Grandioso e pieno di talento Salieri. Ingiustamente dileggiato e calunniato da piccoli uomini spregevoli. La storia ha reso giustizia di queste falsità sul suo conto .Le sue opere sono importanti e gradevolissime anche a noi moderni.
Salieri ist für mich ein großartiger Komponist, und kann durchaus mit Mozart gleichgestellt werden. Wer die Musik von Salieri nicht mag der muss sich ja nicht anschauen er wird ja nicht gezwungen. Rasmus aus Schweden 🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪
Bartje I thought you found Salieri's variations on La Folia incredibly dry and unremarkable (opinion which I don't share). I distinctly remember reading your opinion on the matter somewhere on RUclips. At any rate, cheerio! You're an outstanding channel. Also agree with the trombones.
Sallierin konser salonlarında görmezden gelinen bu eserini iyi bir orkestrannin caldığıni duymak mutluluk verici .Benim için sürpriz oldu.İyi bir ses kaydıyla bize dinlettiniz Çok teşekkürler
@@enricoluccarini3626 There are I think about 150 sets of variations on this Portuguese ‘Folia’* by different composers from different ages; which is the ‘…best set’ would be an interesting debate. Many of the sets are keyboard or chamber versions, CPE Bach’s keyboard version is I think very interesting, Vivaldi wrote a set for trio sonata, but the one I would nominate as one of the very best from the pile is probably Corelli’s violin sonata Opus 5 No 12 (including Geminiani’s very fine free arrangement of Corelli’s violin sonata as a concerto grosso). Salieri’s orchestral variations stand a little apart from the rest, not only as he uses a large orchestra, but also in the way he treats it as a sort of concerto for orchestra and as an investigation into orchestral sonority and symphonic writing; the main almost inevitable criticism is that the harmonic structure is relatively unchanged over the XXVI variations, though everything else is extremely colourful and varied. * In spite of its Portuguese origin, the theme is often known as the Spanish Folia (in whatever language), and as exemplified by the composers listed above, it was made popular across Europe by Italians so we often see ‘La follia’.
A stunning performance of a magnificent set of Variations. Salieri was an old man - 65 - when he wrote this, yet it bubbles with life. As he laid down his pen he must have thought "at last I've written something as good as Mozart" - and of course completely different. The videography is wonderful too, capturing so many fascinating faces and instruments.
Remember, Salieri's supposed bitter envy of Mozart was a fictitious construct, most recently revived by Peter Shaffer for his play & film "Amadeus." It has no historical basis at all...
Not sure if anyone had a connection yet but this piece is heard in Ib Game. It got me into Salieri's piece along with Mozart's piece (when I learned about Mozart a bit more, his life and etc, I got to know Salieri as well, they're amazing.)
This set of Variations is a treatise on early-19th century orchestration, and show Salieri to be the Master that he was. Beethoven, Rossini, Mendelssohn, Saint-Saens, Berlioz: there are echoes of all of them in this Variation set. Written, it should be noted, when he had basically "retired", and so likely written just for the sheer enjoyment of it: you can tell that he's having fun here. I hope that more performances occur.
His opera days were over, but he was the senior composition teacher in Vienna almost up to his death. When Schubert was kicked out of the university (bad at maths) and therefore the music school, Salieri knew his talent and taught him free of charge for two years.
This is a slightly confusing piece, is it a funeral march? A violin concerto? An epic fantasy movie soundtrack? Is it a part of Beethoven's 9th symphony? Or the ending of his triple concerto? Amazing what can be done with just one simple theme, always remember that this is a music lesson by a very good teacher... Great performance.
Even lack of culture schould have limits! La Follia is a wellknown melody from the XVI, used by a lot of composers, as Alessandro Scarlatti, Corelli, etc. It`s not sad at all, it's grave, since it's a Spanish melody on the rythmus of the spanish dance "sarabanda". You could hear is also at the begining of the "Egmont-Ouverture" by Beethoven, symbolising the Spanish oppression in the Netherlands. As for the form of this wonderful work, it is called by its composer "Variations for violin, harp and orchestra on the theme of La Follia di Spagna". It is an unsurpassable example of orchestration. Not to forget that Salieri was almost 70-odd years of age as he composed it. You should have been honoured to have it as YOUR funeral march.
@@jeanghika7653 I actually learned a lot about orchestration in the piece. I agree it's brilliant. Somewhere I have the score, so there's that. One more thing, yes I would absolutely be honoured to play this at my funeral. It is the people who think Salieri is a mediocre composer that miss out on pieces such as this, and I argue their life is much poorer for it. Now that I'm familiar with Salieri's music, I can actually hear his influence on Beethoven... So perhaps you misunderstood my original comment or I didn't articulate my thoughts clearly enough...
Cette composition fait partie du patrimoine portugais du 15éme siècle , beaucoup de compositeurs ont joué chaqu'un à sa manière, mais semble t-il que la version d'Antonio Salieri (1750-1825) est la plus brillante avec de riches couleurs orchestrales dans 26 variations , revêle sa manipulation totale sur la technique d'harmonie et le contrepoint du 19ème.
Of all the many Folias, this one pleases me personally the most (dynamite, fireworks really if you like that kind of thing, technically the most accomplished ). Corelli is a close second (very soave and cantabile in the Italian style). I suppose Vivaldi will be third but I have not listened to many others.
Beethoven is extremely overrated and 90% of his music sounds pompous and awkward. Also he hated colour in music. This is such a cool Theme and Variations. Beethoven would've never composed like this.
Когда я начинала своё знакомство с Сальери это было одним из первых произведений, которое мне попалось. Не могу сказать, что оно восэихительно от и до, но я искренне наслаждаюсь большей его частью, а многие фрагменты просто обожаю! Насколько я знаю есть постновка балета на это произведение, очень надеюсь увидеть его однажды
@@Ziad3195 просто не люблю вариации где задействован только один-два инструмента. кстати я тут написала, что надеюсь однажды побывать на балете поставленном на это произведение и это случилось! месяц назад съездила в Екатеринбург, великолепное исполнение
La interpretación es magnífica. Salieri le sacó el sentido a esta hermosa pieza ,es una versión del periodo clásico, la pieza original es bellísima, esta a mi no me gusta..
Salieri was Beethoven's teacher. His music is IMO superior to Mozart's and Beethoven's. Nothing wrong with either B. or M. Great music. That is not the point. Why superior (subjectively)? Because Salieri's music is Italian and Italy is the mother of all music (e.g. says Kurt Rudolf Mengelberg in a 1916 book about Giovanni Alberto Ristori). You can hear this warmth, something neither M. nor B. could do B. is swelling pathos. To the extent that M. could do it, he learned it all from the Italians. Much of the rest is Mozart muzac, titititi tatatata. That Hollywood movie. It's a good story. It is an infantilized version of reality like many Hollywood movies. But there is no connection with real reality and frankly I find it cryptoracist. The efforts from Northern Europeans (I am one myself) to obliterate Italian music in the nineteenth century can be meticulously documented and some of it is disgusting. There is something completely wrong with the history of western music.
Bueno.. Como solo conozco el idioma español aqui voy.... De música tengo mas "gusto" que oído, aún asi las compsiciones creadas hasta el 1900 y poco, tienen un sentido mas intro-pomórfico que desde esa época. Esta por ejemplo me agrada, me aporta afectos, emociones, empatías que se complementan con vivencias dell día. Las obras de los mas renombrados músicos de aquellos siglos citados ya me llevan a inspiraciones nuevas o renovadoras. 👏👏👏🤝
Irgendwie Schade, dass Salieri immer im Schatten Mozarts stand und dann diese Neider- Geschichte erdichtet worden ist... Klar, Mozart ist einfach eine Ausnahme in der Musikgeschichte, aber das macht Salieri nicht weniger hörenswert :D
one would think that after studying violin for decades and playing 100s of concerts she would learn to keep her hair tied back. seems like an affectation.
No, that was made up by Pushkin ("Mozart and Salieri") and developed by Shaffer ("Amadeus"). Watch the video of "Mozart and Salieri", which has excellent subtitles.
Aargh! WDR drags this powerful piece through the mud. It is too slow, lugubrious. Clumsy handling of dynamics. The Bamert-conducted version, to my taste at least,, is far better -- Bamert's variation at 1.45 doesn't come in tll about 2.30 on this WDR version -- as I said, this is slow, it drags. This piece should be "written with thunder and lightening," not drowned . . .
This is probably the earliest set of free-standing orchestral variations predating Brahms Op. 56 by some 50 years. Not to my mind a very interesting piece, however.
La Follia is Based in a Spanish court dance called Zarabanda//sarabande , therefore the structure is the same , there are hundreds of variations by docens of composers.
This is the first Salieri performance I have seen where the video is actually professional and not just a phone camera
You're welcome 😊
A great composition..!! Definitely he knew what he was doing (colors, instruments combination, rhythm, soloists, narrative)..!!
Bro how much underrated can an artist be ??
On top of that being condemned for something he never did
I don't know, Salieri is quite overrated
サリエリは評価されてますよ、ただ作品が有名じゃないだけです
Peter Shaffer has much to answer for.
Grandioso e pieno di talento Salieri. Ingiustamente dileggiato e calunniato da piccoli uomini spregevoli. La storia ha reso giustizia di queste falsità sul suo conto .Le sue opere sono importanti e gradevolissime anche a noi moderni.
😊
Mastero Antonio Salieri!
Salieri ist für mich ein großartiger Komponist, und kann durchaus mit Mozart gleichgestellt werden. Wer die Musik von Salieri nicht mag der muss sich ja nicht anschauen er wird ja nicht gezwungen. Rasmus aus Schweden 🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪
Salleri iyi besteci.Mozart dahi.
The concert master's solo during the middle of the piece gave me a goose bump, fantastic!
Thank you! 😊
These variations would be excellent for a ballet. Great trombones btw!
Bartje I thought you found Salieri's variations on La Folia incredibly dry and unremarkable (opinion which I don't share). I distinctly remember reading your opinion on the matter somewhere on RUclips.
At any rate, cheerio! You're an outstanding channel. Also agree with the trombones.
Eccellente composizione! L'orchestra assolutamente all'altezza riesce a farci ascoltare un pezzo davvero maestoso!
Grazie!
Sallierin konser salonlarında görmezden gelinen bu eserini iyi bir orkestrannin caldığıni duymak mutluluk verici .Benim için sürpriz oldu.İyi bir ses kaydıyla bize dinlettiniz Çok teşekkürler
Why the fuck everybody knows all mozart pieces and nobody knows salieri's best pieces like this.
I found it great
Tal vez porque conviene a ciertos intereses.
Es cierto, se conoce más de Mozart, pero Salieri es: TITANICO, una pieza musical asociada con la libertad
non sei più sola !:) Tu n'est plus seule :) Yesterday in Opera from Marseille ...
How poetic of you ...kind sir
Mozart is more catchy
I found it extremely repetitive and nowhere near the quality of Mozart.
Reinhard Goebel is one of the greatest musical leaders of our time. He always has the finest musicians working with him.
Excellent rendition. Very good videography. Thank you!
The orchestration of this amazing piece is way ahead of its time. Watch out Amadeus. 😉
Thank you!
We are glad that you like it.
a true masterpiece!
Salieri ist mein absoluter lieblings Komponist.
How could this be any more beautiful?
Vivaldi's version is beautiful too, some days I feel even more than this one
Masterful set of variations, well ahead of it's time. Could have been composed in the 20th century!
Possibly the best set of variations on "La folia" ever composed - and there are quite a few.
@@enricoluccarini3626
There are I think about 150 sets of variations on this Portuguese ‘Folia’* by different composers from different ages; which is the ‘…best set’ would be an interesting debate.
Many of the sets are keyboard or chamber versions, CPE Bach’s keyboard version is I think very interesting, Vivaldi wrote a set for trio sonata, but the one I would nominate as one of the very best from the pile is probably Corelli’s violin sonata Opus 5 No 12 (including Geminiani’s very fine free arrangement of Corelli’s violin sonata as a concerto grosso).
Salieri’s orchestral variations stand a little apart from the rest, not only as he uses a large orchestra, but also in the way he treats it as a sort of concerto for orchestra and as an investigation into orchestral sonority and symphonic writing; the main almost inevitable criticism is that the harmonic structure is relatively unchanged over the XXVI variations, though everything else is extremely colourful and varied.
* In spite of its Portuguese origin, the theme is often known as the Spanish Folia (in whatever language), and as exemplified by the composers listed above, it was made popular across Europe by Italians so we often see ‘La follia’.
A stunning performance of a magnificent set of Variations. Salieri was an old man - 65 - when he wrote this, yet it bubbles with life. As he laid down his pen he must have thought "at last I've written something as good as Mozart" - and of course completely different. The videography is wonderful too, capturing so many fascinating faces and instruments.
Thank you. 😊
65 is not old 🤬
@@Gwailo5465 for that period in human history,it is old.
Remember, Salieri's supposed bitter envy of Mozart was a fictitious construct, most recently revived by Peter Shaffer for his play & film "Amadeus." It has no historical basis at all...
Amadeus is not based in reality. The two were not jelous enemies.
A very mature Salieri... much more interesting and coherent than some other compositions... forward thinking. Glad to have been introduced to this!
We're glad that you enjoyed it 😊
Magnifico esaltante AustroVeneto.
это вдохновляет. целый рассказ получился. сальери крут
Hermosa...toca hasta el alma.
Muchas gracias 🤗
Not sure if anyone had a connection yet but this piece is heard in Ib Game. It got me into Salieri's piece along with Mozart's piece (when I learned about Mozart a bit more, his life and etc, I got to know Salieri as well, they're amazing.)
@perfeito
Folia used in game IB is a variation on La folia made by Corelli, not Salieri.
This is an impeccable performance
Thank you! 😃
@@WDRKlassik Thankyou
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Majestuoso, excelente ... , Saludos desde ciudad México.
La più geniale.
Dovendosi confrontare con il giovane Mozart, lo stimolo a fare bella e grande composizione era forte...c è riuscito!
Goebel y wdrso como siempre, geniales
This set of Variations is a treatise on early-19th century orchestration, and show Salieri to be the Master that he was. Beethoven, Rossini, Mendelssohn, Saint-Saens, Berlioz: there are echoes of all of them in this Variation set. Written, it should be noted, when he had basically "retired", and so likely written just for the sheer enjoyment of it: you can tell that he's having fun here.
I hope that more performances occur.
So, by the time Salieri composed this (1815), his opera days were pretty much behind him. He died in 1825.
His opera days were over, but he was the senior composition teacher in Vienna almost up to his death. When Schubert was kicked out of the university (bad at maths) and therefore the music school, Salieri knew his talent and taught him free of charge for two years.
Slava is a most rhythmic arpeggio in this 10:25 solo.
This is a slightly confusing piece, is it a funeral march? A violin concerto? An epic fantasy movie soundtrack? Is it a part of Beethoven's 9th symphony? Or the ending of his triple concerto? Amazing what can be done with just one simple theme, always remember that this is a music lesson by a very good teacher... Great performance.
Even lack of culture schould have limits! La Follia is a wellknown melody from the XVI, used by a lot of composers, as Alessandro Scarlatti, Corelli, etc. It`s not sad at all, it's grave, since it's a Spanish melody on the rythmus of the spanish dance "sarabanda". You could hear is also at the begining of the "Egmont-Ouverture" by Beethoven, symbolising the Spanish oppression in the Netherlands.
As for the form of this wonderful work, it is called by its composer "Variations for violin, harp and orchestra on the theme of La Follia di Spagna". It is an unsurpassable example of orchestration. Not to forget that Salieri was almost 70-odd years of age as he composed it.
You should have been honoured to have it as YOUR funeral march.
@@jeanghika7653 I meant what I said in a positive context, I actually prefer Salieri to Mozart...
@@jeanghika7653 I actually learned a lot about orchestration in the piece. I agree it's brilliant. Somewhere I have the score, so there's that. One more thing, yes I would absolutely be honoured to play this at my funeral. It is the people who think Salieri is a mediocre composer that miss out on pieces such as this, and I argue their life is much poorer for it. Now that I'm familiar with Salieri's music, I can actually hear his influence on Beethoven... So perhaps you misunderstood my original comment or I didn't articulate my thoughts clearly enough...
It's an ancient spanish dancing theme. Corelli and many others compose over it. Top
@@capezyo I know, around a 150 composers did it...
The best in the world! Respect Big Master
Top Variations
So beautiful ❤
Thank you! 🥰
Molto bello!
Какая роскошная вещица.
I like it! Мне таки понравилось.
Tremendo pedazo de interpretación! Increíblemente bello. Se podía construir un poema sinfónico sobre la Folia. Lo lograste, Salieri. Bravo!!!
Muchas gracias 😊
So good an arrangement as Corelli's
Excellent
interesting to hear Göbel with an orchestra on "modern" instruments.
my mom played Salieri to me in the womb
Sublime
Very nice ❤
Thank you! 🥰
Play 7:12 and pay attention at 7:14 😁
La armonía es soberbia. ¡¡¡Qué orquesta!!! 😮
Gracias! 🤗
how can i buy this concert in flac or hi-res audio?
Cette composition fait partie du patrimoine portugais du 15éme siècle , beaucoup de compositeurs ont joué chaqu'un à sa manière, mais semble t-il que la version d'Antonio Salieri (1750-1825) est la plus brillante avec de riches couleurs orchestrales dans 26 variations , revêle sa manipulation totale sur la technique d'harmonie et le contrepoint du 19ème.
08:42 Glass meets Salieri LOL
Oh, you're right! 😁
Of all the many Folias, this one pleases me personally the most (dynamite, fireworks really if you like that kind of thing, technically the most accomplished ). Corelli is a close second (very soave and cantabile in the Italian style). I suppose Vivaldi will be third but I have not listened to many others.
We're happy that you like it 😊
Muthis bir eser.
6:38 for the main theme of l'Aigle
exactly why i’m here
As you can see he was using harp in his orchestra, something even Beethoven never did
Beethoven used harp in the Op. 43 "Prometheus" ballet.
@@joellazar1312 ok well...didn't know about that
Beethoven is extremely overrated and 90% of his music sounds pompous and awkward. Also he hated colour in music. This is such a cool Theme and Variations. Beethoven would've never composed like this.
@@joellazar1312That's the exception that proves the rule.
@@Ziad3195 you don't even seem to have heard late beethoven. Come back after growing up a bit
It would have been great to hear this under Bernstein with the NYPO.
Ich hab jetzt versucht das auf der Gitarre zu spielen und dann ist mir aufgefallen, dass ich es kenne
awesome
Thank you! 😊
сальери классно обработал супер, молодец
Когда я начинала своё знакомство с Сальери это было одним из первых произведений, которое мне попалось. Не могу сказать, что оно восэихительно от и до, но я искренне наслаждаюсь большей его частью, а многие фрагменты просто обожаю! Насколько я знаю есть постновка балета на это произведение, очень надеюсь увидеть его однажды
Why is it not amazing all the way through for you?
@@Ziad3195 просто не люблю вариации где задействован только один-два инструмента. кстати я тут написала, что надеюсь однажды побывать на балете поставленном на это произведение и это случилось! месяц назад съездила в Екатеринбург, великолепное исполнение
@@lohopephi6333Ah, that's wonderful! Hope you had fun!
❤️😍😍
7:52
To me, a non musician this version(s) of La Folia by Salieri entails elements from the whole Western (European) music.
the difference is, where are the chinese and korean salieri and mozart? the creative spark is missing.
Was anyone better than Saleriri?
No
@@Ragnar-l5w I agree. Ani maskim.
7:35 Warband L'Aigle mod
La interpretación es magnífica. Salieri le sacó el sentido a esta hermosa pieza ,es una versión del periodo clásico, la pieza original es bellísima, esta a mi no me gusta..
Gracias 😊
He composed like a teacher. No adventure, just endless repetition of boring phrases and unimaginative solos.
Tó mé it's clear : _The Last Mohican theme was written after listening to this_
Salieri was Beethoven's teacher. His music is IMO superior to Mozart's and Beethoven's. Nothing wrong with either B. or M. Great music. That is not the point. Why superior (subjectively)? Because Salieri's music is Italian and Italy is the mother of all music (e.g. says Kurt Rudolf Mengelberg in a 1916 book about Giovanni Alberto Ristori). You can hear this warmth, something neither M. nor B. could do B. is swelling pathos. To the extent that M. could do it, he learned it all from the Italians. Much of the rest is Mozart muzac, titititi tatatata. That Hollywood movie. It's a good story. It is an infantilized version of reality like many Hollywood movies. But there is no connection with real reality and frankly I find it cryptoracist. The efforts from Northern Europeans (I am one myself) to obliterate Italian music in the nineteenth century can be meticulously documented and some of it is disgusting. There is something completely wrong with the history of western music.
Non, Salieri n'était pas un piètre compositeur. C'est la concurrence qui était trop rude.
3:52 armchair historian
That's what I was looking for lmao. Thanks
Bueno.. Como solo conozco el idioma español aqui voy.... De música tengo mas "gusto" que oído, aún asi las compsiciones creadas hasta el 1900 y poco, tienen un sentido mas intro-pomórfico que desde esa época. Esta por ejemplo me agrada, me aporta afectos, emociones, empatías que se complementan con vivencias dell día. Las obras de los mas renombrados músicos de aquellos siglos citados ya me llevan a inspiraciones nuevas o renovadoras. 👏👏👏🤝
Nos encanta, que te haga ilusión escuchar nuestro concierto. 😊
the rest is just the same, isn't it?
Türk locası butonu :)
Irgendwie Schade, dass Salieri immer im Schatten Mozarts stand und dann diese Neider- Geschichte erdichtet worden ist...
Klar, Mozart ist einfach eine Ausnahme in der Musikgeschichte, aber das macht Salieri nicht weniger hörenswert :D
one would think that after studying violin for decades and playing 100s of concerts she would learn to keep her hair tied back. seems like an affectation.
the movie script needed spice apparently so they added a fake rivalry between mozart and salieri.
parece que estoy cagando cerotes de mármol con esta música
And he though of himself to be the Patron Saint of Mediocres
No, that was made up by Pushkin ("Mozart and Salieri") and developed by Shaffer ("Amadeus"). Watch the video of "Mozart and Salieri", which has excellent subtitles.
@@anne-louiseluccarini4530 thanks for rectifying me
@@RUclipsIsAwesome 😊
Aargh! WDR drags this powerful piece through the mud. It is too slow, lugubrious. Clumsy handling of dynamics. The Bamert-conducted version, to my taste at least,, is far better -- Bamert's variation at 1.45 doesn't come in tll about 2.30 on this WDR version -- as I said, this is slow, it drags. This piece should be "written with thunder and lightening," not drowned . . .
I reiterate the above comment!
This is probably the earliest set of free-standing orchestral variations predating Brahms Op. 56 by some 50 years. Not to my mind a very interesting piece, however.
You don't like Theme ans Variations? This is a really good Theme and Variations piece. What do you not like about it?
Very weak tone on the harp.
...quite good ?
wait, is it cultural appropriation when a Korean plays the violin? woke-ism is so confusing
Salieri ei ole yhtä hyvä kuin Mozart, mutta mainettaan parempi. /
Salieri isn't as good as Mozart, but better than his fame.
masterpiece
La folia??Vivaldiにそっくりなんだけど
La Follia is Based in a Spanish court dance called Zarabanda//sarabande , therefore the structure is the same , there are hundreds of variations by docens of composers.