friend who likes Dragons; "You know what's cooler than Dragons?... Dinosaurs!!! 🤣" (They don't know what's coming to em)
Would you guys run Kinjali's Suncaller, Priest of the Waking Sun, Wakening Sun's Avatar and the 2 OG Huatli's, Dinosaur Knight & Warriors Poet in the deck?
I personally don't like sion of calamity. It would be a lot better with trample. I'd personally use the sailback from March of the machine instead or the sail dinosaur from aftermath
Savage Order might be my favorite add for this deck because of the ability to cheat Ghalta, Stampede Tyrant out, thus allowing me to then put all other creatures in my hand out for free. Especially with Esper Sentinel, Thought Vessel, Reliquary Tower, & more card draw to stack up hella creatures in the hand first.
Really excited about this deck because dinos are sweet. One of the guys in my pod had a Gishath that i played and played against and it was always underwhelming because it got removed 80% of the time before triggering. There's probably some protection or haste enablers that could make it more impactful but in general I think that is kinda just the card design/balance. This is to me seems more reliable value and less threatening as soon as it hits the board so you hopefully get more triggers
I saw 1 announced JP card would be in this deck and instantly pre-ordered. Probably also getting the Naga one, both just seem right up my alley, in both flavour and playstyle
I've been playing my velociramptor deck with my own mods since it was released and i do have to say - *don't sleep on the enrage cards or their triggers* . I was fortunate to pull a Polyraptor in one my my boosters (i know this is on a budget) - you're going to want it though. If you're running bellowing aegisaur, those raptors are cloning and growing, if you're running Gishath as your commander and play verdant sun's avatar, you're going to be getting life like ted bundy on trial. Then you're swarming, ramping, so many triggers, uber life gain, even if you become a target, nobody wants to swing at you because you can block with your raptors and create more.. they'll board wipe you but you don't care, you're sitting on 80 hp and you get to deploy gishath again - or just ephemerate him out the way and get a new roster of free dinos there and then. If you simplify your goals to just hit the ground with haste and some mid-range attack power, you will get laserd down.
The people behind Jurassic park and Crichton made a gamble. They didn’t know about Utah Raptor at the time, it hadn’t been discovered yet but it was heavy theorized a predator matching the “Jurassic Park velociraptor” had existed. So they named it velociraptor and went on with the movie. After the movie was released they found the first Utah Raptor fossil. Which is scarier than the Jurassic Park version btw
Roaming Throne to make Pantlaza discover twice instead, Savage order to cheat out new Ghalta (& thus every other creature in hand), & Contest of Claws to remove a creature AND get off a potentially huge discovery for just 2 mana, are some of my favorite additions to this deck
My Dino deck had 38 land and 39 Dinos. So this deck didn't surprise me in this deck Shifting Ceratops I do like playing. Because there isn't too many reach or flying dinos
My highest recommendation is Nahiri's Resolve. Buffs, gives Haste and can blink your dinos. Burning Sun's Avatar can deal ETB damage again and can activate Pantlaza's Discover for 6. I know Pantlaza only works once for turn, but you can blink it to do it again!
I'm really surprised polyraptor wasn't mentioned. You'd have to be careful not to cause a deadlock with marauding raptor because the trigger is forced/automatic for both. But If you swap out Marauding raptor for Polyraptor (CMC 8), cards like Belligerent Brontodon (CMC 7), Imposing Vantasaur (CMC 6), or Looming Altisaur (CMC 4) be paired against it by Wayta and get two more 5/5's per turn for one Green. Toss in a 'Green Ward' or 'Shield of Duty and Reason' for one White each on the creature you want to have the Polyraptor fight and you could have twice as many 5/5's per turn as you have green mana free per turn.
I'm kinda sad we didn't get a new Gishath. Don't get me wrong, I love the new art, but I was hoping we got a new version of him if he's going to be in the main set
Bronzebeak might be my favorite card from this set and i might just get a bunch of them as just general white removal cause that life gain send to graveyard second mode seems like such a good insurance policy to prevent people from killing it cause if your holding up mana anyways you can make sure they dont get there thing back out of spite
I’m surprised y’all didn’t include any ixilan cards in the adds. I pulled an enchantment that says whenever i discover, instead discover, then discover again
I guess the idea was to keep pantlaza as commander, but I'd suggest looking into switching it with the new Huatli poet of unity: ramps at turn 3, turn 4 you can transform it and from there on, if they can't remove it before the third counter, you just roll over any board.
Imma just say this choose your weapon, gisela, blade of goldnight, twinferno with a 10/10 or bigger on the board alongside that akromas will or chandras ignition..... Ive done it twice this week Edit: i took out some of the "if dino was dealt damage or etb deal dmg to your creature stuff" stuff and put in older cascade dinos and 2 angels Aurelia and obviously gisela and elesh norn,MoM for reasons........ Also gishath with akromas will and choose your weapon, and Aurelia on the battle field as well
Oh if you liked the movie for Killers of the Flower Moon and the “crime podcast” aspect of it, you have NO IDEA what you’re missing out on from the book. The movie spoiled the whole mystery from the get go. Read the book, it’s so much more mind blowing of a reveal/expose
Great Additions and lovly atmosphere as always! ❤ but Runic Armasaur is gread I think in this deck, potential card draw and 5 Discovering is pretty decent imo.
20:30 The other pre-cons are going for that price. Unfortunately this deck has a massive premium on it and is about $75, and I think that is an important point that should have been mentioned (as this video is only a day old). I really wanted just this deck, but was not going to spend that kind of money on it. The bundles of all 4 decks still is going at the normal rate though, so I spent extra to get that. Of course if this had been the normal price I wouldn't have done that, so WotC wins by getting extra money from me.
This is the precon I pre-ordered and also the very first magic cards I will have and I am *extremely* hyped for it
Great choice for a first deck 👌
Yes, great choice! Magic can be a expensive hobby to get into; especially if your planning on making decks from scratch
@@kaderussell7193 I have already found that out lol, I am already working on a couple of decks from scratch that are having to come together *very* slowly
I'm new also, started beginning of the year. It gets expensive quick but you'll love it. I would also recommend the merfolk deck and the food and fellowship deck from Lord of the rings. Food and fellowship can go hard AF especially after some inexpensive tweaks
How do you love it so far? I'm wanting to get into magic and dinos have always interested me. This commander deck seems to speak to me for entry
I am without a shadow of a doubt, getting this precon because, I love Jurassic Park.
I preordered this commander deck already before watching this video.
Same
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Same here!
Shadow of Doubt wouldn't be legal in the deck anyways.
Original Ixalan got me into magic cause Dinosaurs.
Now all these years later, on the verge of card game burnout, life... finds a way.
its was 6 years ago? i hear "all these years later" and think youre talking at least 10 lol.
I'm excited to build another dinosaur deck that is different than my Ghishath. Great suggestions for the upgrades. Would love to see a full upgrade for the deck rather than just ten cards. Either way, great video!
My highest recommendation is Lurking Predators. One of my favorite cards and can build insane advantage in a creature based deck!
Yeah that's a cool addition and we definitely considered it! You really have to make sure your dino count is as high as possible there though.
@@JordanPridgen creature count has to be super high for sure! Love your work on the channel, man!
@@coveredenbeez324 throw it in! Give it a shot!
@@coveredenbeez324 with Pantlaza on the battlefield it's just bonkerssss
Just wondering why you guys went with Elemental Bond over Garruk's Uprising? Same cost, only 4 cards in the deck trigger Ele but not Garruk AND it gives your big boys Trample ... AND it will usually draw a card when entering the battlefield itself.
Good question. Maybe flavor. The art looks like it may contain a dino?
Elemental Bond is even $5... compared to the $1of garruk's uprising
More than likely because it will trigger on another 10 cards. That being said, I would add both.
Problably bcs of the 3 creature power etb of the elemental bond instead of 4 power of the uprising. I will try with both 😂😅
Garruk’s Uprising also goes well with Quartzwood Crasher (as we saw on GK).
@@mthlay15 Lol Garruk's uprising has several dinos on it depending on the version you get. I'm guessing they went with elemental bond because it triggers off of all of the 3/3 dino tokens the deck can make. I still like Garruk's uprising more though.
I feel like OG Ghalta and Gigantosaurus are pretty decent adds. Giga is a little hard to cast, but with the ramp in the deck you can get pretty good fixing and then it's a 5-mana discover 10. Ghalta is arguably better because it's bigger, cheaper and it has trample. And, if it's not in the deck, Garruk's Uprising is a must add because card draw and it gives everything trample.
I've gotten lucky with the green hideaway land and casting him for free by turn 5, and I've only ever gotten him once off of 👖's etb
New Ghalta works great, too, but it got pretty expensive
Savage Order might be my favorite add for this deck because of the ability to cheat Ghalta, Stampede Tyrant out, thus allowing me to then put all other creatures in my hand out for free. Especially with Esper Sentinel, Thought Vessel, Reliquary Tower, & more card draw to stack up hella creatures in the hand first.
I have been a Gishath player since it came out, and dinosaurs are THE reason I still play magic. I was literally on my way to my LGS to sell my collection when Gishath got announced. I am very much building this deck. And Huatli. And Wayta. I may also be eyeing the Indoraptor... I like dinosaurs
Dinos were legit my 1st deck I ever made, still love my gishath but I have neglected upgrading it so I'm super excited about this set and precon!
I'd like 2 see ur gishath list. I've been playing him the same time. I've gotten mine tuned where 3rd turn gish is swinging with doublestrike or double dmg. IT brings fear wherever it goes
@@joshj1351 That sounds...bad? Like what is it a billion pieces of fast mana? Where are all the dinosaurs. Whats the point if youre not slamming mega huge dinosaurs.
Had to order this one as I’m getting into MTG, and have always loved Dinosaurs. I’ve bought some upgrades for the deck to add in once it comes too. I love how the Commander looks!
Hope you have fun :)
The Dinosaurs from Space also synergizes with this deck as well. Cast it from suspend for 5 total dinos to trigger Pantslava.
I think a very interesting card in this deck is Cream of the Crop. Since your creatures are generally quite big and you often get two for ones on your Dinos, it gives you a ton of card selection and can allow you to heavily stack your deck to get the best stuff off your discovers.
And Mirri’s Guile, Sensei’ Hisoka’s Divining Top, with a splash of Kindred Summons or Door of Destiny to round up the win!
I picked up the 10 cards you suggested for this precon and I won my first 3 games of Commander last night!!!
From where? There mostly out of stock everywhere I look
@@brianl4137 I bought most of them from card kingdom and then the 2 that I couldn’t get from there I got from TCG player
Am I weird for thinking that life crafters bestiary is almost perfect for the deck since it scrys to possibly help setup the top card for pantlaza and in a deck where I am casting huge dinosaurs and probably only one a turn for the first half of the game I think that spending any extra green to draw cards is perfectly fine.
I agree, for me their logic seemed super backwards. They said it's better if you're playing cheaper creatures, but if you're paying an additional mana from 2 to 3, that's a 50% increase, whereas it's much lower percentage wise for bigger creatures.
Also, if you're playing cheap creatures, you have a high chance of double or even triple spelling, which means you're very good at using all your mana to cast an additional creature, so paying the tax even once probably slows you down by a spell. If you're slamming big creatures, there are going to be a ton of turns where you play a 7 drop on 8 or 9 lands and have nothing else to do. In those circumstances, you'd love a way to spend that last bit of mana to keep your tires spinning, and you lose basically no tempo for doing so.
@@bennettpalmer1741 my thoughts exactly.
Preach
I don’t think you are, I love it here.
Yup SAME
Cards to Add
-Sneak attack
-Monster Manual
-Cryptic gateway
-Ephemerate
-Invasion of Ikoria
-Greater good
-Elemental bond
-Relmwalker
-Flaming tyrannosaurus
Cards to Take Out
-Thundering Spineback
-Verdant sun's Avatar
-Bellowing Aegisaur
-Raging regisaur
-Majestic Heliopterus
-Shifting ceratops
-Runic armasaur
-Deathgorge scavenger
-Migration path
-lifecrafter's bestiary
I disagree on some of the subtractions, but neither one of us is wrong.
I’m going to have to find spots for the Bonehoard Dragon I got in the Collector booster sample pack in my Dino precon (synergy!) and the Hunting Velociraptor I had in my bundle.
Also add Etali Primal Conqueror (from the video)
I know it's a bit of a hit or miss with the deck only having 32 creatures, but I will absolutely suggest adding Lurking Predators. The more creatures you have in your deck the more effective it is, and it WILL trigger even if it's the only thing you cast all turn. Every single spell an enemy casts is a chance for you to drop a free dinosaur onto the battlefield, and with Pantlaza wanting ETB to happen, it will trigger off of every creature you can cheat out with this enchantment.
Upgrade guide: Buy Gishath
Surprised they hadn't said that one he's really good
Step two: Make it your commander.
I got really lucky, he was in my booster when bought my pirate deck.
@@ZClaireVoyanceZthey did just at the end of
One or two removals or counters of gish and you never cast him again this commander is better
One major upgrade I found was Passionate Archaeologist. Hitting someone for extra damage whenever you discover is sweet
Pricey, but definitely helpful.
Wayta looks like such a fun card to build around
Great commander and super for Alta. With her you can easy crack eggs. 💯💯🆒
Gonna reiterate just in case that you do not have to play the cards you discover, so it literally makes it card draw with upside. This also means you don't have to develop the board when you don't want to, for example, if you're expecting a board wipe (or even got one in your hand already). I know, I know, free value is hard to turn down, but I do think this mechanic is more skill-testing than people give it credit for.
I hope they do upgrades for the blood rites deck, too! That’s the one I’m super excited for!
here in Europe, these precons have different prices, the dinosaur precon and the vampire precon cost more than the merfolk precon and the pirate decks do, in fact, this dinosaur deck costs a lot more than the others. such a shame.
I just checked the website of a LGS in Texas, they are selling these for 49.99$. Are you sure the retail is 40 $? But at least they are all going for the same price though.
since you added monster manual, you might as well add the Elvish Piper as the 11th card if you are gonna add more than 10. just take out a land, you have 39 which is too many in my opinion. I did 15 out, 15 in, my extra additions are: Skyshroud claim, instead of cultivate, nature's lore, instead of drover of the mighty, elvish piper for dinosaur egg, ghalta, primal hunger for 1 plains and last, I did Chromatic lantern for Progenitor's Icon, they are both 3 mana and the lantern is more useful and last, because Gishath is cheap in Europe, I added him instead of adding "Invasion of Ikoria" like you suggested. they are both big dinosaurs.
Lurking Predators, as suggested by someone in the comments is also super nice, maybe I'll add that later, I'll do these 15 first. my total upgrade cost is 37,39 € (39.94 $), so I have 10 left if I want to spend 50 and Lurking predators is 4.75 so yeah... gonna do that at some point, still pretty budget.
I disagree with cutting Lifecrafters Beastiary at the least. This card is consistently getting added in any creature deck with green. Especially in this deck, I think the free upkeep scry is being severely underrated
But love the video and the flow between you two is very easy to listen to. Thank you for your hard work ❤
Again : nice job !
This upgrade guide is very entertaining, even for "old" players.
In your budget upgraded, you noticed the interaction between sneak attack and ephemerate. Even though ephemerate is strong because it's an instant, there is a stronger and cheaper card that blinks all those dinosaures way more often : Nahiri's resolve. "just sayin' ! " ;)
I think the point of Ephermerate is to blink on your turns to trigger Pantlaza twice on your turn. Nahiri doesn't seem that good tbh
First precon I've been excited about since the LOTR decks. Def picking this one up!
To be honest I'm was really hoping that you'd choose Pantlaza since I really want him to be my commander but a lot of people rating and upgrading this deck chose Wayta ^^ Which is honestly the more interesting choice mechanically speaking but for my first dinosaur deck I also want to have a dinosaur as my commander! So grateful for the vid and adding some blink / etb-trigger cards!
So excited to get my precon tomorrow! Already got all my adds and sleeves ready. Just need to get some new cards from the set too.
i feel the art for rythm of the wild is for the ravnica remastered set and they premptivly used the new art
Cutting runic armasaur is a mistake. Its 3 mana for discover 5 off the commander and will draw you cards off fetch lands at a minimum
I have tried to play that card. It rarely draws me anything. I am not saying it is bad. I am just saying instead of waiting for some value. It'd be better to put something with more consistent value!? Garruks uprising, life finds a way, welcome to jurassic park, etc
39"37 Cards to ADD: Sneak Attack, Monster Manual (Elvish Piper), Cryptic Gateway, Ephemerae, Invasion Of Ikoria (Ripjaw), Greater Good, Realmwalker, Etali Primal, Flaming Tyrannosaurus
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Use : to make a cool time stamp. Thx btw😊
my immediate thought with this deck was add in all of the enrage dinos, a couple of the "everything gets +0/+1' enchantments, maybe a couple of the 0cmc toughness equipment, a pyrohemia, swap the commander, then just add and tweak from there.
the double enrage effects and being able to force them so easily seems too good to pass up. and she's a 1/5... she was born to bonk dinos with her stick.
What has been overlooked here is that you legit came up with a better name on the first try... Ty-Ramp-Osauras Wreck is LIT
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Definitely getting this deck, but building it around Wayta. Fightharmonicon sounds like so much fun.
Do you think that Deck can be strong? I find it really interesting, but after reading a lot of enraged cards i dont know if they will be really good. But i never played a deck like that so i dont know.
@Moekules once you expand your search beyond cards that say "enrage" you find some much more interesting options.
I love that you guys do a bang for your buck section now. One thing that could be cool would be divide the reprint value by the number of the reprints plus basic lands. This would be more favorable to sets like Lord of the Rings and Dr. Who, and less so to sets like commander masters.
I’ve thought the same thing. Set specific basics are pretty different than “regular” basic reprints for me.
I've done a little research on some good cards to run with Pantlaza as the commander to enhance the benefits for discover, or that work well with the deck. (Some may already be included from the video, the deck, or haven't released yet.)
Wayward Swordtooth $2.50+
Sneak Attack $5.00+
Thrasta. Tempest's Roar $1.00+
Elemental Bond $5.00+
Cryptic Gateway $1.00+
Pugnacious Hammerskull $0.75+
Knight of the Stampede $0.35+
Hulking Raptor $1.50+
Kinjalli's Caller $0.20+
Ghalta, Primal Hunger $2.50+
Garruk's Uprising $0.45+
Blasphemous Act $1.50+
Monster Manual $4.00+
Herald's Horn $5.00+
Swords to Plowshares $0.75+
Ghalta and Mavren $2.00+
Heroic Intervention $8.00+
Ephemerate $1.50+
Lurking Predators $5.50+
For a total price of about $50 for all 19 cards I would say it's worth it. Though I'd likely add about 10-15. I didn't have a whole lot of lower cost red dinos/cards atm since a lot of them are pricey or I didn't think of any. (I'm mainly a green player), but these are mostly $0.50-$5.00. If anyone has any good red cards to throw in please throw a comment!
I’m calling him Pants, and then I’m gonna put Boots on Pants.
just a fun fact, the Utahraptor was about the size of the velociraptor from J-park
This feels great to play right out the box just add some blinks and you open up more avenues to build right after a board wipe
I love wayta. I also really like the vampire precon. And i need a fallout precon... im feeling the product fatigue but im still excited about it all!
4:04 It's funny you mention that. I'm gonna throw down some Dino knowledge on ya! The Velociraptors from
Jurassic Park were modeled after Utahraptors and Deinonychus. Which were that big.
It does not discover for the mana value of the spell, but for that creature toughness. I missreaded the card as well!
Can't wait for you to go over the pirate deck!!⚓️
I'm happy to see you guys are using a higher budget for upgrades ♡
Please go back to adding the “splurge” option for cards
Well if you have a Gishath deck already you basically only need the new cards and reprints you don't have. (and you can switch between pantlaza and gishath for dinosaur tribal.)
oh and upgrades you absolutely missed "Trapjaw Tyrant" that's a enrage "Reclaimation sage"
Silverclad ferociouidons is a very scary thing to block and let through.
Polyraptor.. the only reason thats not in the deck is Marauding raptor since that can cause a draw. but theres a fix with "Wrathful raptors" which is a win con with this draw combo
but the one upgrade missed bar none thats a absolute necessity is "Forerunner of the empire" it puts a dinosaur ontop of the deck then the next dino coming out could cheat it out.
most of those cards aren't in the video because they're just too expensive. Polyraptor alone is upwards of $26 with most of the others sitting above $10 a piece.
I've been calling it Pants Llama all week and I will not stop
Ixalan is the afterlife and that's why all the dinosaurs are there
Best advice. Take your gishath deck and strip the precon for parts.
I enjoyed this upgrade. I would try to find a way to add Lurking Predators & Garruk's Uprising
I am unreasonably excited for this deck!!!!
I just got mine in today. Plan to do some upgrades to it. Though, I'm surprised you didn't talk about the 3rd Commander option in this deck, Zacama. I'm also surprised you left Wayta in for the upgrades. She just feels like an auto-drop to me.
Preordered this as soon as they announced a dino procon for $35 and now it's creeping up to $70. Glad I locked it in when I did.
Same bro, I got it early because I told my friend who likes Dragons; "You know what's cooler than Dragons?... Dinosaurs!!! 🤣"
(They don't know what's coming to em)
Got this from my local lgs for $30, definitely lucked out. I love dinos but never thought I’d get the chance to play good ones for that cheap!
Would you guys run Kinjali's Suncaller, Priest of the Waking Sun, Wakening Sun's Avatar and the 2 OG Huatli's, Dinosaur Knight & Warriors Poet in the deck?
I personally don't like sion of calamity. It would be a lot better with trample. I'd personally use the sailback from March of the machine instead or the sail dinosaur from aftermath
Savage Order might be my favorite add for this deck because of the ability to cheat Ghalta, Stampede Tyrant out, thus allowing me to then put all other creatures in my hand out for free. Especially with Esper Sentinel, Thought Vessel, Reliquary Tower, & more card draw to stack up hella creatures in the hand first.
Jordan now needs some pants lava pants to go with his shirt
This is a great pre-con in all aspects.
Dinosaaaaurs. I pre-ordered this deck immediately
Super excited for the new set!
I won a game with Chandras ignition because both my opponents were at 12 or less and I had Galta and Mavren out 😊
I love Dino’s so this is going to be awesome now they just need to do a shark deck there is not enough sharks out there
Really excited about this deck because dinos are sweet. One of the guys in my pod had a Gishath that i played and played against and it was always underwhelming because it got removed 80% of the time before triggering. There's probably some protection or haste enablers that could make it more impactful but in general I think that is kinda just the card design/balance. This is to me seems more reliable value and less threatening as soon as it hits the board so you hopefully get more triggers
I dream of casting Gishath with Lightning Greaves ready to equip.
I saw 1 announced JP card would be in this deck and instantly pre-ordered.
Probably also getting the Naga one, both just seem right up my alley, in both flavour and playstyle
I've been playing my velociramptor deck with my own mods since it was released and i do have to say - *don't sleep on the enrage cards or their triggers* . I was fortunate to pull a Polyraptor in one my my boosters (i know this is on a budget) - you're going to want it though. If you're running bellowing aegisaur, those raptors are cloning and growing, if you're running Gishath as your commander and play verdant sun's avatar, you're going to be getting life like ted bundy on trial. Then you're swarming, ramping, so many triggers, uber life gain, even if you become a target, nobody wants to swing at you because you can block with your raptors and create more.. they'll board wipe you but you don't care, you're sitting on 80 hp and you get to deploy gishath again - or just ephemerate him out the way and get a new roster of free dinos there and then. If you simplify your goals to just hit the ground with haste and some mid-range attack power, you will get laserd down.
Bought this for it to be stripped and upgrade my Gishalth deck I'm so excited
Take a shot every time Jordan says Pantlaza wrong. 😂❤
No thanks, I want to live!
The people behind Jurassic park and Crichton made a gamble. They didn’t know about Utah Raptor at the time, it hadn’t been discovered yet but it was heavy theorized a predator matching the “Jurassic Park velociraptor” had existed. So they named it velociraptor and went on with the movie. After the movie was released they found the first Utah Raptor fossil.
Which is scarier than the Jurassic Park version btw
Runic Armasaur had me stuck discarding because I was getting cards faster than I could cast them lol.
Roaming Throne to make Pantlaza discover twice instead, Savage order to cheat out new Ghalta (& thus every other creature in hand), & Contest of Claws to remove a creature AND get off a potentially huge discovery for just 2 mana, are some of my favorite additions to this deck
Roaming Throne won't work since pantlaza's discover happens only once a turn
hunting grounds seems like a fantastic include here akin to sneak attack, cryptic gateway, and the monster journal
My Dino deck had 38 land and 39 Dinos. So this deck didn't surprise me in this deck
Shifting Ceratops I do like playing. Because there isn't too many reach or flying dinos
The reprints are insane. I had to check 3/4 different sources because I could not believe they printed Akroma's Will in to it.
I just bought this deck at $40 at my local LGS shop last night!
My highest recommendation is Nahiri's Resolve. Buffs, gives Haste and can blink your dinos. Burning Sun's Avatar can deal ETB damage again and can activate Pantlaza's Discover for 6. I know Pantlaza only works once for turn, but you can blink it to do it again!
Good catch.
So many sets so close to each other, so many good cards slipping through cracks.
Lazer pants is bomb I think I might have found my first pre-con/ commander deck
What's the power level before and after upgrades plus I think I'd add gurruks uprising just because
Wayta could also work with Vrondiss and Wrathful Red Dragon!
I'm really surprised polyraptor wasn't mentioned. You'd have to be careful not to cause a deadlock with marauding raptor because the trigger is forced/automatic for both. But If you swap out Marauding raptor for Polyraptor (CMC 8), cards like Belligerent Brontodon (CMC 7), Imposing Vantasaur (CMC 6), or Looming Altisaur (CMC 4) be paired against it by Wayta and get two more 5/5's per turn for one Green.
Toss in a 'Green Ward' or 'Shield of Duty and Reason' for one White each on the creature you want to have the Polyraptor fight and you could have twice as many 5/5's per turn as you have green mana free per turn.
Ahhh I wish I would have gotten this for the preorder price! It’s only gonna go up
I'm kinda sad we didn't get a new Gishath. Don't get me wrong, I love the new art, but I was hoping we got a new version of him if he's going to be in the main set
I tend to play more and more big creatures with cycling in tribal decks to solve bad hands/draws. Yidaro and titanoth rex might be interesting
“Painharmonicon” oh you cheeky buddy.
besides the 10 cut card suggested, what would you remove to add bonehead dracosaur and gishath?
Mirari's Wake is an absolute MUST for this deck btw
I like how the archidekt ad makes it look like you all live in one house together lol
Bronzebeak might be my favorite card from this set and i might just get a bunch of them as just general white removal cause that life gain send to graveyard second mode seems like such a good insurance policy to prevent people from killing it cause if your holding up mana anyways you can make sure they dont get there thing back out of spite
I’m surprised y’all didn’t include any ixilan cards in the adds. I pulled an enchantment that says whenever i discover, instead discover, then discover again
I guess the idea was to keep pantlaza as commander, but I'd suggest looking into switching it with the new Huatli poet of unity: ramps at turn 3, turn 4 you can transform it and from there on, if they can't remove it before the third counter, you just roll over any board.
Do you have a deck list I can look at for this?
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[COMMANDER]
1 Huatli, Poet of Unity // Roar of the Fifth People
[PLANESWALKERS]
1 Domri, Anarch of Bolas
1 Lukka, Bound to Ruin
[CREATURES]
1 Ixalli's Lorekeeper
1 Dinosaur Egg
1 Drover of the Mighty
1 Marauding Raptor
1 Otepec Huntmaster
1 Kinjalli's Sunwing
1 Sunfrill Imitator
1 Topiary Stomper
1 Tranquil Frillback
1 Wayward Swordtooth
1 Bronzebeak Foragers
1 Curious Altisaur
1 Hulking Raptor
1 Bonehoard Dracosaur
1 Pantlaza, Sun-Favored
1 Quartzwood Crasher
1 Regisaur Alpha
1 Scion of Calamity
1 Swooping Pteranodon
1 Temple Altisaur
1 Wrathful Raptors
1 Earthshaker Dreadmaw
1 Ravenous Tyrannosaurus
1 Regal Behemoth
1 Trumpeting Carnosaur
1 Etali, Primal Conqueror // Etali, Primal Sickness
1 Ghalta and Mavren
1 Rampaging Brontodon
1 Tyrranax Rex
1 Ghalta, Stampede Tyrant
1 Gishath, Sun's Avatar
1 Wakening Sun's Avatar
1 Apex Altisaur
1 Zacama, Primal Calamity
1 Ghalta, Primal Hunger
[ARTIFACTS]
1 Sol Ring
1 Arcane Signet
1 Lightning Greaves
1 Progenitor's Icon
1 Chimil, the Inner Sun
[INSTANTS]
1 Path to Exile
1 Entish Restoration
1 Akroma's Will
1 Return of the Wildspeaker
[SORCERIES]
1 Triumphant Chomp
1 Farseek
1 Rampant Growth
1 Cultivate
1 Savage Stomp
1 Chandra's Ignition
1 Rishkar's Expertise
[ENCHANTMENTS]
1 Utopia Sprawl
1 Cream of the Crop
1 Up the Beanstalk
1 Descendants' Path
1 Garruk's Uprising
1 Growing Rites of Itlimoc // Itlimoc, Cradle of the Sun
1 Rhythm of the Wild
[BATTLES]
1 Invasion of Zendikar // Awakened Skyclave
[LANDS]
1 Arch of Orazca
1 Brushland
1 Canopy Vista
1 Cinder Glade
1 Clifftop Retreat
1 Command Tower
1 Evolving Wilds
1 Exotic Orchard
6 Forest
1 Fortified Village
1 Furycalm Snarl
1 Game Trail
1 Jungle Shrine
1 Kessig Wolf Run
1 Mossfire Valley
1 Mosswort Bridge
3 Mountain
1 Myriad Landscape
1 Path of Ancestry
3 Plains
1 Rockfall Vale
1 Rogue's Passage
1 Secluded Courtyard
1 Sungrass Prairie
1 Temple of the False God
1 Thriving Bluff
1 Thriving Grove
1 Thriving Heath
1 Unclaimed Territory
Rachel saying “now let’s talk about Diiiiiinosaurs” is the best. Had me crackin’ up. 😂
I am new to Commander with a little of bit Magic play on line but I am pre-ordering this deck!
Best precon name confirmed.
Imma just say this choose your weapon, gisela, blade of goldnight, twinferno with a 10/10 or bigger on the board alongside that akromas will or chandras ignition..... Ive done it twice this week
Edit: i took out some of the "if dino was dealt damage or etb deal dmg to your creature stuff" stuff and put in older cascade dinos and 2 angels Aurelia and obviously gisela and elesh norn,MoM for reasons........ Also gishath with akromas will and choose your weapon, and Aurelia on the battle field as well
Oh if you liked the movie for Killers of the Flower Moon and the “crime podcast” aspect of it, you have NO IDEA what you’re missing out on from the book. The movie spoiled the whole mystery from the get go. Read the book, it’s so much more mind blowing of a reveal/expose
Put in Dinosaurs On A Spaceship just for the funnies!!! LMAO!
Great Additions and lovly atmosphere as always! ❤ but Runic Armasaur is gread I think in this deck, potential card draw and 5 Discovering is pretty decent imo.
20:30 The other pre-cons are going for that price. Unfortunately this deck has a massive premium on it and is about $75, and I think that is an important point that should have been mentioned (as this video is only a day old).
I really wanted just this deck, but was not going to spend that kind of money on it. The bundles of all 4 decks still is going at the normal rate though, so I spent extra to get that. Of course if this had been the normal price I wouldn't have done that, so WotC wins by getting extra money from me.
Some great cards to add to my Atla Palani Jurrasic Park deck
Crazy how fast the prices change
Josh reading his imaginary watch, 17:57
You could also play Zacama with this deck
He comes in it!