CP Rail is asking those along the Arbutus corridor to remove property along the train tracks by the

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  • Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
  • CP Rail is asking businesses and residents along the Arbutus corridor in Vancouver to remove all property along the train tracks by the end of July. CP wants the tracks clear as it continues its review of the line with an eye towards possibly re-acti

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  • @terenfro1975
    @terenfro1975 4 года назад +269

    You should never grow food on rail property without a soil study for hazardous chemicals.

    • @robertbalazslorincz8218
      @robertbalazslorincz8218 3 года назад +10

      True.

    • @ernestpassaro9663
      @ernestpassaro9663 3 года назад +10

      Reactivate the line !

    • @zjoberg
      @zjoberg 3 года назад +2

      Ah! as long as people are smoking tobacco, drinking strong liqueur and doing mucho worse things as drugs or just anything that destroys our climate - just go on eating parsley from the rail roadbed full of creosote. That parsley will never make any difference!

    • @MrCyclejay1967
      @MrCyclejay1967 2 года назад +5

      Over the years train tracks that I have seen. You can tell just by looking at them. That they're covered in hazardous chemicals. Besides. That is railroad company property. No one has a right to do anything with it or to it. No one has a right to access it. It is not very wise of the people along that corridor. To do anything on railroad property. They could also face civil or criminal charges for doing that.

    • @Gfysimpletons
      @Gfysimpletons 2 года назад +2

      You ain’t kiddin’. A friend of mine picked some morel mushrooms growing in a pile of railroad ties………yeah, he got really sick……they sucked up the poison from the ties…….duhhhhhhh?

  • @Nickgowans
    @Nickgowans 6 лет назад +138

    I think it's very nice of CP rail to allow the community to use their land for a little while

  • @davidvincent1093
    @davidvincent1093 5 лет назад +71

    AS a former conductor and a person that has a lot of rail road legal experience, from what I see here on this news posting and my research I would have to say that CP is being VERY kind in their approach. Traditionally the government and legal have sided with the rail roads. Their land rights will 99% of the time cover not only the land but also the water and mineral rights, which for a lot of people that own a home or business think they own, but they don't. The C.P. really does have the right to just come through and plow everything 50 foot on either side of the rail. They do not need an environment study, nor permission they can just do it. Traditionally when the rail was laid they purchased the right of way on both sides in perpetuity. Only the Rail Road (C.P. in this case) can release that clause of their contract. And then and only then they must remove ALL tracks and ties. also they can sell the land to the state OR a private person BUT the mineral right and water rights will either stay with the rail road OR go to the state. Sorry folks it is that simple. I have seen it done over and over and the "squatters" or trespassers as they will be referred to will be removed and they will have no say, there is no law that says since the rail has not run in x years that it reverts to whomever is using the land and considers it "abandoned"

    • @RailfanRowan
      @RailfanRowan Год назад +6

      I'm really late to this party, but I agree with you on the assessment of 'kindness'. A surprise for sure, these people got the treat of their lives by them allowing time for removal of personal property. Like you said, the gardeners are the ones trespassing on railroad property!

    • @moonbeamskies3346
      @moonbeamskies3346 Год назад

      Not true. The railroad must get permission from every single landowner or they can't do jack squat. And if they had your attitude I would say no just for fun.

    • @garynewton1263
      @garynewton1263 10 месяцев назад +2

      Agreed. I love trains so I'm siding with CP.

    • @BaileyChap
      @BaileyChap 10 месяцев назад +9

      @@moonbeamskies3346 The railroad IS the landowner.

    • @peterlittlehorse5695
      @peterlittlehorse5695 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@moonbeamskies3346 Wrong.

  • @nssteampunk4865
    @nssteampunk4865 5 лет назад +169

    REACTIVATE THE LINE!

    • @nachobroryan8824
      @nachobroryan8824 5 лет назад +15

      They already ripped it out.

    • @calpeninsularailfan
      @calpeninsularailfan 3 года назад

      @@MattsTrainArchive source?

    • @traindev1
      @traindev1 3 года назад +5

      @@calpeninsularailfan I live here and it is completely torn up, not a single piece of track is left.

    • @traindev1
      @traindev1 3 года назад +1

      @AXEL KAULBARS How are they going to re-activate a line that's gone, belongs to the city and has a pathway over the old right-of-way?

    • @traindev1
      @traindev1 3 года назад +1

      @AXEL KAULBARS They literally can't

  • @AdhamOhm
    @AdhamOhm 7 лет назад +460

    Just so everyone knows, this story was from 2014. CP sold off the corridor in 2016 and this line is now a public greenway.

    • @dylanstrang4540
      @dylanstrang4540 6 лет назад +35

      Adam Ohm dam thanks for the update bro your a legend 🙏

    • @Billy_Darley
      @Billy_Darley 5 лет назад +86

      darn. i was hoping for a different ending. one where the community gets their butts handed to them.

    • @larroyo1973
      @larroyo1973 5 лет назад +29

      This is common with railroads l. They pretend the line is valuable and that service will be returned soon but what they really looking for is the highest possible profit by selling the property.
      Railroads have an Unwritten rule and it is very simple if they don't want a railroad right-of-way, no other competing railroad will have it unless it is a short line dependent on the selling Railroad.

    • @qwertyTRiG
      @qwertyTRiG 5 лет назад +19

      @@Billy_Darley Why? Why are you trying to invent tension where none exists? The news story said nothing about property owners complaining.

    • @donna30044
      @donna30044 5 лет назад +1

      Adam Ohm:
      Thank you for the update.

  • @tomservo5007
    @tomservo5007 4 года назад +59

    oh no, the community garden must move --- think of the children!

    • @SgtChip
      @SgtChip 4 года назад +4

      Those kids wouldn't have much if there wasn't trains to build communities, bring goods, and transport people. Without the railroad, that community garden wouldn't exist!

    • @None-zc5vg
      @None-zc5vg 4 года назад

      @@SgtChip The wooden ties look rotten, so the tracks will probably have to be replaced and not just reused.

    • @SgtChip
      @SgtChip 4 года назад +1

      @@None-zc5vg Apparently CP Rail sold it to the city, sadly.

    • @gregleuze6657
      @gregleuze6657 3 года назад +2

      They were leading with the loss of a community garden? If that is the biggest inconvenience then it is a very solvable problem.

    • @ryananthony4840
      @ryananthony4840 3 года назад

      Lmao 😂😂

  • @richardclarke376
    @richardclarke376 6 лет назад +109

    "I am Arbutus of Borg. Your back gardens will be assimilated"

  • @charleswoodrow
    @charleswoodrow 6 лет назад +12

    They need to put all tracks back in service

  • @RoboJules
    @RoboJules 3 года назад +9

    The tracks were sold to the City of Vancouver, and they eventually created a walking and cycling path along most of it, with plans to build an LRT along it in the 2030s. The Arbutus Greenway is currently the nicest new addition to the City, which not too many people outside of Vancouver know about. Still, it's exploded with popularity, and more people use it every day. I daresay it might have the same impact as the Stanley Park Seawall. It also seems as though the pedestrian path is being extended along granville street bridge downtown.

  • @rickygarcia7400
    @rickygarcia7400 6 лет назад +19

    Man I love seeing raillines put back in service

    • @GreenRC24
      @GreenRC24 2 года назад +3

      It hasn't. lol

    • @BLDR_2023.
      @BLDR_2023. Год назад +4

      it was not put back in service CP sold the line in 2016 and it is now a greenway

  • @garynewton1263
    @garynewton1263 10 месяцев назад +2

    Good news. As a train lover here in Australia I'd love to see CP re-open this line.
    It would hsve to serve a worthwhile purpose for freight or passengers but the bottom line is rail should be encouraged as opposed to road traffic.
    CP, get it done!

    • @BaileyChap
      @BaileyChap 10 месяцев назад

      Ultimately this was just for a "case study" CP decided to abandon the line entirely and sold the land to the city, who converted it into a greenway. No rail restoration here, sorry.

    • @redstonerelic
      @redstonerelic 10 месяцев назад

      @@BaileyChap I believe the city plans on potentially making the corridor into light rail or some other city passenger transport, so it may see trains once again

  • @melissasueh.
    @melissasueh. 7 лет назад +130

    This happened in Tijuana, Mexico, to a line that was still in service. They had trains running 3 times a week and people still built homes and moved in on the right of way. The government had to buy land and pay them to move off. The right of way in North America is 100 feet wide with the tracks usually centered on it, so if you measure 50 feet from the center of the track, that is the boundary. In some places, in Mexico and elsewhere, criminals have claimed to own parts of the right of way and have sold the land to ignorant poor people. It is a cruel thing, but criminals are seldom nice people.

    • @sharkheadism
      @sharkheadism 7 лет назад +4

      The ROW varies in width.

    • @railbus5
      @railbus5 7 лет назад +3

      60 feet is a common figure used for many years in the US.

    • @sharkheadism
      @sharkheadism 7 лет назад +2

      It can be much greater or less.

    • @themonkeyhand
      @themonkeyhand 6 лет назад +9

      There's a city in India where the train runs through the market so everyone pulls away and even pulls back the awnings when the train comes through. Very narrow corridor. Amazing what people adapt to.

    • @JawTooth
      @JawTooth 6 лет назад +7

      Allyssa Andrews, the right of way varies. It could be 50 feet in places and it could be 350 feet in places. Why would you make that incorrect statement about the right of way width?! People like you have filled the internet with misinformation to the point that it is no longer useful to us who are looking for correct information. Please do a little research before you go throwing around facts. I really don't understand why people talk about things that they know nothing about. Do you also go around giving people bad legal advice? SMH

  • @nunyabidness117
    @nunyabidness117 7 лет назад +6

    There are videos of a rail line in Thailand I think running through a market. People have to fold up their awnings and move their wares, giving it barely inches to pass at a few mph. The rail line is okay with them being there it seems.

  • @camsmith7651
    @camsmith7651 8 лет назад +386

    put the line back in service

    • @alppalal4966
      @alppalal4966 7 лет назад +5

      Cam Smith They will build a light rail:(

    • @chrispaw1
      @chrispaw1 7 лет назад

      Cam Smith no. Don't. I don't love trains.

    • @jamess3417
      @jamess3417 7 лет назад +39

      Chris Dans too bad their property

    • @Intransitman
      @Intransitman 7 лет назад +6

      BC Electric ran Interurbans along here

    • @SMTMainline
      @SMTMainline 7 лет назад +4

      that's pretty Cool.

  • @kcirrednosrednad3596
    @kcirrednosrednad3596 7 лет назад +342

    Just roll a train down there smashing everything that gets in its way. The community garden, lawn chairs, bbq grills, club houses. Everything will be taken care of by the train and everything will be all cleared out of there then. Problem solved.

    • @kfstreich4787
      @kfstreich4787 7 лет назад +56

      I had a neighbor who was an engineer on the Napa wine train, one day a car crossed his path. the officer taking the report asked if he could have avoided the accident if he swerved to the left ...

    • @sharkheadism
      @sharkheadism 7 лет назад +11

      Things that never happened

    • @TrainsNStuff
      @TrainsNStuff 7 лет назад +3

      @KFStreich @kcirred nosrednad LMAO

    • @Engineer9736
      @Engineer9736 7 лет назад +9

      Is there a problem then? The train company has neatly requested to remove all property months before they are going to run again. I didn’t hear anyone complain in the video. If the train company has it’s right to run the line then they can run the line. If law enforcement is required to do so, then that will happen without a doubt.

    • @2Truth4Liberty
      @2Truth4Liberty 6 лет назад +2

      Sounds good, but they would be held liable in court under the "REASONABLE CARE" standard. The company must operate its business and trains with reasonable care - which means notifying and providing ample time concerning tracks not used in 13 years. PS when rail is abandoned the property rights return to the original (servient estate) owners - although courts generally do not recognize abandonment for rails unless the company makes a formal statement that they are abandoning the rail section.

  • @gstone3148
    @gstone3148 6 лет назад +74

    Although CP has sold this rail line already, The comments on here from some, or one those who are against the company for taking back there rail property is complete asinine thinking at best. The cost to ship extreme heavy goods across long distance far outweighs the cost to ship those same goods the same distance with multiple trucks. Many goods are too heavy to be ship in the mass quantities that trains ship on a daily bases. In spite of how much trains hold in fuel they are much more fuel efficient than using trucks and have a greater cost savings per freight mile than trunks when it comes to shipping the largest of largest amounts of freight long distance. The only other mode of transportation that beats the cost of rail shipping is river barge. Just think about it for a moment. Due to the limitations of road weight allowed per mile on federal hyways in both the us and Canada a single truck is limited on its payload as it is shipped at an average of 450, 500 or so miles with one driver, while a train can ship 80 times more payload with greater weight allowance to a distance greater than 1,200 miles without needed to refuel. Without trains goods will cost several times greater than what they are now.

    • @randomdude440
      @randomdude440 3 года назад +3

      Too much info, I couldn't understand

    • @paididoy
      @paididoy 3 года назад +6

      @@randomdude440 ,then you're dull!

    • @BaileyChap
      @BaileyChap 10 месяцев назад

      @@paididoy Not really, that is a mess of text that seems to be switching between anti-rail and pro-rail. The first half is saying trains CAN'T ship mass quantities long distance more affordably than trucks, and that they are incapable of heavy loads? Then they talk about how trains are still more fuel efficient than trucks. Are river barges more efficient? Should we use barges instead of trains? What argument is being made here?

  • @burdizdawurd1516Official
    @burdizdawurd1516Official 7 лет назад +52

    13 years, that's nothing! The G&U south of Grafton was inactive from the 1980s until 2008. That's 30 years folks, and the weed capital of the world (not Seattle surprisingly) was very upset when gorgeous GP9s a CF7 and BLE F7 720A began working. Let's be realistic, rail is making a comeback. If you don't like it, get out the way!

  • @mickcarson8504
    @mickcarson8504 6 лет назад +16

    Abandoning railways of the past breaks my heart as I have loved steam trains in my time. It was a better America back then.

    • @jadefalcon001
      @jadefalcon001 4 года назад +2

      "It was a better America back then."
      Yeah, if you were a white dude, maybe. It was a lot worse for literally *everyone else.*

    • @mickcarson8504
      @mickcarson8504 4 года назад +1

      @@jadefalcon001
      I don't know anymore about races. You can always say no if you're not happy with whoever is bothering you. That's why you vote.

    • @sanchorim8014
      @sanchorim8014 Год назад

      This is in Canada

  • @earlycuyler9729
    @earlycuyler9729 7 лет назад +20

    As a kid in thr 60s, we used to pull r old Buicks, Olds, etc onto abandoned tracks near our house. Once u let some air out of the tires & got car positioned on tracks, the car would travel down the tracks with trans in "D" & no accelerator - no need to steer. We'd sit on hood & trunk & cruise the rails.

    • @THE1ANDONLYSTILLMIN
      @THE1ANDONLYSTILLMIN 6 лет назад +1

      Sure you did most cars can’t fit the rails wonder wtf you used maybe a child’s play car most likely

    • @jameesmyth7268
      @jameesmyth7268 5 лет назад +1

      @@THE1ANDONLYSTILLMIN yeah true few cars had the right width for the rims to sit right on the track damn few. Story sounds like 100% bullshit.

    • @smartbombdj
      @smartbombdj 5 лет назад +1

      No one who was actually a kid in the 60's would EVER use "r" or "ur", let alone watch Squidbillies. Don't be a troll, and stay in school PLEASE!

  • @wiskyvet
    @wiskyvet 5 лет назад +3

    20 years ago I worked a job in Albany, NY. Some guy had built about a quarter of his garage on Williams Comm. Co. property. Since it wasn't used for years, no one said anything until we went to build on it. NY state said he could keep it since no one said anything in the allotted time. Something about squatter's rights under adverse possession.

  • @smashedcaboose6526
    @smashedcaboose6526 3 года назад +2

    If they owned the line at the time, they had every right to have people move stuff away from the tracks. It is their line after all.

    • @MrWc867
      @MrWc867 3 года назад

      Railroad did not even have to warn anyone, they had every right to come in and remove everything without notice. But they were being very considerate to the people.

  • @MrNurserob
    @MrNurserob 2 года назад +4

    I’m sure the railroad would permit the community garden so long as the train can pass safely without posing a risk to anyone. Rights-of-way we’re given wide berths in order to accommodate variations possibly needed for more favorable conditions in which to lay track, but once it’s already built, the RR is not in the business of sticking it to anyone.

    • @sideshowbob
      @sideshowbob Год назад

      The clearance envelope is typically 25' from the centerline of the track, so, a corridor 50' wide, which is half of what the railroad owns in this case.

  • @96Duelfuel
    @96Duelfuel 5 лет назад +1

    Why couldn't they utilize it some how. Maybe not today but what happens in 20-30 years

  • @davidmorrison3697
    @davidmorrison3697 4 года назад +3

    CP gave warning to vacant the area with a certain time limit. After that CP could just run through it or spray it with defoliant to clear the track. Also it's CP track right of away, so they are on PRIVATE land.

  • @davidtomalty41
    @davidtomalty41 7 лет назад +207

    Good its not their property its CP Rail's

    • @annie482000
      @annie482000 6 лет назад +9

      Basically then, these people are trespassers, right?

    • @homeofthemad3044
      @homeofthemad3044 6 лет назад +1

      annie482000
      Yes

    • @TBAYKILLER
      @TBAYKILLER 6 лет назад

      David Tomalty says the troll with no subs

    • @homeofthemad3044
      @homeofthemad3044 6 лет назад +14

      Joseph Poniatowski
      Why is he a troll? And who cares if he has subs?

    • @royb5014
      @royb5014 6 лет назад +4

      Home of the Mad Dave is upset common sense prevailed. He is one of those entitled liberals.

  • @scopex2749
    @scopex2749 4 года назад +14

    Basically dont place your stake in someone else lot! They have the right to run a train with a cow catcher on the front straight through and clear it them selves but they have asked nicely 🤷🏼‍♂️

    • @None-zc5vg
      @None-zc5vg 4 года назад

      'Ask me nicely'.

    • @MrNurserob
      @MrNurserob 2 года назад

      They sure do, and the rail line can be defunct for decades, but it’s still theirs… I for one would never bet on putting anything “permanent” within the zone of a rail right-of-way; even if the tracks were pulled up. It’s well within their rights to reestablish service.

  • @jimcoulter5877
    @jimcoulter5877 5 лет назад +2

    You can't run a Locomotive over those rails, the ties are all rotted out! You are going to need to replace all that old rusted rail and bolts. You need to remove all that brush Try and use those rails and your Locomotive will be on the ground!

  • @marty8535
    @marty8535 6 лет назад +2

    TRains should (always) have priority.

  • @ridgec5670
    @ridgec5670 4 года назад +6

    Sounds like the pot plants in their garden got to stay after all.

  • @derekheuring4646
    @derekheuring4646 5 лет назад +1

    Back in the Sixties I'd walk from my house at 15th and Arbutus all the way to downtown Vancouver and back using the rail corridor, even crossing False Creek on the rail trestle.

  • @Redcatplayz1255
    @Redcatplayz1255 3 месяца назад +1

    Update on the track: CP did not reactivate the line instead they tore it down and built a trail I’m pretty sure

  • @rondill8429
    @rondill8429 6 лет назад +10

    *Guess thats what happens when ya Squat on others land... Move it or Loose it!*

  • @MilwaukeeF40C
    @MilwaukeeF40C 7 лет назад +3

    In the U.S., I'm pretty sure one can not claim "adverse possession" against railroads or other chartered public utilities. Probably the same in Canada, since both countries share the same common law roots.

    • @jamesevans938
      @jamesevans938 4 года назад

      you can because its a private company that owns the track but all CP have to do is prove that they have visited the the site and the adverse possession case wont go through because CP have asked the community to remove their property therefor they have tried to take back their land and one of the requirements of adverse possession is that owner has not attempted to take their land back

    • @MilwaukeeF40C
      @MilwaukeeF40C 4 года назад +1

      It doesn't matter that they are private corporations, they are still regulated and have powers as public utilities such as eminent domain. Standard "adverse possession" duration is 20 years, but an unused railroad right of way would be perpetually protected past 20 years until it is formally abandoned with approval from the Surface Transportation Board.

  • @krysc2009
    @krysc2009 7 лет назад +4

    To everyone just watching this, Aug 2017, this video is now 3 years old. As to why its popping up in feeds now, I'm not sure. This stretch of track and land has long since been sold to the City of Vancouver, more info can be found here: vancouver.ca/streets-transportation/arbutus-greenway.aspx

    • @Mrfort
      @Mrfort 3 года назад +1

      Popped up in my feed it,s now 2021?

  • @bocabec6744
    @bocabec6744 Год назад +1

    That's nice out there. Those people do not want a goofy train rolling by. It will disturb them. Find another place to put your tracks.

  • @duanethomasdirtpile5737
    @duanethomasdirtpile5737 7 лет назад +18

    yeah CP Rail is breaking down on people on their land they're going all over telling people they need to be 50 feet away from the track we have the same problem at my work we got move stuff to get away from the track I guess it's their property even though they don't use it got to get off it

    • @sharkheadism
      @sharkheadism 7 лет назад

      They said that's generally the rule. The concise answer lies in the property deeds.

    • @kreigdernier9553
      @kreigdernier9553 7 лет назад +6

      sharkheadism the concise answer is that rail right of way by law is 50 ft on both sides minimum period. It has been like that for a very long time. Deeds say a lot of things as the result of ill conceived notions of entitlement and less than professional land surveys.

    • @sharkheadism
      @sharkheadism 7 лет назад +2

      The ROW varies in width along its path, especially in urban areas. That's why the railroad spokesperson said in the video that it's traditionally 50 feet.

    • @kreigdernier9553
      @kreigdernier9553 7 лет назад +1

      sharkheadism yes if it was agreed upon and title to the land was sold. Primarily done in commercial or industrial areas not residential areas. And in this case it certainly was not bought it was merely used by locals without any real consent nor was there a rush by CP to push them out either. The whole point is moot as it was sold in 2016 for 55million dollars which most likely was the real goal of the railway.

    • @sharkheadism
      @sharkheadism 7 лет назад

      Thank you for agreeing with me.

  • @canadiantimberwolf1
    @canadiantimberwolf1 6 лет назад +5

    OK, this was 4 years ago, what's the news about the line now in 2018?

    • @whiteknightcat
      @whiteknightcat 6 лет назад +4

      The city bought the corridor in 2016 for $55 million for use as a greenway to include walking and biking access as well as use as a light rail corridor. As of 2017, development plans are underway to develop the corridor for those uses.
      Ironically, CP removed the rails within five months and the city was forced to begin development of the ROW, which meant the trespassers / squatters lost their gardens anyway.
      dailyhive.com/vancouver/arbutus-corridor-vancouver-streetcar-light-rail

    • @metatechnologist
      @metatechnologist 6 лет назад +2

      whiteknightcat i think that's what this was really about. Getting the city to cough up money for the ROW that citizens were using.

  • @bigredracer7848
    @bigredracer7848 6 лет назад +1

    Cool that a good thing it time that you get the songs of trains moving through your neighborhood I Love Trains I hope you learn to love me as much as me

  • @jjobscure298
    @jjobscure298 5 лет назад +3

    Just looking at the sleepers tell me they will have to rebuild the whole track.

  • @fabrizio4682
    @fabrizio4682 3 года назад +2

    REACTIVE THE LINE :D

  • @tmastersat
    @tmastersat 6 лет назад +10

    Why would anyone place items and a garden on a railroad that they did not own. No matter if it's active or not. That's trespassing

  • @jennitsu12
    @jennitsu12 Год назад +2

    That Railroad has been removed for ever…

  • @railroad9000
    @railroad9000 2 года назад +2

    Trespass is against the law!

  • @bobbypaluga4346
    @bobbypaluga4346 7 лет назад +15

    i wouldn't be too concerned about the garden, when temperatures drop below freezing, it will be gone, turned into a morass of brown foliage. Sometimes when people get used to being given a few feet to use temporarily, that foot grows into miles, along with having the "temporary use of" evolves to "Its our land, our garden" followed by protests making CP look like Stalinists. We live in an entitlement society, hence "we want it, we deserve it, it's ours) I let a friend use one of my vehicles when his were repossessed, I have no idea where he is or the condition of the car. One of my best friends did the same thing, allowed his daughter and son-in-law to use his Mercedes SUV over the summer. Now he needs it back so he can go to and from his teaching position, with university staring in a week; he's told "We put a lot of money into it, (a new tire, as well as new sparkplugs, and a windshield that their insurance paid for) so it should be ours. He hates to take his daughter and son-in-law to court but...... You don't mess with railroads, they don't much care what you want. If they had to fight to use the "right of ways" they own, they would never leave the courts building. As well they pay a LOT of taxes whether they are actively using all the owned property or not.

    • @AdhamOhm
      @AdhamOhm 7 лет назад +2

      "i wouldn't be too concerned about the garden, when temperatures drop below freezing, it will be gone, turned into a morass of brown foliage"
      Wow it's almost like it's a garden in a temperate zone or something.
      "As well they pay a LOT of taxes whether they are actively using all the owned property or not."
      CP would also have to pay thousands per year for 5 miles' worth of grass cutting and other upkeep like weed removal, which they weren't doing because of all the people with their gardens or using the land as extensions of their lawns were taking care of the upkeep for them. If anything these freeloaders were saving CP money.

  • @MadMax-yq9ix
    @MadMax-yq9ix 7 лет назад +7

    Always stay clear in case military trains have to use them.

  • @LisaSmith-tb8bb
    @LisaSmith-tb8bb 6 лет назад +5

    Looking forward to seeing the train again

  • @Tsuruta1
    @Tsuruta1 5 лет назад +1

    That would have been an automatic no no.
    If the tracks were never pulled up, no way would I take residence there to begin with.

  • @cinthia9602
    @cinthia9602 4 года назад +1

    Was it ever re-activated?

  • @mr.l6615
    @mr.l6615 7 лет назад +4

    The city wouldn't pay a fair price to the railroad for the property so they decided to take it back, fully. Blame Gregor Robertson.

    • @kfstreich4787
      @kfstreich4787 7 лет назад +2

      Mr. L well that's a nice tidbit of information they left out, I wonder what the rest looked like? was it all gardens or was there garbage and huts?

  • @jennitsu12
    @jennitsu12 Год назад +1

    I would like to be on that train!!

  • @honestycounts9352
    @honestycounts9352 7 лет назад +2

    So basically everything on either side of the tracks will have to be removed; everything within 50 feet on both sides. Wow, that also includes some telephone poles too.

    • @sharkheadism
      @sharkheadism 7 лет назад +1

      Utilities can have easements on others' land, including railroad rights-of-way.

    • @evangiles9249
      @evangiles9249 6 лет назад

      Not necessarily with the telephone poles because CP may have granted the utility the right to put them there

  • @MartyLJ57
    @MartyLJ57 5 лет назад +3

    Any updates on this reactivation?

    • @jg-7780
      @jg-7780 3 года назад

      Apparently CP sold it in 2016 to become a greenway or something

  • @buixrule
    @buixrule 4 года назад +2

    So how did this all turn out? Are they going to reactivate that line?

  • @kenbrashear210
    @kenbrashear210 6 лет назад +1

    I thought Canada used the metric system. The reporter said feet 50 on either side of the tracks

    • @davidmorrison3697
      @davidmorrison3697 4 года назад

      Ay that would make it 17 feet 1 inch from center of track, from the rail that makes it 12 feet 5 inches. Not much room don't you think!!!!!!

    • @davidmorrison3697
      @davidmorrison3697 4 года назад

      50 feet to meters is 17 feet 1inch!!!!!

  • @jimbobogie8204
    @jimbobogie8204 6 лет назад

    Why don't they reactivate the track on Vancouver Island and run a passenger train between Victoria and Nanaimo?

  • @raztaz826
    @raztaz826 7 лет назад

    3 years ago, old news but youtube wanted me to watch it.

  • @Noobixm
    @Noobixm Год назад +1

    Wasn’t the line sold to the city long ago?

  • @MyBiggerProblems
    @MyBiggerProblems 4 года назад +1

    No no no, that’s not their property. That’s the railroad’s property and they had no right to put stuff on it.

  • @Jay_Force_One
    @Jay_Force_One 5 месяцев назад

    It was nice of them to let people use the land for a while, but I think they should leave it as is. Go in there and trim up the tracks and it will be good. I don’t think there is anything of impedance to the railroad there. So what if there is some gardens near the tracks.

  • @Butwhat1776
    @Butwhat1776 6 лет назад +1

    I'm not so sure they want to use that track. it looks in pretty rough shape!!!

  • @robtyman4281
    @robtyman4281 3 года назад

    I never understand why (in 2021) American TV News still have reporters with massive microphones?!! Don't any American reporters wear small microphones that clip onto clothing (shirts, blouses etc). It's quite weird for someone from the UK to see this. We stopped having reporters with large microphones years ago (maybe 20 or more).

    • @budmeister
      @budmeister 2 года назад

      You get a clearer voice with the bigger microphones and noise filter.

  • @kylefogle5972
    @kylefogle5972 7 лет назад +13

    Love seeing old rails come back to life!! :)

    • @dylanstrang4540
      @dylanstrang4540 6 лет назад +1

      Kyle Fogle they didn’t bring it back they actually sold the land..... now the people can keep their garden on the bright side

  • @Baskerville22
    @Baskerville22 4 года назад +1

    Quite right, too.

  • @johnk1955
    @johnk1955 7 лет назад +39

    So it's now 3 years later (2017), whatever happened?

    • @ariesmight4141
      @ariesmight4141 7 лет назад +18

      Vucky abx. Mabe becaous he dosen't have their phone #.

    • @krysc2009
      @krysc2009 7 лет назад +11

      CP sold the land to the City of Vancouver, heres a link to the Van website with more info vancouver.ca/streets-transportation/arbutus-greenway.aspx

    • @deezynar
      @deezynar 7 лет назад +14

      Pretty clever. Tell people to get their crap off of your land because we're thinking about starting rail use again. That is sure to make the value of the land go way up so you get top dollar when the city buys it to keep any more railroad activity from happening on it.

    • @christopherlong2301
      @christopherlong2301 7 лет назад +9

      The rails have been removed and it is now a paved walking and cycling path which, is pretty much what it was being used for in the first place.

    • @HONEmusicINT
      @HONEmusicINT 6 лет назад +11

      Mayor Moonbeam bought the line at a ridiculous price, then tore out the rails that could have been used as a great LRT line and turned it into a glorified sidewalk

  • @robertgift
    @robertgift 5 лет назад +1

    I don't blame people for makingood use of the land withe community garden. Enjoy it while you can. They know it can easily be removed.

  • @jameesmyth7268
    @jameesmyth7268 5 лет назад +3

    City of Vancouver Canada bout the property for 55 million to turn in to a greenway

  • @indridcold8433
    @indridcold8433 5 лет назад

    I do not know what made people think the residents could take over the railroad property.

  • @LiliaArmoury
    @LiliaArmoury 4 года назад +1

    so what happened with this route is it now in use?

    • @rogerlaurel2363
      @rogerlaurel2363 3 года назад

      No! The property was sold 5 years ago. The rails, ties, tie & fische plates removed, ballast picked up. It was turned into a Greenway & in some sections, low cost public housing was built on the property. The train is NEVER coming back! It is now a designated delivery flyway for Amazon flying drones. Progress moves forward & the trains are left for more modern transportation. Motor trucks & drones. Cheaper, more flexible & far less costly! Tough up, kid!

  • @whocares397
    @whocares397 5 лет назад +3

    i am guessen the rail was never put back in serivce and all this was for nothing

  • @jmyers9853
    @jmyers9853 5 лет назад +1

    this track looks better than the ND&W Railway (Maumee and Western) in another video

  • @digimaks
    @digimaks 5 лет назад +1

    50 feet? Those guys at CP are crazy or what? It was their responsibility to watch their tracks maintenance and clearances. If they fail to do so and abandon the track, it's part of their fault. Then one day come running demanding their track to be cleared - and it is not even known if the track will be put to use at all !!!! They will run to their accountant, and find out that repairing that track will cost money- and will abandon the track once again.

    • @norbertdx
      @norbertdx 5 лет назад

      Did I miss the word "abandon" being used, I thought the reporter only said haven't been used?

  • @jessieblanton9875
    @jessieblanton9875 4 года назад +2

    Rain road has 25 feet both side of track 50 in all

  • @aluisiomaydana7251
    @aluisiomaydana7251 4 года назад

    até no Canadá tem 🚆 trilhos desativados, aqui em Alegrete rs tá bem assim, o vídeo aí tá bem parecido como aqui com matos e plantações na viação férrea.

  • @samuelanketell8190
    @samuelanketell8190 2 года назад +1

    It's 2012 now ... so what is the result? Did they reopen it ?

    • @aaronb7631
      @aaronb7631 2 года назад

      2012?!? Don't you mean 2022? LOL

  • @ChesterWolf
    @ChesterWolf 6 лет назад +3

    I don't see why people are getting upset about this that property belongs to the RAILROAD Point Blank there's no discussing it there's no getting around it TP owns a property and they will do so until the end of time. The national railways are protected under federal law which means that is federal property technically everyone who occupied the railroads property should be arrested for criminal trespass. And willful property rights violation for those of you who don't know that means when you occupy lean but does not do them to you such as a vacant lot it just use car park or in abandoned home or building.

  • @cjeam9199
    @cjeam9199 7 лет назад +9

    CP ripped up some of the gardens. The city bought the tracks in 2015 and CP then ripped up the tracks. It's now a greenway.

    • @evangiles9249
      @evangiles9249 6 лет назад

      Wrong although the tracks may have been taken up the railway still owns the right of way unless you can provide legally documented proof that the sold of the right of way
      At least the UK has the forthought to keep the majority of it's railways rights of way so hence forth they have been relaying hundereds of Klm's of track
      Out here in Aus the stupid state governments have simply abandoned it all together

    • @niyablake
      @niyablake 6 лет назад

      US is different. Lets say I bought 50 acres of land with a train tracks that runs right through it. If the line is declared abandoned the property goes to me.

    • @SpellOfSin
      @SpellOfSin 6 лет назад

      @mmaaxx1198 you sound autistic

  • @richardclarke376
    @richardclarke376 6 лет назад +2

    "I am Arbutus of CP Rail. You now service us."

  • @knightclassic1
    @knightclassic1 Год назад +1

    Update? Is the track back active since?

    • @BLDR_2023.
      @BLDR_2023. Год назад +1

      no. CPrail sold it to the city and it is now a greenway

  • @paulbetka2966
    @paulbetka2966 3 года назад

    GOING 8 YEARS ❗ GIVE US AN UPDATE 👍🏻👍🏻❗❗👹😡
    DID THEY START USING THE TRACK'S ❓❓❓🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♀️

  • @fiercetrains4052
    @fiercetrains4052 6 лет назад +1

    That's good; an old track coming back to life.

  • @QImpact
    @QImpact 6 лет назад

    Not sure if there are any squatters rights in play here. 13 years is a lot of time, although in some places in Canada they are 20 years and in other places there is no squatters right at all.

  • @jackdough8164
    @jackdough8164 2 года назад

    Shouldn’t build over ROW’s. Especially if it’s not abandoned

  • @LectronCircuits
    @LectronCircuits 3 года назад +1

    Nearly seven years on, what's the status of this corridor? Per chance many folks are getting trained. Cheers!

    • @rogerlaurel2363
      @rogerlaurel2363 3 года назад +1

      No! The property was sold 5 years ago. The rails, ties, tie & fische plates removed, ballast picked up. It was turned into a Greenway & in some sections, low cost public housing was built on the property. The train is NEVER coming back! It is now a designated delivery flyway for Amazon flying drones. Progress moves forward & the trains are left for more modern transportation. Motor trucks & drones. Cheaper, more flexible & far less costly! Tough up, kid!

  • @boisehingis2399
    @boisehingis2399 6 лет назад +2

    Community garden? Get out of the way, CP rails always prevail!

    • @AT-fc6kz
      @AT-fc6kz 3 года назад

      Company man for CP?

  • @trapezemusic
    @trapezemusic 3 года назад +1

    Is an update available? Was the line reactivated?

    • @rogerlaurel2363
      @rogerlaurel2363 3 года назад

      No! The property was sold 5 years ago. The rails, ties, tie & fische plates removed, ballast picked up. It was turned into a Greenway & in some sections, low cost public housing was built on the property. The train is NEVER coming back! It is now a designated delivery flyway for Amazon flying drones. Progress moves forward & the trains are left for more modern transportation. Motor trucks & drones. Cheaper, more flexible & far less costly! Tough up, kid!

  • @daniellibich1376
    @daniellibich1376 6 лет назад

    As CP rail has plans on possibility reactivating its Arbutus corridor when they warned property owners on the line to clear the line when they gave a short timeframe to have the line cleared as what if the railway partnered with the city of Vancouver when railway workers along with city workers had the okay to clear the line as what if costs are recouped from the property taxes.

  • @Reimu__Hakurei
    @Reimu__Hakurei Год назад

    Did they restore this line?

  • @patrickpat8878
    @patrickpat8878 7 лет назад

    Yes They have the right of it , my father in 1990 have bought a part of an abandoned railroad from the CP that is 60 feets wide on each side by 1.6 km long make a road access with it and buy some land fields on each side that wasn't sold , then sell the road to the township , and sell every land parcels formerly CP from the road to the land owner ( about 40 feet by the width of the land of the owner ) for cheap.
    Not long before my bought the abandoned railroad, the CP removed the the old rails from the erra , And they forced all those who have build bridge and other construction within the 60 feet to remove all that , and they have inspected all that , no one have asked permission to build or use the railroad to get access to their lands , fortunately it was the only way to get access anyway . Also very large trees was cut down etc ... they was risking big .... they all receive letters by lawyers....

  • @mattalbrecht7471
    @mattalbrecht7471 3 года назад

    How about a follow-up?

  • @mattalbrecht7471
    @mattalbrecht7471 6 лет назад

    so did they reactivate the line? a little follow up?

  • @MrPAULONEAL
    @MrPAULONEAL 4 года назад +2

    It has been converted into a greenway.

  • @5thHouse
    @5thHouse 7 лет назад +7

    so this was 3 years ago. Any update?

    • @cpufreak101
      @cpufreak101 7 лет назад +1

      Fifth House land sold to the city of Vancouver, tracks ripped up and turned into a greenway

    • @5thHouse
      @5thHouse 7 лет назад

      Thanks for the follow up!

    • @christopherlong2301
      @christopherlong2301 7 лет назад +2

      Well I don't know about a green way. Paved walking and cycling path anyway.

    • @KandiKlover
      @KandiKlover 6 лет назад +1

      Christopher Long sweet. More room for my segway.

  • @scottfirman
    @scottfirman 7 лет назад +4

    Its the railroads property anyways. Those that break the law by doing things like that should expect to get a ticket. Even if the railroad hasn't used it in 25 years,its still theirs. If a manufacturer decides they want bulk carrier to transport along a corridor that hasnt been used,you can bet the railroad will invest in their trackage. This all brings in capital for the railroad.

    • @sharkheadism
      @sharkheadism 7 лет назад

      You are The Economics Genius

    • @jameesmyth7268
      @jameesmyth7268 5 лет назад

      remember at one time they use to get some time of check from the US got for every mile of track they had . I know of a guy here that owns like 3 miles of track he leases out to BNSF for storage and he has own little train that used to run street tracks in town that are now gone. He is doing pretty well with what he gets from BNSF and the govt.

  • @EqualizerPG
    @EqualizerPG 6 лет назад +4

    Long since over but pretty self entitled to take something that’s not yours. The city of Vancouver was pretty ridiculous over the whole thing.

  • @BADBIKERBENNY
    @BADBIKERBENNY 3 года назад

    They should have made this part a trolly line. This was once part of the interurban railway system.

  • @Larchevis
    @Larchevis 2 года назад

    В России таких заброшек полно. По всей вероятности будет еще больше. Многие уже исчезли с местности. Можно такие заброшки найти и в Москве.

  • @MrIdasam
    @MrIdasam 6 лет назад +1

    I still need to get my stuff moved out of the way, I've been putting it off.

  • @jlking8935
    @jlking8935 4 года назад +1

    It's a walking and bike trail now, looks nice

  • @allenatkins2263
    @allenatkins2263 4 года назад +1

    Not the community garden! What's next move my car?

  • @RCT1963
    @RCT1963 4 года назад +1

    Update as of April 2020?

    • @STREET24000
      @STREET24000 4 года назад +1

      It’s a walking/biking trail now apparently. And has been for a while now I think.