Acer E5 Charge Light But No Power - LFC
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- Опубликовано: 11 янв 2021
- This Acer was running just fine, and then suddenly wouldn't turn on - apparently without cause. Charger is fine, battery charges. How do we approach this?
Spoilers down below:
Bad keyboard, power button had failed. In the video I show how we can test for this without having a spare keyboard on hand.
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The cleaning at the end always good to see repair guys caring about device like theirs
But you should not spray directly to the laptop keyboard...
Not to many repair shops go the extra mile to physically clean the device before they give it back to client. Love your repair videos I learn a lot. Thank you sir.
Excellent tutorial! About the keyboard replacement, i as well did'nt enjoyed the need to replace just the keyboard, which is trapped like that, but it is actually really simple to get it done. I'll use a candle and a pointy tiny piece of metal, where i will be heating the object costantly to melt this plastic dots, you can use acrilyc glue to reconect this regions.
Graham, impressive diagnosis of the faulty power button/keyboard! Nice one!
Nice job, I love to see the troubleshooting process.
Another Excellent video, you really are a very skilled guy, great job, thank you
Excellent. You made the right choice to not replace the keyboard alone.
Loved it and the cleaning of the laptop. Great video :)
Exceptional work Adamant! :)
Thank you for cleaning it at the end - I HATE the guys in my shop who return the stuff they work on in an absolutely disgusting state. Even if it came in filthy and nasty, I make sure to clean it just to show the owner what a difference there is and to show I offer professional services.
Who said I was in charge ? I'm one of them :))))
I have the same DMM as a backup and it quickly became my main one :D White marker or price sticker cutout inside the triangle dial notch makes life SO much easier ;)
Didnt see your videos for a while and wondered why. Aparantly i was subscribed but none of your posts got to me.
Its good seing you use the wowstick. Have the same screwdriver and does woders when looking to unscrew 20 screws. Saves lot of time and prevents any overtightening.
brother you saved my life. that was totally the same case with my laptop. love you
Can't believe you use Mr Sheen as well lol Its the best cleaner I have found , does not leave any residue and never had any problems with laptop screens. The glass cleaners can be dodgy even the ones without ammonia and I would definitely make sure the laptop is off and spray whatever cleaner onto a rag instead of straight onto the screen just incase some product runs down the edge of the screen and into the screen layers or ffc connectors. I have had some laptops and televisions with damage due to this. Thanks for the video mate.
use a old funky or cheap soldering iron to top off or remove heat stakes. Tech rule #1....do whats easiest first check volts coming in and out.....from charger to power button. Awesome job tho, I like your thought process and showing the rabbit hole we end up going down on every device repair!
Good job man! Keep it up.
always enjoy your videos. thumbs up happy New year
Thank you for the lessons
What a nice and shiny laptop furniture!
Happy New Year
Great video you diagnosed in 10 minutes what it has taken me 3 days to do and still no clue as to why my dell wont start up !
Thank for sharing your brain process
Well done, simpler/faster i stand under :-D
I did start to worry that the super i/o chip had bit the dust, thankfully not.
Stab the connector lol.
Now if it was my or maybe your personal laptop, a button on thin wires would appear.
Who shouted Bodge!! :)
Have just swapped motherboard on my Acer N15q1, It looks like a keyboard swap for me, as it is very similar to the one in your video, which is very helpful btw. Thanks
You helped me big time!
Could you do a video about jobs you have waiting. Would be interested to see variation and different kind of repairs / jobs you have on the queue.
+1
Great suggestion 👍
Hi there, it was a perfect and interesting tutorial video. thnx
I like that screwdriver. I want one !
I've used 3d pen to keep the keyboard in place. Awesome vids
That's a cool idea :) I've gotten away with hot melt glue or instant glue + baking soda combo before, but i need some more reliable and quicker methods. Wonder if melting household plastic with an induction soldering iron would work. 🤔
Thank you very useful.
I need Schematics for the
Acer e1572, to check those pins, in case it's the keyboard.. But it worked before I decided to disassemble looking for the CMOS battery that never existed for this model. 🤔?
Crap happens when you're having fun. 🔨😁🔧
My jaw dropped when he sprayed the cleaner......directly on the laptop
For these keyboard replacements I found tiny screws on Amazon that will screw and anchor in to the underside of the palmrest. You can apply these screws where you can't remelt those posts.
great video.
Your Digital tester is nice.
Great video
"Let this shit start up"? hahaha tilt mode. Great real world experience m8. Thanks for the vid.
good work 👍👍👍
I was surprised you didn't test the new keyboard and trackpad; maybe the powerbutton works but one or more of the other button or the trackpad don't. A small test would result in being certain you did an oke repair.
If the keyboard weren't rivoted in place like that, I would even try to go as far as tearing the layers apart on the keyboard and redraw the power button trace if all other traces are good.
Or, perhaps you can try a frankenstein method of soldering a physical power button off the side of the laptop or something so the user can switch it on there.
Hello ,happy to see your teaching videos ,would you like to tell me whats going on with mine , basically when I press power button laptops keeps powering on and shunting down continuously but after I remove ram memory I place it back its power on shut down one time then its start normally, I did some test with mmtest 64 to doubles check memory and its fine after a check of 3 h then I replaces them with other ones still doing same , any ideea ? Its a sony vaio sve151d11m
Thank you!!!!!!
I love this video, as you take everything step by step. Thankyou - very helpful. I'm wondering if you have a schematic for a motherboard from an Acer Aspire 1 A114-31 Model N17Q4. I'm having the same issue with this laptop, but can't workout where the keyboard pins may be for a jumpstart to ascertain if the power problem is the keyboard, as in your video.
Hope you can help me 🙂
You will still have the old trackpad from the previous top as a spare part.
@Mr Guru ^this.Aldo a repair guy and I sometimes feel like employing somebody to ebay things for me because there is no time to do it myself. A great deal of such parts are scrapped even if they have a decent value just because the hassle of selling them via ebay isn't worth the headache
He's back to Work Face...
thanx bro :)
Would love to see you do a complete video of troubleshooting with a meter. I have the same problem with an acer travelmate. The blue light cycles on and off and have done the obvious basic things but not gotten in there with a multimeter. The CMOS is hard to get to and if that is not the problem then my skillset leads me to the trash bin.
It would have been interesting for you to power it up with the tweezers and he old keyboard just to see if only the pwr button was affected.
Note:there is a protection switch on the motherboard that's why you can't turn on when using battery
Grate video
Hi @adamant IT i hope you'll make a video tutorial on using your tools and devices for your repair. Pls thank you. Im a huge fan of your channel
Thanks
I like your approach, very clever, but i'm wondering, how do you do to find schématics ?
Hard day at work.....now onto LFC's with a beer. Cheers folks!
Fuck yeah thanks ! Saved a bunch 😁 ended up having the same issue
I was ashamed at saying I'd write off the laptop but as the video went on I didn't feel so bad. Those Acer E series are a major PITA to repair, but I keep buying them 😂
Edit: major props for properly cleaning the laptop before returning it!
Hi, good job ! Where did you find schematic ? Thanks
Graham, could you have done some investigative work on the power button itself? It might have had some grime on the contacts that could've been cleaned by IPA? Or are the contacts inaccessible from the top without tearing out the keyboard?
I've fixed keyboards that way and it just never lasts. Better to replace it.
@@imnota It would have still been nice to know the fault though
Thank you for an educational video. Two surprises: that you don't charge for replacement parts separately and that you didn't check the batteries for possible replacement. Or did you just put in a new CR2032?
RTC batt (CR2032) typically lasts the life time of the computer. They do fail now and then, but I don't bother checking them unless I have a reason to think there's a problem with it. Vast vast majority of computers will boot or at least power on with no RTC batt.
You could short bios battery contacts with tweezers so you don't have to wait 5 minutes.
Cool bro
long shot here but the original keyboard may have only had a little fleck of dust preventing the the key from operating correctly, I've had a few of these with that prob and as you say the keyboards are a Bi...PAIN to remove (gammy soldering iron and hot glue I find works) then podge the corner of the keyboard open, blow and viola...rebuild time.... on one of them I have also fitted an alternative power button to one of these by soldering flyleads with a small button to the 2 pins you identified and mounted it next to the USB on the rhs. But like you say, it's a time thing and that was a 1 hour job.. wish I had pics of it for you.
Yea if the button had been intermittent I'd have started trying to clean contacts and things like that - but when it feels stone-dead like this, I think cleaning would've been a losing battle.
AND.... not only do you save time and a messy repair mess possibly, you get to keep the other assembly for spare parts and all done in a quick time for your customer. In electronics, margins can be small, so you want to have a high turnover and keep things moving..
Question.. not related to this specific video.
Im searching for a replacement battery for my Acer Aspire One ZG5 (AOA 150 -BGw, battery UM08A31 Sanyo Li-Ion 2200mah 10.8v) and for my Sony Vaio VGN-FW11M (PCG-3B1M, battery Sony Li-Ion VGP-BPS13A/S 11.1v 4800mah)
Dont know what to choose. Dont want a battery that is bad quality and only lasts for like 1-2 year.
Any suggestions please?
Hi I have predator triton 300 laptop and I think the motherboard was grounded, do you think it has still a chance to fix this? and what are the common parts that would easily damage if shorted motherboard?
were do you find those schematics
perfect
I tried looking up schematics for the ASRock pro3m AM3+ mobo to try and find out what the mosfets are on vcore, of course there is no markings so I can just use a part number and be on my merry way ....there was 2 blown capacitors on vcore and I was able to find them (cuz they had markings....lol)
just worried if I replace only the capacitors the same thing will happen, that mobo has already killed a 8370 & 8350fx chip....🥺🥺
chill bro ;)
There a switch when opening the back cover it would not power up until the power supply (charger) is plugged in
I thought that my keyboard stopped working but it's even more bizarre.
So my laptop is Asus Rog GL502VS, I have the power LED on when I plug in the charger but it won't switch on. I've started messing around disconnecting everything bit by bit and I made my laptop to work, but here it's getting weird:
I've unplugged ac, BIOS battery, laptop battery and speakers. Plug in ac and boom it switches on, after that I have to quickly plug in BIOS battery and it boots normally.
It will work normalny, it can go to sleep but if I'll shut it down, I'll have go through that process again...
Any ideas?
Thanks. K
I had a job like that, I used hot glue in place of the plastic rivets. The keyboard was $12.00. Easy job.
I've done it a few times with hot glue as well. Does a pretty decent job.
Haven't had a keyboard like this to change yet but that was my first thought.
I have a similar problem, the computer charges the battery but it doesn't turn on, although there is 3.3v on pin 27 even if the jumper does not turn on anyway, what do you think it could be?
I have the same problem. It has been about 2 months since this happened and i have tried everything youtube and google told me to. My laptop is an Hp Zbook 17g2. If you have anything advice, please tell me :(
I got a silly question, more curious than silly really.
As an alternative work around to spending money, is it not possible to do something like "LAN on wake" and/or "wake up on any key"?
Sorry, I know this is a really video but I am obv here bc I have this exact problem and don't have the means to get a replacement.
I do however, think we can make it work using a USB keyboard to make the necessary changes in the BIOS or even via the OS to have it boot up using any key. Because from all the videos, its just one power button that is not working and not the entire keyboard right?
never forget a new top will look much better than just replacing a keybored of doom which is complex so mistakes can happen.
low risk and fast with a better finish V complex slow and risky and not an ideal finish (finish as in the clean new top the laptop has with the replacement.
Where did you get that nice thick micro fibre cloth? All the ones I have found are as thin as tissue paper. Also, where did you learn that neat and very effective cleaning routine? It's very impressive Graham. 👍
Re the power button on keyboards.....he's looking at you Crapple! 😡
Check automotive stores for clothes designed for cars!
The routine is one I've developed myself over the years, quick and effective!
Nowadays this is a common problem,on laptop ( keyboard power button) any way thanks graham. Waiting for investigative complaints
Hello Adamant IT!
My HP Pavilion Dv6 laptop has almost the same issue but does have a removable battery and a separate power button.
When the charger is plugged in with no battery installed there is a white light and normally the laptop should turn on with no issues under AC power only. But just today when I tried to turn it on, it would turn on for a brief millisecond and then IMMEDIATELY cut out, no power at all as if something is shorting.
With the battery inserted and no charger plugged in, the power LED flashes white 3 times when trying to turn on.
With the battery inserted after the charger is already in, the laptop turns on successfully but the battery does NOT charge and will eventually switch off!
Bear in mind the laptop and components are nearly 10 years old.
If you know what the issue could be please help if you can :)
my acer es1 572 has problem, the device chargeing, but when i press power button the power light turn on for 3 secounds and turn off again. do u have any solution to solve the problem and the laptop fan in also not spinning.
we do these with hot-glue, it turns out OK
hi great vid. Have you ever come across this. I have the acer aspire one. it was all working fine. now i go to press the power button and a blue light comes on just once. no charging light or even power up just that blue light.
I have almost the same issue my acer is showing amber light when charging and when i press the power button the charging light shuts off for second and the blue light lights for milisecond? Does it mean that the keyboard is dead
Those laptop I take the bios battery out Along with the main battery then I use the charger to power it up it starts up automatically
With a job like this, what would you do with the track pad? Does it get kept as a known good tester or binned?
Generally I don't keep them, because I don't see trackpad failures very often. Apple trackpads (as good as they are) do fail often, so I keep them - but random windows laptop trackpads, the chances of me needing this one are slim so I'll bin it. Could also list it on eBay and leave it in the back room until it sells. It's up to you how many random spares you want to hoard.
I would have put a little tactile switch on the side as a replacement power switch 😉
Where do you get schematics from?
How much did you charge for the entire repair?
So is just general glass cleaner okay for screens or do you need to check what's in it?
Yea any general glass cleaner. The only one I'd advise against is Windex, because I've recently found out that it's different from other glass cleaner, and apparently much less effective for cleaning.
I think I told you before that heatgun at gentle temperature will melt heat stakes enough that you can pull that cover out and remove keyboard. and then reuse them to hold
new keyboard in.
Yup, and I've used that technique on a repair since then - but it's still a wretched job ;)
@@Adamant_IT good :) well it is but sometimes keyboard is supercheap but keyboard with palmrest isn't.
id love to have the screwdriver your using
mind sharing a link for it
Check old vids. He's done one just about this screwdriver.
What is that camera/light magnifier you're using if you don't mind me asking
I use a Logitech BRIO webcam on a modified microphone stand. Lights are 40w LED studio lights
@@Adamant_IT Thank you
I agree! that is exactly how I run my business. "You take a loss and gain on other jobs", otherwise work piles up leaving you in a pickle.
Why did you not try to repair the button or clean the ribbon cable? Sometimes you can get away with trimming the cable to get fresh traces to fit connector?
Because I don't want to see it again next month with the same issue.
@@Adamant_IT Fair enough makes sense. Just surprised in vid didnt investigate further . Perhaps you did off camera
I’ve had a shorted LCD cable cause a laptop to fail to power on before.
good 👍👍👍👍👍
I have a Lenovo 81DE suddenly it went dead. There is short in the battery rail but when I remove the bios battery the laptop work fine but through the power supply only and if I plug the bios battery and power the laptop it does not power up. The only time it powers up only when the bios battery unplugged...any ideas?
Try replacing the CMOS RTC battery. It's almost always a CR2032 so they are cheap and easy to find at local electronic stores, Amazon, and even most grocery stores. It's fairly uncommon for a dead/defective RTC battery to cause power issues (usually will just get a warning after POST and your BIOS/UEFI settings will be reset) but I do see it from time to time, and more common among laptops.
@@no1ce I did but same issue
Hello, my laptop have a problem with the GPU. It's a sony vaio sve14113egw with 14113egb mainboard inside (sony mbx-270). I've replaced the motherboard before because the original is completely dead. The original one turn on sometime if i bent the mainboard, but as i don't have proper tools to fix board, i just replaced it.
Now the secondary installed mainboard is damaged too, it shows garbled output "Orgratkng Q{veo Not Found" (shows exactly this) and windows bluescreen with garbled output too.. I think i overheated my GPU to death?. But before this happened, I've never have thermal issue with the new mainboard running Ubuntu on my other harddisk, i ran ubuntu from November 2019 and it died when i switched back to Windows hdd. I noticed that even when before i replace the mainboard, the laptop's fan used to spin really fast like if i play game in it.. it runs so hot even if i just leave it idle... And when I replace the mainboard, I'm using my other hdd that I installed Ubuntu on it and the laptop never runs too hot. Only when i switch back to windows hdd, and then it overheat i think...
Can I use the old mainboard's GPU with the new working mainboard that have dead GPU? They charged me 500.000 IDR in my local repair shop for mainboard repairs.. do you think it's best to just buy another mainboard again or move the GPU fron the old mainboard?
Just got a new laptop from my employer last week, and it was the first time I saw a keyboard power button. That video makes it the second.
I guess your wish won't become a reality, now that DELL too is putting power buttons on the keyboard Grrrrrr.
It all depends on what you calculate your hourly rate to be. 10 pounds for 10 minutes work is 60 pounds an hour earned. 50 pounds earned for an hour of work is 10 pounds per hour less earned that the 10 minute job.
Yea exactly this. It's a muddy topic because when you're a one-man-band and you have to run the shop at the same time it becomes more a matter of "number of computers fixed today" rather than "profit per hour." But yea, there's a lot of mileage in taking the easy option in order to get the job done and move onto higher-margin jobs.
16:00 panic moment
I have a E5 575 and I think the only real difference Is that I have a numpad. I have the exact same issue, but I was able to diagnose it pretty much by pressing the power button and when the backlight on the keyboard didn't turn on I knew.