Turn it up: Dali Oberon 3
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- Опубликовано: 15 июл 2024
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Specs:
Frequency Range (+/-3 dB) [Hz] 47 - 26,000
Sensitivity (2,83 V/1 m) [dB] 87
Nominal Impedance [ohms] 6
Maximum SPL [dB] 108
Recommended Amplifier Power [W] 25 - 150
Crossover Frequency [Hz] 2,400
Crossover Principle 2-way
High frequency driver, Quantity 1 x 29 mm
High frequency driver, Diaphragm type Soft Textile Dome
Low frequency driver, Quantity 1 X 7"
Low frequency driver, Diaphragm type Wood Fibre Cone
Enclosure type Bass Reflex
Bass Reflex Tuning Frequency [Hz] 49
Connection Input Single Wire
Magnetic Shielding
Recommended Placement Shelf or stand
Recommended Distance From Wall [cm] 5 - 50
Dimensions With Base (HxWxD) [mm] 350 x 200 x 315
Weight [kg] 6.3
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I've been waiting in anticipation for this review. I love Dali's speakers.
Glad to hear a review, positive too and a pair of speakers I've just ordered. I do like the Dali brand. 👍
Hi...I’ve had a pair for about a year, Very good speaker..I’m glad you agree 😃👍
Nice pair of speakers, bought them recently and paired them up with bluesound powernode. Love it. I noticed, they come really alive when you turn up the volume a bit
Had my Dali Concept speakers for 10+ years. Great value 👍
beautiful speakers
I only recently learned of Dali speakers. I bought a pair of their very affordable Spekktor 2. I'm using them on my computer desk and they are wonderful as a "near field" listening experience.
Love my DALI Spektor 1 😎🎧
More Dali's please! Love to hear your input on the Oberon's, Opticon's etc...
Dali makes good speakers.I like the Tonality if Dali.
I love my Dali Evidence 870!!! Really great sound for the money
My first pair of real speakers were the Dali zensor 3. Had no idea what I was doing in terms of placement and setup at the time and sold them within a year for larger vintage focal's. I wish I had them just to hear how they would sound now that I know a bit more about how to approach a hifi setup.
Hi Steve, good review.
I've got the Opticon 8's & I love them.
What amplification are you using with it?
I've owned both the Zensor 1 and Oberon 3 speakers from DALI and while the Zensor 1 was a great speaker, the amount of punch and attack of the larger Oberon 3's is why I decided to trade in the smaller speakers. I have them paired to a Rega Brio (newest model) and Fluance RT-81 table with a AT 95E cart. These Oberon 3's have no issues filling a decent sized room at a low volume. DALI also specifically asks that you don't "toe-in" many of their speakers because they design them to disperse a wider sound than some other manufacturers. Very happy with my setup thus far. Happy Listening!
I have had the Dali 104 for more than 20 years, it was time for something new, the Oberon 3 was a great choice.
Great review Steve still love to have you over to my shop. Where in NY Metro can you hear the Oberons vs Kef Q vs Quads. Each of these afforadable loudspeakers offers something a little different. We can do a live shoot out.
i grew up on Dali's, in my country its more common than bose and klipsch.
did not think lyngdorf still was working with dali, he been into so many other things last years.
Review the Oberon 1. You’ll be glad you did
Hej Steve, finally you have mentioned Dali!!! Hope you could get your hands on Menuet, as most blogs/magazines skip to review that model for some reasons!
Menuet sound surprisingly brilliant considering how small they are. Its a hidden jewel of Dali.
I'm using them with Sony V-Fet TA-5650, beautiful sound ❤️
GOOD AMP!!!! 😊
Dali IV were my first speakers ever. Purchased around 1984/5 for only $200 new. Great value! Later around 2007 got the Dalu Suite 2.8 and center speaker...returned them 2 weeks later. Loved their cabinets but didn't sound that good :(
É possível entender os elogios dessas Dali, é só observar como agrada olha esta sala...
My desktop system is powered by a Sansui AU-7500... bought a pair of DALI Zensor 3s to replace a pair of JMLab/Focals my kid stole to use with the tube amp we built... I digress...
I hated the Zensors out of the box... they sounded like they had a sheet of cardboard in front of them... but the manual says 'break 'em in'... yaya, OK. So I'd keep them playing in the background, not paying that much attention.
One day... I remember I was spinning Eric Clapton "461 Ocean Boulevard". And all of a sudden the cardboard was gone... vanished. Turned around and got myself properly sat and turned it up.
And that was the day hate turned to love. Now a while in they're even smoother but tight... yes they will hit hard, to surprising chest-banging lows. Vocals are golden, and the highs have that lovely soft-dome twinkle, without being harsh.
Very good stuff, and very reasonably priced imo. Listen and see... everyone's mileage varies.
I like the zenzor line very nice and good looking speakers! ! No too expensive..
Yeah the zensor line not bad have 7.2 set up for home cinema is stunning plus the sound stage is wide. Got Dali zensor 7 for front left and right Dali vocal for center and 2x dali ef12 sub and 2 x Dali zensor 3 for back left and right and for surround back left and right, the zensor 3 sit on custom design fs104 speaker stands and speakers are all on isolation gel pads on stands and each stand has 7.5 kg of attacam attabites for mass loading all connected with qed silver anniversary for back 4 channels and qed genesis silver spiral from there signature range and qed signature subwoofer cable for my 2 subs. Cost about £5000 in total but worth it LOVE movies and music a bonus lol
@@harpalchauhan428 Had Dali zensor 3 for a while, didn't like them at all. Boomy bottom end with a hole in the lower mids and overall an uninvolving and disorganised sound with my amp. Heard the Oberon 3 the other day though and was very impressed (with Marantz pm6006uk). I've heard even better things about the floor standing 5. Might look out for a price drop
@@robertmarshall7712 did you have on stands or just on a unit or wall brackets , mine are on custom design FS104 signature stands that make your speakers really sing lol look them up. Stands had spikes that sat into 2 carpet tiles one on top of other then on the stands I put attacam isolation gel pads and then mass loaded the main columns with 7.5kg of attacam attabites to help control the bass from being boomy and out of control that 2x Dali zensor 3 and 2x custom design give so much bass that I have no need to use my 2 subs when I play music in multi channel minus subwoofers . Plus use qed genesis silver spiral speaker cable that keeps very tight grip on the drivers and timing wise perfect
@@harpalchauhan428 I had them on reasonably good target audio stands but they just left completely cold, even after running in. Could be that my amp (Marantz mcr603) was not up to the job, but then again with Elac debut b5 it sounds great. Oberon 3 on the other hand were a different propostion! Really liked them
@@robertmarshall7712 could be that the speaker or amp didn't suit each other weird but can happen. Lol got away with it on my denon x4000 lol
I really hope you get to review the Rubicon 8. Quite curious to what you have to say about that speaker.
At that price I would be thinking those wonderful, historical Wharfedales.
I'm a fan of Dali speakers. Would like to get some in my house to try em out more.
Great video, would you like to do a comparison test for oberon 3 vs elac debut reference? It should be fun.
Mr Guttenberg. When will you make more of Dali reviews that you promise in this video?
thx.
Still very nice speakers. Need some power. I have the Oberon 5s on order, second hand, where they are a steal (if you like the presentation). Still need an expensive amp with a lot of current, if buying new.
Não sei ainda o que viram nessas caixinhas! A kef Q 150, 350 então nem se fala. A LS 50 tornou- se uma referência em refinamento e qualidade estrutural.
I was just wondering if you have done a review of the Martin Logan 35xt's? I have a pair and absolutely love them but always wonder what they sound like compared to other speakers like the Dali, KLH, Klipsch, Andrew Jones ELAC Debut 2.0, B&W book shelf speakers etc.... I thank you in advance, before I purchased these speakers I did do a side by side of the 35XT's and the B&W 600 series and I liked the ML's due to the folded tweeter It was a cleaner, faster, and more true sound thank I had with the B&W's or my Polk Audio TSi200's. Plus they are gorgeous to look at.
Hey Steve,
Interesting you start the review introducing the brand. I think out here they're well known = a bit of a 'staple' speaker. I'm unsure if that's in a good or not such a good way, as I've not really followed them.
However, fairly recently, I did check out their Callisto standmount active speakers. I didn't buy them, but they weren't too shabby!
Thanks Steve, great review. I just got a pair of Dali Zensor 3 weeks ago and this is my first speaker.Since I am not an experienced Audiophiliac so I won't judge the speaker here. Have you reviewed it before? BTW, I have heard that Dali stopped producing Zensor 3 and Oberon 3 is a replacement , is that ture? I don't know the price of Zensore 3 in US since I can't find it in amazon but in my country, for about $570,you can get a pair of new Zensor 3 plus DENON PMA-520 . The price is way more cheaper than Oberon 3.
Yes, no more Zensor, they are selling the Oberon 3 as a substitute
Please please review rubicon 2 🙏👍🏻
Dali, Dynaudio, Bang & Olufsen, Lyngdorf, Scanspeak, Vifa, and Peerless that goes into SVS subs. the list of quality Hi- Fi from Denmark is endless. Must be the taxes and free government funded university studies🙂. Danes rules in quality Hi-Fi area counted per Capita. I have the older entry level Dali Zensors 3, 1 and, Vokal run by a integrated Marantz AV reciver, a budget option with high wife approval factor. Skip the sound bars Sonos and Boses.
What I like about Dali is in my opinion a true natural sound.
Hi Steve can you please review the Dali Oberon 9s. Cheers.
Currently running a pair of these and I'm looking to upgrade, any suggestions? Since I like the Dali signature a lot, wonder if I should just get Oberon 7, or perhaps try something like Buchardt s300?
Hi Steve, some of what you've said about the Dali Oberon sounds a bit like how people describe Dynaudios (not so much warmth, but pace and bass). How would you compare the sound of this to an equivalent Dynaudio speaker? Cheers.
Unsolicited response but I'd compare my Oberon 1s and Oberon 5s very favorably with my father's old Dynaudio towers for the relative price (I can't remember the specific Dynaudio model unfortunately). Very similar presentation and staging. The old Dyn 3 woofer towers have a bit more presence especially on the low and low-mid end, but are also much less forgiving than either of the Oberon models in terms of room acoustics and positioning.
If you are familiar with and like Dynaudio sound from some years back (I can't speak to their current offerings), then you'll be right at home with Dali.
I infer that Elac and Wharfedale are better values in the states.. The Elac Debut Reference looks interesting. Maybe Andrew will get Steve a pair in October to review?
Elac might well be but they pay more for Wharfedale compared to the UK.
Steve, ever got your hands or ears on the spektor 2 from the same Dali?
Sir can you please give an a idea about dali spector 1 and 2 bookshelf speakers
Hi Steve. I think I might enjoy these as an upgrade to Elac debut b5 mki which I got partly on your recommendation. The Elacs have been absolutely incredible for the price with the only thing lacking being a more revealing treble. Do you think that the Dalis would provide an upgrade in this sense? From your description I think the Klipsch 600 is a bfight sound which I'm not such a fan of. Would like to hear your thoughts...
I own a pair of oberon 3's. I can tell, the treble is excelent because the driver magnets are of smc material. Cristal clear treble. Somethimes i have to bring em down a little bit with my equalizer because they are too crispy clear on some recordings. Steves analyse is very good. As He already said: treble - perfect. Mid - good. Bass - very good.
I have a DALI E9-F subwoofer - love it with my Fyne Audio F302's. Very musical. They make a Zensor line which is much cheaper than the Oberon's but I guess you don't get it in the US?
The Oberon speakers has replaced the Zensor
@@torehy5912 I didn't think they were a direct replacement, they are still an active product on the Dali website.
@@ruk2023--
Thats what I was told where I purchased my Oberon 7s.
I am a Scandinavian, and Dali is a brand from here as well, maybe they stopped selling them here only.
Will you review new Sony’s power near field speakers?
nice review, have you heard the opticon 2 mk2 to compare to?
Doyou recomend this or the klipsch rp 600m II?.
Dali oberon 3 vs Triangle borea br 03, amp Marantz pm 6006? Pop music, dance and rock ballads. Thank you.
What amp did you pair it with? I have an Oberon 5 and LOVE it. I still want a better amp than using my avr for music
What are you currently using with it? The Cambridge Audio CXA-61 or CXA-81 would be a good options to consider with it for stereo.
Audiolab 6000A. One of the best pairing I have heard. I work in a HiFi store and they are the most popular choice
Are you sure these are the “entry” level from Dali? In Europe they are the next step up from the Zensor range so although at the lower end of their ranges as a total, they aren’t quite the entry level
I think I heard an interview where a Dali representative said the Oberon line is meant to Replace the Zensors, although at a slightly higher price point.
@@peeperization Thats interesting. Hadn't heard that. Also interesting as they are still selling the Zensors in some markets as far as I can see. Hmmmm...
Dont forget theres an even lower range called Spektor.
Rumble in the jungle!
What about NHT video tour ?
Just to add the Elacs are so good, they have beaten many speakers costing twice the price in my opinion: Monitor Audio Silver 1, Dali zensor 3, Wharfedale Denton 80 to name but three...
Which would u choose Klipsch or dali
Hi Steve guttenberg is oberons 3 better than Klipsch rp600m I'm not sure which should I get and what's hifi didn't give oberon 3's a good review
Watch zero fidelity's video.... All of your concerns will be answered including the what hifi review of the oberon 3
Thanks elton c I will
This pair or klipsch rp600?
Review the Dali zensor 3, please!!
The Zensor 3 is discontinued now... The Oberon 3 is the new model...
Hi Steve, I heard a lot of good stuff about SVS speakers, do you think you could do a review on the floor standing model ? Thanks.....Mike
Kef 350 or these?
I'd like to buy a DALI spektor 6 but can't find any believable reviews...
How does it compare to the Klipsch RP600M? (Any chance you could use at least ONE classical music recording in each review? Pop/rock/jazz recordings usually sound better on small speakers.)
Adrian S The 600 M is a gigantically more dynamically alive speaker, more visceral more exciting. The 3 is sweeter, fuller, and generates a lot more bass.
Thank you!
@@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac So I am confused, which one to go with dynamic and lively or fuller more bass ??
Would be interesting to run these against the Klipsch RP600M...
Just heard about this pair today, wondering which are best
Did Dali share a designer with AR?
Of course not. But I guess your point is that AR were first with a number of design features we take for granted today..... Both in loudspeakers and, I guess, turntables.
@@bigblueocean one of the designers from AR went to another speaker company in the 1980s. I'm pretty sure it was Dali...
@@EricBrettJones ah..... Shows you what I know. Thanks for your reply
Want drums and rock, the new tool album Fear Inoculum. Steve please listen to listen to this and rock and to get new young listeners into audiophile community.
Thanks, it's good.
Also, and this isn’t a criticism, more of an observation....
I love this channel. A really in depth of all things that you do, yourself and what you think. That’s great
But recently, although it’s something you have always done to a certain extent, you have started leaning more towards a music overview rather than a product “review”. I absolutely understand and get that an idea of the music and how it sounds and is recorded will give a much better insight to the way a product sounds, but I am in the market for these very speakers so was very excited to see you had done a review. But it was the speakers I wanted to hear about, not the music you were playing on them. I got a basic insight into the sound of the speaker but for me there is recently too much concentration on the music you’re playing. As I said, I understand but a less comprehensive and detailed look at the music would give more time for the actual in depth review. Leave the music overview in, but maybe keep it brief? Sorry to sound critical Steve. I love you and love this channel and keep up the awesome work. But as much as the music is absolutely integral to the product, maybe set a base line of at the start with what you are playing, why, what you’re playing it through and keep it brief so you can then get on with the juicy bit of of the review of the product itself. Of course, I am not the one doing this and have no inclination or idea to do it so you keep doing your thing!!! But just a mild observation, not necessarily criticism. I do hope it’s taken in the context it’s meant. Big kisses and hugs from a fan 🤗🤗
@ John
Your thoughts are interesting here and virtually mirror an earlier comment suggesting this was more of a music review than speaker review.
I think the opposite. I was very interested in hearing and 'learning' about the music Steve made this speaker review with.
Whilst I love audio gear, hence I'm here, my true passion is the music, with an enormous collection (vinyl, CD, digital).
It really helps me to understand the sound of speakers on review when I know about the music. I actually made comment on this review based on the music in an earlier thread, as I felt the music selection was rather narrow. So, although I do have some 'mental' idea how these sound, I also thought the speakers may not have got a good overall 'workout'.
After all many speakers can sound good with 1 type of music and somewhat lacking with another. So, if you asked me is this speaker a good all rounder based on this review, I'd really have little idea.
I get time is of the essence as Steve makes daily videos, however I'd still like to know the music Steve is listening to and hope he covers a broad range of styles.
Personality, I have a broad and typically eclectic taste in music. However, as 'viewers' you would assume there's a broad range of music listeners here also.
I think Steve did well addressing the sound of the speakers based on the music he listened to. That would be the way I'd demo speakers. I'd take in some music I thought would give the speakers a fair workout and decide how they sounded. Similarly, if making comparisons I'd use the same albums/tracks, otherwise the comparison would be skewed to my ears with a different track playing through one set of speakers, with another track through another and so on.
Interesting we have different thoughts here John. Cheers! 😃
nostro1001 I actually agree with you on a large part of this. For me the music is the most important thing. I couldn’t agree more. Also some speakers are one dimensional and will be fantastic with bass heavy stuff for instance but shallow on nuances with other styles of music....and so on. You’re totally right. And I am definitely not saying Steve should stop the music overview at all. Not at all. In fact it gives a good indication of what he’s listening to to assess the speaker. I absolutely agree. But not all of us listen to the same music. It’s highly unlikely I would listen to the music that Steve had mentioned in this video, or any others for that matter as it’s not my style. But....to know how that music sounds and how it works the speaker is a good thing. For sure. So worth knowing
But....
It’s a speaker review. So for me, although it should be mentioned, briefly touching on how that record sounds etc, it’s become a little like it’s the main focus rather than the baseline from which to assess the speaker/component performance. If something says “speaker review”, it’s the speaker I want to hear about. The music gives me the idea and grounding for how it was tested but there was less in here about the speaker to only really gloss over it. That’s for me anyway.
It’s interesting that some of his contemporary reviewers with which Steve is familiar with never mention the music yet give just as comprehensive and if not slightly more objective reviews on things. I LOVE that Steve stands out because he puts his own take on things and is so productive. It’s great. And knowing his take on his tastes and how they affect his thoughts on a product is great too. But I just felt the bias was sliding further away from the actual purpose of the video slightly.
And yes, it really is interesting how everyone gets something different from this. Long may Steve continue though. Highly entertaining stuff
@@johnnyboy114 Hey John, thank you for the detailed and thoughtful reply - appreciated!
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I'm not sure if that works - I should have checked it prior. It's a link to a post 2 below or above by Joe Davenport (seems the order of posts change). Please have a look.
Joe clearly agrees with your thoughts feeling it was more of a music review than speaker review. Steve's response was - "what more do you want, you also have the specs below the post." I also responded and questioned the narrow selection of music amongst other things. Steve is typically light on with words - either too busy, doesn't care, smart for not engaging, or really doesn't like being totally transparent. I really have no idea, nor does it perturb me either way. I think to some extent we 'know' Steve the reviewer.
The audio world has changed dramatically in relatively recent times, with opportunities for discourse such as this, online forums etc, easy access to information and reviews, where previously there wasn't all that much out there: magazines, words from a salesman or at 'shows', perhaps clubs for the diehard enthusiasts - that really was about it. And now the public 'demands' more. Greater transparency I'd suggest is high on the agenda for many (I'm speaking generally, rather than specifically to here), greater detail, more objectively (which never seems possible as it's an individual's review) and so on.
So, back to my initial thoughts, Steve's (in Joe Davenport's post) and mine, I guess, what more about this speaker could or should Steve have spoken about? My thoughts surrounded that of the narrow range of music Steve listened to and the time spent (which was undisclosed). Hence, only getting a feeling of what these speakers sounded like with that fairly limited range of music.
By contrast, talking about how a speaker sounds without knowing the music seems rather pointless (to me). Hey, was it strong tight sub-bass on ACDC, Stravinksy or Travis Scott How did they handle those complex passages or do they sound 'alluring' cause it's one of those bland (to my ears) audiophile recordings? Yet throw at a speaker some electronic music and they no longer have that 'convivial' sound that may have been described. Etc!
It's rather complex & given Steve presents daily he must surely have time constraints. This maybe a weakness here or at other times a strength. Who knows? :)
Take care, enjoy the music and the audio gear. Ciao.
$800 a pair? That's a shame, they are only 550€ in Europe.
That's a considerable difference in price. Doesn't make a big difference though, that review didn't inspire me (or anyone else probably) to run out and grab a pair. There's just WAAAAAAAY too much competition at that price point. "Hey Steve, would you take these over the 600Ms?" (I bet I know the answer). 👽🖖"Na-nu"
Yeah thats steep for us in the U.S.I will be waiting on the new elac debut at 499.00 andrew jones never disappoints yes Dali does make good speaker but in that price theirs alot of competion Polks LSIM 703 bookshelfs on big time sale wish i had the money to buy and review those but thanks for the review steve
@@vcp93 zero fidelity did a comparison to the 600m in his review of the Oberon 3
@@juliangst Thanks for the info. I was only using the 600M as an example of a less expensive speaker that "everyone and their brother" raved about; including Steve. I wasn't really interested in a direct comparison, however I appreciate the tip. Cheers! 👽🖖"Na-nu"
@@vcp93 I'd pick the 600m for sure.
More of a music review than a speaker review.
Joe Davenport That’s fair, but what did I miss? What do you need to know that’s not in the specs directly below the video?
@@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac
Hey Steve,
Whilst I don't think you missed anything as such and I do feel like I have a fair understanding of what they may sound like., what occurred to me is that your selection of music was rather narrow. Subsequently, I thought. If Steve just listed to portions of the said 4 albums or even the entirety of them, does that therefore mean you listened to the speakers for a total of ~3 hrs max? Moreover, was that listening time competed over a period of time or just within a day?
I think what I'm asking is how you typically complete a review or more specifically this review on the basis others may differ? Thanks!
Looking forward to more reviews and those killer behind the scenes looks at more well known audio companies. Cheers!!
@@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac Specs? Whoa "I got a bridge to sell you". 🙄
Steve at least be consistent with your BS please. 🤦♂️
@@amb3cog sorry? How is that BS?
@@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac Comparaisons with same price speakers like Klipsch rp-600m
i got a pair of zensor from a charity shop. 6.99.pounds. they didn't know what they were.(laughs out loud.)
Piano is percussion? I thought they are string instruments.
Pianos' hammers strike the strings, hence percussion.
I guess that makes sense 👍 learnt something today
Meh, all those loudspeaker companies making their entry level in China is for me a sign of lack of dedication to product.
Outsourcing qualitative manufacturing to China isn't cheap at all they won't save much to the end customer. It is just that Chinese companies have tooling to make volume.
So in the end , It is just sounds to me like lack of care of entry level from manufacturers.
Akorus interesting comment. So are they supposed to build a factory solely for the entry level in a place like Denmark? I think you are right that the tooling to make volume is an issue. Would it lead to better product? Is it possible that good quality can be from China? Just questions
Akorus, In the grand (non consumer) scheme of things, China is a poor international trading partner for most countries. Chinese manufacturing is, however, much cheaper for audio companies to pursue for a variety of reasons, one of which you mentioned; production capacity. Speaking for myself as an American, I am slowly but surely replacing my Chinese made audio gear to either US made products and / or made in counties politically and trade friendly to the US and western allied countries including Thailand, Taiwan, Japan and South Korea. We all must decide for ourselves what is MOST important; fair trade and geopolitically friendly vs the lowest price at all costs. There is always a “price” that will be paid at some point in time. This is just my personal opinion and conscience.
Allow me to reply:
I think chinese manufacturing is absolutly fine, I am personnaly a fan of chinese homegrown electronics and I think the Chinese companie became extremly good at that
Companies like Cayin or Audio GD are companies of people with real passion. And you can feel there is something beyond the "bang for the buck", real personnality and a audiophile vision. (That are now lacking to some western companies... take anything closely related to Harman or some Japanese electronic maker : no real care or passion anymore)
What I criticize is outsourcing.
Because in the end outsourcing is often the result of a lack of care.
It is very possible to make entry level in house. I'll take some example of my own country:
Focal isn't a big company but they are dedicated to making the most possible in house. Over the year they really shown dedication to product: developing both proprietary technologies and process to make in house.
Davis acoustics is by all account a small company, less than 15 people and yet they manage to make all of their driver and assembly in house, and they are not some esoteric high end manufacturer : they start with 100 euros bookshelf and 200 euros floorstander made in France.
Why is it possible to make in house for them but not the others?
Knowing about thoses examples I cannot be kind to manufacturers who just outsource just to gain some flexibility.
Akorus, I very much agree on your points. There are / were outstanding Chinese proprietary audio companies that deserve the respect and popularity in the marketplace. Oppo comes to mind. The outsourcing many domestic (pick your country) manufacturers are resorting to is very dismaying. In the US there are several affordable audio manufacturers that steadfastly believe in in-house production and domestic content. Schiit, Zu, Tekton Design, the Klipsch heritage line, Ohm, Grado are among several others that somehow manage to not outsource and still seem to manage a profit and employ fellow countrymen. My primary bone of contention lies with the fact that in the majority of cases, the Chinese do not respect or honor intellectual and artistic property rights or design patents. They continue to have predatory and unfair trade and marketing practices. Lastly, China is an unfriendly geopolitical threat to its neighbors and western countries.
True
China in coalition with Pakistan is a threat to India
Oberon 5 is a bargain. Less than 1k.
I got my pair of oberon 7 at $920
@@perori_neko How do you like them? I just auditioned the 5 this week. Really amazing sound for the money.
@@borlach321 indeed, I'm very impressived at this price, they sounds smooth and detailed, vocal is full and warm, they will give you a sound with body that a bookshelf speaker would never do. I'm very happy with them. BTW I pair them with my Yamaha AS3000
Too, Pricy. There is better for less .
Could you name a few with the same sound signature.... albeit warm...sweet....lucious... !!!
@@eltonc1505 elac debut reference
Don't care how they sound... The drivers look like compressed horse manure... Everytime I see a pair I see shit.... Sorry just not my thing....
Just take a blind test then. And smell.
This is hocus pocus. Music listening is totally subjective. At the same price level one brand may sound divine to one guy and garbage quality to another. And vice versa.
Secondly Dali doesn’t need to be introduced to real audio fans. It’s a very respected brand even in a developing and relatively poor country where most of the people think a 250$ htb is the end of the world. Higher up the few- Bose.
Dali logo is “ in admiration of music” and I think they just try to stick to that without being flamboyant
I choose between those and the Quad s-2. They Quads are the better ones with it's fantastic ribbon tweeters
JSR thanx how much are the quads?
A@@andreasleonlandgren3092 About 600 pounds