I'd be a lot more confident if Starliner's speaker system wasn't possessed by the ghost of Vladimir Komorov banging on the hull of his Soyuz 1 capsule.
I predict that Starliner's undocking and return will be uneventful and anticlimactic. It seems that Boeing's engineers do have a decent understanding of the RCS thruster overheating issues, and have a plan to circumvent the problems using software and procedure updates. I wish them the best of luck. But, after the landing, where will we go from there...?
I'm surprised you asked after a good guess on what probably happens tomorrow. The answer is another Starliner mission paid for by Boeing to qualify the craft coming sometime after that likely-uneventful return trip, but I don't know how much prep time they would need. Maybe 3-6 months? But success certainly isn't guaranteed on Friday, so it will be very interesting to watch.
@@findlisa5 There's no guarantee that NASA will require a 2nd crewed test mission after Starliner returns. They might certify Starliner after a review period of a few months if the uncrewed return flight proceeds uneventfully, showing that Boeing engineers have gotten a good handle on the RCS thruster failures. I suspect NASA fears that Boeing will back-out of the contract otherwise, perhaps selling its 50% share of ULA to Sierra Space to pay for the Starliner cost overruns and moving on. NASA has not answered questions on this topic in its press briefings. This is why I posed the question.
So what would you do, have it fixed in orbit?? Since it is returning without a crew and Starliner must be returned at some point obviously the risk can be managed for its return. As stated in the video the problematic aft thrusters will be used less to improve the odds of an uneventful return.
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Boeing could probably rebuild your same house for around 2.8 billion dollars in only 12 years. The problem is some of the mechanics of your new home might not work properly.
Getting the popcorn popped... the beers chilled.... the lawn-chairs set.... a $6 Billion-dollar boondoggle ought to make quite a spectacular light show.... with all those little pieces burning-up in Earth's atmosphere
This video's recommendation was sandwiched between airplane crash investigation video's. Let's keep our fingers crossed. Glad NASA didn't populate the thing.
Perhaps Boeing will have more mess to clean up. Looks like a hell of a lot of stuff cramped in there were was all this stored on the space station in the cupboard under the stairs. Saves taking it to the recycling centre. If it burns up.
Nobody has said that Starliner is viable and safe to fly again. After all Butch and Suni are not returning on it. And NASA will not be sending up Starliner for another test until the RCS thruster issue is resolved.
In the unlikely event that one or more of the thrusters malfunctioned, the landing capsule may end up in a wrong trajectory or tumbling out of control. None of them is good and the landing capsule may burn up in the atmosphere as the heat shield is not facing the right way. NASA cannot take such a risk however unlikely it is. Regardless, the Boeing Starliner program is done. Look for Boeing's announcement next week. NASA may put out another call for alternative to Space-X because they need two viable options. Another possibility is to rely on Space-X and accelerate the decommissioning of ISS. But money spent with Boeing is down the drain.
NASA already have an alternative to Boeing - Dreamer Chaser was designed as a manned reentry vehicle but has been derated for use as an unmanned supply vehicle. The first is due for launch later this year (it was delayed because of ULA having “issues” with the booster). A second vehicle is being sold to EASA for their use.
The cult cheers when one spaceship explodes over the ocean. The cult boos when another spaceship lands safely. (it did land safely btw. not sure if space bucket covers positive boeing stories. 🙄)
Asking social media to embrace nuance and understand mixed results is like asking a 4-year-old to grow up. The maturity of groups of people is defined by their worst elements, so the overall maturity drops as the group grows larger - and social media covers the largest group possible.
If Boeing has already spent all the money the government provided for the Starliner, money for further development of this vehicle will cost Boeing many millions of dollars. So if you are a Boeing bean-counter/executive, making sure the capsule DOESN'T survive re-entry has two benefits: 1.) it makes it look like you made the correct decision for astronaut safety, and 2.) It might get the Starliner program cancelled, thus saving Boeing money in the long run.
... They should be redesigning the thruster so it doesn't *need* a valve that can overheat. If they can *afford* to stay in the spaceflight game, that is. SpaceX doesn't have this problem. Airbus doesn't have this problem. Lockheed doesn't have this problem. The Apollo program didn't have this problem. The Russians don't have this problem. And though they don't talk about their failures and off-nominal events, the Chinese don't (appear to) have this problem. MR-104J is a monoprop thruster. Just bite the bullet and go with an R-4D derivative (hypergolic biprop) like just about everyone else. Crewed flight isn't the place to go cowboy on your designs. (Unless you're willing to rapidly iterate and discover everything that can go wrong before you put it into orbit.)
Wait, wait, wait, wait! First of all, Boeing sends squatters to the space station in a bucket. Now they want to bring those people back in the same bucket? They say a hard lessons not soon forgotten.
With any luck since it be unmanned, it will burn up and that will prove what a hugely wasteful load of rubbish that capsule is! Boeing can't even build airliners that don't work or not fall apart in use so this waste of money capsule proves that the company is had it as a company? They should save what money is left from this over late over budget rubbish designed launch system and scrap the whole useless system, scrap the SLS rocket too. Another rubbish wasteful system the SLS, think about it that too was well late being done, it was 3 times over budget and has tons of faults Plus every mission they are throwing away the whole rocket launch unit wasting those very hard to get main rock engines. They should have gone for a 100% reusable rocket system like space x do, then the rocket money lost each flight would not be so! even if the bad designed faulty capsule starliner was to as it did fail at least Boeing would still have something to show for the billions wasted on the system as the rocket would be saved from the being axed as it be reusable and fine they only then need to scrap the capsule. Terrible waste of time and money the whole system is now, put's back the Moon missions years now. Get Space X to take the full mission over as at least their rockets and capsules work fine and already had hundreds of successful missions to the ISS.
My read is that this isn't a "crewed" procedure departure and return. Babying the thrusters so they don't misbehave. Which would require another mission to prove the crate will work when its going to carry crew. At this rate Boing will be ready to carry crew a year after the station has been burned up in the atmosphere. Well done NASA and Boing!
Not an issue and the crew are more than happy to be there as long as they possibly can. They are astronauts. Their entire life goal is to spend as much time in space as possible.
Nasa's inabibilty to bring this spacecraft down is shocking, Boeing what are you doing?! You are making unprofessional look like a talent! You are playing with peoples lives! Is this a game for Boeing?
Vegas odd makers have recovery 1:1000000000. It hitting the ISS at leaving 1:100. A great show 100:1. Boeing has been company ruined by wokism and unions, strange how those two work together to destroy anything in no time.
@@executivesteps Not really, Over budget, delayed for years, and crew failed to return on it. Starliner 4.2b overruns +1.5b, SpaceX 2.6b who has preformed multiple times and returned their crews? Starliner was supposed to be operational 2017 what year is it now? Like I said Unions+DEI=FAILURE. If your referencing my Satire of odds and failure well I guess the inference was not apparent enough for you. Cancel Reply
24 hours from the time the video posted which was about 3pm EST in the US which would put it about 15 hours earlier in Sydney, Australia. At least that's my best guess.
The real reason for sniffing for hydrazine is actually very interesting. Upon landing and realizing they're in New Mexico, there's a very high probability of astronauts intentionally drinking hydrazine as the avalanche of despair washes over them.
Loading cargo? What kind of cargo tho it can't be something that they care to lose as what if this thing burns up before it gets back to Earth? Is the cargo something that could blow up Starliner if it goes out of control along the way? Hmmm
Star liner is a Boeing "ruptured duck" that probably will enter Earth's atmosphere in a steep reentry that will burn the spacecraft up !!! The Star liner's thrusters will be unbalanced spinning the capsule into a fiery death. Small wonder NASA will not trust the two astronauts safety to the ruptured duck.
That fairy tale that you just churned out has a very low probability of happening, but I understand that some people like to make up a catastrophe for future events. Whatever dude. . .
They don't have bowling Engineers of the past therefore they should shut the program down until they train Engineers to do the work they need. And workers fully trained to operate the equipment and do their jobs certified before the project is even started. Discontinued any Boeing projects
Wouldn't it be better to have a truster /retro that you don't heat soak within it own normal operating parameters? I mean what if they do have to used these things at full chat what that means they fail? You have this with a heat shield ether it deals with the angle of attack or it doesn't. I'm sure it will make it back but I don't think I trust a system that can't do what its original spec denotes
@@VisionBoard-tc1cd Yes, but the thruster problems are known from analysis and testing to be related to overheating, not the helium system (which has plenty of margin). I'm sure they'll take some corrective actions on the helium leak, but it's not a significant concern for getting back safely.
It has a high probability of returning safely. But that high probability is not high enough to risk Butch and Suni returning on it. In the same way there is more latitude with the weather conditions when Starliner is returning uncrewed.
Yeah sure that must be it. It couldn't be that Starliner was determined to be unreliable for a return flight. And it couldn't be because there is no scheduled launch to the ISS by Dragon until early next year! 🙄🙄🙄 👈Mega eye roll.
Like Benny Hill once said, why would you name an aircraft company with the sound an airplane makes when it hits the ground
"Assuming everything goes as planned..." Why would they start going to plan now and ruin their record?
Yosarrian's thrusters: the thrusters work perfectly as long they are never used. If the thrusters are used, they do not work.
hahaha, good one.
I actually got that.
Nice.
Wrong again?
Looking forward to see another meteorite show
Which shower?
as Arte Johnson would have said: "Very interesting"
Laughing In outloud! 😂
Who else thinks some part of the Starliner landing workflow will fail?
Absolutely something will fail.
I have a bad feeling about this.
The workflow I have no idea what that is but I bet about a fail somewhere between undocking and landing
They’ve mentioned they know not to overheat the thrusters so I’d bet it will all go ok.
naw, its going to be fine.
After Boeing has fleeced the American people for a decade I hope they never get a contract for anything space related ever again.
Did I hear that correctly? They won’t change the hardware but change the thrusters burst pattern so it won’t overheat?
Yes.
Why and how could they change the hardware anyway?!
Yup. Typical Boeing. Fixing a hardware issue with a software patch.
@@michaeldeierhoi4096not changing hardware was mentioned on future flights as well.
@@frogcassady The two work hand in hand and changes in procedure have been used in engineer as a solution for.. ever.
I'd be a lot more confident if Starliner's speaker system wasn't possessed by the ghost of Vladimir Komorov banging on the hull of his Soyuz 1 capsule.
It’s the alien trapped inside and asking for help.
I predict that Starliner's undocking and return will be uneventful and anticlimactic. It seems that Boeing's engineers do have a decent understanding of the RCS thruster overheating issues, and have a plan to circumvent the problems using software and procedure updates. I wish them the best of luck. But, after the landing, where will we go from there...?
I'm surprised you asked after a good guess on what probably happens tomorrow. The answer is another Starliner mission paid for by Boeing to qualify the craft coming sometime after that likely-uneventful return trip, but I don't know how much prep time they would need. Maybe 3-6 months? But success certainly isn't guaranteed on Friday, so it will be very interesting to watch.
@@findlisa5 There's no guarantee that NASA will require a 2nd crewed test mission after Starliner returns. They might certify Starliner after a review period of a few months if the uncrewed return flight proceeds uneventfully, showing that Boeing engineers have gotten a good handle on the RCS thruster failures. I suspect NASA fears that Boeing will back-out of the contract otherwise, perhaps selling its 50% share of ULA to Sierra Space to pay for the Starliner cost overruns and moving on. NASA has not answered questions on this topic in its press briefings. This is why I posed the question.
1:23 My God, what did these people SEE?!?
Boeing probably bitching to them endlessly about Starliner.
The ghosts of Butch and Sundance.
😂😂😭💀
"Boeing's Starliner Is Ready for Its Return to Earth"!? Are you kidding!? It was never ready to leave Earth!
So what would you do, have it fixed in orbit??
Since it is returning without a crew and Starliner must be returned at some point obviously the risk can be managed for its return.
As stated in the video the problematic aft thrusters will be used less to improve the odds of an uneventful return.
If it once again has thruster issues and lands in the middle of some city, can someone other than Boeing rebuild your house?
I sure hope so! I really don't want my front door falling off on my way to work
Thrusters fail, burns up on re-entry.
Probably a good idea to unload BA stock, first thing in the morning....
Earlier this year, a piece of Space Junk ejected by a SpaceX Dragon, docked at the ISS, crashed through the roof of suburban home in the United States, narrowly missing a young boy in his living room.
The SpaceX space junk was the same size and weight as a 40mm mortar shell.
Now, SpaceX is facing the Worlds first Court case for "Damages from Space Junk" by the boys father, who is also the home owner, supported by his insurance companies.
Despite Elon Musks assertions that no danger is posed at all, SpaceX space junk is now a proven threat to the American people; who have taken this South African salesman at his word. He has broken their trust.
This pivitol Court case against SpaceX is being very closely watched by the US Congress, NASA, Commercial Space, the US Public and the World.
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Boeing could probably rebuild your same house for around 2.8 billion dollars in only 12 years. The problem is some of the mechanics of your new home might not work properly.
7:10 *IF* we get the vehicle back
Getting the popcorn popped... the beers chilled.... the lawn-chairs set.... a $6 Billion-dollar boondoggle ought to make quite a spectacular light show.... with all those little pieces burning-up in Earth's atmosphere
I didn’t see it. Where should I have looked?
i hope you sat out there all night like Linus waiting for the Great Pumpkin. Hey! maybe we should bring back "blockhead" as an insult!
@@executivestepsjust wait for ift5 😂
This video's recommendation was sandwiched between airplane crash investigation video's. Let's keep our fingers crossed. Glad NASA didn't populate the thing.
😂
It better work
it already failed so it was declared unsage for asttonauts, all it can do now is land, in one or many pieces, hopefuly
Can't say I am surprised this is how it ended up.
'Helium leaks? Launch it anyway, it'll be fine!' - boeing probably
As a taxpayer and space enthusiast, I hope this spacecraft and any other Boeing spacecraft NEVER flies again.
I'd rather see all the old McDonnell Douglass management fined and fired with boeing restructured and given some moral backbone, but to each their own
Make sure they lock the door !!
Corners and doors, kid, it's where Boeing gets you...
(With apologies to Miller.)
Well said
Love The Expanse
This will be the first time this vehicle does something on time… 🤭
(If there aren’t any delays 😂)
SPLAT Bubble, Bubble, Bubble.!!🙄
"Trashcan-Liner" seems more appropriate.
Perhaps Boeing will have more mess to clean up. Looks like a hell of a lot of stuff cramped in there were was all this stored on the space station in the cupboard under the stairs. Saves taking it to the recycling centre. If it burns up.
Future certification? How about future lawsuits and fines?
Hoping to see nasa's incompetence be advertised by flaming streaks across the sky
NASA didn't make it and NASA is who decided to send it back without crew for safety, exactly because they are competent.
I missed the flaming streaks?
Hey, let's just put our malfunctioning capsule in reverse and floor it, and see what happens! Sounds like a Boeing idea
They prolly wanna get the thing as far away from ISS as quickly as possible in case something fails.
Im sure everything will go as planned
Here before the hopeless fan boys come here to shit on actually skilled and talented engineers. It'll probably be perfectly fine.
LMFAO THE TALENTED ONES WORK FOR ELON 😂😂😂@@Gnefitisis
@@My_Fair_Lady Try posting when you learn how to spell. It's "they're"!
The thrusters overheat, but they are still viable and safe for future missions? I'd say, "Oh hell no!!!
Nobody has said that Starliner is viable and safe to fly again. After all Butch and Suni are not returning on it. And NASA will not be sending up Starliner for another test until the RCS thruster issue is resolved.
In the unlikely event that one or more of the thrusters malfunctioned, the landing capsule may end up in a wrong trajectory or tumbling out of control. None of them is good and the landing capsule may burn up in the atmosphere as the heat shield is not facing the right way. NASA cannot take such a risk however unlikely it is. Regardless, the Boeing Starliner program is done. Look for Boeing's announcement next week. NASA may put out another call for alternative to Space-X because they need two viable options. Another possibility is to rely on Space-X and accelerate the decommissioning of ISS. But money spent with Boeing is down the drain.
NASA already have an alternative to Boeing - Dreamer Chaser was designed as a manned reentry vehicle but has been derated for use as an unmanned supply vehicle. The first is due for launch later this year (it was delayed because of ULA having “issues” with the booster).
A second vehicle is being sold to EASA for their use.
talk about a late video did they not know that the star liner undocking was posted live by NASA
LIVESTREAMED!?! ohh boy ohh boy oohh boyy!🎉
I look forward to whatever happens... Both outcomes will be a RUclips feast of hilarity.
Shouldn’t they be warning more people about this?!
Why? Are you under the impression anyone would be in danger on the ground? That is not the case.
@@filonin2 we’ll see
How many other parts/systems on starliner are going to fail during attempted reentry?! Heat shields, parachute’s?! Zero confidence in Boeing
Boing finally got a plan, blaming the crew for using the thrusters too much,we’ll never know how close they came to losing the crew.
Thanks Man!
If that piss of shit damages the space station on un docking there will be hell to pay. That thing is a waste of taxpayers money.
At least without a crew, nobody is Boeing to die. 🤣
Watch the skies for falling lemons.🍋🍋🍋🍋🍋🍋
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The cult cheers when one spaceship explodes over the ocean. The cult boos when another spaceship lands safely.
(it did land safely btw. not sure if space bucket covers positive boeing stories. 🙄)
Asking social media to embrace nuance and understand mixed results is like asking a 4-year-old to grow up. The maturity of groups of people is defined by their worst elements, so the overall maturity drops as the group grows larger - and social media covers the largest group possible.
I wouldnt climb into that thing
EVERY MISSION OF STAR-LINER IS A CRUDE FLIGHT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NASA should fill the Starliner with all the trash and contaminants and send it back directly to Boeing.
Well, let's hope Boeing don't screw this up...
Without customer test out to earth?
Great update. Thank you so much.
Here’s to hoping for a smooth ride back down to Earth!
It's a good bet most of us want to see these astronauts returned safely and with no drama.
If Boeing has already spent all the money the government provided for the Starliner, money for further development of this vehicle will cost Boeing many millions of dollars. So if you are a Boeing bean-counter/executive, making sure the capsule DOESN'T survive re-entry has two benefits: 1.) it makes it look like you made the correct decision for astronaut safety, and 2.) It might get the Starliner program cancelled, thus saving Boeing money in the long run.
Boeing’s Starliner Spacecraft Is Ready For Its Return To Earth. WOW! Already? It just landed last night. That is a really fast turn around.
... They should be redesigning the thruster so it doesn't *need* a valve that can overheat. If they can *afford* to stay in the spaceflight game, that is.
SpaceX doesn't have this problem. Airbus doesn't have this problem. Lockheed doesn't have this problem. The Apollo program didn't have this problem. The Russians don't have this problem. And though they don't talk about their failures and off-nominal events, the Chinese don't (appear to) have this problem.
MR-104J is a monoprop thruster. Just bite the bullet and go with an R-4D derivative (hypergolic biprop) like just about everyone else. Crewed flight isn't the place to go cowboy on your designs. (Unless you're willing to rapidly iterate and discover everything that can go wrong before you put it into orbit.)
Wait, wait, wait, wait!
First of all, Boeing sends squatters to the space station in a bucket.
Now they want to bring those people back in the same bucket?
They say a hard lessons not soon forgotten.
With any luck since it be unmanned, it will burn up and that will prove what a hugely wasteful load of rubbish that capsule is!
Boeing can't even build airliners that don't work or not fall apart in use so this waste of money capsule proves that the company is had it as a company?
They should save what money is left from this over late over budget rubbish designed launch system and scrap the whole useless system, scrap the SLS rocket too.
Another rubbish wasteful system the SLS, think about it that too was well late being done, it was 3 times over budget and has tons of faults Plus every mission they are throwing away the whole rocket launch unit wasting those very hard to get main rock engines.
They should have gone for a 100% reusable rocket system like space x do, then the rocket money lost each flight would not be so! even if the bad designed faulty capsule starliner was to as it did fail at least Boeing would still have something to show for the billions wasted on the system as the rocket would be saved from the being axed as it be reusable and fine they only then need to scrap the capsule. Terrible waste of time and money the whole system is now, put's back the Moon missions years now.
Get Space X to take the full mission over as at least their rockets and capsules work fine and already had hundreds of successful missions to the ISS.
My read is that this isn't a "crewed" procedure departure and return. Babying the thrusters so they don't misbehave. Which would require another mission to prove the crate will work when its going to carry crew. At this rate Boing will be ready to carry crew a year after the station has been burned up in the atmosphere. Well done NASA and Boing!
Boeing better pray that thing doesn’t burn up or they’re in for a royal shit show lol.
No prayers are necessary as NASA will make sure to take proper steps to return Starliner safely.
Don't you mean ANOTHER royal shit show?
Straliner has prooved itself whilst NASA paniced!
Is it ready? Or will it fail? In the mean time, it is glorious Elon's SpaceX Dragon is ensuring a safer return to Earth.
Returning to earth is a catch phrase for going to the trash heap. I want my money back.
Daily Mail: The frightening amount of radiation NASA's stranded astronauts have endured because of Boeing's faulty spaceship
Not an issue and the crew are more than happy to be there as long as they possibly can. They are astronauts. Their entire life goal is to spend as much time in space as possible.
Hope it goes well.🤞🤞
Starliner Maxx
It’ll burn up sure as sht!
As if you understand how returning from the ISS actually works?!?! 😂😆
Wrong again!
Anyone making bets on this thing.
Good ridens
What's the betting line ? What's the betting that the ISS is dragged down too ?
Since that literally cannot happen, I'll bet everything that it won't.
Some people like to catastrophize?! 🙄
Hope you didn’t lose much on your bet.
@@executivesteps ruclips.net/video/s0ANTtEH25Y/видео.htmlsi=hWCC8DdUc0xf3Bw9. Nope , dei is the reason and this is the result .
@@executivesteps ruclips.net/video/s0ANTtEH25Y/видео.htmlsi=hWCC8DdUc0xf3Bw9.
This is going to be interesting.
Pray to God it will disconnect. If not it will be hell of the problems for Boeing and NASA. WORRIED.
I did not know there were issues with the docking port. To what do you refer?
I’m glad I’m not on it.
Nasa's inabibilty to bring this spacecraft down is shocking, Boeing what are you doing?! You are making unprofessional look like a talent! You are playing with peoples lives! Is this a game for Boeing?
Wrong again?
Could the module bounce back to the space station ?
or enter in wrong angle and burn on reentry
bounce exactly in that orbit is unlikely, a higher or a lower one is easy
@@betag24cn Worst case of skipping off the atmosphere is that you reenter on another orbit.
@@AmbientMorality yes, but wont be the exact same you came from, most likely a lower orbit, but is in fact, a guess
I have a feeling it will going well. And make it more confusing if Nasa will continue work with Boeing or not.
Swell/Smell
JUNK .
So I guess the astronauts will pull a countdown rip cord, get out and send it back to earth. Hum, ....
hopefully it's just trash they are loading up.
No it isn't. The returning cargo includes, supplies no longer needed, crew personal items, tools, exercise equipment and other misc items.
I’d love to know, apart from this two, is there no other person in the ISS at the moment?
Yes, the regular crew are there.
I reckon they will deliberately keep it up there for a few days to extend their testing range.
and...what if it burns up upon re-entry?
Then it burns up.
Then Boeing will be savaged in the comments.
What are you even asking? Then it can't sit in a museum?
@@filonin2un a museum as a picture, burn at reentry usually leaves very diminute pieces that most times are not possible to identify
And what if it doesn’t?
Vegas odd makers have recovery 1:1000000000. It hitting the ISS at leaving 1:100. A great show 100:1. Boeing has been company ruined by wokism and unions, strange how those two work together to destroy anything in no time.
Wrong again?
@@executivesteps Not really, Over budget, delayed for years, and crew failed to return on it. Starliner 4.2b overruns +1.5b, SpaceX 2.6b who has preformed multiple times and returned their crews? Starliner was supposed to be operational 2017 what year is it now? Like I said Unions+DEI=FAILURE. If your referencing my Satire of odds and failure well I guess the inference was not apparent enough for you.
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This piece of junk will be a fire show
Great IR views of the landing - don’t you think?
I wouldn't want to be on it for re-entry either.
More space junk.....
hopefully not, hopefully.
so i am in australia anyone know what time the starliner undocking
24 hours from the time the video posted which was about 3pm EST in the US which would put it about 15 hours earlier in Sydney, Australia. At least that's my best guess.
@@michaeldeierhoi4096 thank you
I think starliner will land safely
The real reason for sniffing for hydrazine is actually very interesting. Upon landing and realizing they're in New Mexico, there's a very high probability of astronauts intentionally drinking hydrazine as the avalanche of despair washes over them.
Obviously you’ve never been to New Mexico.
I’m betting it lands perfectly, undermining all these fears
Likely.
Loading cargo? What kind of cargo tho it can't be something that they care to lose as what if this thing burns up before it gets back to Earth? Is the cargo something that could blow up Starliner if it goes out of control along the way? Hmmm
I'm guessing it will be rubbish and other stuff they would have gotten rid of...
@@chrisantoniou4366 Stuff for weight purposes?
poop and trash i bet
@@MissX905 Possibly... although one would think that a deorbit burn could be calculated for an empty Starliner if need be.
Star liner is a Boeing "ruptured duck" that probably will enter Earth's atmosphere in a steep reentry that will burn the spacecraft up !!! The Star liner's thrusters will be unbalanced spinning the capsule into a fiery death. Small wonder NASA will not trust the two astronauts safety to the ruptured duck.
That fairy tale that you just churned out has a very low probability of happening, but I understand that some people like to make up a catastrophe for future events. Whatever dude. . .
“Probably” you’re wrong.
Oh
Does anyone know what is the cargo being returned to earth on the starliner.
Poop
Insurance companies and roofing contractors nation wide have been put on high alert ! They have been instructed to answer their phones this weekend.
They don't have bowling Engineers of the past therefore they should shut the program down until they train Engineers to do the work they need. And workers fully trained to operate the equipment and do their jobs certified before the project is even started. Discontinued any Boeing projects
Wouldn't it be better to have a truster /retro that you don't heat soak within it own normal operating parameters? I mean what if they do have to used these things at full chat what that means they fail? You have this with a heat shield ether it deals with the angle of attack or it doesn't. I'm sure it will make it back but I don't think I trust a system that can't do what its original spec denotes
Agree. What sort of thruster system overheats and fails when used "normally"?
@@chrisantoniou4366 indeed
Helium leak…….
The helium leak is completely fine. The thruster issues are the ones that were concerning NASA, though I think they are likely to work.
@@AmbientMorality helium is what pressurizes and helps control the thrusters no?
@@VisionBoard-tc1cd Yes, but the thruster problems are known from analysis and testing to be related to overheating, not the helium system (which has plenty of margin). I'm sure they'll take some corrective actions on the helium leak, but it's not a significant concern for getting back safely.
What are the odds that it will make a normal reentry and landing? Anyone?
It has a high probability of returning safely. But that high probability is not high enough to risk Butch and Suni returning on it. In the same way there is more latitude with the weather conditions when Starliner is returning uncrewed.
99% - but that is below what NASA now considers acceptable.
cant risk crispy astronauts on an election year. better they stay in space 6 extra months for no reason.
Yeah sure that must be it. It couldn't be that Starliner was determined to be unreliable for a return flight. And it couldn't be because there is no scheduled launch to the ISS by Dragon until early next year! 🙄🙄🙄 👈Mega eye roll.
@@michaeldeierhoi4096Where do you get your misinformation?
@@executivesteps I have gremlin that I talk to for my best info. He never fails!
hopefully it will succeed. at least boeing would be able to claim partial success.