Remembering Super Sid and looking at All Blacks BOLTERS | The Breakdown, May 19, 2024
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- Опубликовано: 18 май 2024
- In this episode, the panel pays tribute to great All Blacks halfback Sid Going, looks at the race to the Super Rugby Pacific playoffs, chats to Sam Cane and reviews the Black Ferns loss to Canada in the Pacific Four Series.
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Who would you pick as your All Blacks bolters this year?
Lakai Iose for sure with others like Sam Darry ruben love...
Starting loose trio. Hoskins Sotutu 8, Ardie Savea 7, S. Finau. Bolsters will be. Peter Lakai, Bryden Isoi, Sam Darry, Jamie Hannah, Ruben Love.
Ruben Love or Brayden Iose. A really big bolter is Taufa Funaki. Needs a bit of improvement in the skill set. But a bolter
Hori boy Ruben Love
@@VernonHowe-rs1ltLakai is way too small. Hell get demolished by France and South Africa.
R.I.P. Sid Going. Thanks for all the joy and pride you gave us All Blacks fans.
I'm from South Africa, Cape Town in 1979 my grandfather was listening to the radio and he was a Allblacks fan and he call me to sit with him and Sid Going name came on and I was listening since that day I'm a Allblacks fan 😢
Sam Cane - great player, great All Black, a great man and an awesome Father. Thanks for everything Sam . . . you are a legend!
👍🏴☠☘
I'm old enough to remember seeing the Going brothers running in a triple scissors for Northland. Extraordinary rugby. Sorry to learn of Sid's passing, RIP one of the greats.
Sid Going was one of the greats!
Re-defined the role of a modern halfback. RIP Super Sid.
My dad told me about Sid Going. Going going gone💯🔥
He’s Sid Gone now 🪦🕊️
King of the scissors move
Very sad, my condolences to his family. One of the rugby greats 😢
Man ..some people forget sam cane had thos horrific injuries..and to still wanting to play this beautiful game. Thats gutsy
Peter Lakai is the Future
He will be in the squad for sure
He's done well at the Canes, wasn't really convinced with his u20s showing
I love they never talk about the Hurricanes 😂
as soon as I saw this comment I stopped watching..
@@zechariahfaatiga5676out scored the blues, but lost on kicking, never mind that, they are not worth mentioning when jk ruins the show cheerleading.
Syd didn’t have the best pass of his time but he was outstanding at sniping around the fringes. When our forwards were not providing go forward ball (no they weren’t always the dominant pack) Syd was my go to man. He was a joy to watch, and would have been a mega star in the pay to view world of rugby today.
Put JK on the bench and bring back Justin Marshall. Sick of him butting in to be a cheerleader for the Blues
Ooh, big call substituting one hated NZ analyst for another.
@JaemanEdwards I think he's from down christchurch bruv, there's a reason why marshalls not there everyone bar saders fans sick of him or maybe he doesn't want to be on the show coz saders are a embarrassment 🤔
@@ManaBlack208 I played against Justin Marshall at the National U15 Tournament. He was playing for Southland Boys. Smashed them. Also played against Tana Umaga at the same tournament. He was playing for Viard College of Wellington who were our billets. Smashed them with ease.
We won the tournament. All the top rugby schools were there.
Just a little aside
Agreed, marshal was much better,and more focused on rugby as opposed to himself like jk
Well done Captain Cane, uv given it ur best, if been an awesome player n captain, GOOD LUCK WITH UR FUTURE N THANK U, KIA KAHA BRO
“I don’t believe in stats”
Well .. don’t let this distract you from the fact that John Kirwin coached the blues from 2013-2015
Record 49 games
W-16
L-33
That’s a 33% win rate and one of the worst records in Super rugby history
Yeah, he went in the sheds screaming his head off like a demented lunatic and the players mutinied on him. This is the guy involved in 'mental health'.
JK seems too arrogant. Doesn't strike me as a coach nor a pundit.
If you listened carefully he was pointing out that these stats were skewed by the force that was the Crusaders. It was a shilly way to communicate that point but (and I just checked this with my data scientist son who writes maths for Paris StGermaine) Sir John had a point.
@@markthompson7817 Anybody that accepts a knighthood or any recognition from that family is morally bankrupt.
Jk ever thought about assisting eddie Jones in Japan?
Sid never played for Northland, he played for North Auckland. Sid was my Grandma's favourite, she'd stay at our place to watch the ABs v Boks
I actually agree with JK about teams from 5th to 8th having a fair shot because the juggernaut Crusaders team of the past isn't in the way now. It makes sense
What a legend he was,this is my wife’s account but I’m a Syd and a massive Syd going fan.Condolences to family and friends❤
Starting loose forwards: Savea open side,Finau Blind side,Sotutu 8.Captain: Savea.
Papalii,Lakai,Lose should be in the Squad.
At Lock we need to find specialist jumper.Sam Darry is great at line out time.
There is not many real line out jumpers in NZ.Sam Darry is 6ft 8ins he wins a ton of line out ball.
I like Josh Lord but he out injured.
I really hope that one day, Samoa and Tonga are introduced into Super Rugby as their own respective teams. As much as I love Moana, I just feel that the pacific nations would benefit a lot if their inclusion was of a seperate force. Just look at the wonders it's doing for Fiji. As a Samoan, I absolutely LOVE watching our Fijian brothers make a fortress of their home.
Could you imagine Samoa and Tonga doing the same thing?? Chills. Ah well, maybe someday.
Great ep! The chat with Sam Cane and the boys career appraisal of him was great. My bolters: Xavier Numia, Cortez Ratima, Ruben Love 100% (would love to see him get trialled at 10 also), Peter Lakai, Billy Procter, Brayden Iose, Joshua Moorby. All putting their hand up well for a shot at least. Form dictates.
Nos da Sid. RIP. You seemed a very good bloke and a very good 9. I was 13 when I watched you go against Gareth at the old Cardiff Arms in '73, from atop me Da's shoulders🏴☠☘.
Sid Going is one of the great halfback the make the position as a talking point and one of the most important position in the team of rugby.
I cant wait to see the Razor 's new squad all blacks in 5 weeks.
It will be a very interesting year for the AB'S, really looking forward to seeing him coach at top level. Great coach with a very positive mind set and great tactical analysis
Razors card is going to be marked off the bat if the a bs are crusader heavy
!! Havilli at 10 ,I hope he picks form not his trusted
There's no money to invest the cash cows been milked ,Robinsons new plan at NZRFU is to milk bulls
Finau in 6 hostutu in 8 and Savea in 7..spécialist in their position. Foster ' area is finished fortunetly.
Lakai papaali Iose on the bench.
Way too many Islanders is a recipe for disaster. A team full of Islanders is not a good team. This is just facts.
B nice to C .rawbone abrasive with grunt
Never could this All Black be over-esteemed. He set a benchmark for all those following. Condoléances.
A legend from the mighty North.
I can remember him coaching us as a kid for North Auckland...Rip
Cometh the day
Cometh the warrior ⚚ ⛯
Love this show! What a job Razor will have selecting our All Blacks 2024, so much raw talent coming through. Love you Sam Cane absolute legend ❤
The greatest server to NZ rugby, the greatest rugby commentator ever, Grant Nisbett, has never being mention on this Rugby show,for his outstanding contribution to Rugby.!!
Thank you for the childhood memories Super Sid. RIP 💐
I remember reading Sid Goings book in intermediate. Super sad to hear of his passing.
One of the rugby greats, my condolences to his family 😢
Not one mention of the Hurricanes. It's as if they don't exist.
Will make the Championship even sweeter when we win 😊
Akira Ioane ain’t in ABs contention, he already failed with the ABs several times. He can’t change vertical levels when approaching contact, isn’t good at line outs and doesn’t have the work rate capacity for test rugby.
35:59 that's the blindside's job goldie... 6s are about momentum, 7s about possession
The only two teams to come 4th in the round-robin and go on to win the title are Crusaders (1999) and Highlanders (2015).
Sid is the nickname of former nz cricketer Craig Cumming. Sid Going, Craig Coming
Who can forget the triple dummy scissors
Am I the only one who is not that blown away by Lakai? Good player no doubt but the hype on this kid is over the top imo. He's been above average without being an absolute standout, and am not convinced if he will be able to make that step up to test rugby just yet. Wallace Satiti has been more impressive imo.
My dad told me about Sid Going. Going going gone💯🔥
Finlay Christie can stay on the sidelines. Funaki is doing the business.
Even hotham the 9 of saders great prospect
I saw Sid Going w ABs draw w Ireland 10-10 @ Lansdowne Road - a very very long time ago!
Sprinboks and scrums are beautiful.
Breakdown always looking for bolters
Logical with many all blacks in retreat. Razor must rebuild new all blacks team with youngers talents to win the world cup 2027.
It's one of rugby's favourite subjects
Why not, it’s such fun.
The talk Finlay Christie being a great defender is so weird when he barely makes any of tackles
Forget your Christie..poor 9.
Roigard injured, ratima will be the 9...perenara on the bench. And even Noha hotham the 9 of saders is a future top 9 better than Christie.
Christie is a limited halfback and not for the all blacks.
@@DrissZyanisorrybutyourtimeisfi I agree with you. He's one of the worst half backs in Nz
Yer sams strait up always has been. Miss em n wish em well. Cheers
no way cane gets in
Billy Procter and Rueben Love... Razor can sort out the locks and loosies...
Samipeni 6, he's physical and a tall strong body. Under razor he will thrive in his position, ardie at 7 and either iose or sotutu at 8
Re Blues defense: A disrupted Canes team put 4 tries on them the other week, left some sitters out there, and missed almost all the kicks. Just saying.
I agree. That match convinced me that Canes can beat the Blues. Created plenty of chances. Blew maybe 3 tries by not making the final pass. Watching this program every week though you would wonder if the Canes are even playing. They hardly get a mention.
Canes do not exist as far as this panel is concerned, for weeks canes get no love. Hope it puts a chip on their shoulder
@2halves12 we've already beat the blues this year with a healthy squad, I believe it was the game we lost Cam Roigard to injury
Interesting to see this season that the battle of the bombays only has one fixture (barring finals) and that it is in the final round. Depending on selections by both sides heading into their final round clash, what can we expect in terms of a litmus test of the blue's stoic defence against an enigmatic but potentialy explosive team in the chiefs.
We have seen enough from all the NZ derbys to build a picture of things may turn out however this coming fortnight particularly chiefs v canes and chiefs v blues will further complicate things.
Full disclosure, my loyalty is to the Chiefs so of course the heart will always back that however in both the Blues - with their proven defensive might and ability to grind out wins - and the Hurricanes - with their intensity and potency - I find it almost impossible to predict who will take the crown.
who remembers Karem, from the 70s. i think he was fullback, and batty, winger with the big blonde curls lol
I cant wait to see how NRZ manage.
I hope no discrimination happen, Mounga & Cane shouldnt in the AB discussion until RWC27 ends.
Cane retires the end of year.
@@DrissZyanisorrybutyourtimeisfi doesnt matter now. we'll see later. hope no disgusting discriminate move.
nz have so many talents
@@kurosakiichigo9545 you dont understand ? Cane finished his career with the all blacks. He said it. And there are new talents coming in loose forward.
In 10 missing depth. It is a problem. There are new talents : millar cashmore Morgan kehanna rivez..but they must prove.
@@DrissZyanisorrybutyourtimeisfi what if after few years he decide to change mind?
nahh mounga isnt that good.
he cost us 2 world cups already.
barrett, mckenzie, perofeta should be consistent 10
will very much miss sam cane, but can see why this is the best choice for him.body's a wreck so take the easy money and enjoy japan for a few years
Ruben Love or Brayden Iose. A really big bolter is Taufa Funaki. Needs a bit of improvement in the skill set💯. But a bolter. Maybe a young prop too💯 It's always a young prop thou👍
The Black Ferns are still riding on the coat tails of their RWC win against an England side one person down for the majority of the match and scored at will through the forwards. Two years on and they still haven't learned to develop their forwards and running from everywhere is going to win the big games. They also need to let go of their ego and kick for field position.
flying from NZ to AUS is simple mate.......hardly any jet lag unless you were going back to sauper rugby of old when the SA teams had to travel to and from NZ
Love ardie at 7. Rekon thats his best spot. Cheers
Yip. Like clock work. JK is talking Akira Ioane up again. How many chances must Akira get to prove himself while other players get none? Every year, he must work on something. Akira has been outplayed year in and year out at SR level. It's frustrating to hear JK continuing on this.
How many chances do Jacobson and Blackadder need ? Blackadder can’t get on the field and Jacobson is always average in tests, has no impact. Akira has the most potential of all three.
Correction....back in the day it was NORTH AUCKLAND
Maybe we see the change of guard returning back to the North Island teams. Auckland dominated from the 80's to the 90's then Canterbury took the reigns till now?
I love watching this show but Sir John Kirwan is annoying with his stubborn views.
Black Ferns out of top two world rankings for the first time in three history. I’m sure they will be back though as they seem to always win the World Cup anyway.
Thankyou for some awesome quality games for AB all the very best for future Sam
Chiefs need to slow down on razzle dazzle to win the final. Their forwards last yr were out of draw because they weren't used to the pressure
Ardie 7, Hoskins 8, Finau 6 Lakai bolter. NO Akira or Papalii PLEASE
This show is all about the Blues 🤷🏽♂️
Don’t let Cane back in he’s caused enough damage 🤦♂️
He played for North auckland not Northland.
Blues all the way 💙 boys
Nz coach still can't handle the in your face defence : and they refuse to use it !!
why would you waste a dozen tests on Sam Cane who is gone end of the year anyway???? A dozen tests for testing for the future, Iose or Lakai - for once Sam Cane - do the right thing and retire fully before Robertson drops you cold anyway
Wats wrong wth Ardie at 6, Dalton at 7, Hoskins at 8, u cn always put Ardie BAK at 8, if Hoskins doesn't work out, put Samiseni at 6, cane n lakai in da mix, those r bruisers rite dea
CHIEFS NEED TO GET HONA INTO THAT BACKLINE... DONT LISTEN TO RANDEL...HE JUST LOOKING AFTER HIS CUZZYS....
Rip sid
Alan Bunting is definitivetly not the man for the job. We passed from Wayne Smith to this clown.
How can the nzru take alan bunting like coach of black ferns ?? A joke. Wayne Smith must coach the black ferns for the next world cup if no they will lose.
Nzru must take top coach for the black ferns in the future.
Chill bro lol just one game
@@NZTrumpFanThey've lost 3 from the last 4 games actually.
It's not really a matter of Wayne Smith vs Alan Bunting. It's a completely new coaching team. Pre world cup they also had Mike Cron helping with set piece.
@@DarkMoonWayfarer g check the facts it 3 from 5 lol not even that bad g no more losses until 2026 after the RWC she’ll be right
@@DarkMoonWayfarer wayne Smith took the black ferns before the Last world cup and he won it. Black ferns had the same coaching problem. A missing top coach for the black ferns
Alan bunting is also today the same problem coaching.
sids face should be copyrighted. hes was an icon, gregan was a fan of sids, u could see it in the way gregan played. should do another fern now with 2 fallen petals. Johna and sid. i sold a small bit of gold to buy tickets to the twickers nov 2. train, match, accommodation 😃
Thanks
JK the surfer 🏄♂️ man of many talents cowabunga dude 😂🤙
the black ferns are about as relevant as a barrel in a breakdown
sid going wow ,on a sore note majority of the time these 3 breakdown ex allblacks great guys but very bias to there own province.hardly had a word about the hurricanes in the super rugby comp.And they lead the comp.i hope the hurricanes kick there asses,geoff your team is gone get on the hurricanes wagon.
Bro get Jk off the show
OK we'll put you up there then as a replacement
@@ManaBlack208 nah bro making enough money already building is a mean job
I vote for JK !
He's probably got some scandalous changing room pics of the co presenters or something.
@@icefarrow7959 oath
He has not been an amazing All Black captain, at all, Kirwan.
I think he was just being polite, providing a bit of balance after some of his shabby on line treatment.
Sam Cane is better than Papalii still, who has bever performed for the ABs.
Bloody shame. Mr , Williams won the game.! Bloody cheat. That was a fair tackle.!! But it was all planned.!!!
Bring back the the other lady
It is quite apparent that the inclusion of the pacific teams has done nothing for Nz rugby or even the pacific teams themselves.
I disagree - Fiji had a great world cup. Samoa and Tonga under performed at wc but they are defo building / attracting their European based players back
What Pacific teams included into what? Only Fiji Drua in the Super Rugby Pacific with the Moana Pasifika which is a NZ super rugby team made up of NZ contracted players!
@@thefobbie0034 Uh huh.
@@Marius_vanderLubbe Try being specific!
@@thefobbie0034 Pictures?