I loved the RPD Building, but I was underwhelmed by the Spencer Mansion (but mostly because that should be a set for the most part, to make it look unrealistic).
One of THE coolest characters in fiction, who perfectly mixes in humor, reduced to that. Doesn't look like him in the slightest too. I thought it was supposed to be Carlos lmao
Fair, they tried so hard to make everyone fit in the narrative there was a ton of character assassination. TBH had they just done a escape room with zombies with just Jill, Chris, Barry and Wesker it would be way more faihful . . I love clarie and Leon but srsly it's okay to produce a first movie without them considering the mansion incident occurred at least two weeks before the fall of raccoon city.
@@grumpykitten3683 I think mixing 2 and 3 instead would have been better of that HAD to mix any. Since they both happen pretty much at the same time. Mixing in 1 feels wrong
If Johannes was given the greenlight for the sequel, he was gonna make it a mix of Code Veronica and RE4 with the inclusion of Chris punching the boulder from RE5. Robbie Amell said he was looking forward to filming that scene.
@@sascha495I actually liked the stupid over the top action in the games. I hated the too serious tone of the games. Tbh I came in on OG re 4 because I hated tank controls and weird camera angles.
I liked it. It was a lot better than the older RE movies. It's problem was trying to force two games into one movie. They should've stuck with the first game as the focus of the movie. Also, I think they were trying so hard to get away from those garbage Anderson movies that they cut back on quality.
I didn't like the Anderson films either I actually have a inside joke with my friends in regards to the series. BUT I've tried to watch welcome to raccoon City three times now and I fallen asleep each time. I'm glad you liked it but I'm having a hard time understanding what you did like about it.
@@atomic747go fuck yourself biased Paul Anderson fanboy this movie was made for real resident evil fans the Paul Anderson resident evil movies were for fake fans like you
The thing that I would have done differently is combine resident evil 0 & resident evil 1 storylines and then I would have saved resident evil 2 & resident evil 3’s storylines for the sequel
I hate how they made Raccoon City into a small town. It never could've captured the vibe of sheer large scale urban destruction and chaos that RE2 and RE3 had.
I keep saying they should just make a Residing Evil series. That would give it more time to flesh out big things from the games like Claire and Shirley.
They need to just make RE a TV show. That way they can actually do a proper retelling of the series. Season one could either be just RE1 or a mix of both RE0 and RE1. and season 2 could be both 2 and 3. And from there on since each game tends to be years apart. Each season could probably be just one game. Season 3 could be Code Veronica season 4 would obviously be RE4 and so on. TV just works so much better than a movie. Since shows have way more time to flesh out the story.
The problem is to come along and say “We're going to make a faithful adaptation” and, at the same time, not understand anything about Wesker, Umbrella and the Tryant project. The original concepts seemed to have a better grasp of the game. But we had the worst idea in the world: to merge the first 3 games.
I’m sorry to say, but I hope this reboot stays dead. It’s seriously fanfiction quality that makes the first two Paul Anderson films worthy as an adaptation. The scope of the setting was absolutely off putting presenting it as a derelict small town. Seeing the big rig crash overhead was awful because it nearly goes through the “city” in one shot. Raccoon City’s fall was captured immensely better in *Apocalypse* and it didn’t even use any iconic locations. It captured a full cityscape from the suburbs, skyscrapers, overpasse, and the city hall. Also depicting Umbrella as a tangible force, so we got to see their response to the outbreak. Collapsing the “city” and the shot of Tall Oaks was absolutely abysmal. They just botched the most beloved and revered setting in the entire franchise and they thought revealing a less favored setting was going to be a surprise. Let alone the pacing and plot advancement, mischaracterization, and total misunderstanding of the levity of the story. They couldn’t even live up to the title ffs. 🤦 P.S. whatever they had planned with Ada as Wesker’s savior, send that straight to the trash! Awful film, not even worth a rewatch.
Some fair points. I think you missed the fact that the city was becoming a ghost town even without the outbreak occuring. The police station was closing and only the skeleton crew was left; a plot device taken directly from Assault on Precinct 13. Johannes Roberts effectively mirrors the style of John Carpenter; and WTRC is as if Carpenter made his own Resident Evil movie. Half the movie is taken from Assault on Precinct 13. Most of the mood and atmosphere is lifted from The Fog. Johannes also purposefully made Leon have an arc from fuck-up to hero. He starts off as Jack Burton from Big Trouble in Little China, then grows into Napolean Wilson from Assault on Precinct 13 and ends up as RJ MacReady from The Thing. A lot of this was cut from the theatrical release. A lot in general was cut. I believe 45 minutes was cut out and I hope that some day we will get the "director's cut" of the movie. Yeah, it has really bad CGI, the two scenes with the licensed songs are disjointed and would have been better with dreary scores, nobody seems to notice that it's purposefully full of humor, and the editing around missing footage really becomes noticeable. Also, I agree that Constantin Films is atrocious. I still give it an 8/10 and put it on every once in a while. I know many people don't like it and I'm not gonna change any minds, but I still try to fairly defend the movie.
My problem with the ghost town aspect is that the movie only half way commits to that idea, because it still has to include STARS. So we have a police station thats supposedly just a skeleton crew, but they also have a ton of money dedicated to this weird team. Well also must consider that when this movie switch gears to "zombie carnage" mode it's not very satisfying because everything is more or less in ruin. Honestly if the movie committed to the tone it set in the first half It would be great, but it switches to an action movie and it's just not equipped to do that. As for Leon, the thing is Jack Burton is actually likeable from start to end. Leon is totally unlikable, and his transformation just feels contrived. I will grant that there really just wasn't enough time to give him a satisfying arc, but that just makes me think it would have been better just make him more like game. Maybe the 45 mins makes it better, but that's a what if. Frankly there is a lot to like from this movie, but the whole second half just leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
My main gripe with this movie that they crammed to games into one and while happening at once. Therefore it affected other things as pacing, characterizations, setup and so on.
I liked WRC more than any of the Anderson movies. It wasn't great. I couldn't care less about the characters being changed and it was neat seeing the mansion. Again, it was pretty low tier but Jesus, i cant stand the other live action movies
The only thing i really didn't like about WTRC. Is how they portrayed Wesker. And that they made RC a small town instead of an actual city. Other than that having just played 1 - 3 this past week. I decided to watch this again. And i gotta say its pretty accurate for the most part.
I viewed this film recently again.. There are very , very , small nuggets of a good film in this , that are totally lost in translation unfortunately.. Example. When the female zombie gets hit by truck 🚒 ,and gets up , walks off back into the forest.. Everything about that scene was perfect.. Practical make up effects..the atmosphere, the editing.. the cinematography.. The fact that in the darkness off in the distance of the forest, Claire can see something, she can't quite make it out and neither can we as an audience, as the zombie is staring back at her.. That was creepy AF.. I dare you to go in the woods to investigate.. So Roberts can direct a good scene.. It's a shame , because it is like you stated,a good looking film, love the warm color palettes 🎨 of the film.. It feels very lived in.. The Diner , STARS office , the mansion looked great , going up the stairs and through hallways , all of the decor of the environment and set design , made me feel like I was in the Spencer mansion.. Until it wasn't anymore😅😂.. What kills this film is definitely the Screenplay.. Loved Donald Logue as Chief Irons, hands down the best part of the film.. Next to the Birkin mutation.. 😢 Trivia time , Donald Logue played the vampire Quinn in the 1st Blade film , and he was great in that as well..
@@emptyblank099a the fuck are you on about? This was never a remake. This was a failed attempt at a resident evil movie based off the series and not Paul WS Anderson's advertisements of his wife.
@@ih8theantichristagain it was supposed to be like the games when at the same time have the movie be it’s own thing and this is something that you idiots don’t understand they can’t do that with a movie they can’t make a copy and paste I guess according to you the Harry Potter movies are trash according to your own logic what a terrible argument that you guys have for welcome to raccoon city lol
Honestly James Wan is a really smart pick for one of these. He did Fast and Furious 7 which is the best action movie in that franchise, so I absolutely trust him to nail the bombastic action and insanity of Resident Evil, but he's also a really well established horror director so I also really trust him in that aspect. It'd be a miracle if they actually got him to do it though lol
@@GhoulCityOfflineLMFAO James wan a smart pick I’m so glad that capcom hired Jonathan Roberts now cause James wan is the guy that made that terrible dragonball evolution movie back in 2009
@@BrickZOfTheDeadJames wan literally ruined the dragonball franchise back in 2009 with dragonball evolution he literally is just overhyped by idiot people like you you see Jonathan Roberts was chosen because he is a massive fan of resident evil and cares about the resident evil franchise James wan is a terrible director
It’s not a great film, but many like the original films, I consider it the same (the big issue is Constantin Film holding the rights, which they to me let anyone take a halfassed crack at it, rather than giving actual people who would do it justice a wack at it).
@@Fade2Darkya and then the overley entitled Paul Anderson fans ended up hating on welcome to raccoon city because they actually miss Paul Anderson’s movies there fucking people that need their teeth knocked out of their face
@@adamsmoberlypeople that liked the Paul Anderson resident evil movies are fake fans and the people that liked welcome to raccoon city are real fans of resident evil
@@TheKryptonianSaiyan But Robbie Amell looking like a Chris Redfield Cosplayer is Okay????? He was the only one who looked like the character he was supposed to be. I don't have a problem with the actor who portrayed Leon, just the writing for a badass character who is now useless for pretty much the entire movie. Which is not how he was in the RE2.
I remember a week before this movie came, at IGN Facebook comment section (How coincidence is IGN), a dude already act incel make comment "whoever hate this movie GO to hell!!" so I just give him "go ask your mom watching this movie and what she think", the incel give back "go ask your mom!", I don't know he is getting paid or hater of haters, which one have more dignity.
Honestly, I think Raccoon City is more like a character in and of itself. Design-wise and visually, I think its more like a large town that is bordering into a small city size. My ideal example of this would be Charleston, West Virginia. Personally drove through that place on a trip up to Ohio and the resemblance was pretty accurate; small city with a modestly sized downtown area immediately surround on all sides by hills/forests and a river.
@@waldosanchez9627 I've got another channel that I run on youtube, CARRIER: A Raccoon City Story, thats a mashup of Max Payne style film-noir detective stuff set in Raccoon City pre-viral outbreak in the winter of 1995. Its an animated graphic novel and for a few scenes that show the city I used images of Charleston, WV as the basis.
You nailed it. RC IS a character. I see it more of an amalgamation of a few different cities but for me the ideal aesthetic for RC would be Pottsville, PA.
I can only see a streaming show probably doing this franchise more justice and not Netflix . I would’ve stuck to the mansion incident and then post credit having the hint towards raccoon city. It would’ve been better than what we’ve got hopefully.
They should make Resident Evil 0 a 3 to 3-1/2 hour long movie. And then continuing the rest of the series as TV show. Where imo they would obviously have to start things off. With season 1 being based entirely on RE1. I mean they could have the first episode start off introducing all the main characters and RC. Kind of like the beginning of WTRC. But once they head to the mansion. Make it as faithful to game as possible. Then for season 2 since RE2 and RE3 take palce at the same time. They could bounce back and forth between Leon/ Claire and Jill/ Carlos's stories. Season 3 would be Code Veronica Season 4 would be well RE4 Season 5 would be revalations. Season 6 would be RE5 And then season 7 would be RE6 And i'm thinking for RE7 and RE8 since RE9 is supposedly suposed to close out the winters storyline. Those three could be like a spin off or something.
When I first watched Welcome to Racoon City (Huge fan of RE mind you) I didn't think it was so bad.. then I watched it two more times and I fucking hated it.. there was a decent concept there.. but it was trying to blend two games.. They should of just did RE 1 or RE2. They did my boy and girl dirty.
The Anderson movies are fine as stand alone not for the fans action flicks. They did a far better job than Welcome to Racoon which was theoretically following the games template. The sad thing was even that was good compared to the tv show. At least we have the CGI movies.
I actually really liked welcome to Racoon City, I saw it in a dark empty theater with no one else there and loved it! Don't care for the casting choice of Kennedy or Valentine but this movie felt the most like an actual Resident evil movie....
It was good that they attempted to stay faithful to the games. But its was a really bad movie.... Not enjoyable to watch at all. I just felt it was one long attempt at saying to fans "see! this is from the game!" and yet fails to be a good movie. The best movie was the first RE movie, its works very well. The second was ok, or tolerable. But the rest just suck.
Not a fan of WtRC, but no resident evil movie is going to be as insultingly horrible as The Final Chapter. I legit hate that movie and everything about it. Kill everyone off screen, make wesker a bitch, turn issaacs into a religious nut for no reason, retcon the whole second movie with angela and her father, pointless deaths….literally every minute of the movie sucks
Crazy...its locations in the movie were near identical...its problem was trying to fit multiple games and its own spin in one movie...should have just concentrated on the mansion first...and you could have gotten yourself a sequel or 2 by doing 2 and 3 separate or simultaneously...somehow they made even chief irons likeable by casting the dad from Grounded for Life...casting all over was a joke from leon to Jill....chris and Claire were the only logical choices...and what sucks the most is this is the closest they will adapt the series to its original source...and after the credits roll...you still see Paul andersons name attached...a big middle finger
I think it’s funny this is supposed to be a mashup of one and two and actually only has comparisons to 1.5. Leon is already a cop at RPD and Claire almost seems detached from her actual character, she could be Elza Walker. When I saw Kaya Scodelario was going to be Claire, I was so happy. I saw her in Crawl, where she really proved she could be a final girl, bad ass, but I also wanted to see how she’d be in a caring big sister kind of way (Claire to me is the most unique character in the RE games, because she can be cheerful and upbeat in stressful situations and I actually really love that characterization), to only see her be bland and her and Chris being assholes to each other (that really pisses me off, because I hate that nor did it need to be in the film; Claire and Chris care for each other and that irked me so much). But Avan Jogia as Leon? I was confused even when I saw that on the poster. He’s mostly done comedies and was a Nickelodeon kid star (he was also in Zombieland 2, which I really felt he was kind of bland in that film as well), so trying to make him a leading guy with charisma just felt off…and I was right when they made him into a doofus. I don’t mind characters like that, but not this way. Jill and Chris were bland action heroes, Wesker and Irons were kind of villains with no reason to be, and Birkin was played by a guy who won’t kiss other actors on screen (due to faith) and I recall these RUclipsrs who were reacting to a film he was in (I know Who Killed Me, I think) cussing and they said it sounded so unnatural from his delivery, like he never actually cusses in real life (which isn’t a bad thing), but Birkin to me has no morals (or he puts them aside, prioritizing his job over them) …so why hire an actor who definitely doesn’t play a part like that well? I don’t hate the film, I just consider it like the other live action RE films (Degeneration to me seems like the only film anywhere close to being an actual RE film). What needs to happen is get the RE film rights away from Constantin Film and let someone else have them. Resident Evil is Aliens meets Jurassic Park, with a little zombie horror, not Walking Dead meets The Expendables. And let’s also be honest, Capcom nowadays isn’t invested in Resident Evil being Resident Evil. 7 & 8 aren’t bad games, but it’s obvious they want that Outlast type of game, and that’s ok, but they don’t come off as Resident Evil to me (5 & 6 are also like that, but do feel related to the original games). And I think RE 2 & 3’s remakes were under minded by making them fast, because 4 felt way more polished than 2 & 3’s. I honestly wish I could help make Resident Evil it’s own franchise work talking about (The RECU if you will), with a AHS type show that maybe works on the smaller games as a season and other original stories, while relating them to a film series). Maybe Disney should acquire them (I know Disney is sucking right now, because they can’t just calm down on making shit, but I think with Resident Evil not being their bread and butter, they would be able to funnel in money, but not rush the projects out, but have a big budget to hire people who know what they are doing).
I’m sorry but I’ll take “self insert protag with lore ignored but entertaining” over “no self insert protag and lore slightly more appreciated but boring” any day of the week.
A city of 100,000 people would probably have 60-100 police including at least 8-12 SWAT qualified. They likely wouldn't have a full time aviation unit with a helicopter. They likely wouldn't have a dozen police dogs, perhaps 4 dogs max. A city of 15,000 people might have 12 cops total including the chief and 2 or 3 patrol officers with SWAT qualifications and possibly one or two patrol officers with sniper qualifications for SWAT call out, if they even had any such SWAT qualified officers. Raccoon City being a small dump and having a full time SWAT team sort of doesn't make sense.
I hated this when it came out but just rewatched it with my mum and sister, the film gets bored of itself 2 3rds in but i thought it was dumb fun. Im a huge fan of the games so i know ill always have them.
I thought this movie was garbage. The locations and set designs were really good but the rest was not good imo. Leon was such an idiot and everyone else was just idk wtf
11:20 The reason why they crammed 1&2 together is that the remake of RE2 was very successful (hence why they took all the visual cues they could from it) and it made sense to adapt it into a movie and they also wanted to reboot the series after the final chapter of Anderson's crappy epic...the only problem is that you cannot have RE2 without RE1 but they didn't feel like making two movies. The budget cuts also affected the cinematography of the movie - the DP was Maxime Alexandre, the same guy who shoots all of Alexandre Aja's movies (including his remake of "The Hills Have Eyes"), which tend to be very stylish, as well as flicks like "The Nun" (which is has some very cool visuals as well). Hell, he had already worked on a videogame adaptation by shooting "Silent Hill: Revelation", which looked pretty good. "Welcome to Raccoon City" doesn't even look half as good as any of the movies the man shot in the past 20 years (and most of them were made for less than 25 million dollars). It's pretty evident they cut a lot of corners in terms of set design, lighting and even color grading (movies are 99% shot digitally nowadays, but Welcome feels very video-ish and cheap, like they slapped a REC709 LUT on the footage and hastily tweaked it).
I'd argue that you could just jump straight into RE2 if they wanted to capitalize on RE2 remake that bad. It stands pretty well apart from RE 1's story, and general audiences would not have cared either way. Again the duel scenario probably would have worked better with the original budget, but I guess we'll never know.
@@FraudDepartmentYT In a game, yes - the first game I played in the series was OG RE2 and the nods to RE1 only gave the narration more scope: I didn’t feel like I was missing anything. But that was a game. In a movie, referencing another story we never see wouldn’t make sense (especially since in a film it would be referenced more frequently than in the game). So, they needed RE1 in one form or the other.
@@thermonuclearcollider4418Movies reference events that aren’t directly shown all the time. No story exists in a vacuum. Re2 would have worked fine as a standalone movie. Nothing about it requires you to have knowledge on Re1.
@ care to provide an example? Especially one where a very important plot point (Claire looking for Chris) references something that is never shown? Throwaway lines that help world building (like Snake Plissken flying to Leningrad in “Escape from New York”) don’t count - they are supposed to be vague.
@@thermonuclearcollider4418 I mean that just sounds like every horror movie with a missing sibling setup plot, ever…. The first one that comes to mind is The Forest. The sister does show up, but we never really see what her experience in the Forest was like, or how she got stranded there, as far as I can remember. The Skull Island movie also had mention of how one of the people they found had originally been stranded there with a Japanese pilot as a sort of “Hell in the Pacific” situation, and even though their experience on the island could have likely been its own movie, we never actually saw it. Nobody would have an issue with not directly seeing Chris’s full experience in the mansion as long as she finds enough to clues to serve as setup for a prequel or sequel. Re2’s plot is not dependent on the existence of an Re1, and Claire could have easily just been a random girl who just happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time, with no connection to Chris whatsoever.
the overbudgeting of the stars team makes a lot of sense when you look at actual US police budgets. My small town police chief literally had a replica of the iron throne made for himself with the department budget so...
This movie is terrible, its like they saw all the hate the Anderson films got and were like "we can top that" Claire looks older than Chris and doesn't have her iconic ponytail Leon looks like Carlos Oliviera and is portrayed as an idiot that nobody wants to exist Jill is another victim of the nonsensical race swapping garbage and has a crush on Wesker for no reason Wesker is absolutely nothing like himself in the games and doesn't get his shades until the credits Lisa Trevor (a monster) is somehow the worst implamented somehow Mixing RE1 and 2 just doesn't work. Terrible film
I genuinely loved this movie. It's probably the best RE movie made. Not perfect by any means, would have preferred if Jill and Leon looked more accurate to the games, but in the end it was still a fun flick. Felt like a late 90s/ early 2000s movie.
I really liked Welcome To Racoon City. At least its mostly accurate to the games. Or at the very least you know for a fact that you are watching Resident Evil.
ITS BEEN 3 YEARS??? also this movie is absolute garbage aside from set design idk who thought mixing 2, 7+ hour stories into an hour and a half plus aside from birking the casting is godawful in all fronts
For me when I hear resident evil movie I think of Degeneration all the time. But I do like Welcome to Raccoon City the second best of the live action resident evil movies.
i hate that the put the story of re1 with re2 when they happened on different days. the events of re1 happened few days before the events of re2, and to be little more nitpicky. the events of re3 happened before 2. at least up til the clock tower.
I was optimistic even with the questionable casting choices(Wesker and Leon); got to the diner scene and turned it right tf off. Its bad enough with the whole Redfield/Birking/Lisa Trevor forced connection, but butchering the characterization of arguably the 2 most reliable protagonists in the series was too much....i have no intention of ever watching WTRC in its entirety...
Honestly it should have been a Resident Evil Outbreak prequel. That would have worked. You can’t make a good mainline RE movie without a MASSIVE budget
to help set the scope i work for a small town south of boston population under 10,000 we have 10 cops 3 part timers ….3 sgt’s and 1 deputy cheif and chief … raccoon city is prob the size of the city of let’s say brockton .. coming from a police officer point of view
Here's a thread that I used as a jumping off point. There is no definitive old draft that points to the movie being better, but there is a lot of bits of evidence that this movie was originally more ambitious. Again like I said in the video take it with a grain of salt that this movie would have been saved if not for studio interference. residentevil.org/threads/resident-evil-welcome-to-raccoon-city-2021-original-scripts-and-deleted-scenes.13214/
@Tuomas85 Same, liked the first 1. Loved the second because of accurate recreations of Raccoon City fighting back against the zombies. Hated the second half 😬 Fist fight against Nemesis!?!? BS
Resident Evil (2002) Movie is way better. To prefer Welcome to Raccoon City is not only an error of taste, but also a complete misunderstanding of the saga.
i will give it the nod over the anerson films in terms of trying to nail the aesthetic of RE. Some moments work but the list of what works is much shorter than what doesn't. Its a shame. RE has the basis for a good movie (Haunted house sci-fi horrror) but for whatever reasons no one can get it right.
Video was recommended me by RUclips: While I'm kinda getting tired of a RUclipsr cynically swearing himself through the video because I think, this one here is well made enough to stand on it's own, this was a good watch. Especially if you count in that this movie is almost and already forgotten by the majority like the Netflix-Series. I do think WTRC seems to have some kinda fanbase? I often see praise for the movie and see also positive commentaries here. I hated the movie the first time I've watched it and hated it even more when I showed it to another RE fan. This is one is worse than the Anderson movies. The movies of Paul Anderson are nothing more than generic Sci-Fi Action-Movies with the Resident Evil license slapped on it. Like in the video mentioned, if you don't expect anything you get, at the best, a few solid action movies out of it with a few stinker. WTRC, on the other hand, is on the same level as the new Like a Dragon adaption on Amazon. It's using the games as an alibi to create original story arcs and own interpretations of iconic characters. And then the producers behind this garbage thinks everything will be great if you build in actual material from the source material. It does not work, it will never work. WTRC and Like a Dragon might stick way closer to the games visually, but they fail on every other level. Constantin Film picked up the license from Capcom when no other studio, not even Miramax, was willing to produce Resident Evil movies. They made an absurd amount of money with the two trilogies. So it's no wonder Capcom stick to them. I don't know how long this license deal goes but this can, technically speaking, go on forever. If they have an agreement with Capcom that it is enough to put out a movie or series every few years to renew the license, then these rights will stick to Constantin Film. But they made a loss with the Monster Hunter movie and WTRC and the Netflix series were critically and comercially flops. Really excited where this is going with Constantin Film and Capcom. Cheers!
The film shouldnt have been 3 games. Period. Too many characters. Too many plotlines to juggle. I remember hearing the casting WELL before shooting started and it was obvious they were mixing 1 and 2. Even if the Roberts got his full budget then what? A 3+ hour film with slightly better CGI??? It was hubris. RE would make a better seasonal series. Like the second season of Stranger Things has the feeling and atmosphere of an RE game. Constantin simply doesnt want to pay for a writer that can balance the game material with writing believable and grounded world building.
This film came out the month of my 34th birthday. My childhood friends and I decided to go see it as part of my birthday celebrations and we had a blast. Is it a dumb horror film? Yes. But when you scrutinise the lore of the games, would it ever have been anything else? I doubt it 😂
I liked it. Been a big fan of RE since the original RE2 released and I played it at my friend’s house. I immediately went out and rented a Playstation and RE1 from Blockbuster (I had an N64). I got RE2 on N64 when that released and played the crap out of it. I played every RE game including offshoots through RE5, which I didn’t like and didn’t finish. So I consider myself an RE oldhead. And I liked it. It’s not perfect and it would’ve been better choosing one game instead of smashing the two together, but I thought it was an enjoyable if flawed movie. I even watched it a second time to see if I’d still like it and I did. I honestly don’t get the complaints about Leon. He wasn’t some fantastically fleshed out character in RE2. He was a little bland because it was a PS1 game ported from Japan. That game was pretty melodramatic. And in RE4, he was a wise cracking 90s style action hero. I think people project this image of Leon onto him that isn’t accurate. Because I did, too, but going back and playing RE2 and RE4 years later, I realized that the way I remembered Leon wasn’t really the way he was depicted. So I thought Leon in this movie was fine. He felt relatable and not just a Tom Cruise character analogue.
I think people's point about Leon is that in the game, despite being a rookie he was capable of handling the situation, whereas in WTRC he was essentially useless and mostly did nothing.
@@atomic747dude are you fucking retarded or just trolling welcome to raccoon city made the resident evil characters likable in live action Paul Anderson ruined it
@@atomic747correction: people that like welcome to raccoon city have good judgment the people that liked Paul Anderson resident evil films have no form of commen sense
I more or less dig this movie. But I liked the action monster movie Alice series too. As a long time fan since playing the first game back when I was a kid when it first came out, I would obviosuly love a RE movie set in the Spencer Mansion that's full of slow burn growing terror, I've enjoyed all of the films for what they are.
The reason why he chose the actor he said that he saw every single actor for the role of Leon and he even stated that there was actors that came in and dressed & looked identical to Leon with the hair going down and he said that ya so visually they would have been a good Leon but he thought to himself hey wait I’m not doing like a cosplay type of thing cause then you just have the games on screen
I gotta say - pretty great re-creations of the game locations...
I loved the RPD Building, but I was underwhelmed by the Spencer Mansion (but mostly because that should be a set for the most part, to make it look unrealistic).
They turned Leon into a bumbling buffoon. That alone is unforgivable.
One of THE coolest characters in fiction, who perfectly mixes in humor, reduced to that. Doesn't look like him in the slightest too. I thought it was supposed to be Carlos lmao
Fair, they tried so hard to make everyone fit in the narrative there was a ton of character assassination. TBH had they just done a escape room with zombies with just Jill, Chris, Barry and Wesker it would be way more faihful . . I love clarie and Leon but srsly it's okay to produce a first movie without them considering the mansion incident occurred at least two weeks before the fall of raccoon city.
@@grumpykitten3683 I think mixing 2 and 3 instead would have been better of that HAD to mix any. Since they both happen pretty much at the same time. Mixing in 1 feels wrong
@@arrownaut %100 percent agree, plus the events of RE 1 could easily be explained in flashbacks
@@grumpykitten3683 That would definitely work.
No Barry… but had the audacity to put a Jill Sandwich joke in.
Legitimately forgot this movie existed
Because it was so trash 🗑️
I wish I had that ability bc this move is trash
I did too😂. Such a dumpster 🔥. How the portrayed Leon was criminal 😅
@@NemesisBeastyou’re comment is trash Paul Anderson fanboy
@@TheKryptonianSaiyanbro stop it. This movie is non canon it's so bad
As long as no one starts randomly punching boulders I'm good I guess 😂
Give them time 😉
Lmao yeah it'll be here before ya know it.
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If Johannes was given the greenlight for the sequel, he was gonna make it a mix of Code Veronica and RE4 with the inclusion of Chris punching the boulder from RE5. Robbie Amell said he was looking forward to filming that scene.
@@sascha495I actually liked the stupid over the top action in the games. I hated the too serious tone of the games. Tbh I came in on OG re 4 because I hated tank controls and weird camera angles.
I liked it. It was a lot better than the older RE movies. It's problem was trying to force two games into one movie. They should've stuck with the first game as the focus of the movie. Also, I think they were trying so hard to get away from those garbage Anderson movies that they cut back on quality.
the anderson movies were actually entertaining. This looks like garbage and made by people who also didn't play the games.
I didn't like the Anderson films either I actually have a inside joke with my friends in regards to the series. BUT I've tried to watch welcome to raccoon City three times now and I fallen asleep each time. I'm glad you liked it but I'm having a hard time understanding what you did like about it.
@@atomic747go fuck yourself biased Paul Anderson fanboy this movie was made for real resident evil fans the Paul Anderson resident evil movies were for fake fans like you
@@atomic747the Anderson resident evil movies were terrible there was nothing entertaining about those trashy movies
The thing that I would have done differently is combine resident evil 0 & resident evil 1 storylines and then I would have saved resident evil 2 & resident evil 3’s storylines for the sequel
I remember getting out of work early by chance and deciding to just see this the day before thanksgiving. Can’t believe it’s been three years already.
I still say Leon look more like Carlos
I hate how they made Raccoon City into a small town. It never could've captured the vibe of sheer large scale urban destruction and chaos that RE2 and RE3 had.
Smaller budget and it was filmed during a pandemic.
@@cookeris womp womp
I keep saying they should just make a Residing Evil series. That would give it more time to flesh out big things from the games like Claire and Shirley.
How can they not make the story of Resident Evil 1 properly!? Its written for them like a movie!!!
They need to just make RE a TV show. That way they can actually do a proper retelling of the series.
Season one could either be just RE1 or a mix of both RE0 and RE1. and season 2 could be both 2 and 3.
And from there on since each game tends to be years apart. Each season could probably be just one game. Season 3 could be Code Veronica season 4 would obviously be RE4 and so on.
TV just works so much better than a movie. Since shows have way more time to flesh out the story.
@barbarapick1722 Genius idea 5 episodes for season 1 in the Spencer Mansion.
Once I saw the casting for Leon, I knew this movie was doomed.
The problem is to come along and say “We're going to make a faithful adaptation” and, at the same time, not understand anything about Wesker, Umbrella and the Tryant project. The original concepts seemed to have a better grasp of the game. But we had the worst idea in the world: to merge the first 3 games.
Honestly even calling this a "fan-film" would be insulting to actual fan films
Can't believe I paid to watch this in theaters. Same quality as a mad tv skit but it was a whole ass movie
Thanks for reminding me about the RE netflix show. Very similar to cannibal holo****t in terms of viewing experience
This movie was at least better than that
I’m sorry to say, but I hope this reboot stays dead. It’s seriously fanfiction quality that makes the first two Paul Anderson films worthy as an adaptation.
The scope of the setting was absolutely off putting presenting it as a derelict small town. Seeing the big rig crash overhead was awful because it nearly goes through the “city” in one shot.
Raccoon City’s fall was captured immensely better in *Apocalypse* and it didn’t even use any iconic locations. It captured a full cityscape from the suburbs, skyscrapers, overpasse, and the city hall. Also depicting Umbrella as a tangible force, so we got to see their response to the outbreak.
Collapsing the “city” and the shot of Tall Oaks was absolutely abysmal. They just botched the most beloved and revered setting in the entire franchise and they thought revealing a less favored setting was going to be a surprise.
Let alone the pacing and plot advancement, mischaracterization, and total misunderstanding of the levity of the story. They couldn’t even live up to the title ffs. 🤦
P.S. whatever they had planned with Ada as Wesker’s savior, send that straight to the trash!
Awful film, not even worth a rewatch.
I’m pretty sure that you’re late on the news Paul Anderson fanboy but welcome to raccoon city has been confirmed to have a sequel in the works
@@TheKryptonianSaiyan Biggest mistake ever!!!!!!!!!!! Fan of the GAMES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Some fair points. I think you missed the fact that the city was becoming a ghost town even without the outbreak occuring. The police station was closing and only the skeleton crew was left; a plot device taken directly from Assault on Precinct 13. Johannes Roberts effectively mirrors the style of John Carpenter; and WTRC is as if Carpenter made his own Resident Evil movie. Half the movie is taken from Assault on Precinct 13. Most of the mood and atmosphere is lifted from The Fog. Johannes also purposefully made Leon have an arc from fuck-up to hero. He starts off as Jack Burton from Big Trouble in Little China, then grows into Napolean Wilson from Assault on Precinct 13 and ends up as RJ MacReady from The Thing. A lot of this was cut from the theatrical release. A lot in general was cut. I believe 45 minutes was cut out and I hope that some day we will get the "director's cut" of the movie.
Yeah, it has really bad CGI, the two scenes with the licensed songs are disjointed and would have been better with dreary scores, nobody seems to notice that it's purposefully full of humor, and the editing around missing footage really becomes noticeable. Also, I agree that Constantin Films is atrocious.
I still give it an 8/10 and put it on every once in a while. I know many people don't like it and I'm not gonna change any minds, but I still try to fairly defend the movie.
My problem with the ghost town aspect is that the movie only half way commits to that idea, because it still has to include STARS. So we have a police station thats supposedly just a skeleton crew, but they also have a ton of money dedicated to this weird team.
Well also must consider that when this movie switch gears to "zombie carnage" mode it's not very satisfying because everything is more or less in ruin.
Honestly if the movie committed to the tone it set in the first half It would be great, but it switches to an action movie and it's just not equipped to do that.
As for Leon, the thing is Jack Burton is actually likeable from start to end. Leon is totally unlikable, and his transformation just feels contrived. I will grant that there really just wasn't enough time to give him a satisfying arc, but that just makes me think it would have been better just make him more like game.
Maybe the 45 mins makes it better, but that's a what if. Frankly there is a lot to like from this movie, but the whole second half just leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
My main gripe with this movie that they crammed to games into one and while happening at once. Therefore it affected other things as pacing, characterizations, setup and so on.
And also as a result the events of RE3 are just ignored entirely.
And they also have moment in there taken from Code Veronica. With the Ashford twins.
@@barbarapick1722 I had totally forgotten about that!
That kitty's interjection is perfect. They know this movie is bad.
Just give ME ten million dollars, a set, four actors and a camera and I can make a great miniseries or movie that’ll make people proud of RE.
I rewatched It and ... Its WORST than I remembered
I liked WRC more than any of the Anderson movies. It wasn't great. I couldn't care less about the characters being changed and it was neat seeing the mansion. Again, it was pretty low tier but Jesus, i cant stand the other live action movies
The only thing i really didn't like about WTRC. Is how they portrayed Wesker. And that they made RC a small town instead of an actual city.
Other than that having just played 1 - 3 this past week. I decided to watch this again. And i gotta say its pretty accurate for the most part.
I viewed this film recently again.. There are very , very , small nuggets of a good film in this , that are totally lost in translation unfortunately..
Example.
When the female zombie gets hit by truck 🚒 ,and gets up , walks off back into the forest.. Everything about that scene was perfect.. Practical make up effects..the atmosphere, the editing.. the cinematography.. The fact that in the darkness off in the distance of the forest, Claire can see something, she can't quite make it out and neither can we as an audience, as the zombie is staring back at her.. That was creepy AF.. I dare you to go in the woods to investigate..
So Roberts can direct a good scene..
It's a shame , because it is like you stated,a good looking film, love the warm color palettes 🎨 of the film.. It feels very lived in.. The Diner , STARS office , the mansion looked great , going up the stairs and through hallways , all of the decor of the environment and set design , made me feel like I was in the Spencer mansion.. Until it wasn't anymore😅😂..
What kills this film is definitely the Screenplay..
Loved Donald Logue as Chief Irons, hands down the best part of the film.. Next to the Birkin mutation.. 😢
Trivia time , Donald Logue played the vampire Quinn in the 1st Blade film , and he was great in that as well..
This movie was terrible, so many memberberries and not enough substance.
They managed to make the first three games boring, incredible.
Memberberries? Its a remake what else do you expect.
@@emptyblank099a are they trying to remake Paul Anderson's movie? then they failed so hard
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@@emptyblank099a the fuck are you on about? This was never a remake. This was a failed attempt at a resident evil movie based off the series and not Paul WS Anderson's advertisements of his wife.
@@ih8theantichristagain it was supposed to be like the games when at the same time have the movie be it’s own thing and this is something that you idiots don’t understand they can’t do that with a movie they can’t make a copy and paste I guess according to you the Harry Potter movies are trash according to your own logic what a terrible argument that you guys have for welcome to raccoon city lol
The only thing i remembered about this movie is Leon is played by Beck Oliver out of all people🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I would love to see a remake directed by James Wan. We need a reboot of this amazing franchise!
Honestly James Wan is a really smart pick for one of these. He did Fast and Furious 7 which is the best action movie in that franchise, so I absolutely trust him to nail the bombastic action and insanity of Resident Evil, but he's also a really well established horror director so I also really trust him in that aspect. It'd be a miracle if they actually got him to do it though lol
@@GhoulCityOffline Right! You get the best of both worlds. Horror and action. Constantine film is just ruining that Resident Evil franchise.
@@GhoulCityOfflineLMFAO James wan a smart pick I’m so glad that capcom hired Jonathan Roberts now cause James wan is the guy that made that terrible dragonball evolution movie back in 2009
@@BrickZOfTheDeadJames wan literally ruined the dragonball franchise back in 2009 with dragonball evolution he literally is just overhyped by idiot people like you you see Jonathan Roberts was chosen because he is a massive fan of resident evil and cares about the resident evil franchise James wan is a terrible director
@TheKryptonianSaiyan that was James Wong
I remember this getting so much hype on social media when it started filming
12:16 absolute last thing I was expecting to see in this video was Fesh Pince 😂😂 well done
I loved this movie it was so much fun but I totally understand how die hard fans wanted something more serious
It’s not accurate at all and the choice for characters being butchered is the problem
It’s not a great film, but many like the original films, I consider it the same (the big issue is Constantin Film holding the rights, which they to me let anyone take a halfassed crack at it, rather than giving actual people who would do it justice a wack at it).
I’m with you. I enjoyed this movie.
@@Fade2Darkya and then the overley entitled Paul Anderson fans ended up hating on welcome to raccoon city because they actually miss Paul Anderson’s movies there fucking people that need their teeth knocked out of their face
@@adamsmoberlypeople that liked the Paul Anderson resident evil movies are fake fans and the people that liked welcome to raccoon city are real fans of resident evil
this movie sucked but damn I forgot how good the RE4R shooting range bonus mix was
Good video keep up the good work
When they made Leon into a poojeet
and Jill is black lol... dude doesn't mention it, most comments don't mention it. Your replacement is perfectly fine with normies.
Why was Leon race swap and a wimp?
they don't have enough budget so they have to combine 3 character into one, Leon + Carlos + whichever wimp guy
The director said that he didn’t want it to look like an actor cosplaying as Leon that’s why
@@TheKryptonianSaiyan But Robbie Amell looking like a Chris Redfield Cosplayer is Okay????? He was the only one who looked like the character he was supposed to be. I don't have a problem with the actor who portrayed Leon, just the writing for a badass character who is now useless for pretty much the entire movie. Which is not how he was in the RE2.
While I don't believe the movie was the best, I think that if the director had the opportunity to make a sequel, it could be significantly improved.
WTRC was meant to get everything out of the way so they could make a Resident Evil 4 adaptation as a sequel.
They should hire me to make a resident evil series fr
I remember a week before this movie came, at IGN Facebook comment section (How coincidence is IGN), a dude already act incel make comment "whoever hate this movie GO to hell!!"
so I just give him "go ask your mom watching this movie and what she think", the incel give back "go ask your mom!", I don't know he is getting paid or hater of haters, which one have more dignity.
This comment sounds like it should be in reddit.
Incel huh kinda like the people hating on this film aka Paul Anderson fans
You know slam dunking a airplane isn’t that far off from punching literal boulders 😂
Uh...well I think you got me there!
Honestly, I think Raccoon City is more like a character in and of itself. Design-wise and visually, I think its more like a large town that is bordering into a small city size. My ideal example of this would be Charleston, West Virginia. Personally drove through that place on a trip up to Ohio and the resemblance was pretty accurate; small city with a modestly sized downtown area immediately surround on all sides by hills/forests and a river.
That’s a really good comparison tbh
@@waldosanchez9627 I've got another channel that I run on youtube, CARRIER: A Raccoon City Story, thats a mashup of Max Payne style film-noir detective stuff set in Raccoon City pre-viral outbreak in the winter of 1995. Its an animated graphic novel and for a few scenes that show the city I used images of Charleston, WV as the basis.
Oh wow dude thanks for watching, I'm actually a big fan of Carrier!
@@FraudDepartmentYT dude I absolutely LOVED your Max Payne video you did too about the movie. Really great stuff 😎🤙
You nailed it. RC IS a character. I see it more of an amalgamation of a few different cities but for me the ideal aesthetic for RC would be Pottsville, PA.
I can only see a streaming show probably doing this franchise more justice and not Netflix . I would’ve stuck to the mansion incident and then post credit having the hint towards raccoon city. It would’ve been better than what we’ve got hopefully.
They should make Resident Evil 0 a 3 to 3-1/2 hour long movie. And then continuing the rest of the series as TV show.
Where imo they would obviously have to start things off. With season 1 being based entirely on RE1.
I mean they could have the first episode start off introducing all the main characters and RC. Kind of like the beginning of WTRC. But once they head to the mansion. Make it as faithful to game as possible.
Then for season 2 since RE2 and RE3 take palce at the same time. They could bounce back and forth between Leon/ Claire and Jill/ Carlos's stories.
Season 3 would be Code Veronica
Season 4 would be well RE4
Season 5 would be revalations.
Season 6 would be RE5
And then season 7 would be RE6
And i'm thinking for RE7 and RE8 since RE9 is supposedly suposed to close out the winters storyline. Those three could be like a spin off or something.
When I first watched Welcome to Racoon City (Huge fan of RE mind you) I didn't think it was so bad.. then I watched it two more times and I fucking hated it.. there was a decent concept there.. but it was trying to blend two games.. They should of just did RE 1 or RE2. They did my boy and girl dirty.
You are so right, I thought the same on my first viewing though.
Out of all the Live Action Resident Evil movies, Welcome to Raccoon City’s the only RE Movie where it’s actually based on the games.
"based on the games" if the games were not anything like the games... aside from the locations...
Great conclusion to the video...
The Anderson movies are fine as stand alone not for the fans action flicks. They did a far better job than Welcome to Racoon which was theoretically following the games template. The sad thing was even that was good compared to the tv show. At least we have the CGI movies.
I actually really liked welcome to Racoon City, I saw it in a dark empty theater with no one else there and loved it! Don't care for the casting choice of Kennedy or Valentine but this movie felt the most like an actual Resident evil movie....
They took 2 of the most fam favorite characters and completely made them the worst
It was good that they attempted to stay faithful to the games. But its was a really bad movie.... Not enjoyable to watch at all. I just felt it was one long attempt at saying to fans "see! this is from the game!" and yet fails to be a good movie. The best movie was the first RE movie, its works very well. The second was ok, or tolerable. But the rest just suck.
It's been 3 years already? damn :D
I didn't know Leon was middle eastern 😂
save re from constantin films
Not a fan of WtRC, but no resident evil movie is going to be as insultingly horrible as The Final Chapter. I legit hate that movie and everything about it. Kill everyone off screen, make wesker a bitch, turn issaacs into a religious nut for no reason, retcon the whole second movie with angela and her father, pointless deaths….literally every minute of the movie sucks
Crazy...its locations in the movie were near identical...its problem was trying to fit multiple games and its own spin in one movie...should have just concentrated on the mansion first...and you could have gotten yourself a sequel or 2 by doing 2 and 3 separate or simultaneously...somehow they made even chief irons likeable by casting the dad from Grounded for Life...casting all over was a joke from leon to Jill....chris and Claire were the only logical choices...and what sucks the most is this is the closest they will adapt the series to its original source...and after the credits roll...you still see Paul andersons name attached...a big middle finger
I think it’s funny this is supposed to be a mashup of one and two and actually only has comparisons to 1.5. Leon is already a cop at RPD and Claire almost seems detached from her actual character, she could be Elza Walker. When I saw Kaya Scodelario was going to be Claire, I was so happy. I saw her in Crawl, where she really proved she could be a final girl, bad ass, but I also wanted to see how she’d be in a caring big sister kind of way (Claire to me is the most unique character in the RE games, because she can be cheerful and upbeat in stressful situations and I actually really love that characterization), to only see her be bland and her and Chris being assholes to each other (that really pisses me off, because I hate that nor did it need to be in the film; Claire and Chris care for each other and that irked me so much). But Avan Jogia as Leon? I was confused even when I saw that on the poster. He’s mostly done comedies and was a Nickelodeon kid star (he was also in Zombieland 2, which I really felt he was kind of bland in that film as well), so trying to make him a leading guy with charisma just felt off…and I was right when they made him into a doofus. I don’t mind characters like that, but not this way. Jill and Chris were bland action heroes, Wesker and Irons were kind of villains with no reason to be, and Birkin was played by a guy who won’t kiss other actors on screen (due to faith) and I recall these RUclipsrs who were reacting to a film he was in (I know Who Killed Me, I think) cussing and they said it sounded so unnatural from his delivery, like he never actually cusses in real life (which isn’t a bad thing), but Birkin to me has no morals (or he puts them aside, prioritizing his job over them) …so why hire an actor who definitely doesn’t play a part like that well? I don’t hate the film, I just consider it like the other live action RE films (Degeneration to me seems like the only film anywhere close to being an actual RE film).
What needs to happen is get the RE film rights away from Constantin Film and let someone else have them. Resident Evil is Aliens meets Jurassic Park, with a little zombie horror, not Walking Dead meets The Expendables. And let’s also be honest, Capcom nowadays isn’t invested in Resident Evil being Resident Evil. 7 & 8 aren’t bad games, but it’s obvious they want that Outlast type of game, and that’s ok, but they don’t come off as Resident Evil to me (5 & 6 are also like that, but do feel related to the original games). And I think RE 2 & 3’s remakes were under minded by making them fast, because 4 felt way more polished than 2 & 3’s.
I honestly wish I could help make Resident Evil it’s own franchise work talking about (The RECU if you will), with a AHS type show that maybe works on the smaller games as a season and other original stories, while relating them to a film series). Maybe Disney should acquire them (I know Disney is sucking right now, because they can’t just calm down on making shit, but I think with Resident Evil not being their bread and butter, they would be able to funnel in money, but not rush the projects out, but have a big budget to hire people who know what they are doing).
Very well said
I’m sorry but I’ll take “self insert protag with lore ignored but entertaining” over “no self insert protag and lore slightly more appreciated but boring” any day of the week.
This movie wasn't terrible but could have been way better.
A city of 100,000 people would probably have 60-100 police including at least 8-12 SWAT qualified. They likely wouldn't have a full time aviation unit with a helicopter. They likely wouldn't have a dozen police dogs, perhaps 4 dogs max. A city of 15,000 people might have 12 cops total including the chief and 2 or 3 patrol officers with SWAT qualifications and possibly one or two patrol officers with sniper qualifications for SWAT call out, if they even had any such SWAT qualified officers. Raccoon City being a small dump and having a full time SWAT team sort of doesn't make sense.
If they go by the games raccoon city had a population of like 120k
I hated this when it came out but just rewatched it with my mum and sister, the film gets bored of itself 2 3rds in but i thought it was dumb fun. Im a huge fan of the games so i know ill always have them.
I remember seeing this on tv and wow it was bad so finding out why explains alot
Maybe RE5 on the big screen.. nah these movies and Netflix series just need to end.
I wasn’t mad at this movie… just so disappointed. It was so boring. At least the Anderson ones weren’t
Just read the S.D. Perry books.
I thought this movie was garbage. The locations and set designs were really good but the rest was not good imo. Leon was such an idiot and everyone else was just idk wtf
I really hated the movie but at least some of the sets looked great/perfect and i found the Lisa vs licker fight to be my favorite part.
11:20 The reason why they crammed 1&2 together is that the remake of RE2 was very successful (hence why they took all the visual cues they could from it) and it made sense to adapt it into a movie and they also wanted to reboot the series after the final chapter of Anderson's crappy epic...the only problem is that you cannot have RE2 without RE1 but they didn't feel like making two movies.
The budget cuts also affected the cinematography of the movie - the DP was Maxime Alexandre, the same guy who shoots all of Alexandre Aja's movies (including his remake of "The Hills Have Eyes"), which tend to be very stylish, as well as flicks like "The Nun" (which is has some very cool visuals as well). Hell, he had already worked on a videogame adaptation by shooting "Silent Hill: Revelation", which looked pretty good. "Welcome to Raccoon City" doesn't even look half as good as any of the movies the man shot in the past 20 years (and most of them were made for less than 25 million dollars). It's pretty evident they cut a lot of corners in terms of set design, lighting and even color grading (movies are 99% shot digitally nowadays, but Welcome feels very video-ish and cheap, like they slapped a REC709 LUT on the footage and hastily tweaked it).
I'd argue that you could just jump straight into RE2 if they wanted to capitalize on RE2 remake that bad. It stands pretty well apart from RE 1's story, and general audiences would not have cared either way.
Again the duel scenario probably would have worked better with the original budget, but I guess we'll never know.
@@FraudDepartmentYT In a game, yes - the first game I played in the series was OG RE2 and the nods to RE1 only gave the narration more scope: I didn’t feel like I was missing anything. But that was a game. In a movie, referencing another story we never see wouldn’t make sense (especially since in a film it would be referenced more frequently than in the game). So, they needed RE1 in one form or the other.
@@thermonuclearcollider4418Movies reference events that aren’t directly shown all the time. No story exists in a vacuum.
Re2 would have worked fine as a standalone movie. Nothing about it requires you to have knowledge on Re1.
@ care to provide an example? Especially one where a very important plot point (Claire looking for Chris) references something that is never shown? Throwaway lines that help world building (like Snake Plissken flying to Leningrad in “Escape from New York”) don’t count - they are supposed to be vague.
@@thermonuclearcollider4418 I mean that just sounds like every horror movie with a missing sibling setup plot, ever…. The first one that comes to mind is The Forest. The sister does show up, but we never really see what her experience in the Forest was like, or how she got stranded there, as far as I can remember.
The Skull Island movie also had mention of how one of the people they found had originally been stranded there with a Japanese pilot as a sort of “Hell in the Pacific” situation, and even though their experience on the island could have likely been its own movie, we never actually saw it.
Nobody would have an issue with not directly seeing Chris’s full experience in the mansion as long as she finds enough to clues to serve as setup for a prequel or sequel. Re2’s plot is not dependent on the existence of an Re1, and Claire could have easily just been a random girl who just happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time, with no connection to Chris whatsoever.
the overbudgeting of the stars team makes a lot of sense when you look at actual US police budgets. My small town police chief literally had a replica of the iron throne made for himself with the department budget so...
I enjoyed it.
This movie is terrible, its like they saw all the hate the Anderson films got and were like "we can top that"
Claire looks older than Chris and doesn't have her iconic ponytail
Leon looks like Carlos Oliviera and is portrayed as an idiot that nobody wants to exist
Jill is another victim of the nonsensical race swapping garbage and has a crush on Wesker for no reason
Wesker is absolutely nothing like himself in the games and doesn't get his shades until the credits
Lisa Trevor (a monster) is somehow the worst implamented somehow
Mixing RE1 and 2 just doesn't work. Terrible film
I genuinely loved this movie. It's probably the best RE movie made. Not perfect by any means, would have preferred if Jill and Leon looked more accurate to the games, but in the end it was still a fun flick. Felt like a late 90s/ early 2000s movie.
20:39 You know this background music triggered something of a Pavlov response in me. Old Screw Attack days.
I fell asleep while watching the movie I was so bored
Dang has it really been three years already man that is just how uninteresting the movie is😂
This movie is so damn bad. It makes Uwe Bolls' movies be nominated an Oscar Award.
I really liked Welcome To Racoon City. At least its mostly accurate to the games. Or at the very least you know for a fact that you are watching Resident Evil.
ITS BEEN 3 YEARS???
also this movie is absolute garbage aside from set design
idk who thought mixing 2, 7+ hour stories into an hour and a half
plus aside from birking the casting is godawful in all fronts
That's just not leon. He was new, but not stupid, or a fuck up. This idiot I'd supposedly the guy that in the future fights krauser on the tower. Nah
For me when I hear resident evil movie I think of Degeneration all the time. But I do like Welcome to Raccoon City the second best of the live action resident evil movies.
i hate that the put the story of re1 with re2 when they happened on different days. the events of re1 happened few days before the events of re2, and to be little more nitpicky. the events of re3 happened before 2. at least up til the clock tower.
I was optimistic even with the questionable casting choices(Wesker and Leon); got to the diner scene and turned it right tf off. Its bad enough with the whole Redfield/Birking/Lisa Trevor forced connection, but butchering the characterization of arguably the 2 most reliable protagonists in the series was too much....i have no intention of ever watching WTRC in its entirety...
ITCHY TASTY!
Honestly it should have been a Resident Evil Outbreak prequel. That would have worked.
You can’t make a good mainline RE movie without a MASSIVE budget
to help set the scope i work for a small town south of boston population under 10,000 we have 10 cops 3 part timers ….3 sgt’s and 1 deputy cheif and chief … raccoon city is prob the size of the city of let’s say brockton .. coming from a police officer point of view
Having read the script in late 2019 it was largely unchanged so I'm curious what old draft you're talking about?
Here's a thread that I used as a jumping off point. There is no definitive old draft that points to the movie being better, but there is a lot of bits of evidence that this movie was originally more ambitious.
Again like I said in the video take it with a grain of salt that this movie would have been saved if not for studio interference.
residentevil.org/threads/resident-evil-welcome-to-raccoon-city-2021-original-scripts-and-deleted-scenes.13214/
I love Welcome To Raccoon City. Is it perfect? No. Is it entertaining? Yes. Way better than those awful Milla Jovovivviiviivch garbage movies.
I also liked the movie much more than those Milla Jovovich movies. Only watchable is the first.
@Tuomas85 Same, liked the first 1. Loved the second because of accurate recreations of Raccoon City fighting back against the zombies. Hated the second half 😬 Fist fight against Nemesis!?!? BS
Better than the CGI movies too. I hated those.
This CGI movies are leagues better than any live action RE film
Resident Evil (2002) Movie is way better. To prefer Welcome to Raccoon City is not only an error of taste, but also a complete misunderstanding of the saga.
So that First Person RE2 footage, where is that from?
It's a tape you find in RE2 remake.
i will give it the nod over the anerson films in terms of trying to nail the aesthetic of RE. Some moments work but the list of what works is much shorter than what doesn't. Its a shame. RE has the basis for a good movie (Haunted house sci-fi horrror) but for whatever reasons no one can get it right.
Zombie punching through helicopter glas was what ruined it for me
Go woke go broke!
Video was recommended me by RUclips: While I'm kinda getting tired of a RUclipsr cynically swearing himself through the video because I think, this one here is well made enough to stand on it's own, this was a good watch. Especially if you count in that this movie is almost and already forgotten by the majority like the Netflix-Series. I do think WTRC seems to have some kinda fanbase? I often see praise for the movie and see also positive commentaries here. I hated the movie the first time I've watched it and hated it even more when I showed it to another RE fan. This is one is worse than the Anderson movies. The movies of Paul Anderson are nothing more than generic Sci-Fi Action-Movies with the Resident Evil license slapped on it. Like in the video mentioned, if you don't expect anything you get, at the best, a few solid action movies out of it with a few stinker. WTRC, on the other hand, is on the same level as the new Like a Dragon adaption on Amazon. It's using the games as an alibi to create original story arcs and own interpretations of iconic characters. And then the producers behind this garbage thinks everything will be great if you build in actual material from the source material. It does not work, it will never work. WTRC and Like a Dragon might stick way closer to the games visually, but they fail on every other level.
Constantin Film picked up the license from Capcom when no other studio, not even Miramax, was willing to produce Resident Evil movies. They made an absurd amount of money with the two trilogies. So it's no wonder Capcom stick to them. I don't know how long this license deal goes but this can, technically speaking, go on forever. If they have an agreement with Capcom that it is enough to put out a movie or series every few years to renew the license, then these rights will stick to Constantin Film. But they made a loss with the Monster Hunter movie and WTRC and the Netflix series were critically and comercially flops. Really excited where this is going with Constantin Film and Capcom. Cheers!
At least we know Jill, is the master of lock picking... Thanks Berry....
I hope someone make Resident Evil animated show based on Manhua Story
The film shouldnt have been 3 games. Period. Too many characters. Too many plotlines to juggle. I remember hearing the casting WELL before shooting started and it was obvious they were mixing 1 and 2. Even if the Roberts got his full budget then what? A 3+ hour film with slightly better CGI??? It was hubris. RE would make a better seasonal series. Like the second season of Stranger Things has the feeling and atmosphere of an RE game. Constantin simply doesnt want to pay for a writer that can balance the game material with writing believable and grounded world building.
This film came out the month of my 34th birthday. My childhood friends and I decided to go see it as part of my birthday celebrations and we had a blast. Is it a dumb horror film? Yes. But when you scrutinise the lore of the games, would it ever have been anything else? I doubt it 😂
Adding friends getting drunk or baked and goofing around makes watching PAINT dry more fun lol.
I liked it. Been a big fan of RE since the original RE2 released and I played it at my friend’s house. I immediately went out and rented a Playstation and RE1 from Blockbuster (I had an N64). I got RE2 on N64 when that released and played the crap out of it. I played every RE game including offshoots through RE5, which I didn’t like and didn’t finish. So I consider myself an RE oldhead.
And I liked it. It’s not perfect and it would’ve been better choosing one game instead of smashing the two together, but I thought it was an enjoyable if flawed movie. I even watched it a second time to see if I’d still like it and I did.
I honestly don’t get the complaints about Leon. He wasn’t some fantastically fleshed out character in RE2. He was a little bland because it was a PS1 game ported from Japan. That game was pretty melodramatic. And in RE4, he was a wise cracking 90s style action hero. I think people project this image of Leon onto him that isn’t accurate. Because I did, too, but going back and playing RE2 and RE4 years later, I realized that the way I remembered Leon wasn’t really the way he was depicted. So I thought Leon in this movie was fine. He felt relatable and not just a Tom Cruise character analogue.
I think people's point about Leon is that in the game, despite being a rookie he was capable of handling the situation, whereas in WTRC he was essentially useless and mostly did nothing.
I have to be like one of 5 people that enjoyed this movie (I say this as someone who has been a life long resident evil fan)
😂😂😂 i4got all about this movie😂😂😂
If you think the Paul WS Anderson adaptations where good or enjoyable, I dont trust your judgement for anything.
basically everybody who capable of turn off their brain when watching movie
If you like this movie I don't trust your judgement in anything.
@@atomic747dude are you fucking retarded or just trolling welcome to raccoon city made the resident evil characters likable in live action Paul Anderson ruined it
@@atomic747correction: people that like welcome to raccoon city have good judgment the people that liked Paul Anderson resident evil films have no form of commen sense
@@atomic747worst movie of that year
I more or less dig this movie. But I liked the action monster movie Alice series too. As a long time fan since playing the first game back when I was a kid when it first came out, I would obviosuly love a RE movie set in the Spencer Mansion that's full of slow burn growing terror, I've enjoyed all of the films for what they are.
They messed up lion and Jill and I’m Latin and black. Horrible choice they made. I actually liked the movie a lot just not the race swapping.
Thought I was the only one that liked the movie
Lion
@@jayonecarlos9265 the movie is cool. But the race swapped bs no man killed it and they made Leon look like a 🤡 when his personality isn’t like that
The reason why he chose the actor he said that he saw every single actor for the role of Leon and he even stated that there was actors that came in and dressed & looked identical to Leon with the hair going down and he said that ya so visually they would have been a good Leon but he thought to himself hey wait I’m not doing like a cosplay type of thing cause then you just have the games on screen
I don ttmind the movie. Its the sets I like and the movie should have only been in the mansion.