First Crash of an Airbus A330 - Airbus Industries Flight 129

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  • Опубликовано: 16 авг 2023
  • Video of the crash of an Airbus A330-321 when it was performing its test flight in Toulouse, France. Subscribe, like, comment and share for more videos!
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  • @irasemamendez95
    @irasemamendez95 4 месяца назад +21

    My opinion is that mornings are the best time for tests, the brain and body are fresh and not tired, that's what happened to the captain , he had a long day ,mentally he was tired😢 thanks Mauricio for your videos in English

  • @mitseraffej5812
    @mitseraffej5812 3 месяца назад +23

    5:10 “32 degrees nose up” Nearing retirement after a life of airline flying I have never seen a pitch angle this high outside of the simulator.

    • @austindarrenor
      @austindarrenor 3 месяца назад +1

      I don't get why you would turn control of the aircraft over to autopilot after losing an engine. That's the last thing I would want to do.

    • @mitseraffej5812
      @mitseraffej5812 3 месяца назад +1

      @@austindarrenor Actually getting the automatics engaged is quite high on the list of the priorities in an engine out situation, it frees up a bit of brain space.

    • @austindarrenor
      @austindarrenor 3 месяца назад

      @@mitseraffej5812Yeah, I could see that. I guess the big mistake wasn't choosing the autopilot but the altitude that made the plane pitch up and fall sideways. Ouch.

    • @austindarrenor
      @austindarrenor 3 месяца назад

      It sounds like you've been flying for many, many years. The first time I flew somewhere I was four yrs old. It was on an SAS DC-7 from LAX to CPH. 1960. I still have vivid memories of the flt 😃

  • @ardek31
    @ardek31 3 месяца назад +9

    It's not Captain Wagner but Warner. I also would like to mention the name of the first officer, Michel Caïs, who was not initially rostered on this flight. There was no internet in 1994 and I discovered his name on a paper that we all had on our desk, the following morning after the accident, to announce us the loss of our colleagues. 😢 RIP Michel.

  • @ranchopatriot
    @ranchopatriot 3 месяца назад +17

    How about simply aborting the test at the first sign of abnormality?

  • @peterebel7899
    @peterebel7899 3 месяца назад +7

    A) why so many people on the second ever flight with critical maneuvers on the schedule?
    B) Height is your friend - even a test pilot's best friend .....
    C) how was the auto pilot performing in the very same test in simulators? Did they even run this test first in a simulator?
    D) Yes, be fresh when you are going to request 100% of your own performance!
    There was a lot to learn out of the loss of by far too many lives!

    • @Imk946AO
      @Imk946AO 3 месяца назад +2

      You are right; as test flights must have essential flight crew only onboard.

  • @JOHSONH
    @JOHSONH 9 месяцев назад +5

    El sabio aerenautico internacional excelente reconstrucción bendiciones saludos cordiales desde tacoma💯🇺🇲✈️

  • @heinzklinckwort2958
    @heinzklinckwort2958 3 месяца назад

    Great video, thank you !!! 🙏

  • @davestevens4193
    @davestevens4193 3 месяца назад +6

    Aviate. Navigate. Communicate. Forgot to keep air under the wings.

  • @dominichamel4685
    @dominichamel4685 3 месяца назад +17

    So in essence, a fatal flaw was uncovered in this test flight. Most failures don't occur at desired altitudes to permit the required time to recover. The test pilots were not at fault for this, rather they were victims of a flawed system. My condolences to their families

    • @briancarno8837
      @briancarno8837 3 месяца назад +5

      If the test pilots could not control this and they knew it was going to happen...what chance would a crew have if it happened out of the blue?....The crew died in the name of improving airline safety as many before them did

    • @mitseraffej5812
      @mitseraffej5812 3 месяца назад +1

      @@briancarno8837The greatest risk to average Joe airline pilot is dying from boredom.😂

    • @mitseraffej5812
      @mitseraffej5812 3 месяца назад +3

      @@bayouflier6641 According to the video Airbus made changes to the A330 systems as a result of this accident, so I guess there must have been something wrong with the original.

    • @dominichamel4685
      @dominichamel4685 3 месяца назад +2

      @@bayouflier6641 everyone knows altitude is life. I'm pretty sure they wouldn't have been selected as test pilots if they were incompetent, but yes, after watching the video again, they made poor choices. My comment was based on the auto pilot flaw, so yes, there was definitely a problem with the aircraft, reinforced by the fact changes were made to the system. Call me ignorant if you want

    • @wallacegrommet9343
      @wallacegrommet9343 3 месяца назад +2

      The pilots were too bold, and there are no old, bold pilots. 2,000 feet altitude, man, what egos !

  • @user-bu1oe7kg9x
    @user-bu1oe7kg9x 2 месяца назад +3

    With all due respect to the comments below, I believe NO test flight of any kind to be conducted at such low altitude ,in that case 2000', that's deadly.

  • @andrewnielsen3178
    @andrewnielsen3178 2 месяца назад +2

    My reaction would be that after the wing dropped full TOGA and manual recovery with down stick and right rudder.

  • @billolsen4360
    @billolsen4360 3 месяца назад +3

    The pilots sure didn't know their aircraft

  • @zube2007
    @zube2007 2 месяца назад +1

    Sometimes I wonder if some pilots think that laws of physics or aerodynamics do not apply to them. Several instances of wing stall because of low speed and/or nose too high in B52, C17, C130, ATR accidents where it was essentially pilot overconfidence or error at really low height.

  • @cogitoergospud1
    @cogitoergospud1 2 месяца назад +1

    *Airbus Salesman to Alitalia “That’ll buff out.”

  • @alfredodobes8465
    @alfredodobes8465 3 месяца назад

    Nice video game, like real.

  • @TheRealNatNat
    @TheRealNatNat 9 месяцев назад +44

    can only guess that Alitalia opted for Boeing after that one...

    • @MPCFlights
      @MPCFlights  9 месяцев назад +11

      Indeed, they got the 767

    • @maltheartist_aviation
      @maltheartist_aviation 5 месяцев назад +5

      ⁠@@MPCFlightsyep, they most definitely learned their lesson, if the plane that you are soon to buy crashes, do not buy it. your airline would probably go defunct, or something along the lines of that

    • @hughrexon900
      @hughrexon900 3 месяца назад +2

      I was thinking exactly the same thing.

    • @asiyashahid2115
      @asiyashahid2115 3 месяца назад +1

      Rip alitalia they retired

    • @albertola100
      @albertola100 3 месяца назад

      Them its a flag game 4 Boeing millioneres un std os Airbus millionares.People suporting rich people busssiness with a flag behind 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

  • @GregSr
    @GregSr 3 месяца назад +4

    I didn't see any effort to use the rudder to offset the loss of thrust from the left engine. In the USAF pilot training, the crews were always reminded to "step on the good engine' when dealing with differential thrust. When dealing with the loss of an engine, some crashes occurred because the pilot stepped on the wrong rudder pedal increasing the yaw and losing control of the aircraft.

  • @miathefuturepilot
    @miathefuturepilot 2 месяца назад

    This took place on my bday but about 16 years before I was born.

  • @jacekmarczyk4436
    @jacekmarczyk4436 2 месяца назад

    So, how was Airbust changed forever???

  • @haiwatigere6202
    @haiwatigere6202 3 месяца назад +1

    I flew a330 kl to Perth the other day.
    This must have been embarrassing!

    • @57Jimmy
      @57Jimmy 3 месяца назад +1

      Not for long!😵

  • @maximomiglionico430
    @maximomiglionico430 3 месяца назад +2

    I thought the A330's first crash was Air France 447

    • @Tpr_1808
      @Tpr_1808 3 месяца назад

      It was the most fatal but both were by pilot error

  • @57Jimmy
    @57Jimmy 3 месяца назад +1

    Geeze, not even at 2000’ in a huge, heavy aircraft and they tried this stupid test?
    There was another crash with a smaller Airbus trying to finish off tests at 5000’ and still stuffed it into the drink!
    I wouldn’t try that in a Cessna at 2000’!

  • @warungmaduracakmus
    @warungmaduracakmus 2 месяца назад

    The first accident ever of the type.. by it's own manufacturer...

  • @marquesdean5075
    @marquesdean5075 2 месяца назад

    I always what happened with this particular accident, especially as far as the aircraft’s attitude (roll,pitch,yaw). Another case of too low and too slow. R.I.P. to the victims and families affected.

  • @yaaratheexploratrice5800
    @yaaratheexploratrice5800 2 месяца назад

    Game name pls 🙏

  • @markcardwell
    @markcardwell 2 месяца назад

    Scarebus. There's a reason. RIP

  • @ilonakrassenbaum-stamm9457
    @ilonakrassenbaum-stamm9457 3 месяца назад +1

    What is this fora game please 😊😊😊😊😊😊

  • @tsuchan
    @tsuchan 3 месяца назад +6

    I felt kind of cheated by this video.
    - No voice commentary
    - Clickbait claim "changed avaiation for ever", but that tends to be the same for all crashes. It's called "implementing lessons learned".

    • @ZnamManz
      @ZnamManz 3 месяца назад

      You aren't gonna get a voiceover every video bud. :/

  • @daktarioskarvannederhosen2568
    @daktarioskarvannederhosen2568 4 месяца назад +1

    how many a330 items have crashed in total?

    • @briancarno8837
      @briancarno8837 3 месяца назад +3

      I think the air france crash from rio was a 330...but that was pilot error.. Delta have been using the 330 for years

    • @chahidabdelmjid5653
      @chahidabdelmjid5653 3 месяца назад

      Total 4

  • @masks4youmeiners799
    @masks4youmeiners799 2 месяца назад

    The fault was that the pilot made the test to near to the ground

  • @gavinn5492
    @gavinn5492 2 месяца назад

    pilots completely responsible for a totally avoidable crash ... 100% blame on them

  • @PeterBezemer
    @PeterBezemer 3 месяца назад

    Test pilots not monitoring speed...

  • @thud1015
    @thud1015 3 месяца назад

    The aircraft should be in Thai livery

  • @mrtomdorn
    @mrtomdorn 4 месяца назад +3

    How stupid.

  • @rogerbloom5629
    @rogerbloom5629 2 месяца назад

    This video misses the smoking gun!! Did Airbus edit the text? Airbus stall and attitude protections in this model “disappear “ momentarily during autoflight altitude capture mode. The autopilot was set to capture 2000 ft. Momentarily all protections were lost. I believe Airbus changed this. Funny this video just blames the pilots

  • @BigEightiesNewWave
    @BigEightiesNewWave 3 месяца назад +2

    Absence of attitude protection in the autopilot's altitude capture mode;
    Uncertainty in allocation of tasks between the captain and co-pilot; the co-pilot rotated the aircraft "firmly and very fast" to a takeoff attitude of more than 25°, compared with the usual 14.5° used for the first, successful takeoff;
    The captain carried out test procedures immediately after takeoff: autopilot engage, throttling back the left engine, and tripping the hydraulic circuit breaker; this took him temporarily "out of the piloting loop."
    Lack of visual indication of autopilot mode, obscured by the extreme pitch attitude;
    Crew overconfidence in expected aircraft response. YIKES, AB "LOGIC" strikes again!

  • @douglasthompson2740
    @douglasthompson2740 2 месяца назад

    That looks like a 'Boeing' maneuver. Why would would you not go to 15 thousand and do the engine out for a first go round? Then if it was successful and no problems, major or minor were noted the process could be repeated at lower altitudes progressively. Most especially as this was not a test of the test pilots but one of the airplane. What was important here was how the plane functioned, something that could have been tested at altitude just as well as right off the ground. Seems a loss of cockpit resource management big time. The pilot may or may not have been tired even if he was the others should have called him on it. I am assuming this was a planned maneuver reviewed in the flight plan and discussion before take off. It would be very irresponsible to have pulled it unannounced in a new and unproven plane!! As a test bed there should have been a myriad of instrumentation not least of which would be a cockpit voice recorder. It would have been interesting to hear and see the inputs. It just sounds like a cowboy stunt that needlessly killed the occupants.

  • @ricktownsend6979
    @ricktownsend6979 3 месяца назад +1

    I do not think the A330 had winglets back then…

  • @leoferreyra8606
    @leoferreyra8606 3 месяца назад +1

    CVR last recorded words... "oh F-WWKH !!!"

    • @Sweetlyfe
      @Sweetlyfe 3 месяца назад

      I noticed that hilarious registration number too.

  • @BigEightiesNewWave
    @BigEightiesNewWave 3 месяца назад +1

    The thrust reversers are only activated if the first condition is true. There is no way for the pilots to override the software decision and activate either system manually.
    In the case of the Warsaw accident, neither condition was fulfilled, so the most effective braking system was not activated. Because the plane landed inclined (to counteract the anticipated crosswind), the required pressure of 12 combined tons on both landing gears necessary to trigger the sensor was not reached. The plane's wheels did not reach the minimum rotation speed because of a hydroplaning effect on the wet runway.
    Only when the left landing gear touched the runway did the automatic aircraft systems allow the ground spoilers and engine thrust reversers to operate. Because of the braking distances in the heavy rain, the aircraft could not stop before the end of the runway. The computer did not actually recognize that the aircraft had landed until it was already 125 meters beyond the halfway point of Runway 11.
    Airbus LOGIC knew better.😪

  • @BrokebackBob
    @BrokebackBob 3 месяца назад +1

    So how many Boeing 767s did they buy? Did Airbus bother to pay for the funerals out of the development budget?

    • @Tpr_1808
      @Tpr_1808 3 месяца назад +1

      It wasn't their fault it was the pilot's

  • @AeiKei
    @AeiKei 3 месяца назад

    Airbus got it wrong with the A321 aswell, took time to fix it

  • @flyingtigerline
    @flyingtigerline 4 месяца назад +3

    I'll take a Douglas DC-7C, if you don't mine.

    • @jayreiter268
      @jayreiter268 3 месяца назад +1

      The best 3 engine aircraft they made

  • @chandrachurniyogi8394
    @chandrachurniyogi8394 3 месяца назад

    the A330-300 ain't a clean sheet design . . . it's heavily based on the A300-600 wide body jet . . .

    • @Tpr_1808
      @Tpr_1808 3 месяца назад

      Even the a330-200 and all a340s

  • @merlesmith6794
    @merlesmith6794 3 месяца назад

    Airbus is making a killing

  • @Buster-motorbike
    @Buster-motorbike 3 месяца назад

    Fundamental cause - it's an Airbus. Designed to confuse the heck out of trained and experienced pilots. I won't get in one.

    • @hepphepps8356
      @hepphepps8356 3 месяца назад

      Statistics says otherwise.
      Boeings are falling out of the skies with design flaws, but the FBW airbuses hasn’t really had 1 accident in almost 40 years were the core cause was a design problem.

    • @gminix
      @gminix 2 месяца назад +2

      …. We you a Boeing fanboy? Because I wouldn’t speak too loud at the moment…

    • @Canleaf08
      @Canleaf08 2 месяца назад +1

      And Boeing is better????

    • @petrolhead9702
      @petrolhead9702 2 месяца назад +1

      If it's Boeing I ain't going😂

    • @rx3dn
      @rx3dn 2 месяца назад +1

      Wait until he realises that alone the 737 has more crashes than Airbus ever had

  • @BigEightiesNewWave
    @BigEightiesNewWave 3 месяца назад +1

    Remember, Airbus' computer "logic" knows better than any pilot, EVER. There have been several horrendous crashes R/T their LOGIC.

    • @jjaus
      @jjaus 3 месяца назад +4

      You didn't read the cause of the accident.

  • @philipbennett4208
    @philipbennett4208 3 месяца назад

    Of course no video, only simulations

  • @BigEightiesNewWave
    @BigEightiesNewWave 3 месяца назад

    Air Inter Flight 148 Lufthansa Flight 2904 Airbus Industrie Flight 129 Air France 447 have ALL joined the chat to show how logical, Airbus LOGIC is.

    • @Canleaf08
      @Canleaf08 2 месяца назад +1

      AF447 was pilot error. Reminding about the rudder misfunctions of the 737

    • @rx3dn
      @rx3dn 2 месяца назад +1

      Air France 447: Pilot Error
      Deutsche Lufthansa Flight 2904: Pilot Error
      Air Inter Flight 148: Pilot Error
      Airbus Industrie Flight: Pilot Error
      What about Boeingn LOGIC though?

  • @dwightmcqueen5771
    @dwightmcqueen5771 3 месяца назад

    French never where very smart

    • @BigEightiesNewWave
      @BigEightiesNewWave 3 месяца назад

      Well, they do not like to be criticized by even expert test pilots. See this video...
      Airbus Test Pilot:“We have built an aircraft that Pilots cannot crash!”

    • @doctorshawzy6477
      @doctorshawzy6477 3 месяца назад +1

      were

    • @wadehiggins1114
      @wadehiggins1114 3 месяца назад

      WERE

    • @Canleaf08
      @Canleaf08 2 месяца назад

      And the Americans???

    • @docteurgreene
      @docteurgreene 2 месяца назад

      comme ta mère...

  • @dmimcg
    @dmimcg 3 месяца назад +1

    Biden school of flying.