Thanks and I truly enjoy watching two of you interact with each other and it was truly amusing and funny enough to watch. Keep up the good work and God bless!
Thank you, Lisa is so talented. I am a Luddite when it comes to learning languages… Lisa keeps me laughing as I tip toe through life, because she embraces life with such energy and joy. I am glad you could see that 😃 ❤️
This demonstration was amazing. Loved the humor, chemistry, and technology. This definitely helped me make my decision on purchasing the Timekettle WT2 Edge. Thanks.
I was actually thinking about buying these and decided to check some reviews and found this video. Ian and Lisa were funny to watch. I have been in Beijing for more than 7 years and never attempted to learn Chinese. Mostly due to laziness, partly due to not needing to learn due to how easy it is to live in Beijing without speaking Chinese, and a little because I would rather learn Thai. I wonder if Ian and Lisa are still in Beijing?
Thank you for watching the video baeshin and we are still in Beijing. I know what you mean about living in China and getting by without knowing Chinese. I know a little now thanks to the earphones we demonstrated 👍
@@ForAllLifesAdventures I am definitely going to buy some for myself to just make life just that little bit easier. Would come in handy when speaking to the elderly, children, or people that just don't speak English. There is probably a bit of fun that could be had with them as well. You and Lisa were fun to watch. Definitely going to subscribe. I actually was only planning to stay in China for a year. Each year I would say it's my last and ended up being here over 7 years. I could have definitely learned Chinese by now haha
@@baeshin thanks for subscribing. Lisa and I have a couple of videos coming over the next couple of weeks.. I hope you like. I know what you mean about Beijing, I came over for three months, went back to the U.K. and then knew I needed to come back and I have been here for 6 years now. It gets under the skin in a good way. 👍
I am surprised Beijingers don't smack you down for not learning Mandarin for 7 years. I lived there for 4 years and after my attempts to learn Mandarin were not good enough for Beijingers' ears, I gave up and lived in the CBD where I didn't need to use it. Whenever I traveled west of Wangfujing I encountered fewer English speakers and eventually discovered like 90% of the city was English intolerant.
@@tperk Typically when I use Chinese, I get told that my Chinese is "sooo good", even though I know it's not. Everything I learned, I just randomly picked up. I couldn't pass the HSK1 or whatever they call that test. Also, I wouldn't listen to a Beijing on Chinese speaking, as the add "R" sounds to random words.
Loving your content creations about life over in China. Similar to the Barretts channel on YT and many others. PS your editing skills have got better. Appreciate the hard work and thank you. Keep them coming
Lisa is so adorable. I am glad that you did not cut any of this out. I was grinning and laughing and falling in love with the both of you. I am preparing for my first trip to Bangkok for major dental work and to see the city and enjoy the people. I will be buying the newest version W4 Pro. I can't wait to use it.
Thank you, she is incredible and so smart and makes my stupidity ever so more obvious. Thank you for watching and the company that makes the translation tools make a lot of great stuff and I am NOT paid or associated with the company - they just made a greta product that helped me a lot. Have a great trip.
@@ForAllLifesAdventures I'm going to buy the W4 Pro that just came out. Do you get any commission if I buy through you? I'll be using it in Bangkok next month when I go for some major dental work.
@@coresupportservices9065@coresupportservices9065 No, I have no affiliation and I don't do promotions or sponsorship deals as I wanted to keep my voice and own stuff. I just liked the company and the products that they have helped my travels. They are great products but thanks for the offer. I use the small fluent talk hand held device and it is brilliant - never let me down yet.
I enjoyed this very much and I am not even interested in language, technology, or travel lol. I am even thankful for the trolls who showed up the in comments attempting to be offensive. Their opinions were also very valuable to me. They help remind me that only our individual self can control how we show up in this world. They choose to attempt to be hurtful towards people. They miss out on so much in their lifetimes by being this way. I believe you two are absolutely brilliant and thank you for sharing this beautifully imperfect moment with humanity. I will not subscribe as this channel's content is of no interest to this particular ego, but I will most definitely like this video as it is certainly valuable to you and many others. Great review and demonstration. Blessings, friends.
Thank you for your kind words William as they inspire me. The hope and positivity for life and happiness that you reflected in your comments are inspirational. I truly enjoyed reading and reflecting on your words. Thank you for your honesty and I wish you all the happiness in the world. 👍 Iain.
need some help please how do i use the M3 to listen to a live group talk on tiktok from my phone - translate from chinese (example) to english to the ear bud the ear bud is connecting to my phone i hear them but still is in chinese not translating them talking in english or is this not possible ?
It is possible but can be laggy as there are many voices. Have you got the language correct in the translation, you have to set it to what language is being translated to what?
Hi Ian thank you for your video, this was very entertaining to watch and thanks for making us all laugh. I have just recently purchased the wt2edge in Shenzhen and must say I am very impressed with them. With regards to the manual mode it does have its own benefits. For example if I’m walking along the beach with my girlfriend and we are just having short conversation sometimes I’ll change to manual mode because my girlfriend will tend to hum to herself and the humming will then be translated into several um um 😂. But in fairness I only really use them with my girlfriend if we are going to have an in-depth conversation. Also time kettle recommend changing to manual mode in a noisy environment, however simu mode works fine. Since releasing this video the app interface and performance has improved. I find the offline translation works fine now for me. Cheers hope all is going well for you up there in Beijing. Best regards Mark
Hi Mark, thank you for enjoying the video and yeah, we did have a laugh also when making the video... Lisa is fluent in a number of languages so I was not being clear on what we were trying to do, hence the confusion and hilarity trying to work it all out. The wt2edge are great, but like you, I tend to use them with very few people because of the fact that they are earpieces. I have since then started using the fluent talk which is excellent and I recommend that. It is super fast, however with some of the advances coming for AI on phones - the word of translation is about to become a lot easier and hopefully much more fun. Thanks for watching and for taking the time to leave the comment - it made my day.
You can buy online, see link in the description. 👍🏻 I hope you can find the product as it is worthwhile having if you travel or need to understand other languages.
Funny, love the lost in translation moment. I like the way you demo WT2 with the phone showed on screen. You really don't have to look at it. I do have one concern about the saved conversation. Can it be erased or is it saved in the cloud?
My wife is Chinese and rudely criticizes me in Mandarin, Or so I suspect because my Mandarin is not so good. With this product I will finally know the truth. The day of reckoning is at hand.
I think you should have let her know to wait till it translated to Chinese for her. She was responding to your english before it translated so it was getting all jumbled. Its just a minor error. It wouldn't happen if the person really didn't speak English. I can see how it was confusing though. Or maybe have the other person i a different room.
You are so right JustMamba… we didn’t rehearse it and I failed to give Lisa clear instructions. We had fun doing the review and I think we managed to demonstrate some of the translation capabilities but your additional points are sound and clarify how to get the best from them. 🙏
Hello this work if I use both of the earpods? For example in a university classroom in another country and I want to understand what the teacher said? Or if I record the class I can translate the recording? Thank you 😁
It will work on both scenarios… the app has been enhanced and I use the earbuds to listen to conference calls that are spoken in mandarin - there is a lag but it is good enough to follow a business meeting. I have also used it to follow up on a recorded call in mandarin, and again, it has worked and I am able to follow the conversation. 👍
When you are doing a face to face like this turn the speed down to like .04 or .4 whatever the lowest is. If not it can sometimes pick up the other persons sentence or not record at all. Ive seen alot of people review this and have that problem so they switch the speed and it stops alot of those glitches.
@@JustMamba thank you, I picked this up from another review that was more clearer than ours. I am enjoying using the translation buds and recommend them 👍
you two absolutely cracked me up , i can imagine something similar with my thai girlfriend when i get to thailand in a few days. your review has been very helpful. thank you
@For All Life's Adventures Is alright as I tried Google translation app with my colleague, and it was funny too. It seems Google translation app works quite well too.
It wasn't exactly recording my conversation but there was a history on the app that I could refer too... I have since started using the handheld unit for my travels which is easier.
I think Timekettle do make the best products - I use the T1 handheld translator now, it is awesome. 🙌 I am not paid or have any affiliation with Timekettle, I just like and use their product.
It was funny to make and Lisa, who is multilingual, doesn’t need the buds and I was not helping the situation by having no rehearsal and not giving clear instructions.. it was good fun. Thank you for watching Jason 👍
@@ForAllLifesAdventures yeah i took this translator to newcastle too it felt like i was talking to a bunch of whales ....i feel sorry for the chinese tourists that you teach english for 10 years landing at the airport there feeling all confident,....tuntill they introduce themselves to some geordie especially difficult after last orders at the bar has gone ...wayyy eyeeee
@@byromtaylor6482 😂 I get that… one point though. I don’t teach and I am not a teacher here in China. I work with Tech… but I do get the imagery of people learning ‘English’ from me only to be confused when they land in England and call a dog a ‘dug’!! 👍
be interesting to see how the translator handles that one...reminds me of this ruclips.net/video/HbDnxzrbxn4/видео.html&ab_channel=TheScottishComedyChannel
@@ForAllLifesAdventures hm so you think it would be best to just stick with a translator app like “SayHi” or the headphones made things more convenient for you? Couldn’t you just use regular headphones and a free app? Or you think the device is better
@@lifeinsatinX you can do that and I think there are some excellent translator apps. The built in one on an iphone is also great. 👍 I found these Air-buds a better but things have moved on and if you don’t want to spend the money you can utilise the apps and earphones. 👍
Actually, very highly educated, graduated from one of the top universities in China and speaks four languages.., the issue was that I wasn’t being clear, as usual!
@@ForAllLifesAdventures Achei otimo todo seu esforco e explicaçao sobre o produto. Tenho certeza que a pessoa que te fez essa critica foi ao site do fornecedor ou em outro lugares e nao deve ter conseguido melhores informacoes que a sua. Pois eu ja assisti mais de 25 videos sobre o produto ate o momento e o seu foi o mais honesto e detalhado. Novamente obrigado pelo conteudo gratuito. Temos que saber agradecer a ajuda do proximo! A naturalidade se destacou. Muitissimo obrigado
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haha omg, that's cute and funny, bless her... great video, gained a sub, i cant find content like this anywhere else XD
😂 🙏 more of Lisa coming in July once I am back from Scotland - she is amazing ❤️
@For All Life's Adventures yeyy haha, you both are great together. Can't wait to see you riveling Pewdiepie & MrBeast one day coz you deserve it
@@ImLLENN_ 😂 I wish…. But who knows 😂
Thanks and I truly enjoy watching two of you interact with each other and it was truly amusing and funny enough to watch. Keep up the good work and God bless!
Thank you, Lisa is so talented. I am a Luddite when it comes to learning languages… Lisa keeps me laughing as I tip toe through life, because she embraces life with such energy and joy. I am glad you could see that 😃 ❤️
This demonstration was amazing. Loved the humor, chemistry, and technology. This definitely helped me make my decision on purchasing the Timekettle WT2 Edge.
Thanks.
Thank you Laz… they are great 👍
Wow, this has got to be the funniest review I've ever seen 🤣🤣
😂 thank you, it was a bit unrehearsed
Dont cut the video the true transparency is what makes this video awesome 😂 thanks for being bloody real mate. 💯
Thank you for enjoying the video and to take the time to leave the comment 👍
I was actually thinking about buying these and decided to check some reviews and found this video. Ian and Lisa were funny to watch.
I have been in Beijing for more than 7 years and never attempted to learn Chinese. Mostly due to laziness, partly due to not needing to learn due to how easy it is to live in Beijing without speaking Chinese, and a little because I would rather learn Thai.
I wonder if Ian and Lisa are still in Beijing?
Thank you for watching the video baeshin and we are still in Beijing. I know what you mean about living in China and getting by without knowing Chinese. I know a little now thanks to the earphones we demonstrated 👍
@@ForAllLifesAdventures I am definitely going to buy some for myself to just make life just that little bit easier. Would come in handy when speaking to the elderly, children, or people that just don't speak English. There is probably a bit of fun that could be had with them as well.
You and Lisa were fun to watch. Definitely going to subscribe.
I actually was only planning to stay in China for a year. Each year I would say it's my last and ended up being here over 7 years. I could have definitely learned Chinese by now haha
@@baeshin thanks for subscribing. Lisa and I have a couple of videos coming over the next couple of weeks.. I hope you like.
I know what you mean about Beijing, I came over for three months, went back to the U.K. and then knew I needed to come back and I have been here for 6 years now. It gets under the skin in a good way. 👍
I am surprised Beijingers don't smack you down for not learning Mandarin for 7 years. I lived there for 4 years and after my attempts to learn Mandarin were not good enough for Beijingers' ears, I gave up and lived in the CBD where I didn't need to use it. Whenever I traveled west of Wangfujing I encountered fewer English speakers and eventually discovered like 90% of the city was English intolerant.
@@tperk Typically when I use Chinese, I get told that my Chinese is "sooo good", even though I know it's not. Everything I learned, I just randomly picked up. I couldn't pass the HSK1 or whatever they call that test. Also, I wouldn't listen to a Beijing on Chinese speaking, as the add "R" sounds to random words.
Loving your content creations about life over in China. Similar to the Barretts channel on YT and many others. PS your editing skills have got better. Appreciate the hard work and thank you. Keep them coming
Thank you Obi Wan (I love typing that 😂) I appreciate the feedback and will keep going. I do everything on my iphone even the editing. 👌
Lisa is so adorable. I am glad that you did not cut any of this out. I was grinning and laughing and falling in love with the both of you. I am preparing for my first trip to Bangkok for major dental work and to see the city and enjoy the people. I will be buying the newest version W4 Pro. I can't wait to use it.
Thank you, she is incredible and so smart and makes my stupidity ever so more obvious. Thank you for watching and the company that makes the translation tools make a lot of great stuff and I am NOT paid or associated with the company - they just made a greta product that helped me a lot. Have a great trip.
@@ForAllLifesAdventures I'm going to buy the W4 Pro that just came out. Do you get any commission if I buy through you? I'll be using it in Bangkok next month when I go for some major dental work.
@@coresupportservices9065@coresupportservices9065 No, I have no affiliation and I don't do promotions or sponsorship deals as I wanted to keep my voice and own stuff. I just liked the company and the products that they have helped my travels. They are great products but thanks for the offer. I use the small fluent talk hand held device and it is brilliant - never let me down yet.
Enjoyed this one. Liked the natural, not rehearsed vibe 😂😂
No rehearsal and Lisa being apprehensive but brilliant! So much fun
I enjoyed this very much and I am not even interested in language, technology, or travel lol. I am even thankful for the trolls who showed up the in comments attempting to be offensive. Their opinions were also very valuable to me. They help remind me that only our individual self can control how we show up in this world. They choose to attempt to be hurtful towards people. They miss out on so much in their lifetimes by being this way. I believe you two are absolutely brilliant and thank you for sharing this beautifully imperfect moment with humanity. I will not subscribe as this channel's content is of no interest to this particular ego, but I will most definitely like this video as it is certainly valuable to you and many others. Great review and demonstration. Blessings, friends.
Thank you for your kind words William as they inspire me. The hope and positivity for life and happiness that you reflected in your comments are inspirational. I truly enjoyed reading and reflecting on your words. Thank you for your honesty and I wish you all the happiness in the world. 👍 Iain.
Seems to be effective, that was funny watching you two getting it together, made me laugh a few times with you, brilliant...😂🌻💗🔥🙏
Thank you Josh, we probably should have practiced but the fun was in not doing that... so we just went for it. ❤️
need some help please
how do i use the M3 to listen to a live group talk on tiktok from my phone - translate from chinese (example) to english to the ear bud
the ear bud is connecting to my phone i hear them but still is in chinese not translating them talking in english
or is this not possible ?
It is possible but can be laggy as there are many voices. Have you got the language correct in the translation, you have to set it to what language is being translated to what?
Hi Ian thank you for your video, this was very entertaining to watch and thanks for making us all laugh. I have just recently purchased the wt2edge in Shenzhen and must say I am very impressed with them. With regards to the manual mode it does have its own benefits. For example if I’m walking along the beach with my girlfriend and we are just having short conversation sometimes I’ll change to manual mode because my girlfriend will tend to hum to herself and the humming will then be translated into several um um 😂. But in fairness I only really use them with my girlfriend if we are going to have an in-depth conversation. Also time kettle recommend changing to manual mode in a noisy environment, however simu mode works fine. Since releasing this video the app interface and performance has improved. I find the offline translation works fine now for me. Cheers hope all is going well for you up there in Beijing. Best regards Mark
Hi Mark, thank you for enjoying the video and yeah, we did have a laugh also when making the video... Lisa is fluent in a number of languages so I was not being clear on what we were trying to do, hence the confusion and hilarity trying to work it all out. The wt2edge are great, but like you, I tend to use them with very few people because of the fact that they are earpieces. I have since then started using the fluent talk which is excellent and I recommend that. It is super fast, however with some of the advances coming for AI on phones - the word of translation is about to become a lot easier and hopefully much more fun. Thanks for watching and for taking the time to leave the comment - it made my day.
How to buy this product? 🤔🤔🤔
You can buy online, see link in the description. 👍🏻 I hope you can find the product as it is worthwhile having if you travel or need to understand other languages.
Funny, love the lost in translation moment. I like the way you demo WT2 with the phone showed on screen. You really don't have to look at it. I do have one concern about the saved conversation. Can it be erased or is it saved in the cloud?
Good question, I am not sure. I will need check and try and get back to you.
Otimo video. Natural, bem feito e explicativo. Esta de parabens.
Thank you 🙏
My wife is Chinese and rudely criticizes me in Mandarin, Or so I suspect because my Mandarin is not so good. With this product I will finally know the truth. The day of reckoning is at hand.
It’s a good tech 👍
I think you should have let her know to wait till it translated to Chinese for her. She was responding to your english before it translated so it was getting all jumbled. Its just a minor error. It wouldn't happen if the person really didn't speak English. I can see how it was confusing though. Or maybe have the other person i a different room.
You are so right JustMamba… we didn’t rehearse it and I failed to give Lisa clear instructions. We had fun doing the review and I think we managed to demonstrate some of the translation capabilities but your additional points are sound and clarify how to get the best from them. 🙏
can you pair an Apple earpod to listen to the translation? does it have to be a Timekettle?
It has to be Timekettle but the Apple translation app on the new iOS 18.2 set to your action button is very good to use. 👍🏼
Hello this work if I use both of the earpods? For example in a university classroom in another country and I want to understand what the teacher said? Or if I record the class I can translate the recording? Thank you 😁
It will work on both scenarios… the app has been enhanced and I use the earbuds to listen to conference calls that are spoken in mandarin - there is a lag but it is good enough to follow a business meeting.
I have also used it to follow up on a recorded call in mandarin, and again, it has worked and I am able to follow the conversation. 👍
When you are doing a face to face like this turn the speed down to like .04 or .4 whatever the lowest is. If not it can sometimes pick up the other persons sentence or not record at all. Ive seen alot of people review this and have that problem so they switch the speed and it stops alot of those glitches.
@@JustMamba thank you, I picked this up from another review that was more clearer than ours. I am enjoying using the translation buds and recommend them 👍
This translation is becoming a comedy hehehehe. Good product keep going. Lisa is very charming.
It was so much fun to do that video and hopefully we get to see more of Lisa she is very charming and has the best sense of humour ever… 😆
you two absolutely cracked me up , i can imagine something similar with my thai girlfriend when i get to thailand in a few days. your review has been very helpful. thank you
Thank you, I am so glad you enjoyed the video, it is a natural review with the product right out the box…. It is a great product.
Whoa! Good product! I've always wonder if it really work
They were very good, I was surprised.
How to take this product
You can buy online, see link in the description. 👍🏻
😂 love the switch to Japanese since in New York, I deal with Chinese, Japanese and some Thailand merchants.
Ok
Good, you don't even need the device talking to her haha
Lisa speaks 4 languages and an excellent communicator… I am the dumb ass trying to find a tool to do the work for me 😂
@For All Life's Adventures Is alright as I tried Google translation app with my colleague, and it was funny too. It seems Google translation app works quite well too.
@@neutraluser4019 the new translation app on iPhones is also now very good and can translate quickly 👍
Is it recording your conversation? Is there an option not to have a transcript?
It wasn't exactly recording my conversation but there was a history on the app that I could refer too... I have since started using the handheld unit for my travels which is easier.
@ Yeah I just didn’t like the idea of private conversations being recorded or connected online. Thank you for the info.
Avha que esse ainda seria o melhor tradutor atual do mercado mundial?
I think Timekettle do make the best products - I use the T1 handheld translator now, it is awesome. 🙌 I am not paid or have any affiliation with Timekettle, I just like and use their product.
Does it translate your Glaswegian to English 🤣?
😂 It struggled with that, so I had to try and speak clearly, which is not easy for a weegie. 😆
Now that would be an innovation!🍁
Great test 👍🏻
Thank you Mark 👍
this would be cool if you actually reviewed this instead of wasting the first half of the video
Yeah, great feedback. 🙇♂️
@@ForAllLifesAdventures By these earbuds we can watch different language movie with our native languages instantly.
@@mannavarampoornavamsikrish8052 it works ok for that, but if it is a fast paced movie it confuses the earbuds.
😂she’s too smart for this simple task.
Lisa is so smart, I am the dummy for sure 😂
Those translation buds look good…I did find the demo unintentionally funny…lol
It was funny to make and Lisa, who is multilingual, doesn’t need the buds and I was not helping the situation by having no rehearsal and not giving clear instructions.. it was good fun. Thank you for watching Jason 👍
I'm gonna get one definitely
They are great and for a professional person who needs lots of translation it is an ideal product 👍
That was so funny. I love it. She is sweet.
🙏 it was so much fun and I should have informed and rehearsed instead of just going for it… but going for it was more fun 🤩
Cool man Thanks
Thanks for watching.
You guys were great 👍
Thank you, it was good fun to try out theTranslation.
i lived in england all my life and still cant understand scottish
😂 I agree it is not easy to understand and I know that from living in England and other countries 😆 😂 ❤️ 👍
@@ForAllLifesAdventures yeah i took this translator to newcastle too it felt like i was talking to a bunch of whales ....i feel sorry for the chinese tourists that you teach english for 10 years landing at the airport there feeling all confident,....tuntill they introduce themselves to some geordie especially difficult after last orders at the bar has gone ...wayyy eyeeee
@@byromtaylor6482 😂 I get that… one point though. I don’t teach and I am not a teacher here in China. I work with Tech… but I do get the imagery of people learning ‘English’ from me only to be confused when they land in England and call a dog a ‘dug’!! 👍
be interesting to see how the translator handles that one...reminds me of this ruclips.net/video/HbDnxzrbxn4/видео.html&ab_channel=TheScottishComedyChannel
😂 hilarious testing.. need to find someone who doesn’t know English lol
Yeah, 😂 it was my bad communication but it was good fun!
im guessing tou can't walk and talk with these since no one is doing it
Hi, yes you can walk and talk with them and it works ok.
@@ForAllLifesAdventures so you can keep the phone in your pocket and the translation still works, through both headphones?
@@lifeinsatinX I kept the phone in my hand but it work through the earphones yes.
@@ForAllLifesAdventures hm so you think it would be best to just stick with a translator app like “SayHi” or the headphones made things more convenient for you? Couldn’t you just use regular headphones and a free app? Or you think the device is better
@@lifeinsatinX you can do that and I think there are some excellent translator apps. The built in one on an iphone is also great. 👍 I found these Air-buds a better but things have moved on and if you don’t want to spend the money you can utilise the apps and earphones. 👍
why this lady is wasting everyone time and can't understand to speak in her language
Actually, she can speak in four languages very efficiently - the problem was my lack of language skills and lack of direction.
Good God, she is not the sharpest pencil in a box.
Actually, very highly educated, graduated from one of the top universities in China and speaks four languages.., the issue was that I wasn’t being clear, as usual!
Do you speak 4 languages? 🤔
@@ny2bama I don’t, I can speak one and a half 😂 , Lisa can speak 4 👍
That is one horrific demonstration of a product. It would have been nice to see a real test of the limits of what is possible. Booooo
Sure, next time my friend. No problem- great feedback.
@@ForAllLifesAdventures Achei otimo todo seu esforco e explicaçao sobre o produto. Tenho certeza que a pessoa que te fez essa critica foi ao site do fornecedor ou em outro lugares e nao deve ter conseguido melhores informacoes que a sua. Pois eu ja assisti mais de 25 videos sobre o produto ate o momento e o seu foi o mais honesto e detalhado. Novamente obrigado pelo conteudo gratuito. Temos que saber agradecer a ajuda do proximo! A naturalidade se destacou. Muitissimo obrigado
Not very bright is she?
The opposite, super smart and speaks many languages and top University education… I was the dummy that wasn’t explaining it correctly.
@@ForAllLifesAdventures good man. I thought that's what you would say.