We added goats to our small ranch to keep the pastures clean of brush. They did a good job and what started out as nine does and a buck wound up as 200 breeding does and 6 bucks. We rotated the breeding so we would have several kid crops a year. We found a market through a local butcher shop that liked our clean animals (free of desease), and they bought all we could supply. A good supplement to our cattle production.
Our city of Rocklin Ca uses goats and sheep every year to clear hills, wetland preserves, and every place that has brown grasses or weeds. So far, fire non-existent in our city. Plus, they are wonderful to watch when they attack those hills, etc. it’s been our eco-friendly way of not using herbicides to kills the weeds. Now, lots of neighboring cities are finally using them also.
Yup, same here In San Bernardino. Hills close to Downtown are currently being stripped by about 150 goats. The incline of the Hills doesn’t bother them at all. Lol.
Yep same here in Placerville.. Goats just mow down brush to reduce the flash fuels and reduce fire danger and lower rates of spread.. it’s a win win for all.
Wonderful! I have been shouting for years, "California needs to put goats out there! They'll deal with those fires in no time!" So happy to hear it's being done. And goats provide multiple benefits and streams of revenue. Not only can their controlled grazing reduce the spread of fires and regenerate the land, but their milk is delicious and can be sold as itself and used to make artisan cheeses. And more, if enough are bred, some could be butchered for meat, which is also delicious (and better than lamb, in my opinion).
Here in San Antonio they put about 500 goats in one of the parks down the street to do the exact same thing. It seemed to work. The park looked great afterwards.
Nice. But, if you don't have enough brush, they refuse to eat the grass on their side of the fence. And, if they have horns, they can get in but not out. I wonder if a person could train a goat how to disentangle himself from the fence?
It used to be more balanced... but selective hunting of species has left everything unbalanced... add drought and Global warming... and the western forests are going to GO AWAY...
As someone who lives in those states. Goats ain't gonna fix it. Controlled burns and government allowances for thinning harvests and maintenance are what's needed, but the USFS have their brains unplugged for the past four decades.
It would work, and does work in many places. Trying looking up some regenerative or permaculture ranches and farms in Australia. I've seen plenty of videos of Australians using goats for just that purpose.
Goats are an excellent tool for land management as well as a financial benefit as far as a livestock enterprise. We started with just a few and now run well over 250 head on primarily leased land and primarily utilizing electric fence. In areas as little as 2 acres all the way up to areas as big as 40 acres at one time. Moving them on to the next area as they clear it down. Keeping our land owners happy while the goats clear their brush that is other wise not utilized by their cattle. All the while keeping us happy while the goats pack on the pounds!
Do the goats get poisonous weeds etc too or only higher things like bushes and brush? We have wooded land to clear out as well as land that used to be wooded that no longer has trees but is still super full of all kinds of poison Ivy, brush, etc.
Dog choice: A fantastic animal protection dog is a Kangal. We use one that is like a cruise missile at predators but kind and gentle to everything else. BIG. Hardy. Fearless. Dedicated. Gets along with chickens goats hogs and cows. Even the barn cats like her. And when strangers come to farm (delivery) no issues with her around new people.
This is so amazing to see such great ideas flowing thru the cattle industry.. Locally I have seen goats below a canopy of trees.. The goats eat all the underbrush and other vegetation to completely reduce fire issues in central California foothills.. The grazing acts like and under burn and cleans up the flash fuels in way many thought was not possible.. When I see goats turning the vegetation back to grass and making great grazing for cattle is off the charts.. Many great things are happening with out herbicides too.. a win win situation.. great video guys.. keep them coming..👍😁
We are located in North Texas just across the border. We worked with Dr. Rohla on our Pecan Orchard. You guys are a wealth of knowledge. Thanks for sharing.
They work well, used to graze 1000 to 1500 on brush here in northern Alberta when we had the goat and lamb feedlot. Much easier to keep in with electric fences than sheep. Sure helped the grass production for the cow herd.
Hey Chad! Thats great to hear! We have sheep on one of our other ranches and are having some good success with them too. It's been fun adding these new enterprises to our cattle ranches.
@@roddraper9921 Yes, we will keep some of our kid crop as replacements, but we will sell off the wethers after weaning as well as some of the nannies. And just like any other livestock enterprise, we will cull any animals that are not thriving in our environment.
@@dirtymikentheboys5817 yep, we had good markets around any major cities where most immigrants are located. You want to eat what you are raised on it seems. Mostly cattle now as we we’ve gotten older and goats and sheep are very labor intensive. But they are a good way to start farming. That’s how I got started.
Goats will eat near anything. Years ago a family we knew had some goats and one day after coming home they found two goats which had climbed up a tree next to their house and were laterally eating their roof - cedar I believe.🤣🤣
I recently say a an old saying... (I think author was unknown) It read: "Make your fences horse high, bull strong, pig root proof, and goat wire size... " meaning tall, strong, push proof and made to keep dogs out and small livestock in.
Thank you for this video, we really enjoyed it! So similar to our experience over the past year, figuring out hot fences and paddock sizes. 11 kV sounds just perfect 🤣
I remember way back when we used to deride "Goat Herders" as not being real cowboys. Here from an old hand I am saying these boys are just as busy and just as concerned for their charges as any cowboy of his herd. My apologies my friends I have been shown the error of my old ways. Well done and keep up the great work !
oklahoma goat ranchers.. whoed a thunk.. im just teasinnn.. weve raised goats, sheep, even camels and llamas with our cattle.. well done yall.. doc johnny vmd texas and italy
"Goat Wrangling"! Knowing what little I know about goats and having had the thrill of briefly herding a small 75 - 80 herd, I do know that goats have an uncanny proclivity for trouble. They can go from " everything's OK" to complete chaos in a blink of an eye. I didn't have the luxury of a lot of electric fences but I did have some fairly decent Shepard dogs. Sure looks like these here are working out good for you.
My mom didn't want me to take out one of our goats when I was little, but my dad overrode her . The goat took me out as I recall and I didn't have to be dragged very far before I let go of the rope. Ahh memories.....
You had a great Dad. I bet he gave your mom one of them looks "he 'bout to learn some let him do it" lol We had about a dozen goats when I was a kid. A turbulant kid. I was fitting right in with them. The buck would attack my sister and everybody else. But for some reason he liked when I came around fornsome trouble 😂
Great video, one small jibe: It's easier for the solar panel to keep your batteries charged if it's actually pointed towards the sun... Simpler if you get a bifacial panel.
Y los políticos en el gobierno (Pedro Sánchez y sus seguidores) están al servicio de Soros y otros en el "deep state" o el cabál...Existe mucha corrupción e intervención para separar a Cataluña de España...No tienen bastante de haber hecho tanto daño que lo siguen haciendo todavía...Espero que los españoles despierten...Ya es hora de protestas y de defenderse...
I've got a little herd of 29 San Clemente Island goats that I'm using for fire hazard mitigation in the Napa/Sonoma/Lake County area of Northern California. They are wonderful in steep brushy terrain!
That's fantastic! Were you already having problems with fire and then starting using them to solve that issue, or did you know it could become one and got them as a preventative?
We've had major out of control wildfires the past several years throughout this whole North Bay area. I'm getting cranky about having to evacuate and decide which things are precious and which things I may lose forever. I'd heard the phrase "regenerative agriculture" several years ago and the concept of making sure there are animals on the land as well as plants. That lack of balance pretty obvious here in this human populated part of the world...with super high land values. It seems like herds of goats if carefully managed can do something like the large herds of deer and elk did for hundreds of not thousands of years. It's my small start in solving a big problem. I need to learn how to manage all aspects of this business; the goats, the dogs, portable electric fencing, truck and trailer and finally the customers! It's all good and very interesting :-)
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@@walakirk5270 The way people use god to enrich themselves and or brainwash people into following how they fell about issues. I’m good. Combat those devils. leave me to myself. And maybe I’ll return.
In maine I had trouble with the fence in the winter. Seems like cattle weren't ground because of snow. I split the two wires, kept the top line hot and ground the bottom with an old copper pipe. Solved the problem, I've told others that were having the same trouble, worked for them too. One thing is don't get yourself hit because its worse than a normal hit, you feel it go through you from live to ground almost like two hits.
I've been trying to talk my husband into goats for Years! Now that we've moved onto 29 acres that was clear cut 5 years ago...and the 4 cows aren't eating down the brush as quickly as he'd like...he's entertaining the thought of goats. ...but I told him if he'd have gotten goats 5-10 years ago when I suggested we would have gotten them sooo much cheaper! What kind of goats are y'all running?
Hey Bonnie! Looks like you got a plan a brewin! They are becoming more and more popular and the great thing about them is that you can add small ruminants like goats to use the forage the cows won't, add another enterprise to the same acreage to help become more profitable, and do some great things for the land and soil as well. BTW we run Spanish cross goats.
@@NobleResearchInstitute , I was pretty sure those were the old fashioned Spanish goats. But I'm not expert enough to tell for sure. Here in Deep East Texas that used to be what people ran. It's kind of difficult to find them here, now.
@@NobleResearchInstitute ...and by the way, hubby is thinking of keeping the young, Brangus bull and one Angus/Jersey heifer for milking. Maybe trade the 2 older jerseys (one is ancient and quite cantankerous) for goats. We'll see.
It looks like the South African boer goat. Adapts well to almost any conditions. However, any goat will do a great job if you're only looking to control weeds.
Many people are using boer or boer cross goats. They have a meatier body frame and you don't have to milk them. However, boer goats are notoriously bad Mommas. You must cull, and sometimes drastically until you weed out the bad moms. Bad moms often produce more bad moms. One cross that I accidently found producing really good mommas was fainting goat x boer. If you don't cull the bad moms out you'll find yourself swamped with bottle babies. Cute, but very time consuming.
goats are houdini,s escape artists . that,s why they need always somebody to watch them . same in the midle east . but strong animals and eat everyting what nobody want to eat!!
Glad you enjoyed it! We have added a copper ground rod, at the time of the video we didn't have one yet We did run a ground wire in the 3 wire fence when it was super dry. We ran it on the bottom and did have success with keeping them in using that. After we got a shower we went back to grounding with a copper rod.
Did you add a ground wire during the drought? Keeping them in during this drought has been a problem. What will shock our calves won’t even shock the goats
We did run a ground wire in the 3 wire fence when it was super dry. We ran it on the bottom and did have success with keeping them in using that. After we got a shower we went back to grounding with a copper rod
Great job and great video, hey would it be possible to use a 18" plastic drain pipe, 20' long, cut it vertical in half, seal the ends, and have a long water troft?
So mamy questions... Does every goat need to be trained to the hot wire? Just how do you do that? In an earlier video y'all mentioned not needing to deworm or vaccinate as often. Could you expand on that? What size lots are you running 500 goats on? How do you determine how many you need or can support?
Great questions! We did train a huge majority of our initial herd. But they learn from each other and when a fence is hot enough, they learn by experience that is a barrier they don't want to come across again. It becomes more of a mental barrier. If there is a situation they feel merits crossing that fence, like a threat, or danger, they will cross it for sure. We want to refrain from using any dewormers on our sheep and goats. We do vaccinate them (by Oklahoma law), but we have learned that the parasites that they come in contact with have a 21 day cycle, so as long as we move them often enough they are way less likely to ingest those parasites and get infected. We generally move every 1-2 weeks. Our goats currently are on 10 acre paddocks. We know that we have enough forage in those areas for them to eat. The paddocks will vary as forage availability changes due to weather or topography etc. We started off with a little over 100 goats, but since we have such a huge area not grazable for cattle, we wanted a quicker impact. We may not sustain 500 goats forever, so we will determine each year to see how our landscape changes as we manage this way. Start smaller than you think what you might need and you can always add more goats. Starting smaller is better for fence training and acclimating to behaviors and so on, as well.
I read somewhere that goats turned Three pounds of feed into one pound of meat and cattle are like 8 pound's of feed to one pound of meat. Not really sure about the numbers for cattle but you get the idea
Do you know the breed of guardian dog shown at 5:24 in the video? I know the Turkish kangal breed is also shown in the video. I am curious about the pure white short hair dog. Thanks!!!
In Oregon, viticulture has successfully leveraged marginal terrains and orchardists have begun capitalizing on secondary / premium bi-products (truffles, free-range pork, etc.) to rival their European competitors.
Sheep won’t be able to get into thorny bushes as they do get stuck and need to be saved by human, which often happens in Australia. Also they need to be sheared professionally and that is costly unless you are doing that primarily. Are you going to process the wool? Totally different profession. It’s not like they shed their fur naturally. These guys aren’t doing for meat but to get green pastures for their cows. And sheep won’t be appropriate. Why would they get sheep when they have cows for meat? Have you been to Texas? You don’t see sheep there mostly cows.
Hi, do you try and harvest goat milk and create cheese etc ? How do you monetize the upkeep cost of so many goats ? I know you said that they clear the paddock for more cattle grazing but how does that increase revenue ? Thanks from a City Slicker
Hey! All great questions. All of our goats that are sold are usually meat goats. Because goats have a higher bred and birthing rate then we can determine how many we want/need to sell and how many we want to keep as replacement animals. With goats usually the highest cost for us is for our guardian animals (dogs in this case), for food, heart worm meds, ticks etc. We usually don’t have to feed them much if any during the winter months because there is usually something around they will eat. Sometimes we bring in some alfalfa for extra protein if needed. A lot of the fencing we had because of our cattle. Because they move so often we usually don’t have any kind of medical/vet issues. When the goats clear out the brush in a paddock, it allows more grass to grow for the cows. That allows us to possibly add more cows to our herd because there is more to eat or utilize that extra forage in another way, like stockpiling the forage (leave it standing instead of grazing it.) and that becomes a great winter forage that we can use instead of buying hay, which is an added cost. It all depends on the context of your ranch and what would benefit it the most.
You might want to try an automatic dog feeder with a hole that the dogs can jump through to get to the food....or perhaps had a collar that allows access to the food that only the dogs wear.
Goats are way to smart for their own good. They will sit there and study an issue and work out a solution. Watching them work a fence line to find a way out will amaze you. That said, you got a field of crap and briars, put goats on there and you will end up with a great pasture field in no time.
Spanish goat and keko are are great on pastured as well as closing with boar goat makes good meat goat I’m 72 and slowly getting less goats every year and down to only 45 this year It’s hard to stop after a lifetime of goats
You have shown improving grassland as a result of adding goats. How have your wildlife populations changed specifically bobwhite quail, turkeys and white-tailed deer?
Hey Rob! Great question. Our management as a whole should encourage more wildlife to call our ranches home. It's too early to say what the impact of the goats has on that yet. We are hoping to do an episode next year on the wildlife on our ranches, because we have noticed a bit more diversity just in the last couple of years.
I've heard several times over the years that goats, as opposed to sheep, need shelter (from rain?). What is your experience not using shelter? Death loss % every year? Thanks
Goats don’t like getting wet feet and get foot rot if they are are in areas where they are getting wet feet a lot of the time.And they do like shelter out of the rain as well. Where as sheep can handle being out in the rain a lot better and can handle cold winds a lot better than goats. But a new born goat is a hell of a lot tougher and gets to its feet a lot quicker when it’s born compared to a new born lamb. And goats do not like electric fences and soon learn what they are and tend to stay away. We ran both goats and sheep here in New Zealand and these are things we observed.
Goats hate rain, I have shed all over the place and protect them in winter also Use electric water tanks heaters in winter and salt blocks I feed corn and wheat planted for winter
If you live in colder climate you need to get certain breeds of goats that can thrive in cold weather. Many farmers in Canada have goats. But they usually stay indoor when below zero in winter months. They can be let out when it gets warmer. But they can’t stay outside in subzero temperatures, they freeze to death.
I live in Meadows Valley Idaho. We pasture yearling steers, However, we have been plagued with a weed that we call crows foot. The cattle won't eat it, nor can you kill it successfully with chemicals. Do you know if the goats would eat the crow's foot? Also, do know if a person can lease goats along with their caretakers?
Thanks for the comment! While we don’t have crowfoot, or Indian goosegrass, on our ranches, we know it can be very invasive. But - there’s good news. Browsers, like goats, may eat it. So, instead of spending money on inputs that have been historically unsuccessful, you could make money on them through goats. However, since we don’t have experience with it, we’d recommend you visit with Idaho extension folks and/or area ranchers who run sheep and goats. Learn from them what they know about small ruminants and the crowfoot. Under higher stock densities, goats may learn to eat it, but you’d want to make sure there are any highly toxic compounds in the forb that could create issues for livestock if they consume much crowfoot in their diet. There are goat rental opportunities in many areas. Alternately, you may be able to lease part of your land to someone to run their goats on it. You might reach out to your county Extension office for recommendations.
I had dairy goats for years. My girls were picky and only ate stuff I did not want them to eat. Like fruit trees and blueberries. They would not touch the Chinese Tallow, which my sheep will eat. I switched to sheep. Easier on everything including me and less hassle. I see the goats on your trailer. Have they pulled all the wires out of it yet and messed up your lights and breaks? They mess with everything.
They can be boogers for sure! So far they have not tore up any of the trailer parts. The guys have worked hard at trying to keep it all out of the way. We do have sheep on one of our other ranches and they are fun to have as well!
Dairy breeds of goats are a lot pickier than meat breeds of goat. Dairy breeds require a higher protein & carb ration/diet to produce a high yield of milk, the same goes for cattle and sheep. My beef cattle (hereford & aberdeen angus ) will thrive on a lot rougher grazing compared to my neighbours dairy herd of holstein cattle who need specially selected grazing/forage and concertrates to allow them thrive and produce
@@Brad-jq9od plenty of dairy cattle can produce on grass alone. VERY little to no supplements. See "Graze " magazine. Latest issue lead article about an Indiana dairy selling to CROPP/Organic Valleys Grass milk program @ $40/cwt Jerseys producing 10,000 -11,000 lbs per year LESS what the calves are fed. No replacer, full milk ration. Genetics takes care of vigor, frame, feet, udders, etc. But it's feed quality and quantity that produces milk. Most Holsteins in US have bad genetics for grazing. You got to use NZ genetics for better feet & vigor.
*I really enjoy watching the goats roam freely in the pasture, they are happy goats*
Whoever produced this series is wicked talented.
Are you from the northeast?
We added goats to our small ranch to keep the pastures clean of brush. They did a good job and what started out as nine does and a buck wound up as 200 breeding does and 6 bucks. We rotated the breeding so we would have several kid crops a year. We found a market through a local butcher shop that liked our clean animals (free of desease), and they bought all we could supply. A good supplement to our cattle production.
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Nice. How many are you selling a year?
Should sell them to Kosher butchers.
Would probably earn more money for the same goat if you can meet their standards.
🤤 goat meat
Chivo is good eating.
Our city of Rocklin Ca uses goats and sheep every year to clear hills, wetland preserves, and every place that has brown grasses or weeds. So far, fire non-existent in our city. Plus, they are wonderful to watch when they attack those hills, etc. it’s been our eco-friendly way of not using herbicides to kills the weeds. Now, lots of neighboring cities are finally using them also.
Yup, same here In San Bernardino. Hills close to Downtown are currently being stripped by about 150 goats. The incline of the Hills doesn’t bother them at all. Lol.
Yep same here in Placerville.. Goats just mow down brush to reduce the flash fuels and reduce fire danger and lower rates of spread.. it’s a win win for all.
That is FANTASTIC. I love it.
Wonderful! I have been shouting for years, "California needs to put goats out there! They'll deal with those fires in no time!"
So happy to hear it's being done. And goats provide multiple benefits and streams of revenue. Not only can their controlled grazing reduce the spread of fires and regenerate the land, but their milk is delicious and can be sold as itself and used to make artisan cheeses. And more, if enough are bred, some could be butchered for meat, which is also delicious (and better than lamb, in my opinion).
Here in San Antonio they put about 500 goats in one of the parks down the street to do the exact same thing. It seemed to work. The park looked great afterwards.
An excellent and natural way to clear brush and weeds. More ranchers should use this method.
Nice. But, if you don't have enough brush, they refuse to eat the grass on their side of the fence. And, if they have horns, they can get in but not out. I wonder if a person could train a goat how to disentangle himself from the fence?
We need a large scale version of this to reduce western forest fire danger.
It used to be more balanced... but selective hunting of species has left everything unbalanced... add drought and Global warming... and the western forests are going to GO AWAY...
100%.
As someone who lives in those states. Goats ain't gonna fix it.
Controlled burns and government allowances for thinning harvests and maintenance are what's needed, but the USFS have their brains unplugged for the past four decades.
To eat the underlying brushes. We have horrendous bush fires in Australia . I wonder if it would work here .
It would work, and does work in many places. Trying looking up some regenerative or permaculture ranches and farms in Australia. I've seen plenty of videos of Australians using goats for just that purpose.
Glad to see this. California is starting to catch up, finally using goats to help clear underbrush that makes forest fires so hot.
Goats are an excellent tool for land management as well as a financial benefit as far as a livestock enterprise. We started with just a few and now run well over 250 head on primarily leased land and primarily utilizing electric fence. In areas as little as 2 acres all the way up to areas as big as 40 acres at one time. Moving them on to the next area as they clear it down. Keeping our land owners happy while the goats clear their brush that is other wise not utilized by their cattle. All the while keeping us happy while the goats pack on the pounds!
That’s fantastic! It’s a great opportunity to get some positive impacts for people that don’t want to invest into their own herd.
Do the goats get poisonous weeds etc too or only higher things like bushes and brush? We have wooded land to clear out as well as land that used to be wooded that no longer has trees but is still super full of all kinds of poison Ivy, brush, etc.
@@MFaith777I am about 90% sure goats can eat poison ivy.
Dog choice: A fantastic animal protection dog is a Kangal. We use one that is like a cruise missile at predators but kind and gentle to everything else. BIG. Hardy. Fearless. Dedicated. Gets along with chickens goats hogs and cows. Even the barn cats like her. And when strangers come to farm (delivery) no issues with her around new people.
Dogs are a gift from God.
Anatolian Shepard according to the 1992 U.S. Kennel Club. 🥰
This is so amazing to see such great ideas flowing thru the cattle industry.. Locally I have seen goats below a canopy of trees.. The goats eat all the underbrush and other vegetation to completely reduce fire issues in central California foothills.. The grazing acts like and under burn and cleans up the flash fuels in way many thought was not possible.. When I see goats turning the vegetation back to grass and making great grazing for cattle is off the charts.. Many great things are happening with out herbicides too.. a win win situation.. great video guys.. keep them coming..👍😁
Thank you RUclips. Great interesting content. Love to see people of the land working smarter, not harder.
Thanks for watching!
We are located in North Texas just across the border. We worked with Dr. Rohla on our Pecan Orchard. You guys are a wealth of knowledge. Thanks for sharing.
That's awesome! Dr. Rohla is pretty great!
Of course I'm drawn to the dogs.❤❤❤❤❤❤ such beautiful ladies
Sameee
Best background music I've ever heard on a documentary. Interesting subject too!...🇬🇧
Thank you! We are happy you enjoyed it. 🐐
They work well, used to graze 1000 to 1500 on brush here in northern Alberta when we had the goat and lamb feedlot. Much easier to keep in with electric fences than sheep. Sure helped the grass production for the cow herd.
Hey Chad! Thats great to hear! We have sheep on one of our other ranches and are having some good success with them too. It's been fun adding these new enterprises to our cattle ranches.
Is there an income stream from the goats?
@@roddraper9921 Yes, we will keep some of our kid crop as replacements, but we will sell off the wethers after weaning as well as some of the nannies. And just like any other livestock enterprise, we will cull any animals that are not thriving in our environment.
Where do you market them? Livestock auctions?
@@dirtymikentheboys5817 yep, we had good markets around any major cities where most immigrants are located. You want to eat what you are raised on it seems. Mostly cattle now as we we’ve gotten older and goats and sheep are very labor intensive. But they are a good way to start farming. That’s how I got started.
Cool video !!! NF goat cowboy now !!!! Goat and sheep are new fertilize and Forbes and brush control and plus new enterprise $$ !!!
Absolutely Kevin! Pretty great seeing the impact these sheep and goats are creating on our ranches.
Goats will eat near anything. Years ago a family we knew had some goats and one day after coming home they found two goats which had climbed up a tree next to their house and were laterally eating their roof - cedar I believe.🤣🤣
Oh no!! Hahaha! They do like eat crazy things for sure. They do eat some of the cedars on our ranch at different points of the year too.
@@NobleResearchInstitute 🤣🤣Yep they are critters
No wonder they are GOAT.
Because they're naturally browser species, not grazer.
@@sigitprabowo363 Plus I don't believe they have 4 stomachs and their dairy is A2. Very low maintance
THE COLOR and health goats,.. amazing goats,...
Goats are SO useful!
Absolutely! So far we are loving them!
Absolutely fascinating. Great video!
What you're trying to achieve is so important, and it's a learning process, so keep on keeping on guys.
Thank you! Will do!
I recently say a an old saying... (I think author was unknown) It read: "Make your fences horse high, bull strong, pig root proof, and goat wire size... " meaning tall, strong, push proof and made to keep dogs out and small livestock in.
Consider installing a Screech Owl nest box. Owls will eat rodents which host ticks and attract pit vipers.
Goats are as mischievous as they are cute. You have to protect everything around while dealing with them. I wish you patience.
Right? They are forever 3 year olds going through the "why" face.
Good on you.
What you're touching on is what Alan Savory pionered and proved to reverse Desertification
We know.
wow. 0:34 I think, this is Rip Wheeler. but where is John Dutton?
Thank you for this video, we really enjoyed it! So similar to our experience over the past year, figuring out hot fences and paddock sizes. 11 kV sounds just perfect 🤣
Thanks Jodi!
So good to see you diversifying. Appreciate the efforts you’re investing in. 👍🏼
I remember way back when we used to deride "Goat Herders" as not being real cowboys. Here from an old hand I am saying these boys are just as busy and just as concerned for their charges as any cowboy of his herd. My apologies my friends I have been shown the error of my old ways. Well done and keep up the great work !
Were they scruffy looking? Oh wait that's nerfs.
Yep when I was in school they made fun of me and my goats but I had money and they were broke
Still got goats at 72
Interesting project. Much success.
oklahoma goat ranchers.. whoed a thunk..
im just teasinnn..
weve raised goats, sheep, even camels and llamas with our cattle..
well done yall..
doc johnny vmd
texas and italy
Great video! I have dairy goats and they are helping change the landscaping for the better also. Goats are a great resource.
Yes they do! Thanks for sharing!
How much milk can your goat give per day?
"Goat Wrangling"! Knowing what little I know about goats and having had the thrill of briefly herding a small 75 - 80 herd, I do know that goats have an uncanny proclivity for trouble. They can go from " everything's OK" to complete chaos in a blink of an eye. I didn't have the luxury of a lot of electric fences but I did have some fairly decent Shepard dogs. Sure looks like these here are working out good for you.
So far so good! Thanks!
My mom didn't want me to take out one of our goats when I was little, but my dad overrode her . The goat took me out as I recall and I didn't have to be dragged very far before I let go of the rope. Ahh memories.....
😂🤣
In a Maxwell Smart voice: Ah, the old "Mum, can the Great Dane take me for a walk" trick.
You had a great Dad. I bet he gave your mom one of them looks "he 'bout to learn some let him do it" lol
We had about a dozen goats when I was a kid. A turbulant kid. I was fitting right in with them. The buck would attack my sister and everybody else. But for some reason he liked when I came around fornsome trouble 😂
Now that dude is America, literally the nicest dude in the world ... the real endangered species
Great video, one small jibe: It's easier for the solar panel to keep your batteries charged if it's actually pointed towards the sun... Simpler if you get a bifacial panel.
Impressed with the water setup. Wish it was connected to a well somewhere? Wouldn't have to worry about refill. A+++ job.
Y los políticos en el gobierno (Pedro Sánchez y sus seguidores) están al servicio de Soros y otros en el "deep state" o el cabál...Existe mucha corrupción e intervención para separar a Cataluña de España...No tienen bastante de haber hecho tanto daño que lo siguen haciendo todavía...Espero que los españoles despierten...Ya es hora de protestas y de defenderse...
moving the water also helps relocate the goats to a new focus point
I've got a little herd of 29 San Clemente Island goats that I'm using for fire hazard mitigation in the Napa/Sonoma/Lake County area of Northern California. They are wonderful in steep brushy terrain!
... Plus two Anatolian Shepherd/Great Pyrenees mix dogs. Keeps the coyotes, mountain lion, and bear away.
That's fantastic! Were you already having problems with fire and then starting using them to solve that issue, or did you know it could become one and got them as a preventative?
We've had major out of control wildfires the past several years throughout this whole North Bay area. I'm getting cranky about having to evacuate and decide which things are precious and which things I may lose forever. I'd heard the phrase "regenerative agriculture" several years ago and the concept of making sure there are animals on the land as well as plants. That lack of balance pretty obvious here in this human populated part of the world...with super high land values. It seems like herds of goats if carefully managed can do something like the large herds of deer and elk did for hundreds of not thousands of years. It's my small start in solving a big problem. I need to learn how to manage all aspects of this business; the goats, the dogs, portable electric fencing, truck and trailer and finally the customers! It's all good and very interesting :-)
Did PG&E ever hired you to clear under the power lines.
It’s never easy for me.
2:39-2:43 That’s exactly how I feel when my work day is progressing smoothly. 😂🤣😂
It’s never easy because you say it isn’t. Apply the Bible principles in your life and walk with God and you’ll see not just your work life flourish but have ever lasting life ‼️
@@walakirk5270 The way people use god to enrich themselves and or brainwash people into following how they fell about issues.
I’m good.
Combat those devils. leave me to myself. And maybe I’ll return.
Such an inspiring video. The way you taking video is amazing.
In maine I had trouble with the fence in the winter. Seems like cattle weren't ground because of snow. I split the two wires, kept the top line hot and ground the bottom with an old copper pipe. Solved the problem, I've told others that were having the same trouble, worked for them too. One thing is don't get yourself hit because its worse than a normal hit, you feel it go through you from live to ground almost like two hits.
Well, that was a lot more interesting than I expected. Thanks.
Would like to see where they sleep. Amazing work!!
Those are some good dogs! Great ranch dogs.
Yes, I am impressed with those dogs, they are also hard workers lol
Turkish kangal dogs...
Best meat ever salute from somalia
I've been trying to talk my husband into goats for Years! Now that we've moved onto 29 acres that was clear cut 5 years ago...and the 4 cows aren't eating down the brush as quickly as he'd like...he's entertaining the thought of goats. ...but I told him if he'd have gotten goats 5-10 years ago when I suggested we would have gotten them sooo much cheaper! What kind of goats are y'all running?
Hey Bonnie! Looks like you got a plan a brewin! They are becoming more and more popular and the great thing about them is that you can add small ruminants like goats to use the forage the cows won't, add another enterprise to the same acreage to help become more profitable, and do some great things for the land and soil as well.
BTW we run Spanish cross goats.
@@NobleResearchInstitute , I was pretty sure those were the old fashioned Spanish goats. But I'm not expert enough to tell for sure. Here in Deep East Texas that used to be what people ran. It's kind of difficult to find them here, now.
@@NobleResearchInstitute ...and by the way, hubby is thinking of keeping the young, Brangus bull and one Angus/Jersey heifer for milking. Maybe trade the 2 older jerseys (one is ancient and quite cantankerous) for goats. We'll see.
It looks like the South African boer goat. Adapts well to almost any conditions. However, any goat will do a great job if you're only looking to control weeds.
Many people are using boer or boer cross goats. They have a meatier body frame and you don't have to milk them. However, boer goats are notoriously bad Mommas. You must cull, and sometimes drastically until you weed out the bad moms. Bad moms often produce more bad moms. One cross that I accidently found producing really good mommas was fainting goat x boer. If you don't cull the bad moms out you'll find yourself swamped with bottle babies. Cute, but very time consuming.
You should have the Norwegian Nofence system on your goats, fence free. Can adjust the fence on the map/app
I looked it up, that's a pretty cool idea. Well done.
Brilliant!
I just now subscribed 👍👍👍
Goat meat is a must for many Indian dishes .Thanks for growing them
Point your solar panel south for optimal sun coverage.
Nice video. Thanks for sharing.
Great suggestion!
Great story and a great initiative
goats are houdini,s escape artists . that,s why they need always somebody to watch them . same in the midle east . but strong animals and eat everyting what nobody want to eat!!
Finally a pleasant video on You Tube
An all we have I see for a ground rod on that solar charger is 6'" of a T post?? 🙆♂️👌 impressive. Great video. Thanks
Glad you enjoyed it!
We have added a copper ground rod, at the time of the video we didn't have one yet
We did run a ground wire in the 3 wire fence when it was super dry. We ran it on the bottom and did have success with keeping them in using that. After we got a shower we went back to grounding with a copper rod.
good work gentlemen
Did you add a ground wire during the drought? Keeping them in during this drought has been a problem. What will shock our calves won’t even shock the goats
We did run a ground wire in the 3 wire fence when it was super dry. We ran it on the bottom and did have success with keeping them in using that. After we got a shower we went back to grounding with a copper rod
Great job and great video, hey would it be possible to use a 18" plastic drain pipe, 20' long, cut it vertical in half, seal the ends, and have a long water troft?
So mamy questions...
Does every goat need to be trained to the hot wire? Just how do you do that?
In an earlier video y'all mentioned not needing to deworm or vaccinate as often. Could you expand on that?
What size lots are you running 500 goats on? How do you determine how many you need or can support?
Great questions! We did train a huge majority of our initial herd. But they learn from each other and when a fence is hot enough, they learn by experience that is a barrier they don't want to come across again. It becomes more of a mental barrier. If there is a situation they feel merits crossing that fence, like a threat, or danger, they will cross it for sure.
We want to refrain from using any dewormers on our sheep and goats. We do vaccinate them (by Oklahoma law), but we have learned that the parasites that they come in contact with have a 21 day cycle, so as long as we move them often enough they are way less likely to ingest those parasites and get infected. We generally move every 1-2 weeks.
Our goats currently are on 10 acre paddocks. We know that we have enough forage in those areas for them to eat. The paddocks will vary as forage availability changes due to weather or topography etc. We started off with a little over 100 goats, but since we have such a huge area not grazable for cattle, we wanted a quicker impact. We may not sustain 500 goats forever, so we will determine each year to see how our landscape changes as we manage this way. Start smaller than you think what you might need and you can always add more goats. Starting smaller is better for fence training and acclimating to behaviors and so on, as well.
I have cliffs on my property that are impossible to mow or graze cattle. I got goats and its hilarious to look at my property and my neighbors.
I read somewhere that goats turned Three pounds of feed into one pound of meat and cattle are like 8 pound's of feed to one pound of meat. Not really sure about the numbers for cattle but you get the idea
Do you get aerial predators? Do your LGDs prevent losses well enough?
Whoop ! like the look of this. 1:17 in and I'm going to go find Ep. 1
Thanks! Hope you enjoy the series!
well you give us more information on the solar set up .and ruff price of setup . Please and Thank you .
🐐🐐🐐 GOATS amending that SOIL! 🤎🖤🤍
This is what I do at 0300, find interesting new content, like you. ✊🏻
Thank you! We are happy you found it interesting 🐐
This was a good learning video
Do you know the breed of guardian dog shown at 5:24 in the video? I know the Turkish kangal breed is also shown in the video. I am curious about the pure white short hair dog. Thanks!!!
Goats rock and they are cute.
Thanks for the video!!!
Great Job! Using nature to control nature! Wow! Apex Logic!
thanks for an excellent series!
Would love for this goat ranch to be an on going ep! Like Tom Pemberton UK farm videos lol
Great job guys...
Thanks!
Secondary are the pet-food market and the suitability / superiority of Goatskin for many items of apparel.
CHEESE! Don't overlook the popularity of goat-cheese.
The transition from 'cowboy'-to-'artisan' need not be painful. The 'Old-World' dealt with resource-management in a VERY elegant fashion.😏
In Oregon, viticulture has successfully leveraged marginal terrains and orchardists have begun capitalizing on secondary / premium bi-products (truffles, free-range pork, etc.) to rival their European competitors.
It not easy you are right on it work iv got sheep but I enjoy it like you do but it will clean up your farm
Could you use sheep
for the same purpose?
Some of the meat sheep
like the Dorset look promising.
Sheep won’t be able to get into thorny bushes as they do get stuck and need to be saved by human, which often happens in Australia. Also they need to be sheared professionally and that is costly unless you are doing that primarily. Are you going to process the wool? Totally different profession. It’s not like they shed their fur naturally. These guys aren’t doing for meat but to get green pastures for their cows. And sheep won’t be appropriate. Why would they get sheep when they have cows for meat? Have you been to Texas? You don’t see sheep there mostly cows.
I am from Bangladesh, i also want to watch every episode ❤❤❤
Going for ep one
Is posible soil regeneration, only with the André Voisin laws.
They are such characters!
Thank you for sharing.
Hi, do you try and harvest goat milk and create cheese etc ? How do you monetize the upkeep cost of so many goats ? I know you said that they clear the paddock for more cattle grazing but how does that increase revenue ? Thanks from a City Slicker
Hey! All great questions. All of our goats that are sold are usually meat goats. Because goats have a higher bred and birthing rate then we can determine how many we want/need to sell and how many we want to keep as replacement animals. With goats usually the highest cost for us is for our guardian animals (dogs in this case), for food, heart worm meds, ticks etc. We usually don’t have to feed them much if any during the winter months because there is usually something around they will eat. Sometimes we bring in some alfalfa for extra protein if needed. A lot of the fencing we had because of our cattle. Because they move so often we usually don’t have any kind of medical/vet issues.
When the goats clear out the brush in a paddock, it allows more grass to grow for the cows. That allows us to possibly add more cows to our herd because there is more to eat or utilize that extra forage in another way, like stockpiling the forage (leave it standing instead of grazing it.) and that becomes a great winter forage that we can use instead of buying hay, which is an added cost. It all depends on the context of your ranch and what would benefit it the most.
@@NobleResearchInstitute Hi, OK thanks for your explanation and GOOD LUCK !
@@NobleResearchInstituteDuckweed is easier to grow than alfalfa. It has a higher protein content.
Goat Heaven.
Does the local climate support feeding the goats outdoors year round?
The baby goats sure are cute.
You might want to try an automatic dog feeder with a hole that the dogs can jump through to get to the food....or perhaps had a collar that allows access to the food that only the dogs wear.
These ranchers are true blue American heroes. Keeping the land and their animals healthy. Bravo!
Goats are way to smart for their own good. They will sit there and study an issue and work out a solution. Watching them work a fence line to find a way out will amaze you. That said, you got a field of crap and briars, put goats on there and you will end up with a great pasture field in no time.
Spanish goat and keko are are great on pastured as well as closing with boar goat makes good meat goat
I’m 72 and slowly getting less goats every year and down to only 45 this year
It’s hard to stop after a lifetime of goats
You have shown improving grassland as a result of adding goats. How have your wildlife populations changed specifically bobwhite quail, turkeys and white-tailed deer?
Hey Rob! Great question. Our management as a whole should encourage more wildlife to call our ranches home. It's too early to say what the impact of the goats has on that yet. We are hoping to do an episode next year on the wildlife on our ranches, because we have noticed a bit more diversity just in the last couple of years.
I've heard several times over the years that goats, as opposed to sheep, need shelter (from rain?).
What is your experience not using shelter?
Death loss % every year?
Thanks
We rely on the canopy cover of the paddock where we graze for shelter from rain, and for shade. We have had very minimal death loss.
Goats don’t like getting wet feet and get foot rot if they are are in areas where they are getting wet feet a lot of the time.And they do like shelter out of the rain as well. Where as sheep can handle being out in the rain a lot better and can handle cold winds a lot better than goats.
But a new born goat is a hell of a lot tougher and gets to its feet a lot quicker when it’s born compared to a new born lamb.
And goats do not like electric fences and soon learn what they are and tend to stay away. We ran both goats and sheep here in New Zealand and these are things we observed.
And goats are a lot smarter than sheep and quick learner’s.
Goats hate rain, I have shed all over the place and protect them in winter also
Use electric water tanks heaters in winter and salt blocks
I feed corn and wheat planted for winter
Good video thanks
Do goats cope ok with bad weather and what management for winter or times of short grazing
If you live in colder climate you need to get certain breeds of goats that can thrive in cold weather. Many farmers in Canada have goats. But they usually stay indoor when below zero in winter months. They can be let out when it gets warmer. But they can’t stay outside in subzero temperatures, they freeze to death.
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Nice Kangal. Super strong.
Goats are like herbivore puppy/cat, they're playful, smart, and sometimes not easy to handle because of their inquisitive nature.
Yes! Goats have big personalities. It makes them challenging but also and entertaining and fun addition to a ranch.
Love them Goats
BBQ is very good as well!
I live in Meadows Valley Idaho. We pasture yearling steers, However, we have been plagued with a weed that we call crows foot. The cattle won't eat it, nor can you kill it successfully with chemicals. Do you know if the goats would eat the crow's foot? Also, do know if a person can lease goats along with their caretakers?
Thanks for the comment! While we don’t have crowfoot, or Indian goosegrass, on our ranches, we know it can be very invasive. But - there’s good news. Browsers, like goats, may eat it. So, instead of spending money on inputs that have been historically unsuccessful, you could make money on them through goats.
However, since we don’t have experience with it, we’d recommend you visit with Idaho extension folks and/or area ranchers who run sheep and goats. Learn from them what they know about small ruminants and the crowfoot. Under higher stock densities, goats may learn to eat it, but you’d want to make sure there are any highly toxic compounds in the forb that could create issues for livestock if they consume much crowfoot in their diet.
There are goat rental opportunities in many areas. Alternately, you may be able to lease part of your land to someone to run their goats on it. You might reach out to your county Extension office for recommendations.
Yes, you can contract goat herders to clear your land.
I had dairy goats for years. My girls were picky and only ate stuff I did not want them to eat. Like fruit trees and blueberries. They would not touch the Chinese Tallow, which my sheep will eat. I switched to sheep. Easier on everything including me and less hassle. I see the goats on your trailer. Have they pulled all the wires out of it yet and messed up your lights and breaks? They mess with everything.
They can be boogers for sure! So far they have not tore up any of the trailer parts. The guys have worked hard at trying to keep it all out of the way. We do have sheep on one of our other ranches and they are fun to have as well!
Sheep eat Chinese tallow?
Dang!
Never knew ANYTHING to eat that. The sap's so sticky and taste terrible.
Dairy seem nautier than boer. Just keep em hungry
Dairy breeds of goats are a lot pickier than meat breeds of goat. Dairy breeds require a higher protein & carb ration/diet to produce a high yield of milk, the same goes for cattle and sheep. My beef cattle (hereford & aberdeen angus ) will thrive on a lot rougher grazing compared to my neighbours dairy herd of holstein cattle who need specially selected grazing/forage and concertrates to allow them thrive and produce
@@Brad-jq9od plenty of dairy cattle can produce on grass alone. VERY little to no supplements.
See "Graze " magazine. Latest issue lead article about an Indiana dairy selling to CROPP/Organic Valleys Grass milk program @ $40/cwt
Jerseys producing 10,000 -11,000 lbs per year LESS what the calves are fed. No replacer, full milk ration.
Genetics takes care of vigor, frame, feet, udders, etc. But it's feed quality and quantity that produces milk.
Most Holsteins in US have bad genetics for grazing. You got to use NZ genetics for better feet & vigor.
so cool.... you love your animals....