Remember "Censorship" in Genshin Impact?
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- Опубликовано: 31 янв 2023
- It may have been called censorship and in many ways looked like censorship but at this point can we really still call it that? Genshin Impact has not slowed down with revealing characters much worse off than the targets for these changes over a year ago.
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Actually I was cooking pizza 👀💅
me too!
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btw didnt they like move their HQ to singapore so they can avoid some of the annoying chn laws for these reasons etc atleast thats what i remember reading about when this change happend
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The way that Mihoyo had to push out 'coverup' skins early on the CN server because the redesign skins were't finished yet indicates that there was definitely some sort of SARFT censorship pressure involved. The fact that they mainly went after the characters that had featured in print ads and had no followup indicates that like most SARFT censorship, it was entirely arbitrary and was the result of some administrator's whim.
At least we got some neat skins from that
ALLEGEDLY someone raised the “issue” of the 4 character's skin to government and Mihoyo was pressured. Kinda like how WoW was censored because of "blood and gore", but you can find tons of Chinese film/TV with "blood and gore". So the censorship is very specific, which could possibly be explained by "someone raised this specific topic to government to censor stuff".
Ratheil is honestly just too busy trying to paint himself as "better" than everyone else by constantly painting the community as an unreasonable hysterical mob. It is obviously censorship if they had to have an emergency cover-up and Chinese players got no choice to pick the skin they wanted
@@ruifenghuang1029 It’s nothing more than the CCP posturing. That happened when the CCP was going on a streak of enforcing more regulations against gaming and tech companies in general.
I don't understand
There has been censoring since the very beginning. Ayaka and several other characters and NPCs used to have normal underwear on the CBT.
I think the reason why only 4 characters were affected by this is probably because MHY wanted to get the CCP to stop breathing down their necks in a way that took as little time and resources as they could get away with. Also, I nearly forgot how after this some people thought Ningguang's shoulder blades were censored on her Lantern Rite costume but it turned out to be a shader issue that was quickly fixed.
That ningguang thing was kinda funny tbh
I was on a datamining group back when it happened and the original texture for her back doesn't have the shoulder blades and i guess they're depending on the shaders to make her shoulders appear. Of course that didn't worked so they painted the blades onto the texture.
I don't believe it was the CCP itself that was behind it. While it may be hearsay, I heard some moralistic group over there was going around complaining about things. So Mihoyo probably changed those four, told them 'see we changed them!', and the group believed they had won then went on to go harass someone else, with Hoyo correctly knowing the group didn't actually pay attention to their game. While the CCP wasn't involved yet, it potentially would have been if the harassment group had kept going.
@@brycearmstrong9370 I remember articles and interviews stating that government regulations were the source of the changes, but the IDK how accurate the translations were. It is also possible that toxic fans might have been behind the demands. There have been changes to HI3 due to some unhinged individuals on the CN server, including the cancellation of the global server's 3rd anniversary event, and those sorts of people probably have a similar presence in Genshin's CN community as well (though this is pure speculation).
@StrawberryStar The number of characters affected by the censorship was 4. I never said anything about their rarity.
i think there were two *specific* “issues” that they had to fix: jean and amber had visible cleavage, and mona and rosaria had prominent emphasis on their butts. if you know anything about chinese censorship, you’ll know that it’s often inconsistent and the rules about what has to be censored are quite arbitrary.
however xinyan does have some cleavage showing and she hasn’t been censored… so it’s possible my theory is wrong. or just nobody cared enough about xinyan for her to be censored.
there are rumors baizhu will also be getting a new skin in much the same manner… maybe whatever they do with him will shed some light on what hyv feels needs updating.
Xinyan was most likely not changed as she isn't a prominent character in the game.
i heard its because some chinese sjw reporting things to china govt. those sjw got hounded by the playerbase and got mental health issue.serve her right. people play and do their own stuff peacefuly and then shes come out looking for a war.
Tbf we got candace, nilou and now dehya
All 3 definetly expose more then the 4
Raiden too
@@jiyghkjsduhjkbkb Nor are Rosaria or Mona.
Raiden has the most cleavage in the game and she's arguably the most popular character from the game and an enormous part of the main story.
@@Dafydd4 Well they have been changing Rosaria since launch and all of the characters they have changed are mondstat so theres that mystery solved.
yes. this is a disgusting act of censorship. Retroactively changing characters in cutscenes, making new censored costumes default. And how the ruined Rosaria and Mona as especially bad. This is a reason why i'll never play any other Mihoyo's game
I would love to see Childes skin. Not only he's the only playable Snezhnayan character so far which can show us some Snezhnayan designs, but also him having a Delusion just screams a potential. Imagine having purple hydro effect (cause I doubt the skin would change element). That would look so cool. And its already kinda in a game in his boss fight. Come on, Hoyo.
Ah, yes. He also travels a lot. So that opens up skins with designs from other regions too. No need to force it like with Ayaka (no offence, Ayaya stans)
Hopefully when we get to Snezhnaya he'll get a new skin with a warmer outfit, since his current one doesn't look like it's suited for cold weather at all
I think he will get the skin when we get closer to the snezhnaya
... or they add a special Elemental Burst to the alt and we get Tartagalia mode... that would be f-ing awesome, we would get a genshin impact version of Dant-ergil Sparda...
Not gonna happen coz Snezhnayan designs will take time . Maybe around 4.x updates
My theory has always been that some Chinese politician started rattling their saber, and rather than contend with possible backlash or having them look into it more, they changed the characters that were complained about before they would look into it more. It's worth noting that VERY soon after, Mihoyo became "Cognosphere," officially based in Singapore, so they wouldn't be subjected to this sort of oversight.
And I do like old Rosaria better.
Everyone likes old Rosaria
First off, its still Mihoyo. Cognosphere is literally just a publishing house for Global. Secondly, no its not the politician, if you think the politician have the time to look up shit like these you are either deranged or have some serious issue with your view on the Chinese... its just overzealous parents complaining.
@@EricChien95 I believe mihoyo actually is officially hoyoverse now. And I agree with OP that the timing and change in location to HQ located outside of China points to backlash from some Chinese company/govt agency/parent club etc. Likely a combination of things.
Side note: hoyo did us dirty with the square neckline on Rosaria's new outfit. RIP
If you think they haven't continued to censor the characters, you're naive.
@@aayyyooooo Completely incorrect. They did not change their headquarters, it's still located in Shanghai and their name is still Mihoyo. They opened an office in Singapore and made the brand Hoyoverse solely for overseas distribution. CN version of the game is still branded as "by Mihoyo" and the game is still developed in their headquarters in Shanghai. It's not that difficult to understand.
No one likes Censorship. A good amount of people pull and play characters just because they are attractive and those players matter too
I prefer Jean’s new and Rosaria’s old. I think it was a case of censorship and retouching old designs. Amber, Jean, and Mona certainly got improvements in details and general thought to their outfits.
I prefer old Mona much more
Because reasons. Ekhm.
and downgraded jiggle physics...
Honestly i would’ve loved Mona’s skin but something about the colors bother me, i think they could’ve done alot better with her because the darkish purple with the blue just doesn’t appeal very well to me, but it seems to mostly just be me so 🤷♀️
I love Monas and jeans new skin. Maybe it’s cuz I’m a sucker for the lill shorts she has on and the thighhighs. Maybe it’s that o//0
@@devolays wow, that's very typical.
Honestly as an avid mona user, I think the new outfit is clunky and distracting while her old is cohesive and sleek. That's why i haven't changed it.
I've never understood the obsession with "showing skin", there is way more to sexualisation than how much skin is shown.
I think most people can agree Shenhe or Mona's designs are far more "fanservicy"/sexualised than Candace or Cyno, who show far more skin.
Jean's OG outfit isn't sexualised because she shows a lil cleavage, it's sexualised because it sticks to her body like it might as well be bodypaint, which the new skin doesn't even really change lmao.
If I had to pick the most sexualized outfit, I'd say it's Ganyu. Her outfit is very skintight and has barely anything that covers it. (I'm not complaining though) But I can see how some people would see it as problematic and I'm surprised it hasn't been censored.
I just want all doors to be open. I want them to be able to have the option of doing what they want, which gives people what they want.
Who cares anyways? There you have Al Haitham with a 6 pack who was just released
@@ChristianDoretti it tooks itto's nerfed arms tho to get there
It's a game with fictional characters. I think there's a lot more real life people that showed their skin more than they need to.
Now I want an Itto skin that is him using Rosaria's outfit.
Edit: On who I wish would get skins, I wish all the starter 4* got them first. We all get them, might as well all of them have something nice. Now that Lisa is out of that bucket list(with a gourgeous skin), we need a Kaeya and an Amber(this time, with a different design) skin.
Hell yes to this one.
Our free og 4-stars deserve some love!
heard/seen a very popular leak of kaeya's skin
For Amber there is already the design from the manga so they would not even need to create a new design. Really hope they release the collabe skin for Hu Tao when Fontaine comes out. It would fit with that setting!
If they ever put a Childe's outfit that's similar to the one he's wearing on the fatui cinematic, or a Zhongli's one where he's wearing that extremely cool godly design that he shows up in the azdaha cutscenes, I'd be extremely happy. Not happy enough to buy anything because this game is extremely expensive in my country, but I think that they deserve some love and style.
Kazuha & Beidou were in a car commercial & looked slick wearing modern clothing. Qiqi's ice cream outfit is incredibly cute. I'd love to see these skins in the game.
im sure most people said they prefer rosaria new skin just because they dont want to get cancelled
God censored rosaria looks so bad i feel like puking from my eyeballs everytime it shows up in a cutscene
I find it so odd that it's hard to find people who agree
She lost unique elements to her design like the stokings and the asymmetrical belts that looked lazily tied togheterin favour of two simple paralel belts
Her new leggings lack detail and are just black, they don't match her hair like the old ones
the white part of her top looks like a painted on baby bib
To the point around 8:20, it's not really easy to tell how this has/will impact designs, however, we do know Shenhe was changed the remove some semi-transparency on her outfit. Even Deyha, who you mentioned, got some very obscure minor removal to her hand-painted shadows as to not accentuate certain areas. I would also argue that no designs since these updates have been as in-your-face as Mona/Rosaria/Fischl.
Imo the game has still been censored. It's not a 'problem' per se, but it is a deliberate change in art direction that we've been forced to deal with. It very likely effects all new designs to some degree.
That reminds me. The change can also just be designing for a more general audience. They were probably still designing for a more niche audience like they have been doing for Honkai. Genshin has attracted a much wider audience and it would make sense to design for this broader audience.
it does, we will NEVER have female character designs like Original Jean, Beidou and Raiden, and the details have been toned down significantly, we will most likely never see a character as how as shenhe, they would most likely make the pants / thighs more baggy, with less details and with shadows covering the butt /boobs
the Barbara situation is funny bc the voice director for the eng dub confirmed that her current voice is how she was intented to sound like since the very beginning, but that something had gone wrong in the files and the old combat lines recordings had been put in the game instead
Yeah her new voice lines mimic her CN voice the closest, but her energetic, raspy voice was pretty cool.
Fischl's outfit was already censored from beta, it used to be even skimpier.
I would love to see Zhongli get his Archon war outfit as a new skin.
Iirc a mother's organization or smth specifically complained about the genshin characters that got censor skins. There's a bunch of videos from around that time where ppl who were keeping up w the CN community explain the details.
POV: you gambled for a waifu fighter, but devs changed them into masculine girls overtime gaslighting the outcry saying this was the original character
I personally prefer Rosaria's new costume over her old one.
When you read Rosaria's lore and that she's a rebelous nun, her new outfit showcases that much more effectively than the old one. The black/darker colors show off that lack of devotion to the Church, but to the point that the other nuns wouldn't cause a stink about it.
Her original outfit always reminded me of those "sexy Halloween" costumes and it made a rather serious, brooding character look tacky, or what you would see in parody. Something like that, I'd see a character like Lisa wearing (but not always) due to her highly flirtatious nature.
Although Rosaria's boobs should have stayed the same size, but that's an entirely different discussion.
I agree about the outfit but personally i think the less sexualised design and nerf makes her a better character. Its easier to take her seriously now and not just go full horndog mode over her.
I prefer her new costume to it's more Gothic looking it's blacker XD and I thought her assets were a bit too comically huge and pointy also I don't mind her nerfs. One thing I do like about her new costume is that it makes her butt look bigger which is a plus.
I have the absolute opposite opinion lol. I hate her new outfit. I understand the fishnets (and I LOVE them) but the covering of her shoulders is just insulting. I love her original design but I’m goth and like sexy nuns 🤷🏻♀️ and I like the corruption of catholic imagery 💀 Rosaria’s (original) outfit and Fischl’s are my absolute favorite outfits in the game. I love fishnets, black and white, and bat wings.
I like Rosaria much more with the new skin. It’s more coherent and bad ass. She looks like a assassin pirate with slightly nun-ish flare. And I mean it in a good way :)
It fits her lore and personality as you said.
(Wouldn’t have minded the fishnets or anything. The original design just had too many triangular pieces flapping around. Like she was wrapped in a festive banner. )
It should be a choice for everyone which one they prefer to use.
nah the new outfit just looks not right man
FYI, the CN censorship(for games in particular) does not monitor any new contents once the game is released, it reacts on reports. In Genshin's case, it was reported to the authority by certain women's rights group on Baidu Tieba, it was an organised compaign of cancel culture. Up to this point, this is all true n you can find the evidence online. The following is a hypothesis. If you look at the date and compare it to certain 'genshin killer''s release dates, and there are two release dates one for CN n one for Globle, on both instance there were scandal drama that hyped the community. Could this be a dirty PR move? Very much likely because there are track records of them bullying MHY in the past. Maybe in your eye MHY is a 'multi-billion doller' company, but to them MHY is a new, priviate, tiny, studio that only make games, whereas they are media monopolies. Ever wondered why the CN community hates genshin so so much? It's because they put so much money and effort on trying to let people NOT playing Genshin. In the end of the day, it is still so much cheaper to kill a game than to make one(and fail). They invented discrimination aginst genshin PLAYERS, which was exposed like 2 years ago, but hey, they owns the media (the non-political part). The truth is out there but they control the spread. So yeah. The best thing MHY did was moving it's HQ to Singapore, which give them leverage, basically threatened the CN gov to help them fending off those bullies. And that's why the censorship drama stopped.
Yes this what happened, they moved to Singapore and the censorship stoped
Their HQ is still in Shanghai,that Singapore company is their oversea publisher,CN still use the original mihoyo brand name，and DA WEI the ceo of mihoyo is the vice president of Shanghai Chamber of Commerce and a CCP member as well,he is kind of a government official,that is the reason why these feminist groups can't cancel the company
Only sane comment in the section. I followed CN SNS throughout this. The dominating theory was indeed that it was some other competiting company's PR move all along. CN censorship bodies don't have all that time of day, they only react on reports, and report-bombing could hurt MHY in complete arbitrary ways. But the ppl in the West will just throw their blames on censorship bc they have a preconceived notion of how CN gov works. The "move to Singapore" part was more or less to counteract certain putative blockades from the US so that they can keep publishing globally under a Singaporean publisher, and not be banned bc it's a Chinese publisher.
Da Wei is not a government official though. Shanghai Chamber of Commerce is not a governmental body, it's a civil org. It might sound like a governmental body, but it is not. To be a governmental official is hella hard and has to go through YEARS of work. If he's a governmental official he'd have no time working on his company from the ground up.
Teiba is notorius among Chinese netizen to be a very toxic place and have group hating and also antis breeding ground on games of course Genshin specificly is one of the big target alongside other popular chinese games.
I dont play Genshin but I feel sorry for all men of cultures who went through this
I do remember the censorship, because it's forced into all the cutscenes, and has affected character design since then. especially ridiculous, considering the evertale banners....(they're straight up lewds) I would actually be supportive of them toning it down. they do business in china so the lack of censorship is baffling.
I like Mona and Jean's added basic outfit options as much or more than what came in game launch, especially the more vivid blue colors on Mona's outfit. Amber's and Rosaria's I straight hate.
I personally like the alternate skins and think they are more refined designs. I couldn't care less about Rosaria's bust nerf because it just looks like Honkai Impact levels of exaggerated in her first iteration.
It's obvious they made them like that because they know what the target audience (male players want) you clearly don't like it because you are not part of it, if it werent for the BS in china, the designs in genshin would be made in such a way that people like you who are offended by fictional female characters would quit the game.
why do I know that? I don't know about any mature woman who gets so pissy about female sexualization in games, I have had a lot of gaming female friends and the more mature they are the more they like seeing sexy female designs as well as male ones
It's not "censorship". It's *CENSORSHIP*. There's no defense for a forced change that goes against the character designers original conception.
I bet you wouldn't be that happy if your beloved Itto starts to wear more clothes against your will.
He's saying genshin hasn't slowed down with revealing characters but he is judging what it means to be revealing from a westerner's perspective. Genshin youtubers and not doing enough research go hand in hand
There aren’t really many characters that I would say need a new outfit/redesign at this point except for one: Yanfei. It’s hard for me to take her seriously as a lawyer when she’s walking around with an exposed midriff and short skirt, even if her outfit highlights how she has scales all over her body.
And fischl
@@joeltoomer3332 i personally think fischl is fine, i've never really seen people thirst over the fact that fischl is wearing a lingerie and it would make sense story wise, she wants to be princess fischl and in an attemp to copy her she took random clothes and lingerie. Let's say that her clothes are financial friendly cosplay (as she is not rich), cause she's probably using her mom's.
have you seen any adepti conforming to your rules of clothing? starting from ganyu and human cloud retainer... guizong... and more-...
Amber's original skin has butt cheek creases. That's the only thing about her I think they wanted to change. As I've never used Amber, I didn't even notice this until inspecting both skins scanning for differences. Rosaria, they clearly just don't want to be hot, and I have no idea what compelled them to change Jean, though I do like her new skin.
I think these changes were forced on the CN server and we have the skin as an option . I'm not sure but thats what I remember hearing
Heyy, just wanted to mention that doing barbaras old voice started to hurt the VA so they changed it
It was plain old state censorship. Let's all call it what it is.
It also doesn't matter if some people are like "But I actually like these new costumes better!" That's not the point, state censorship is always bad, and condoning and defending it, because you for once happen to like the outcome, is a very slippery slope. Please let's not start with that.
It was good that people made at least some fuss about it, and I hope they don't stop in the future.
It definitely started as censorship, but Hoyoverse used it as an opportunity to update the designs, such as changing to bottom of Mona's hat to better reflect her astrological character, or giving Jean a more refined look. Since they moved the publisher to Cognosphere in Singapore, they no longer need to censor the game, as the Chinese rules only apply to games published in China.
It's censorship it's dumb to even question that it isn't
there was leaks back then for more characters getting changes, and it was all censorship related.
one of the images was ayaka, raiden shogun, yoimiya and kokomi with new outfits, covering up almost everything.
this change was going to happen in 2.5.
the leak text said:
“2.5 Beta has outfit changes to: Ganyu, Yoimiya, Ningguang, Raiden Shogun, and Xiao:
• Ganyu's back is covered and she has a top garment now (RIP body sock?)
• Yoimiya has no bandages, changed into kimono
• Ningguang's dress split has been lowered
• Beidou got a breast reduction
• Raiden's chest has been covered, ult animation changed (RIP booba sword)
• Xiao has no tattoos”
i was thinking about this the other day actually, and remembered i had these old leaks related to this :o
that leak was probably fake from some guy who wanted attention
@@tannen3339 or maybe it received such backlash that it wasn't implemented
Alternate title: Ratheil hates on Rosaria for 10 minutes.
I do agree that the colour balance with Rosaria's new skin was pretty off, considering her old one had an off-white pinkish hue that contrasted well without clashing too much with the black, and the magenta hue her fishnet stockings gave off didnt make her overly gaudy. Though it does frame her more as a nun, the sleeves were far too puffy and rounded for the "Sharp" aura she gave off. I guess many people commented how she looks nothing like a nun at all, but could hoyo just have given her more of a full skirt? Slits on the side are all fine, just something about her new leggings doesn't vibe well.
nothing about the new rosaria censored skin fits, it's supposed to be someone who is only associated to the church superficially, and that does not conform to it's dress code rules, the new outfit just looks like a caged lion who has a rebelious personality but still has to conform to most of the rules... it does not fit her at all, be it estetically or lore wise
I want Childe's winter outfit the most. Still love his original outfit though.
My favorite skin they made so far is Fischl's, mostly because it looks less like lingerie XD.
Diluc's seems a bit too costume-like for him. Too much red, would have preferred something from the manga.
I think Xingqiu and Xiangling should get skins, they are some of the most used characters after all and they could use an outfit update.
Venti's cape bothers me, it looks so plain, just a wall of green. I'd happily take a skin with no cape.
I like skins that make characters look more prettier, somehow this always happens with the lower rarity characters that were once super important for you maybe they also had cool things like the voice or the kit. I like the idea of everyone having equally pretty clothes, but if I can't afford it (which I often can't) ofc I'll prioritise collecting all the skins of my favourite characters, or at least the best looking skin from some new collection.
I think the older characters should get new skins first. It makes sense that Jean, Keqing, and Diluc were the first 5* characters to get premium skins and it's weird but not surprising to me that Ayaka is the first non-standard 5* to get a skin since she is regarded as Hoyo's favorite child. I'd like to see a new skin for Qiqi, but diegetically it kind of makes more sense for her appearance to never change. Maybe next lantern rite, who knows.
I think it’s also because Ayaka is a pretty old character design. She was introduced in the very first Genshin trailer along with Mondstadt characters for some reason
I think Ayaka got a skin because she had the longest banner so far and likely ever. So they know a lot of people have her. Meaning more people would be willing to buy the skin.
@@Neimykanani I think she was the 1st character they ever designed
am i the only one who watched this video and ended up even more convinced that it really was in fact censorship after all?
it doesnt help that Mihoyo at that time had outright stated that it is beholden to the chinese governments censorship regulations instead of making any effort to deny that this was censorship when they first released the skins.
personally i dont mind it much, but imo it seems pretty dumb to argue that it wasnt censorship given the context of how it happened and mihoyos own statements.
literally Mihoyos own words on hoyolab: *"Beloved travelers:We are sorry to announce that in order to comply with relevant regulation, we will be adjusting certain aspects of game performance and characters during the 2.4 version update on January 5th as well as the later 2.5 version update."*
I don't mind revealing female or male characters, as long as it adds to or exemplifies a character's personality and story, Jean was not one of those characters though and the half-bared chest was kinda out of place for an overworked leader of a knighthood (it was probably fan service though) so I like her new design a lot more.
how tho ? That is just normal cleavage in europe.
And I speak as an european woman. Heck some women wear things with even more cleavage and no one bat an eye.
The cleavage is literally the same as Amber
@@zakiandoh Yanfei is an adepti, as far as I remember all adepti don't wear clothes that blend in with humans.
Also the fact, I'm pretty sure humans don't care about what adepti wears due to their roles known as working for the geo archon.
Your western view of what a lawyer should like is not the same from every countries or ancient times period.
@@narudayo5053 I mean, when you used her hold skill, you literally got her chest waving in the camera. Probably why people complained and they changed basically just that part besides the colors. Hell, as soon as I saw that I pretty much never used Jean until I got her summer skin since she's wearing a real shirt
@@spyrothetimelord every girl character have their chest weaving by just walking 🙄
complaining a bout a female ''knight'' showing chest? you clearly are missing the point that it is a FANTASY ANIME game, have you seen many characters that wear armor as favonious knights that aren't low rank npcs or noelle? Kaeya, Eula, Amber (even after the nerf) , mika don't wear anything related to your views of what a knight should wear, why should they change that for jean?
Ever since I’ve seen the leaks, I’ve been so hyped for Kaeyas skin. Like he’s been my main since the beginning and his design is my favorite but I’ve been waiting for him to have a skin for YEARS now.
OWO???
I seem to remember about the time these character skins came out ther CCP was using Venti as a poster "child" of characters they do not want to see in media from that point on, the sort of femboy look and hoyo haven't seemed to release any more male characters like that for a while, Mika I guess kind of but he comes off more young than feminine. I'm in the camp though that genshin really needs some new character models to vary up the design types a bit more. Its been something like 6 models for a long time and surely they can afford to rig together some more variation.
It’s still funny to me that Signora isn’t censored at all… like AT ALL.. yes she might just be in cutscenes and such, but.. there is so much revealed.
When it comes to what skins I would want to see for characters, it would mainly be ones pulled from Artworks made for Some of the official Genshin Content. the most recent example I can pull from being the Genshin Concert Artworks, The outfits the characters are wearing in that artwork look SOOO good in my opinion, they're definitely flashy but just enough so to make them feel different to the ones you can only find as part of story events.
I Love FischL the way she looks, idc what others are saying
Of course I remember the censorship, especially the big instances that happened even before the CN outfit debacle.
During prerelease tests, we had a unique walking animation for Klee that was removed. Ayaka used to have regular underwear instead of those anti-incontinence granny diapers. Fischl's bottom piece used to cut off higher on her leg. Rosaria had bigger tits.
There are plenty of instances where characters get toned down. And I can live with that if none is used in official material. But that's where Rosaria suffered. In 1.2, she had her first in-game appearance before joining as a character in 1.4. During this time, her chest size was reduced, and I remind miHoYo of this betrayal in every general survey. And it's not about me wanting her with the original size, it's a matter of principal. They did it in post, not before.
If they do it once, they can do it again. So if I find a character visually appealing, there's always a chance that miHoYo will change it and potentially ruin that for me. And they keep removing things even now. Just look at Nahida's expressions during beta tests, which were reduced to the point of her looking almost lifeless in certain animations.
miHoYo doesn't communicate with the players, or allows for options in some cases. If they were to reinstate Klee's adorable strut, I'd pull for her in a heartbeat. But them removing it made me pass on her since her very first banner.
It was censorship, but the reason it's not happening anymore is because "Mihoyo" is now "Hoyoverse" and I believe they changed location from China to Singapore? I could be wrong but this what I remember from when it was still happening
since when is he getting bots
To me, the Rosaria change was the one that confused me the least. She’s associated with a church and was wearing fishnets lol I’m sure that caused issues for some people
welp, it's almost as if her original outfit showed that she isn't actually compelling to the churchs rules isn't it? ..............
The thing is, a big thing with these changes was *China*. And not too long after these changes were implemented was when the whole MiHoYo > HoYoVerse thing happened that included them moving their head offices out of China.
Personally, I have two theories:
Either the game was popular, constantly on the news and, for whatever reason, it ticked someone in the CCP off and, upon a cursory research that someone found issue with these 4 characters (maybe they're the only females that this legal person who doesn't play saw or something); in a vein not too unlike how back in the poké craze pastors and such would claim that pikachu, charizard and a few other popular mons had a "demonic design" or things to that effect while nowadays not even batting an eye at grimssnarl who is pretty much a demon
Another possibility is that these mandatory changes were just a scapegoat tactic by the CCP to cover up some other controversy that either was going on at the time or they feared could be exposed in the then near future; as tinfoil hat wearing as that may sound, it is actually something that happens fairly often as a means of damage control here in Brazil, so I wouldn't find it weird if other similarly corrupt countries (especially third world ones) would do the same
i was going through the characters skins after getting the new Lisa one and saw that Amber had other skin? But didnt noticed anything different other than the shirt color change lmao
It was censorship, hands down, for reasons many people already wrote in comments.
And as a Rosaria main I go for the original because it's the original. As for the same in League of Legends I go with the Traditional skins of Sejuani, Trundle and Karma.
“Unreasonably upset about arguably good changes” kinda contradicts itself. If it’s arguably good and people argue, they’re unreasonable because they don’t agree with you? That’s not what unreasonable means.
I’m pretty sure it was a stunt to make it look like the company was fully prepared to change for new censorship regulations in China, but because Hoyo actually really cares about their designs they made changes that were just different enough that it looked different to outsiders looking in (like possibly the government). For example, Jean’s new design implies that she’s wearing a long sleeved shirt, but when you check in game her armpits are still out and the only real change is that the very top of her chest is covered. I’m quite certain the reason the old designs are still available for anyone not on China servers is because Hoyo has no real desire to change their designs, they just want to do the bare minimum to make it look like they care about regulations.
There was another seperate event with new regulations around feminine male character designs. As great of a character as he is, I’m pretty sure that Itto’s design was another attempt to make it look like Hoyo was taking these regulations into account. He’s the only bulky male character we have, and even then he was originally just as slender as all the other tall males until changes were made.
Chinese censorship regulations are basically the opposite for male and female character designs. Women need to cover up, and men need to be bulky and easily distinguishable from the women, which is easily done by having more skin on display.
Comparing newer designs after the censorship to characters released before the censors, its obvious they toned down the designs on new characters to avoid being struck down later on. No , just because you find belly buttons hot doesn't mean the ccp classifies oversexualisation the same way. For ccp its asscracks , shading on the veg area and cleavage, and if you pay attention to the newer designs , they lack these features. Dehya had visible shading on her pants at one point , now its just a flat texture.
Don't be dumb , if it WASN'T censorship chinese players would keep the old skins instead of being forced to use the new one , they didn't just "wAnT tO uPdATe tHe dEsIgNs". Genshin youtubers man swear to god critical thinking not even once
This is what actually happened: ccp came for an inspection, they found those 4 specific characters problematic for the reasons stated , mihoyo changed their designs and forced the change on CN servers (even put up an ugly temporary skin that would cover the characters up very roughly). Afterwards, when designing new characters, they adhered more to the ccp guidelines. Again , us finding kuki and candace's designs extremely sexual or even fischl straight up being in a lingerie does not mean ccp feels the same way, and its very obvious WHAT they find problematic and since then , we stopped seeing these problematic things.
Nah man, this was 100% censorship. They do the exact same thing in Azur Lane.
I actively hate rosaria's old design. Nothing in her character story justifies a sexy nun Halloween costume for a design.
it WAS censorship, it was done because Tencent had gotten some chinese feminist and parents groups to complain to SARFT about Jean, Amber, Mona and Rosarai in particular, since they were so heavily used in advertising in China and hence were easy targets for ppl who never actually played the game but were simply paid protests.
This is why Mihoyo also swapped out the original outfits with the censored ones for a short while, but they reverted back to the original outfits now that the heat has gone away.
It wasn't because they were being investigated by the CCP, but only as a safety measure of self censorship, for a limited time to placate and avoid potential future legal trouble.
Its Censorship.
It has already been a year since! Wow time flies so fast.
I hate the changes and I even hate seeing them in cutscenes even if I can use the old costumes outside of cutscenes.
I think the fact that is was a very sudden patch to the game, that was permanent for Chinese servers in addition to a lot of rumors about the Chinese government breathing down Hoyo’s neck ect. lead a lot of people including myself to think this was just a quick “fix” to satisfy some official and keep Genshin alive in China. Idk what’s true or not but at this point I’m like, eh, if they’re optional who cares but it would have been nice if the Chinese players had the same options as the rest of the player base.
Too bad we can't toggle the old costumes back on during cutscenes. Would've really liked that option
@@leongt9699 yeah that definitely would have been a nice feature
@@leongt9699 that would automatically erase all my hatred towards the new costumes , FR
im so glad hoyo was understanding with barbaras va considering if the va kept up the voice could drastically affect her voice for the rest of her life
Personally, Rosaria's original outfit was so offputting to me that I completely refused to use her. So the new skin made her usable for me.
In the end, it's censorship, yes, that's it. 😑
I think I'd like skins for Xiangling and Noelle personally as I would like to have an upgraded look for them
But also torn between the Rosaria outfits bcs both have parts that I like more than the but in total I prefer neither of them and new look feels like a miss 🥲
I had completely forgotten about this since it really only happened once, and I was also not part of the community then. I was alarmed for a bit that it would spread to other things outside of Genshin impact, but once it became clear that it wouldn’t, the news sort of passed on
That 12 min domain run was fast af boi, beats my 25min average 🤣🤣
What happened was that a group of mother's lobbied the government and gave those 4 characters as examples that needed censorship, and so hyv obliged. People haven't complained since hence no new censorship of released characters. However, they did censor shenhe's belly button and changed yae's underwear in the released version as compared to the npc.
Source?
Did you pull this information out of your ass?
Because the decision to "censor" those characters wasn't because Chinese feminist or these mothers told mihoyo too, lmfao.
I think at the time a discussion was going on as to how to walk the line, between having revealing outfits that aren't offensive to younger audiences. Once Genshin's popularity exploded, I'm sure they wanted to explore making the brand more child friendly. These design changes were probably a jolt reaction, and they settled on what was acceptable in future designs...
I think it would be cool if characters got skins associated with their occupation. Like if every Knight actually had a standard armor or characters like Fischl and Bennett have a spin on the adventure’s guild outfit. Things like that could be fun in my opinion. It also makes sense that these characters have them. Sara and Heizou, Collei and Tighnari, etc.
"I don't like how it makes her look more like a nun." Says about the character that it an actual nun.
they’re gonna make heizou wear a jacket after he gets censorship
the one character i would want skins for is the traverler an outfit for every nation and special cases like the watatsumi islan uniform
Ppl said we in the west dont need to freak out cuz the changes came out as alternative costumes for got to mention the new changes WILL from there onward will be the ones shown in any and all cutscenes.
I still feel bad for ppl who have to do mona's quest after the changes.
when you burst with razor you get 1980's wolverine insted of wolf
Came back recently and don't have the option to switch to the old skins sadge
I loved the new skins, I feel like they definitely got the characters’ personality a bit more in the newer skins. The only one I don’t fully understand is Mona’s new leggings. As a Rosaria main, I love her new skin bc it at least sorta feels like it used to be a nun’s outfit, but it’s still sexy and heavily modified.
i think shes a nun by title only lol. like most peaople who goto church say they love jesus but moment they get out blast some christain music while purposly speeding up to hit God's animals on the road.
Yeah I feel roses first outfit is more rebellious towards the church and her new one is her coming around but still keeping that rebellion
@@devinperson242 how is it more rebelious? she looks more like a nun now than before, in the original outfit she looks a bit like a nun, but still looks like her own thing, now it only looks like a nun that is wild but still has to conform to the churchs regulations... the OG one sold her character and her lore way better...
Do not change the Fischl design 😭. Objectively yes. It is a bit too revealing and stuff. But her outfit never felt lewd and it's so damn fitting and cool for her.
Go Woke go broke! Your on Budlite's path, Impact. Keep going! Just be sure to put out the fire on your wings so you can stay in the air further before you crash!
Apparently a group of feminist attacked Genshin Impact so they were forced to change some characters. I think that's also why they changed from Mihoyo to Hoyoverse and the payment charged on your account is not the same. Idr is it Cognosphere? And by changing they don't have to "censor" new characters and old designs
Thats the biggest load of bullshit Ive ever read lmao good job
@@chanderule605 ?
@@chakarasama None of that was true besides the part that they have a new name
Reason is incorrect too
It definitely was censorship. But it was due to a (political?) group protesting the designs and putting eyes on mihoyo. I could be wrong as it’s been a year, but Another reason why we haven’t seen other redesigns is due to Chinese laws regarding gacha. From what I remember there’s certain laws/regulations about changing characters/products after purchasing/being put out for purchase. Basically changing limited characters could potentially cause trouble. (That’s why the only limited character in the original batch was rosaria, as the group pointed her out specifically from what I recall).
Please do correct if I’m wrong I don’t remember much of what happened so take this with a massive grain of salt.
i want an itto skin with his rainbow horn idea
1:18 Unrelated but I like the the 1st outfit more but wish it had the colors of the 2nd one
Just because the Free Glider matches it's color, also the Glider has night sky stuff details on it so yeah
i want more skins where it would work story wise or past outfits for some.
for example if wanderer got his Scaramouche skin or if Childe a shneznian funeral skin (rip original catalyst cryo mommy).
i don't like how Ayaka got her new skin now when i would have been better to give it to her after fontain's story quest had finished and say she went on holiday to fontain and wanted to dress like a local, im not an Ayaka fan and i would love that
Dude is d-riding mihoyo 😂
And now we have dehya & nilou, whose outfits are much revealing..
The traveler’s deserve skins more than everyone else at this point and that’s a fact, they are so outdated.
Having skins for characters that need them is how it should be, Ayaka is cute as hell but didn’t deserve a skin before the ogs in the game, and some characters like Lisa, well I’m happy she’s finally getting a skin because she deserves it. Bennett, xingqiu, xiangling, all should have skins by now and there’s really no excuse for them not having skins… not one. I love Raiden and want a skin but that’s not what should happen in my opinion and it hurts to say it but the others should get skins first.
I just saw it as an outfit change for important more fancy events they had to go to
Yup, I can confirm lol I took a long break, and when I met Rosaria in the game for the first time, she had the censored outfit.
Were you in disbelief and doubting your memory of what she looked like? lol
@Ratheil 100% Plus, the newer outfits took priority. I had to go to each character to equip the old outfits. Wild.
Still hate Mona’s new skin to this day
Childe skin please? Maybe a summer set, or a Snezhnaya one that is almost like the Fatui video, but kinda more leaning to mobility in combat?
Would love to see Thoma as well wearing a Mondstadt outfit, or prolly and Inazuma x Mondstadt fusion ensemble.
Originally at the time there was leaks for new mandatory skins for Yoimiya, Ayaka, Raiden and Kokomi but those weren't added luckily
I don't understand I don't like Mona's outfit compared to her old one but I like Rosaria's new one but I prefer playing her older skin since I prefer it.
For New skins I want Hu Tao to get one but to be honest the ones I need the most in the game are Zhongli's archon war outfit and for Childe Either his Fatui coat at Signora's Funeral or his 2nd boss fight phase.
i think amber jean and mona are for the "redo cuz old" purpose, but rosaria they changed more for the "a nun with that outfit" line
@Gamingcedxvi imagine a scam every time i comment on this channel