For the supports - check with the company whether their stls are designed to print without support. Even if it does need supports, I tend to use CURA (Ultimaker) and they have this neat little setting for "tree supports". The supports peel off or clip off easily - particularly for 28mm miniatures (and smaller). I don't know if other slicers offer similar options as I only have expedience with Cura. But tree supports have made minis easier, and more viable after support removal - no more loss of limbs, weapons, or supports wrapped tightly to the leg that cannot be removed. Printable Scenery have a range of good ships that fit the Elven, Human aesthetic (amongst others) as well as a big ship that matches Dark Elves if you haven't checked them out already. Great video btw - more involvement from the team in different aspects is also very cool as evidenced by Jenn's project. adds additional perspective and creates opportunity for discussion on video.
You would probably be able to get away with not having supports on the ork boat. There's no big overhangs that I can see, and it would save you a ton of time and headaches. Love the boats and love the channel!
Yo-ho, me hearties! Shiver me timbers! Jen's boat is a great use of the Throne of Blood, I think that the kit usually looks a bit weird on its little wheels. Getting some water on your fingers when smoothing out the milliput on the Orc Ship, makes it easier to buff in to shape. The Orc Ship in the storm looks great, and gave me a real KLF, "America: What Time is Love", vibe (I realize that you might have to ask your parents, or grandparents about that reference).
If Jenn is going to be here more often you could even try to find a way to add the daughters of khaine in to the narrative campaign. It would make the world feel more complex and deep
I've been 3d printing for years and I never select rafts at the bottom as part of the support structure. The cleanup afterwards is horrendous. Once you fine tune and get some more experience with the 3d printer, it becomes a lot less painless. Looking forward to the journey!
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Oh my now i wanna see you all putting that ship into a battle! Lets taint the seas with so much blood that will paint the shores red! (Btw a half land half sea battle would be interesting too hmm... 🤔)
The Boat of The Daughters of Khain was Amazing.. I love it... Fight for our god Khain.. May the murder and slaughter begin...😈😈😈 The other boat looks good too.
lol, got to love having a support system where just nudging the supports breaks them off as cleanly as you can hope for without a dissolvable filament. pro tip if you want to use fmd for things that need craploads of support, get a 2 nozzle printer and load one with dissolvable filament, its the newar idiot proof method.
when using a dremel, you either want toothed saw blades, and relatively large toothed ones at a slow speed, or you want wood carving tools (the bits with burrs and crap on balls cones or cylinders), again at slow speeds, fast will melt the crap unless you want to clean the tools often.
Dave, I think some others already said it, but tree supports might help you. That said, those supports were waaaaay too close to the model, you can tweak all that to reduce the damage and make them easier to remove. Also, not 100% sure that model required supports at all. Even the windows, with how small they are, could've been printed without supports without major issues. Buuuut it's only a hunch based on what I'm seeing in the video, I might be totally wrong about that.
You know how many hobgrods parts you left after building 20 from dominion, I give you an idea of sculpting crew of pirate hobgrots, you need bases leg for each and some front part or sculpted chest.
Gotta love seeing more old school boats, some day I will build the one kit I have, for now i stay with modern warships. I already hate doing the rigging on my current models, not looking forward to doing it on a sail boat (since I want to make custom fabric sails)
Let's be real: between ground combat, aerial fights and interstellar conflicts that are definitely cool, naval battles has always been lacking by GW. There is something magical about fighting on the great blue, with sinking ships and close quarter combat but most importantly boarding the enemy vessel slinging from ropes and swashbuckling
You'll want to check out Firelock Games' Blood and Plunder. But if you want to really feel like the captain of a ship, go with Sailpower, the only thing you might find that doesn't scratch you, is the man to man battle is an aggregated die roll
FYI, you only really need supports if an overhang is greater than 45 degrees, sticks out more than about half a centimeter, or is a bridge to something. Supporting anything else is, 95% of the time, a waste of plastic and cumbersome.
Me sees the dark scary boat. Also me - This is either Daughters of Khaine or Slaves to Darkness Jen - Mentions Daughters of Khaine Me - I DON'T EVEN PLAY AGE OF SIGMAR HOW!!!!!!!!!!
I feel bad saying this but, the boat probably didnt need supports... there might have been enough curve to the overhang that it might have printed just fine.
I think GW needs to make these official. At least I would buy the Battlefleet Gothic battleships. And Sigmar offers just so much creativity with all factions
I've been FDM printing for a good few years now, so maybe I can offer you some tips. Settings are crucial when it comes to mechanical fits on FDM parts. Not only do you need to calibrate for single or multiple axis shrinkage, but you need to make sure your nozzle's geometry is compensated for. A 0.4mm nozzle, by default, means that 0.2mm of the extrusion sits outside the exact tracking line of the print head and 0.2mm sits inside. You can compensate for this by using a 0.2mm nozzle offset in your slicer settings, and using an additional inner hole diameter offset can help to ensure a tiny bit of extra space for adhesives even if you simply model your parts to be perfect press fits. You can also play around with the order of operations to reduce the amount of necessary support material by making the walls print from the inside out. Lastly, a dense interface with a double or triple layer height air gap between support and model can be useful to aid in removal of supports and reduction of support scarring, while breaking your supports into chunks can make the removal process much more manageable. That said, I think the end result of your work looks fantastic and I especially like how you were able to make the support scars just look like weathering and damage. That base coat on the wood really brought it to life in a big hurry.
The US Navy considers a watercraft to be a ship when the part above the waterline leans away from turns and a boat when the part above the waterline leans toward turns. Historically, a ship had 3 or more square rigged masts, and a boat was anything smaller than that, making all three of these boats. In the modern age, the distinctions are much less clear, and will differ culturally, legally, and from case to case. While the proportions more closely resemble a ship than a boat on 2 of the 3, subjectively, in my opinion, I would not assert that any of them are ships rather than boats.
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It would be so fun having units on the boats setting up bridges between enemy ones, infiltrating, stuff like that would make a great narrative
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Yes! Jen is full time TTT now! Cant wait for more content!
The tv backgrounds have majorly upped the reveal shots omg! The boat looks sooo good!!
i'm so excited to see more of jenn !!!!
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For the supports - check with the company whether their stls are designed to print without support. Even if it does need supports, I tend to use CURA (Ultimaker) and they have this neat little setting for "tree supports". The supports peel off or clip off easily - particularly for 28mm miniatures (and smaller). I don't know if other slicers offer similar options as I only have expedience with Cura. But tree supports have made minis easier, and more viable after support removal - no more loss of limbs, weapons, or supports wrapped tightly to the leg that cannot be removed. Printable Scenery have a range of good ships that fit the Elven, Human aesthetic (amongst others) as well as a big ship that matches Dark Elves if you haven't checked them out already.
Great video btw - more involvement from the team in different aspects is also very cool as evidenced by Jenn's project. adds additional perspective and creates opportunity for discussion on video.
I'm very excited to see more from Jenn! I love how everyone brings something unique to tbt and it's all united under a passion for the hobby 😄
Flapper sanding disc for the dremel would help with clean up and fitment. Fun video peeps.
OMG that video of the beach in the background! lol. I put that on my TV screen all the time while I'm having an afternoon nap! Love that one! haha.
Jen's boat is the coolest, it had to be told!
Really enjoying the craft and painting side of table top time!
You would probably be able to get away with not having supports on the ork boat. There's no big overhangs that I can see, and it would save you a ton of time and headaches. Love the boats and love the channel!
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I was so happy when I saw Jen in the video that I liked it 20 seconds in. More Jen I am so here for that !
This is some of my favorite content randomly making things for eachother just because
Yay for Jen! These boats turned out so good, I might have to do some printing and painting myself 👀
Sneakretly is my new favorite word.
those tv shots are so cool, can't wait to see the battle reports with them
The showcase background screen works wonderfully! Great job!
Jenns is finally in a mini video
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Yo-ho, me hearties! Shiver me timbers! Jen's boat is a great use of the Throne of Blood, I think that the kit usually looks a bit weird on its little wheels.
Getting some water on your fingers when smoothing out the milliput on the Orc Ship, makes it easier to buff in to shape.
The Orc Ship in the storm looks great, and gave me a real KLF, "America: What Time is Love", vibe (I realize that you might have to ask your parents, or grandparents about that reference).
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Cool! Who doesn't love fantasy world ships? These are just great!
If Jenn is going to be here more often you could even try to find a way to add the daughters of khaine in to the narrative campaign. It would make the world feel more complex and deep
Oh.. .the DoK boat is so good. What a great bash. Now I feel like I need to make a Nurgle boat for fun....
I've been 3d printing for years and I never select rafts at the bottom as part of the support structure. The cleanup afterwards is horrendous. Once you fine tune and get some more experience with the 3d printer, it becomes a lot less painless. Looking forward to the journey!
Love the content that u guys are putting out!
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So good to see this stuff coming together.
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@@bukukie992 well, in more way than one. The team growing. The plans coming together. The ships, armies and dioramas coming together. Community, coming together.....
AYE THATS SO SICK! Congratulations Jen! so glad we're helping to grow this incredible channel. 😊
That was an awesome video, that boat looks so cool!
Yay! Hi Jen!
Oh my now i wanna see you all putting that ship into a battle! Lets taint the seas with so much blood that will paint the shores red! (Btw a half land half sea battle would be interesting too hmm... 🤔)
I’m an old hand having owned the generals compendium. This is pure nostalgia.
The Boat of The Daughters of Khain was Amazing.. I love it... Fight for our god Khain.. May the murder and slaughter begin...😈😈😈
The other boat looks good too.
Looks like you should have been able to print that without supports, except under the very front spar. maybe change your support angle
Flush cut handsaws cut plastic from 3d printing well and don't melt the plastic at all/very little.
lol, got to love having a support system where just nudging the supports breaks them off as cleanly as you can hope for without a dissolvable filament.
pro tip if you want to use fmd for things that need craploads of support, get a 2 nozzle printer and load one with dissolvable filament, its the newar idiot proof method.
when using a dremel, you either want toothed saw blades, and relatively large toothed ones at a slow speed, or you want wood carving tools (the bits with burrs and crap on balls cones or cylinders), again at slow speeds, fast will melt the crap unless you want to clean the tools often.
Good day to all
You could try replacing the dremel with a hand drill. The lower RPM means it melts less things.
Look up 3D printing DM’s support settings for FDM printers! Makes supports easier to remove!
Dave, I think some others already said it, but tree supports might help you. That said, those supports were waaaaay too close to the model, you can tweak all that to reduce the damage and make them easier to remove. Also, not 100% sure that model required supports at all. Even the windows, with how small they are, could've been printed without supports without major issues. Buuuut it's only a hunch based on what I'm seeing in the video, I might be totally wrong about that.
noice keep up the good work!
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Yay Jen👏👏👏👏🤗💕
You know how many hobgrods parts you left after building 20 from dominion, I give you an idea of sculpting crew of pirate hobgrots, you need bases leg for each and some front part or sculpted chest.
Gotta love seeing more old school boats, some day I will build the one kit I have, for now i stay with modern warships. I already hate doing the rigging on my current models, not looking forward to doing it on a sail boat (since I want to make custom fabric sails)
Where can I get the modular paint station you have behind you? (mini drawers, paint holders, etc)
The mighty Dave and General Jenobi? I approve!
Dave's evil laugh when jazz is handed the boat was so funny
Dave, you should look into tree supports. I know Cura has that option to switch the support type. Tree supports come off super easy
nice , NICE !
Where did you get the kits you initially started with?
Could we get the links to where you guys got the boats so we can support them aswell?
Let's be real: between ground combat, aerial fights and interstellar conflicts that are definitely cool, naval battles has always been lacking by GW.
There is something magical about fighting on the great blue, with sinking ships and close quarter combat but most importantly boarding the enemy vessel slinging from ropes and swashbuckling
You'll want to check out Firelock Games' Blood and Plunder. But if you want to really feel like the captain of a ship, go with Sailpower, the only thing you might find that doesn't scratch you, is the man to man battle is an aggregated die roll
@@joshpotter9261 Thank you for the advice.
I'll check them out
Winter in Australia looks like summer in Germany this year.
Why mudladz not have sails? Just hang some tattered cloth from the rafters? :)
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You should sell the mud lads shields because you already have a mold
Where is the 3d print boat from?
Are campains and one shots coming soon?
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We just released part 1 to a mini campaign, and the first episode of our next major campaign will stream next week!
@@TabletopTime great thanks!!
Sincerely lumineth theme, I'd expect something more extravagant and more bright. The dark elf one is more themed.
Jenn in a minni video!!!
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TIP: supports for resin printers work just as well on fdm printers!
FYI, you only really need supports if an overhang is greater than 45 degrees, sticks out more than about half a centimeter, or is a bridge to something. Supporting anything else is, 95% of the time, a waste of plastic and cumbersome.
Me sees the dark scary boat.
Also me - This is either Daughters of Khaine or Slaves to Darkness
Jen - Mentions Daughters of Khaine
Me - I DON'T EVEN PLAY AGE OF SIGMAR HOW!!!!!!!!!!
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yee, very cool
I feel bad saying this but, the boat probably didnt need supports... there might have been enough curve to the overhang that it might have printed just fine.
This is amazing
I'm also making a boat out of sculpty clay Right. Now.
It might be in the oven, but it isn't on fire.
Unlike this video. amazing work
I think GW needs to make these official.
At least I would buy the Battlefleet Gothic battleships.
And Sigmar offers just so much creativity with all factions
So General's Compendium 2002/2003?
Kharadron Overlords be like: "OI!That's MY thing!!!" :'D
Amazing video guys, keep up the awesome content!
To any spiderfang grots players looking to play this suppliment, I'd like to bring to your attention that some spiders can swim
If jenn and dave are both ttt who is running the shop?
Dave, what's the name of your game store?
Getting Naught...ical!
What are the rules for this game like
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stop uploading that much amazing comment i have to miss some, but i don´t want to don´t make me choose i have work to do XD hahaha
Where's the battle Dave?
I've been FDM printing for a good few years now, so maybe I can offer you some tips.
Settings are crucial when it comes to mechanical fits on FDM parts. Not only do you need to calibrate for single or multiple axis shrinkage, but you need to make sure your nozzle's geometry is compensated for. A 0.4mm nozzle, by default, means that 0.2mm of the extrusion sits outside the exact tracking line of the print head and 0.2mm sits inside. You can compensate for this by using a 0.2mm nozzle offset in your slicer settings, and using an additional inner hole diameter offset can help to ensure a tiny bit of extra space for adhesives even if you simply model your parts to be perfect press fits. You can also play around with the order of operations to reduce the amount of necessary support material by making the walls print from the inside out. Lastly, a dense interface with a double or triple layer height air gap between support and model can be useful to aid in removal of supports and reduction of support scarring, while breaking your supports into chunks can make the removal process much more manageable.
That said, I think the end result of your work looks fantastic and I especially like how you were able to make the support scars just look like weathering and damage. That base coat on the wood really brought it to life in a big hurry.
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There's definitely something wrong with your settings, those supports are not normal
Is anyone going to tell them that those are all an "S" word? No? Guess I'll do it those are ships not boats come on
The US Navy considers a watercraft to be a ship when the part above the waterline leans away from turns and a boat when the part above the waterline leans toward turns. Historically, a ship had 3 or more square rigged masts, and a boat was anything smaller than that, making all three of these boats. In the modern age, the distinctions are much less clear, and will differ culturally, legally, and from case to case. While the proportions more closely resemble a ship than a boat on 2 of the 3, subjectively, in my opinion, I would not assert that any of them are ships rather than boats.
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Gah what a tease mentioning the high sea rules and then not sharing!
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Holy sh*t! Not gonna lie, Jen is really easy on the eyes. More content with her, please. :-)
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No sails...? No ropes...?
Can you please tell me how
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"Project" not "Proo ject"...
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