Some people might say "why to dig this after all this time?" SHUT THEM UP I CARE I WANT TO KNOW. 50 years might go by and I'll still wanna hear about this.
💯 I still go back to 2000s/2010s drama for nostalgia all the time! In hindsight a lot of these things were so petty/inconsequential, but they were everything at the time.
THESE are the interviews I’m here for! Not he who must not be named resurfacing on podcasts to be platformed again! Jen I just really feel your integrity on this platform is unmatched!
A hilarious tidbit is I commented on one of Tati’s instagram posts with him calling him that and I got blocked 🤣🤣 still blocked to this day! But hey I was right lol!
Look at Jenn dropping this out of nowhere! Can’t wait to see where creating this kind of RUclips as a media space content takes you in the future if you choose to continue down this path (and my little opinion is that you could or should.) you’re really good at this. We totally get what you’re doing. Thanks Jenn. Great job.
i love how willing gabriel has always been to admit how he started everything with the tweet. he definitely has always come off as the kind of person who when he knows he’s in the wrong he’ll be the first to say it.
@@andreah.8470 i wasn't wrapped up in the beauty scene when this was going around-- i wore make up and enjoyed learning about it, but i didn't watch many videos bc i hadn't learned many techniques to help my auditory processing issues yet, i was more a product review blog reader, like temptalia type stuff. but like from waht i know from jen and others now, its like. gabriel does seem very very much like. the most mature one? like hes like yeah, i started it, i fucked up there. is houldn't have been so petty, etc. its refreshing. he comes off as very level headed and like he has a good head on his shoulders. good on him, and the people who raised him! (not necessarily mom and dad, bc i dont know how he feels about his rents, but like. obviously someone did a good job, whether it was a kind teacher or a parent or an aunt/uncle etc)
I never cared for Gabriel back then. But after this interview I now have a lot of respect for him. I like how eloquent he is at speaking and not backing down while still being respectful but firm. And above all, he takes accountability of his actions! Not many do! Lots of respect for Gabriel and can’t wait to see the other videos of this interview!
Yes! I think that’s what made other influencers fear him the most. They had nothing on him because he was willing to own up to anything. They on the other hand had secrets they wanted buried
I’ll never forget leaving a comment for Gabriel asking which foundation he would recommend and he answered me. He suggested Maybelline matte and poreless. And it is tried and true, the foundation I always go back to. I just appreciate how helpful he was.
@24:26 As a Mexican American that is also the eldest child, I can definitely understand the feeling of having to be the voice for your family and fighting for them and fixing things for them whenever things go awry. It's rough and leads to a lot of guilt when we fail, and especially when we want to do things for ourselves. I can see how all those feelings were piling on Gabriel as he went through that public dispute, and was losing support, and possibly losing his career. I'm glad he brought up his experience since it's very relatable.
I wish all big influencers would tell their stories like this. I feel like I know him as a person and respect him so much now. He’s so smart and well spoken.
It's safe to say your other calling is investigative journalist and not just a commentator. I appreciate that this is adding another layer to an already complex situation.
JUST 10 minutes in and WOW..to anyone who reads the comments.. this is more than Drama.. it starts with ALL how this Beauty Space that we all LOVE started.. Jen has found her calling on bringing us along ...ok going back to watch!!
This was such a great interview. I love the openness and accountability he displayed. you are such a great interviewer, Jen. You have such a balance of creating an open environment, making it feel like a nonjudgmental conversation, but also diving deep and holding people accountable. I’d love to see more interviews like this ❤
I only knew of Gabriel Zamora through the drama channel coverage, pleasantly surprised how well spoken, like able he is. I like the industry intel he shares, so interesting. Learned more from this than Shane’s “documentary”
that part 👏🏻 it’s only natural for people to come in and out of our lives. but i almost feel like how you talk about them is a little more of a reflection than how many there’s been. and then someone like jeffree, who all of his “ex friends” were just fine with each other. 🚩🚩🚩
And this is why Karina Kaboom still says, "let's keep it 100." I didn't know too much about Gabby until this drama unfolded, but I have liked him ever since. Thanks for this interview we didn't know we needed. Major W.
I absolutely LOVE Gabriel!! Even though he has a limited education, he’s so freakin intelligent, eloquent, and talented. Out of the 4, he’s most definitely the better person.
Wow! You just raised the bar for any journalistic content creators. I have followed you from the very beginning and I am so proud of you! You are truly a breath of fresh with your honesty, empathy, and hard work. Thank you and keep it up!!
So happy to see this interview! Gabby was always my fave among these friend groups. I will never forget watching his apology video. He is a beautiful person and I am happy to see him doing well!
Every conversation I see with Gabriel, I dig him. Think he’s rad. Genuine and honest and showing growth in a way that we honestly want from people in the spotlight. But then I can’t get over his friendship with a man who harms black women and doesn’t support trans people having human rights and I cannot. But I so enjoyed this and will tune in for the next segment.
Jen I am really loving these series type of content your producing. It goes without saying that it must be a lot of work but I for one want to say well done, excellent work ❤
Jen this was beautifully done. I love your long form research content please keep these type of videos coming! Much love from another fellow Marylander ❤
I don’t know who this guy is tbh but from what I can tell, he seems very self-aware and is really good at reading people. I wish him well even though I don’t know him lol
This was fascinating. Reliving "good" times hahahahaha. Honestly loved hearing his POV. He is so real. I totally get being a fighter when you have to look out for your family from young. Right there with you.
this ending on Gabriel calling Tati out onto the dance floor...... the beauty community just doesnt know how to handle people like him who are so authentically themselves and don't mind pointing out when people aren't doing the same. im the same kind of person, and started my own dramagedon in my family because of it, why do I feel so seen by him lmaoooo
Love this episode! I honestly like Gabriel a lot and have an immense amount of respect for him for the way he tells the truth because it’s, unfortunately, very rare with the majority larger influencers.
It's Dramageddeon because it was an Armageddon style event for creators on RUclips. It was the reason those of us who had been grandfathered into the partner program suddenly got kicked tf out, why EVERYONE had horrible cpm for so dang long, so that RUclips could do some serious damage control. And Dramageddeon 2 is why you can't see exact sub counts anymore, as well as why Socialblade doesn't show lifetime numbers anymore.
💖 I found the beauty space during lockdown. I am ALL in wanting this info from before I joined. I love the REAL of it, instead of being fed a narrative. Thank you, Jen and Gabby. 💖
I didn’t even know about any of this until I watched your videos but I’m so hooked - it’s fascinating! Love Gabriel too, he seems really genuine and nice!😇
JS says he's the person who "tells it like it is" but I think that's his excuse to be nasty to people. Gabriel on the other hand does seem authentic/transparent even when taking accountability. People like G deserve bigger platforms than people like JS.
I never watched his videos, but I have a new found appreciation for him. He seems wise beyond his years, and you can tell that did not mean for all of that to happen. He seems like a true and genuine good soul, and I wish him the best. I can't wait to watch the rest of this interview, BUT I'm glad you paused to do the update on Halo. Great sleuthing Jen. YOU ARE AMAZING!
Jen, have you ever thought about being a journalist? You are a fantastic interviewer and reasearcher.These stories that you have been doing on these people and all the facts and research are so accurate, interesting, and well put together. You are very articulate, well educated, and down to earth as well! Keep up the great work. I'm really enjoying these videos. And as always, I also enjoy everything else you do on this channel too! 😘👍
I really love your videos Jen, and you're really levelling up here! I hope that Gabriel does mention how Jeffree and Nikita are both problematic in part 2 as I think it would be unfortunate to platform someone who doesn't see those things as a dealbreaker! Thanks for keeping us fed with such excellent content, Jen!
I was not ready for this video to end. I knew it was just part of a series, but I felt so bereft, like it was the world's biggest cliffhanger. Jen is so incredibly gifted.
Thank you so much for making this interview!! So much was going behind the scenes and Gabriel is very well spoken guy, very pleasant to listen to his side of the story.
Would genuinely love to know how Gabriel went from "I have personally heard racism from Jeffree Star's mouth" to "We had the funniest phone conversations! I thought it was cool to be in his campaign!"
Off topic -- Angie Hot & Flashy just announced she is retiring from RUclips! Stoooooopid algorithm. As a reminder, never look for videos from your subscriptions on the home page! Always go to you subscription tab.
Some people might say "why to dig this after all this time?" SHUT THEM UP I CARE I WANT TO KNOW. 50 years might go by and I'll still wanna hear about this.
💯 I still go back to 2000s/2010s drama for nostalgia all the time! In hindsight a lot of these things were so petty/inconsequential, but they were everything at the time.
When this was all going down years ago my mama even got interested and would ask me for updates 😂😂
This is I ter et and youtube history no matter what people think. It was. Dramaggedons changed youtube TOS!
😂😂😂💯
“Why dig this up?
CUZ I GOT A SHOVEL AND THIS EXCAVATION ISN’T OVER
THESE are the interviews I’m here for! Not he who must not be named resurfacing on podcasts to be platformed again! Jen I just really feel your integrity on this platform is unmatched!
A hilarious tidbit is I commented on one of Tati’s instagram posts with him calling him that and I got blocked 🤣🤣 still blocked to this day! But hey I was right lol!
@@monicamartinez-canty8939 You knew all along LOL
Look at Jenn dropping this out of nowhere! Can’t wait to see where creating this kind of RUclips as a media space content takes you in the future if you choose to continue down this path (and my little opinion is that you could or should.) you’re really good at this. We totally get what you’re doing. Thanks Jenn. Great job.
i love how willing gabriel has always been to admit how he started everything with the tweet. he definitely has always come off as the kind of person who when he knows he’s in the wrong he’ll be the first to say it.
@@mcplestreet he has always been very well spoken and self aware for his age
@@andreah.8470 i wasn't wrapped up in the beauty scene when this was going around-- i wore make up and enjoyed learning about it, but i didn't watch many videos bc i hadn't learned many techniques to help my auditory processing issues yet, i was more a product review blog reader, like temptalia type stuff. but like from waht i know from jen and others now, its like. gabriel does seem very very much like. the most mature one? like hes like yeah, i started it, i fucked up there. is houldn't have been so petty, etc. its refreshing. he comes off as very level headed and like he has a good head on his shoulders. good on him, and the people who raised him! (not necessarily mom and dad, bc i dont know how he feels about his rents, but like. obviously someone did a good job, whether it was a kind teacher or a parent or an aunt/uncle etc)
I never cared for Gabriel back then. But after this interview I now have a lot of respect for him. I like how eloquent he is at speaking and not backing down while still being respectful but firm. And above all, he takes accountability of his actions! Not many do! Lots of respect for Gabriel and can’t wait to see the other videos of this interview!
Yes! I think that’s what made other influencers fear him the most. They had nothing on him because he was willing to own up to anything. They on the other hand had secrets they wanted buried
i am on the same boat!
🎉totally
I’ll never forget leaving a comment for Gabriel asking which foundation he would recommend and he answered me. He suggested Maybelline matte and poreless. And it is tried and true, the foundation I always go back to. I just appreciate how helpful he was.
I STILL use this foundation because of Gabriel’s recommendation!💯♥️
A mistake all these people made, was getting involved with Jeffree Star.
He’s always the common denominator.
Daaaang! Jen! You are quickly becoming one of the most interesting channels on RUclips. Girl you have found your niche and you better stay there!
@24:26 As a Mexican American that is also the eldest child, I can definitely understand the feeling of having to be the voice for your family and fighting for them and fixing things for them whenever things go awry. It's rough and leads to a lot of guilt when we fail, and especially when we want to do things for ourselves. I can see how all those feelings were piling on Gabriel as he went through that public dispute, and was losing support, and possibly losing his career. I'm glad he brought up his experience since it's very relatable.
I wish all big influencers would tell their stories like this. I feel like I know him as a person and respect him so much now. He’s so smart and well spoken.
Can’t believe you drug Gabriel Zamora out on the dance floor
Drug??? 😮
@@Gaeliciashe meant dragged
@@chandulovespurple Aaaah 😂 I'm French so I was super confused.
@@Gaelicia je me suis dit la même chose... lol
😂
It's safe to say your other calling is investigative journalist and not just a commentator. I appreciate that this is adding another layer to an already complex situation.
Holy crap! You really levelled up with this video Jenn! You should be so proud!!! ❤
Maybe I’m alone in this. Twitter could go away and I would not miss it at all.
Quit three years ago…i miss some very nice people that I met, but basically it was the best decision I made that year.
The video quality and editing is so good! Jen, you're content just keeps getting better and better!
Couldn't agree more 👏
JUST 10 minutes in and WOW..to anyone who reads the comments.. this is more than Drama.. it starts with ALL how this Beauty Space that we all LOVE started.. Jen has found her calling on bringing us along ...ok going back to watch!!
I'm ready for parts 2, 3, 4 and 5. Take your time editing, I'll wait sit, patient and ready for it.
This was such a great interview. I love the openness and accountability he displayed. you are such a great interviewer, Jen. You have such a balance of creating an open environment, making it feel like a nonjudgmental conversation, but also diving deep and holding people accountable. I’d love to see more interviews like this ❤
“It’s not cancel culture it’s accountability culture.”
I only knew of Gabriel Zamora through the drama channel coverage, pleasantly surprised how well spoken, like able he is. I like the industry intel he shares, so interesting. Learned more from this than Shane’s “documentary”
OMG. Count on you Jen to get into the deepest depths. I can't wait for part 2!!! This is better than Netflix. Honestly.
I love how authentic he is. He has a pure soul and a big heart. Loving his energy, it’s so grounding. Great interview Jen!
I almost screamed when you said there were parts to this 😩😩😩😩😬😬😬. I can’t wait
The EDITING is next level , love the back and forth of then to now !!
I am UPSET THO … we need a part 2 drop ASAP 😂😩!!!!
Always a red flag when someone has lots of "ex friends"
that part 👏🏻 it’s only natural for people to come in and out of our lives. but i almost feel like how you talk about them is a little more of a reflection than how many there’s been. and then someone like jeffree, who all of his “ex friends” were just fine with each other. 🚩🚩🚩
Right?? I was like the common denominator in all these friendship breakdowns is Jeffree
How many is "a lot"? 🤔
And this is why Karina Kaboom still says, "let's keep it 100." I didn't know too much about Gabby until this drama unfolded, but I have liked him ever since. Thanks for this interview we didn't know we needed. Major W.
I absolutely LOVE Gabriel!! Even though he has a limited education, he’s so freakin intelligent, eloquent, and talented. Out of the 4, he’s most definitely the better person.
@@VeeMarieS limited education??? 🤨 mind elaborating!!
@ Gabriel said that he had to drop out of school early on. You wouldn’t think it though, because he seems very intelligent
Wow! You just raised the bar for any journalistic content creators. I have followed you from the very beginning and I am so proud of you! You are truly a breath of fresh with your honesty, empathy, and hard work. Thank you and keep it up!!
OMG, this video was excellent Jen. And the cliffhanger ending 👏👏👏.
Never see makeup ads. Cool seeing Bailey Sarian. Forget she was an ipsy girl. Had no idea swoop was a makeup girlie either before lol.
Look at you, Jen, steadily becoming the best makeup industry and community reporter on YT
SWOOOOOOOPPPPPP!!!! I was thinking it would be a dream collab for me if you interviewed them about all the Glam and Gore stuff - through this lens.
That would be awesome, but I doubt swoop would be willing to talk about it.
Yes
The fact that Gabriel ending up being OK with Jeffree’s racism is crazy to me. It says a lot of him.
You are an excellent interviewer! Looking forward to Part 2! ❤
I really love how you handle drama break downs in such a respectful and tasteful way
Out of all of this gabby has always been truthful. His was one of the most genuine.
Can't wait for Part 2, 3 and 4! I hope u post all 4 hours of ur chat with Gabriel.😅
Jen!!!!! Wow!!!! Mrs. Jen I am hooked❣ I can't wait to see part 2 😸
Jen! Thank you! This is fascinating! Impatiently waiting for part 2! I'm so glad you decided to do this! ❤
So happy to see this interview! Gabby was always my fave among these friend groups. I will never forget watching his apology video. He is a beautiful person and I am happy to see him doing well!
Every conversation I see with Gabriel, I dig him. Think he’s rad. Genuine and honest and showing growth in a way that we honestly want from people in the spotlight. But then I can’t get over his friendship with a man who harms black women and doesn’t support trans people having human rights and I cannot.
But I so enjoyed this and will tune in for the next segment.
Jen I am really loving these series type of content your producing. It goes without saying that it must be a lot of work but I for one want to say well done, excellent work ❤
This is so darn interesting!!! Can’t wait for part 2!!!!!
Love hearing things from a person's own account! Nicely done :)
I'm LOVING reliving everything!!! Thank you for these series
Jen this was beautifully done. I love your long form research content please keep these type of videos coming! Much love from another fellow Marylander ❤
Calling it now at 2.3k views…this video is gonna blow up
I don’t know who this guy is tbh but from what I can tell, he seems very self-aware and is really good at reading people. I wish him well even though I don’t know him lol
This was fascinating. Reliving "good" times hahahahaha. Honestly loved hearing his POV. He is so real. I totally get being a fighter when you have to look out for your family from young. Right there with you.
Jennnnnnnnnnnnnn! Your videos are so gooooooood! The editing, the content, your perspective, are all on point. I’m so impressed and proud of you!
Oh damn, the way I want part 2 right now. Ugh.
Changing my notifications to ALL! I can NOT wait for part 2!!! Loved this! 🫖
this ending on Gabriel calling Tati out onto the dance floor...... the beauty community just doesnt know how to handle people like him who are so authentically themselves and don't mind pointing out when people aren't doing the same. im the same kind of person, and started my own dramagedon in my family because of it, why do I feel so seen by him lmaoooo
This was great, Jen! Thank you! Gabriel seems genuine and kind, I hope he has better friends now😅
O.M.G!!!! THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT RUclips NEEDS RN!!!!
I met Gabriel once almost ten years ago at a West La party city. I didn't know who he was but he was so polite.
Incredible video Jen. With everything happening in this country right now I really needed a place to escape. Lots of love to you and your family ❤
Love this episode! I honestly like Gabriel a lot and have an immense amount of respect for him for the way he tells the truth because it’s, unfortunately, very rare with the majority larger influencers.
It's Dramageddeon because it was an Armageddon style event for creators on RUclips. It was the reason those of us who had been grandfathered into the partner program suddenly got kicked tf out, why EVERYONE had horrible cpm for so dang long, so that RUclips could do some serious damage control. And Dramageddeon 2 is why you can't see exact sub counts anymore, as well as why Socialblade doesn't show lifetime numbers anymore.
I hope Gabriel is doing well now. I feel for him ❤
Cmon Jenn 👏👏
I can’t thank you enough for this interview. LETS GO PART TWO!
💖 I found the beauty space during lockdown. I am ALL in wanting this info from before I joined. I love the REAL of it, instead of being fed a narrative. Thank you, Jen and Gabby. 💖
I didn’t even know about any of this until I watched your videos but I’m so hooked - it’s fascinating! Love Gabriel too, he seems really genuine and nice!😇
This was interesting, AF Jen ☕️🤗 btw you look exrta gorgeous when you're just sitting and taking in what people are saying, like, wow 🙌🔥
JS says he's the person who "tells it like it is" but I think that's his excuse to be nasty to people. Gabriel on the other hand does seem authentic/transparent even when taking accountability. People like G deserve bigger platforms than people like JS.
I need part deux like at this very minute, waiting with bated breath till the next one. Bravo!! 🗣️🗣️
Jenn this is SO well produced. Thank you for adding context for us all in terms of prior clips & history!!
I never watched his videos, but I have a new found appreciation for him. He seems wise beyond his years, and you can tell that did not mean for all of that to happen. He seems like a true and genuine good soul, and I wish him the best. I can't wait to watch the rest of this interview, BUT I'm glad you paused to do the update on Halo. Great sleuthing Jen. YOU ARE AMAZING!
Perfect timing Jen! I needed this! Hope everyone has a Blessed weekend!
Jen, have you ever thought about being a journalist? You are a fantastic interviewer and reasearcher.These stories that you have been doing on these people and all the facts and research are so accurate, interesting, and well put together. You are very articulate, well educated, and down to earth as well! Keep up the great work. I'm really enjoying these videos. And as always, I also enjoy everything else you do on this channel too! 😘👍
I love this new direction your channel is going these deep dives are so goood!!🥰😍
This is gonna be so good! Love Gabby!
I love these ! You are so good at telling the story.
Finally able to sit down a watch this! Bravo, Jen 👏👏 Can't wait for Part 2!
I love that you’re doing these videos!! Loved the James Charles series.
Wow, this video had me glued and wanting to know more and more......I cant wait for the next video. Jen this was next level quality, Bravo!
this is everything. thank you jen. thank you gabby. SOOOOO excited for part 2!!!!
So ready for all the subsequent parts! Thanks Jen and Gabriel ❤
Gabby Gabriel Zamora!!!!
I love him!!! He is so authentic & HUMAN! ❤️
So real thank you!!! ❤️🔥
Now THISSSSS is giving people what they want
We only see the tip of the iceberg. You are now showing us the whole iceberg. Great respect for your work and the way you handle this. Thank you!
I really love your videos Jen, and you're really levelling up here! I hope that Gabriel does mention how Jeffree and Nikita are both problematic in part 2 as I think it would be unfortunate to platform someone who doesn't see those things as a dealbreaker! Thanks for keeping us fed with such excellent content, Jen!
I was not ready for this video to end. I knew it was just part of a series, but I felt so bereft, like it was the world's biggest cliffhanger. Jen is so incredibly gifted.
Thank you so much for making this interview!! So much was going behind the scenes and Gabriel is very well spoken guy, very pleasant to listen to his side of the story.
Can't wait for part II!!!
I love how Gabriel has labelled his Alex drawers! Also, I still watch his apology video occasionally.
I can’t wait for the part 2🫣
I cannot WAIT for part 2!!!
I couldn’t click on this fast enough! I loved Gabriel and then lost touch. But I just adore him.
I forgot about "keep it a 100" 😅 my memories are flooding back!
I'm just getting to this video now. We'll done Jen. Really well done. I'm looking forward to part 2.
Jen Jen Jen……. This was FABULOUS!!! Love you, love Gabriel….this was 💯 a perfect match!
Whew I'm so in love with this extended series! ❤
Would genuinely love to know how Gabriel went from "I have personally heard racism from Jeffree Star's mouth" to "We had the funniest phone conversations! I thought it was cool to be in his campaign!"
Being "okay with" a bad person, makes you a bad person.
Jen out here giving the people what they want 🙌🏼 love this!
Off topic -- Angie Hot & Flashy just announced she is retiring from RUclips! Stoooooopid algorithm.
As a reminder, never look for videos from your subscriptions on the home page! Always go to you subscription tab.
Wow, he seems really down to earth, when I watched this from afar all these years ago I feel like they turned on him
When it was happening real time, it felt like they were turning on him.😞 Buncha snakes.
Jen really just surprised us with this! Well this certainly kept me entertained during the start of my work day!
This was so good! Thanks Jen & Gabriel! -xo
can't wait for part 2!