The snobification of outdoor sports.
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
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You should get into extreme sports like mountain biking! All you need is a 10k$ bike, 2k$ worth of gear, a 3k$ bike rack and a whole lot of Patagonia clothes. Is adrenaline just a luxury item now? Why do we even bother with outdoor industry sports at this point? Is used equipment any good? Trustafarians unite.
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This is obviously a Patagonia add paid for by 5g. Wake up sheeple.
The title is the snobificatiion of outdoor sports, an 8m video about MTB kooks, no other sports are mentioned. If you use the words outdoor sports to describe your sport, automatically implies you are special needs or gen z. What sports are indoors besides basketball and bowling, (bowling is more of a game than a sport)? They should have titled the video :" Why do MTB kooks swarm (similar to flies on a steaming pile of. )to overpriced gear to validate their vapid, nihilistic, sad, pathetic lives??"
@@maxdex8the joke overshot you.
nah, i huck well over that@@AG-iu9lv
Patagoochi as we unaffectionately call it. Decent but stupidly overpriced gear. Not a lot of choices ne more with the North face offering 20% off if you take their fucking stupid inclusion class absolutely ridiculous I'll stick with outdoor research they're the most reasonably priced best warranty and it's generally worn by people who actually go outside unlike Arc'teryx and the like
woow you're so ironic you pinned that comment wow. Yes unfortunately it is all true, there plenty of great gear for half the price.
I guess you're just healing your gilt of spending tons of cash on fashionable outdoor brands :)
good video though. have a good one
Ps. just saying things outloud ironically doesn't make them less true, I don't know you but it seems that you are a spoiled bratt (I guess nothing wrong with that as long as you are aware of that fact).
You can have plenty of joy on your local trails, with cheaper gear.
This generation is so weird, trying to make a video with a message without the actual message or meaning, so lost. :(
Patagonia actually repaired my 8 year old jacket and replaced 3 zippers that were oxidized after i had the jacket with me on a sailboat trip and didn't clean it properly. No questions asked, took less than a week, they even paid for international shipping. It is pretty awesome.
I find pristine Patagonia jackets in thrift stores for about $5.00 all the time.
That's because you paid for the jacket 10 times over.
Change the title to "outdoor sport snob explains why he's not like other outdoor snobs"
I have been living out of my 3000 dollar van with my second hand $300 hard tail and $500 surf board and have been traveling up down the country for last 8 moths, including gear, fuel, and everything I have spent $7000
Real shit
Hat's off to you! You know what you need to bike, surf, and sleep, and you're not getting sold anything you don't need. I imagine you must find tremendous gratification at the end of each day, living within your means and loving it.
@@waylonk2453 yeah fo sure, one of the best things I have ever done, love the purity of it. After a while tho you do start to lack a bit of purpose, witch is the reason i am finishing up in a month to peruse a career in fire fighting. Also gets a bit lonely doing it on your own but you make friends on the road. But yeah no regeats it has been maxed fun, and has helped me grow a lot.
At both ends of the income spectrum there exists a leisure class. I hiked the AT last year and spent like $9000 total in six months. So less than that bike cost! I’m doing the Trans Am bike route this year and it’ll be like half that. Riding it on my trusty $1100 Giant that I got with the first stimulus check.
This guys bike
It's the way to do it. Not paying rent or working 40 hours a week so you have time to cook for yourself and live cheap is the way to do it
I feel like "adrenaline sports" may be a different story, but most outdoor recreation does NOT require you to break the bank on gear. Many of the items I've had the longest are from Target, thrift stores, or other budget retailers. Marketing is a powerful thing.
I mean when you want to go tradclimbing you are going to spend quite some money on gear.
I am not happy about it. But ist definitivly not cheap.
Abd I would absolutely not buy any ppe second hand.
@@sportenapfeltorten2095 core equipment for most of this sports is not cheap. Bikes cost a lot, skis/snowboards cost a lot, climbing gear as well. However, you will need solid base equipment to enjoy the sport you're doing. What i don't understand is marketing and pricing of secondary equipment like clothing. Climbing pants beeing more expensive than the rope you're using. How does that make sence?
@@makoko6812
You are so right!
The "boulderpants" they yell at my local outdor-shop are basicly just cargo-pants.
But cost upwards of 70€
And I have this problem where all my clothes that I use frequently just keeps braking.
Even the stuff that is marketed for its longevity and durability.
And I am thinking. Am I expecting to much? Do I use my stuff SOOO intensively?
But I guess its just planned obsolecence.
@@sportenapfeltorten2095climbing equipment is in a slightly different category though, you’re quite literally putting your life in the hands of your equipment. Not so much when deciding between a Patagonia down jacket or one from decathlon.
@@willbaker8884
Jup
Absolutely.
I was just thinking that its inherently still not a super cheap activity. Like running or so.
I’ve been around resorts and mountain towns since the 80’s. One thing for those thinking it’s a fashion show, never judge a book by its cover. I know many great skiers and snowboarders that’ll out rip most on old rental equipment.
Invest in a good jacket and pants. Grab a quality base layer like Patagonia Capiline. If you don’t over wash your gear and treat the fabric, it should last a long time. Don’t be afraid to mix some Carhartt or better yet, Tractor Supply has this great Ridgecut brand. The pants are very durable and can be had for $30. Hit up thrift stores. I found Patagonia down pants for $10 and in great shape.
If you’re destroying xtr components and sections of your frame “every time” you ride then you have to be doing something wrong. Raced enduro for 3 years and broke 3 chains, 1 derailleur, 1 disk, and a few tires.
I wear my 20 year old ski jacket as a badge of honor... got the zipper redone a few years ago. The material still holds up just fine in the PNW storms.
Pretty common to see in Colorado, especially by people who moved from California or have vacation homes in Colorado.
So you see a big difference between the Patagonia wearing yuppies who just moved there for the outdoors and people who lived there all their life in regular clothes.
@loafofmilk7680 move to Kansas that's where i'm from nobody want to move there
This is a beautiful video but I find it hard to agree with. I don't believe brands/manufacturers providing expensive products (alongside a line of affordable products) and taking part in sports with said products is at all "snobby". And I find the Patagonia marketing synonym silly. That was an incredibly successful campaign that not only lined patagonia pockets, It changed consumers mind and perspective on fast fashion, including mine. The snobbery found within sports like this have more to do with keeping up with joneses and cliques imo, both of which can be easily overcome on a personal basis. Buy affordable, look for deals, use your gear for a long time and don't associate with the "culture". These sports have levels and only genuine idiots see a video of a pro with a 12k bike and assume the need 10-15k to start... When it comes to mountain biking, It's not far fetched to find a great beginner setup for less than 1500-2000. Add another $200 for gear and tools. Is that a lot to ask for that ability to float through a forest on a modern high tech bicycle? Do you really expect these fragile metal pieces (made that way by design for redundancy/weight savings) to constantly withstand abuse and never need replacing? I agree that there's a lot of snobbery within these sports but I think it's the participants and not the corporations selling the gear/the idiots shouting "you need a 10k bike to even ride in the woods!"
Well said. I was thinking along the same lines as you. 😁
Being fit and healthy at 73 years old after a lifetime of bicycling compared to my sister and brother who died as drunks at 49 and 60, respectively, is a good payoff. I repaired a give-away mountain bike in my 30's, commuted to work on it and still ride it. My road bike was pricey in 1982 but I raced it, commuted on it and rode many thousands of miles on it. Used skis were my norm. My Nordic skis are 40 years old. I shop at Lift-Up Thrift Store. Life has been my luxury - not endless new shit.
Well said
Beautiful as usual. Also that “durability” tracking part was sick. Loved it. Weird fonts tho😂 Loved them.
Great concept. Great execution. Nice job bringing some awareness to the decadent nature of our first world play. I’ve worked in the outdoor industry for 25 years. Your vid was refreshing.
True story, I stopped mountain biking in the '90s because stuff was always breaking. Even if nothing broke, drivetrain parts wore much faster and stuff needed adjustment much more. Switched to road and never looked back. Side note, fewer injuries as a roadie also.
Sure. If you're punting around the local group ride on your road bike it'll be less expensive. If you train and race the expense is going to be near equal. If you don't race mtb you shouldn't be ripping through gear.
If you buy good equipment you shouldn’t be breaking stuff left and right. Being a bigger dude, I always used to bust road bike wheels until I bought good ones. Same thing applies to most other parts as well.
@@chadwells7562 I'm with you there, which is why I run 36 hole wheels and 32 mm tires on my "fast" road bike.
@@sugxi In the context of your reply, I've found anecdotally that road bike equipment used on club B-level rides lasts longer than MTB equipment ridden with the same effort.
Hey Shaffer, great work! I went to highschool with this kid, and your videos are outstanding, which is no surprise at all!
Sometimes I forget that MTB is an adrenaline sport. In my teens I definitely went for the adrenaline, but now it’s all about getting into and traversing landscapes. At the same time, I’m finding that my $4500 carbon FS was probably not really worth and it actually kind of makes me mad. It doesn’t climb as well as my ‘04 Karate Monkey did (in both hardtail and rigid configs), the maintenance for pivots and suspension makes me groan every time I think about it. Meanwhile, the Karate Monkey was basically bulletproof and I could ride all the same stuff on it that I do on my XC FS bike, even when I ran it rigid. I’m kind of starting to think that a 27.5+ rigid bike might be the path forward and save me a lot of money and groaning at pivots and suspension and a press fit BB. SIMPLIFY!
Also, great timing. I was just beginning to wonder how many of my “preferences” and “needs” are the sole result of marketing. I’m finding things, and this video was refreshing to see in a world of “must-have sick new gear” reviews, over-shreddy advertising, and over-tech’d… everything.
I resonate with your point about my "preferences" and "must-haves" being due to clever marketing. I don't need the most high-speed stuff, but companies are good at stroking one's ego in order to sell high-end stuff to average users. I like to think a hardtail mountain bike is what I would get if I were to enter the sport, and I'd be happy with standard, good quality stuff. No electronic shifters or carbon parts for me!
Singlespeed ti frame with a lauf fork for me. Granted I do have some fancy Paul components on it, but for most of the riding I do, it works just great.
I actually dislike full suspension bikes as I know I'm not nearly good enough to use them to their full potential. I just goof around in a rigid fatbike.
Dude, amazing video. Really well done. As someone who works in the outdoor industry and mountain bikes a lot... I struggle with the same issues you outlined.
Pro tip for those who don't work in the industry - poshmark / online consignment stores are a great place to get outdoorsy clothing / gear at a decent discount.
In 1998, I was cleaning out an attic at a ski resort and was told to throw out dozens of old ski school uniforms. They were nice Spyder jackets, polar fleece and pants that were probably 10 years old already. I snagged them and used them for the next 20 years until the zipper finally broke on the jacket. I bought a nice North Face coat about five years ago, and the sleeves are frayed so bad they have holes, and I'm worried the zipper will break every time I use it. I'm hoping to get one or two more seasons out of it, but I'm so disappointed in the durability of the new materials.
I'm living in a very outdoorsy city in the alps (Innsbruck) and lots of people move here because they want to go skiing, mountain biking or hiking. Haha and the consumerism in this field is huge. People spend sooo much money and it is a lifestyle and a self-image they are buying not necessarily the gear itself.
It's also a little annoying because I live in this city since I was born here. And many people that move here because of "the mountains" have made Outdoor sports their personality which is a little boring 😂
Thanks for saying these things. I hope this video blows up.
I almost fell victim to buying outdoor gucci and honestly, it's hard to resist but I'm doing well. I find that being financially incapable and being critically rational with my spendings has made it an easy choice to forgo buying stupidly overpriced outdoor stuff when I can get by with cheaper items that work just as well. Take for example bicycles. My most expensive one costed me 250 USD to build and it is still performing well after heavy use for almost three years now. It just takes discipline to take care of the bike and it will take care of you.
I'm not willing to shell out the amount of cash or bury myself in debt just to buy a bicycle that costs as much as a motorcycle or even a used car, and I can say the same with other outdoor gear that's just ridiculously overpriced and not even that durable. If you really love the outdoors, you can do it with just the bare minimum amount of decent gear and the rest comes down to your physical condition. Again, bikes for example, if you want to shed weight from your bike, just lose some bodyweight and ditch the overpriced coffee after your ride.
And final point, most of us are just filthy casuals and weekend warriors in outdoorsy stuff, luxury outdoor gear is just meant for bragging rights and make you look like a pro. If you ask me, look at what those who actually live in the outdoors their entire lives have and use, that will give you a good idea what can work and what's just overkill.
The damn internet man. Everything's a hype which everyone just has to get in on. Then it becomes marketed, and the soul gets sucked out.
the word "Patagonia" was mentioned 12 times in this video, more than the word "not" (10 times) and "what" (10 times). The Patagonia logo appeared 15 times.
As a 65 year old outdoors veteran I can confirm this message. When I got started fleece was something sheep had, breathable was what you did and every thing was available in either green or brown. I miss that simplicity.
Replying to my own post 🤦♂️ lol, thanks for the upvotes everyone. Now a segue, YT brought up a video of a man in Japan (sounds a bit spy like) who camps out in a rented mini-van. I’m hooked. When I want to relax I watch his channel. Each journey is almost exactly the same but I find it like a meditation. I identify with him. I camped in my old van with almost nothing but a mat and sleeping bag. I was free. I could (40 years ago) park almost anywhere and have a time of peace by myself in the outdoors. His content reminds of that. He has simplified his equipment and is in the moment. That’s what the outdoors means to me. I wish everyone well and hope you have many simple moments.
Status is more important than durability to many. I live in the PNW and EVERYONE “needs” a Tacoma, 4Runner, Imported Japanese SUV, roof tent, Kashima, top of the line kit etc. It’s funny to watch.
Don’t forget SUBs 😂
God damn, that was great! Subscribed and it didn’t cost me a thing 🤘
enjoyed this video, and the camerawork and production was pretty cool :)
I do my training rides after work on a bike trail that goes into an extremely wealthy neighborhood (Los Gatos). I wear jeans, hoodie, work boots and ride a 20 year old bike. I’m pretty sure everyone thinks I’m homeless but I rarely get passed.
lol I loved the line "literally buy into the idea of being above consumerism"
I havent rode bikes in awhile. Went to a Specialized shop and the “entry level” bike was $5000 on sale. He said the prices were crazy low right now. Bike companies have lost their minds.
I have to say this is brilliant. Aside from the message this is some beautiful art. great editing, great sound, great camera work, well done!
Bruh, you could literally buy used equipment and not a $3k bike rack, or a 10k bike. Travel costs are what eats up money. Trip to Fruits CO, from Cleveland, Ohio, 24 hour drive. That means a bunch of gas, lodging halfway through, around Iowa or Nebraska, $150, then lodging when you get there for a few days. I don't doubt that large companies influence us, but at the same time I started riding a bike when I was a kid. It was my first vehicle of freedom. When I got older I learned I could experience that freedom again, albeit with a new list of responsibilities. But I think forging your own trip and making your own goals in life and finding ways to work towards them is a rewarding way to live
My wife and I were taking a trip to hike several NP in Wyoming and Montana. I normally buy cheap clothes for my outdoor adventures because I'm so hard on them. For this trip I wanted something nice. I bought some Kuhl pants, Mountain Hardware shirt, and a Patagonia windbreaker. This, obviously, was the same idea everyone at Yellowstone, Teton, and Glacier had, too. I felt so silly. Like a sellout. This is not who I am. I'm a get dirty and bloody hiker. I had circumstances to my consumerism.
Very well edited, it kept me interested.
Dude your speaking from my heart. I love mountainbikes but they gut so ridiculously exepensive and brands come up with new shitty ideas every other month which add (maybe) another 1% of perfomance but come with a 20% price increase. And all the magazines/websites just jump on it because they are dependant on the content but noone (really noone) ever mentions anything about maintainability and durability in their tests.
It's pretty common knowledge that they don't make things the way they used to, if you want things to last a lifetime the mass production cheap quality option isn't the best, now even the expensive options are low quality build or source materials. But... been too busy actually going outdoors, biking, climbing, surfing, boarding, training or relaxing, camping or backcountry adventuring, to have noticed or cared about many or any of the points brought up in the video. The gear I acquire is usually used, always was skeptical of new products and marketing.. Just seems like people care too much about other people's business, besides that I do care about others. Nobody is being forced to buy stuff.
Definitely is a fine balance. Before I started rock climbing I spent far more money on useless stuff. Typical week of eating out with friends and going shopping for stuff I didn't need to try and fill a void. Once I started really getting into this sport and discovered I have world class climbing 2 hours away at Red River Gorge i completely submerged myself. Now instead of wasting money on random things I am far more practical and intentional with how I spend. Sure these companies are trying to sell us stuff that we probably dont need and more than likely not any better than the cheaper alternatives but Id rather give to companies that I value when I do want to splurge a bit.
Excellent video! I am seeing this in the hunting side of the outdoor industry too. Top price tags used to be synonymous with top features and technology. Now there is definitely a diminishing rate of returns and top prices don't guarantee quality. The features have also all trickled down to mid and even lower price point products though so it's complicated. It seems average consumers are catching on and pushing back as well.
Dude, dont even think you can get near an elk without a Sitka logo.
This video made me happy inside.
This film was so enjoyable. Thanks for bringing us along the journey and your thought process. Also, love the aspect ratio!!!!
The cost of mountain biking is why I’m a runner.
It doesn’t have to be crazy expensive for replacement components if you don’t go off big drops or jumps but make sure you learn to re torque your bike cause shit rattles loose and how to shift correctly so you don’t eat up drivetrain components
Just making videos is exposure (regardless of bias or intent). Exposure is what ruins outdoor access and conditions. Of course… people will never stop telling everyone everything they do and how cool or uncool it is (even if it’s tongue in cheek or self-deprecating). My advice, even though it will fall on deaf ears… just engage in activity and stop putting out advertisements for all the sheeple to go do the exact same thing. Refrain is really the best way to prevent this destruction.
The description with affiliate links really ties it together.
Well thought out arguments. Was expecting a bit more a biting end instead of the odd shift back to a positive tone. But well done!
One quote I heard years ago always ring true: "You can be loyal to a brand, but a brand won't be loyal to you".
So you align to an ideal - maybe if my stuff was more environmentally considerate? Maybe if it lasted longer?
Brands are aware of this too, some make it part of their appeal, some disregard it because they've cultivated an image without sustainability in mind. Most instances it's a smoke and mirrors marketing to make you think they are changing their ways so you feel less guilt.
I look at the bike industry: See the "continuous innovation" that really is just a play on peoples want for the latest and greatest equipment to make themselves feel better about how they are perceived.
Road bikes especially have gone to disc brakes, tube shape aerodynamics, fancier carbon layups - in the last decade. To the point where it was elitist - you didn't really need to buy a $12k carbon pushbike to "maximise a few watts of power". And when the technology matured to a point of stability and all the designs looked the same, the UCI changed the bike tube geometry rules so that bike manufacturers could have a reason to develop new equipment and keep the consumer cycle going for an asset that should last you a decade at least.
Yet they really only last a few years and scant anything can be recycled from a fatigued carbon bike - it's mostly landfill.
And yet we all just lap it all up for the sake of image, and they lap it all up for the sake of profits. For something that was once seen as environmentally conscious, its so hard to have that perception on the bicycle industry anymore.
Super well shot and well told!
Oh so true. Well done 👏 👏 👏
Instant Sub. loved this!
To add to your comment about buying high-quality gear that will last, what most people don't think about is EMOTIONAL durability. Essentially, that jacket, bike or hat might be built to last for years, but will you actually still be using it? Or is it going to lose its luster before it wears out and get replaced by the new, shiny thing?
The hell man! MTV road rules and Discovery channel all rolled into one/ Love your channel! Keep this style goin!
Best video ive watched in years ❤
Lol! As a poor AF dirtbag vanlifer this was THE pandemic during covid. Out of no where thousands of decked out Mercedes Sprinters and Lifted Chevy vans flooded the outdoors. I had to compete with a bunch of yuppies that could only rock climb if they were "dressed for it." They brought their techie and entitled attitudes with them. As a whole we can think of ourselves as a special higher breed of human. But when it comes down to it, we are not climbers, road bikers, mtb bikers, trail runners, hikers, backpackers, and etc. We are all just grown ass children playing around outside. A bunch of dorks dressed in a way that makes us feel exclusive. The snobbery in these communities is the worst type of ego. Who gives a fuck if you can onsight 5.14+, flash v12, run 25-50 miles in a day, and all the other ego inflating accomplishments. We are all blessed to be healthy enough and to have the energy to just get out there. So please feel free to join me but leave that BS ego at home. We are all just a bunch of grown ass adults feeding our inner child✌🏾
Dude, i love your style! so dang creative
They’ve been snobs my entire life lol, been invited to snowboard countless times until I say I never been they’re like ohhhh 😑😑😑
My friends all wanna go snowboarding with me and shit but I cannot afford any aspect of it. I used to skate a lil, more so take photos of my friends getting nasty w it, but I can’t even really afford a complete setup anymore either. The last thing I have is 4x4ing, and I only save money doing that because I can fix my own truck. It’s wack.
This is fucking great video! That intro alone is oscar worthy
This is extremely advanced satire.
Why? Because we value other things MORE than we value fighting consumerist trends. Buy old used things when you can. Fix old things. Dont buy new everytime you can.
Not to sound like a tool, but you don't need to pursue joy. If you can always be in the moment, every moment is the best moment of your life...
My patagonia jacket got several holes the first week just by sitting on the bus
why do you say to specific landscapes "nativ land"? Is it not the hole country?
Me trying to explain to people buying the higher end models of bikes thinking they're paying for more durable parts that it's probably actually the other way around.
the key it to get a used bike for 2500 that used to be 5k.. so no to new unless new is needed!
what a creative and thoughtful film this was! I like your editing style and your message. Im hoping more people start to see the beauty in sustaining and. maintaining their gear vs feeling like they need to invest in the latest and greatest.
I just built up a single speed mtb out of parts that have been in my garage for years, I call it the "sustainacycle" - is it the highest tech bike? no. is it my fastest bike uphill or downhill? no. Does it make me feel like a kid and give me good smiles per miles? absolutely. Comparison is the thief of joy and the sooner you can approach what you love based on your unique individualism as opposed to others the happier you'll be.
Looking forward to seeing more stuff from you!
Was that intro made by the EP-133 K.O.II?
You do not get away from your life for minute. You just live your life. My thought; it’s your life-your money, do with it and spend it how you wish. At the end of the day, repeat it’s your life.
Love it! Concepts worth exploring!
besides the great story u are telling, the typography and editing of this video makes me insanely happy
7 hour drive. 600 mile round trip. 20mpg=30 gallons of gas. Imagine burning 30 gallons of gas. Try it. Then see how that responsibly sourced jacket feels.
Think differently. Just like everyone else.
OK, I get your point but…… biking down the road in front of Monument Valley? C’mon. That had to be hella cool.
This might be my favorite Shaffer vid. Great job.
Well now I just want to go mountain biking...
I broke a specialized chain stay this year too
We have a modern saying in Britain "how the middle class ruined ####!
they're a bunch of snobby wankers who ruin everything
We have a ski area in michigan that is over 10 hour drive, why because it is the most radical ski area in michigan offering powder skiing , cliffs and tree skiing.
Amazin. Thank you for making this.
The MTB crowd deserves this one lmao.
If you're not losing or breaking gear, you're not using it enough. Good questions to ask.
Part of the problem is that we're all convinced that something can be both light and durable.. physics just don't allow for that in most cases, but the marketing engine of these companies is convinced that it does.
The whole gorpcore fashion thing hasn't helped. When people spend $30 on a carabiner to hold their bloody keys to their pants somethings gone wrong in the world.
🙌 awesome job! I wish I made this lol
well done!
Loved this!!!
I thought and was hoping this was going to talk more about how being outdoorsy has started to gain this image as something yuppies do and how there's this "outdoor" tax with gear and clothes having a markup.
Lower middle class white guy living in a 97 chevy astro with his gf here. Every time I see a $100-150K van it feels like my culture being appropriated but i guess thats what an unhoused person might think of me so maybe its all perspective? Also I'm very poor though
LOVE the editing
Had to give up snowboarding cause of corporate greed.
I had a lotta fun watching this. I'm a mtber/climber/traveler/millenial whatever. But I expected more talk about exclusivity and snobification per the description.
Doesn't the pursuit of novelty mean that your activity is hollow?
Calling patagonia "durable" would be the worlds funniest joke
If you destroy your mtb components that much theres a severe issue. Im an xc racer and have beat the shit out of my hard tail (my dads 2014 carbon stumpy) and full sus (epic evo) on trails not made for either. Never broken a bar, brake, headset, fork, or groupset. (Some wheels have been damaged but warranty is clutch) My parents have probably had to pay more for my medical bills than what ive had to replace on my mtbs over the years including just general maintenance. Not saying its a skill issue cuz im certainly not jesus especially on jumps but you have to step back and evaluate if you are breaking something every ride.
This was good.
Haha, not only exreme sports but just crossing a couple on the trailhead, all matching gear of the same brand (total of 4k+ just on their person) with small 40l backs looking in absolute horror and disgust at me hauling 35kg in a 85l pack in a complete mismatch of gear with a 30 year span between parts XD
This kind of thing is why no one who I grew up climbing with climbs anymore. It’s a shame what the outdoors have turned into.
It’s been like this for 30 years.
You put as an example Shimano instead of Sram?! really?!.... I was exactly agreeing your message thinking exactly about Sram being and example of short-lasting products and thinking about Shimano being long-lasting products!
I get the durability point with the outdoor clothing but when the heck did somebody say bike components were durable and will last you some time? xD Every bikes knows that they will break stuff way to often
fellow middle class mountain biker here and am fully aligned with this sentiment
Let me guess outside Gunnison , Black canyon area . That construction is a drag .