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  • Since none of this manure spreader was working, I'm figuring the puzzle out as I reconstruct it and the gears and sprockets all have to mesh properly. I overlooked a simple operating engagement gear and thought I had goofed. But I'm learning as I go. Thanks for coming along!
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Комментарии • 279

  • @BarryRudge
    @BarryRudge 3 месяца назад +78

    Victorian shop machinery was so well built as long as you do basic servicing and don't abuse them they will run for ever.

    • @paulmccool378
      @paulmccool378 3 месяца назад +8

      Dave's bandsaw looks like it was made around the same time as the ship saw owned by Leo Goolden, on the Sampson Boat Co. channel.

    • @ironcladranchandforge7292
      @ironcladranchandforge7292 3 месяца назад +3

      ​@@paulmccool378-- Both saws are great. That saw Leo has is simply amazing, but of course meant for specific tasks in the boat building trade. I would take Dave's saw though if I had a choice because it would be more practical for normal use.

    • @matthewmoilanen787
      @matthewmoilanen787 3 месяца назад +2

      Actually in all fairness that band saw wasn't in a shop it was in a factory that did production work of some sort. The home craftsman could never afford anything like that. So it's kinda like comparing apples and oranges it seems. If you look at new factory equipment it's not even close as to the quality, ease of use, lack of maintenance needed and accuracy that can be achieved. All that old equipment has clearances that a cat can be thrown through and things like babbit bearings. That simply wouldn't be done on production equipment now.

    • @Metal-Possum
      @Metal-Possum 3 месяца назад +5

      Only the good stuff lasted though... Plenty of old things were made poorly too and didn't survive, that's why we keep thinking old stuff was made better. It was however more expensive so we couldn't afford as much of it as we can now, so in 100 years time there's going to be lots of today's machinery in landfill just because there's a lot more of it in general.

    • @TController
      @TController 3 месяца назад

      Although Victorian era machinery was very well made, there was very little attention paid to the safety of the operators, or those moving close by the moving parts. Today, there would be guards / housings / fences, shielding any moving parts.

  • @mayforddavis9291
    @mayforddavis9291 3 месяца назад +51

    "Professor" Engels gives us another opportunity to learn. Always a pleasure to be invited along. God Bless you and Mrs. Engels.

  • @ozimerman111
    @ozimerman111 3 месяца назад +1

    Why all nuts are square?
    I enjoy your shows tremendously. Your shows are a place of peace.
    Thank you

  • @ulie1960
    @ulie1960 3 месяца назад +41

    and again it shows that it is a small small world we live in. You mentioned Keith Rucker and I just followed him restoring the 110 year old capstan for Tally Ho of Leo from the "Sampson Boat Co" channel. And I also got my dose of reality check when I was thinking working for 11 years at a 17 year old (at the time I started working with it) milling machine is odd. After those 11 years I changed into the tool coating department of the company (making those golden drillbits, taps and milling cutter) from were I retired after 30 years in that department. And I know that this milling machine is still in use beside all those CNC machinery of today.

    • @ironcladranchandforge7292
      @ironcladranchandforge7292 3 месяца назад +1

      Keith probably posted these videos on the capstan project one or two weeks after the work was done. I wonder if the capstan has made it to Leo yet? If so, we can probably expect a video from Leo soon. Of course he has to dismantle the capstan for paint, then install it on deck which will take time.

    • @wfran93023
      @wfran93023 3 месяца назад +1

      @@ironcladranchandforge7292 Leo has the capstan. Was hauled across the country "in record time".

    • @dbmail545
      @dbmail545 3 месяца назад

      I did not realize that was the same fellow. That was impressive work to motorize and rebuild the antique capstan.

  • @Marcus_Aurelius_1978
    @Marcus_Aurelius_1978 3 месяца назад +5

    Today on the program, manure spreader puzzle with Engels Coach Shop! Fascinating, I like it! Thanks for sharing your adventures with us!

  • @PendeltonWhiskey
    @PendeltonWhiskey 3 месяца назад +2

    She's a beauty! I can't wait to see her throwing manure!

  • @TheDistur
    @TheDistur 3 месяца назад +22

    I like seeing all the old mechanisms. There have always been some clever people.

  • @uniballoutlaw
    @uniballoutlaw 3 месяца назад +16

    I am not going to lie I giggled a little when you said "this board will help deter it coming from out the side" in my mind I heard "it de-Turd it from coming out the side"

    • @alvinsterk2918
      @alvinsterk2918 3 месяца назад

      Well it is a turd hurst 😂

    • @Crewsy
      @Crewsy 3 месяца назад

      I think that joke required an #dadjoke warning. 😉
      😂🤣

  • @brianmros4844
    @brianmros4844 3 месяца назад +15

    Hi Dave, and Diane, the old equipment always seems to be better than what we get today, as also displayed by your table saw. All the iron works on this spreader are amazing technology even compared to some of the things they throw at us today. I knew that you would figure out the gear works, and have confidence that this work perfectly upon completion, and maybe in time for the debates! Thank you for sharing, and thank you Diane for all of your awesome editing, and fast responses. Take care.

    • @ronmccabe7164
      @ronmccabe7164 3 месяца назад +6

      I think we are going to need a much bigger spreader for that.

    • @brianmros4844
      @brianmros4844 3 месяца назад +1

      @@ronmccabe7164 Amen Brother!

  • @c00lamah
    @c00lamah 3 месяца назад +4

    I feel so proud to watch that Professor Engles of the Joliet university of American wagons. I soooo enjoy your videos. Thank you.

  • @daviemaclean61
    @daviemaclean61 3 месяца назад +18

    Every day's a school day.
    When we did machine shop back in the day everyone used to rush to snag the newest lathes just because they were new. The older machines were just as good and simpler to use and understand

  • @talegunner115
    @talegunner115 3 месяца назад

    I love these old machines. I have a 1968 Powermatic 45 that I rebuilt from the ground up. Repainted it and brought it back from the dead. Way to go Professor!

  • @causewaykayak
    @causewaykayak 3 месяца назад +8

    Wrong gear ? ?
    There was a lesson there for all of us. Thanks for showing us.

  • @jayh1947
    @jayh1947 3 месяца назад +20

    You really are a true craftsman, Thank You for allowing us to come along....................Jay

  • @mrsbobbinlacer
    @mrsbobbinlacer 3 месяца назад +1

    Thank you for the new lesson it is always enjoyable to watch someone that is interested in there work.

  • @kyrg
    @kyrg 3 месяца назад +5

    Speaking for myself, next to the Borax wagons, this spreader is the most intriguing project I've seen you tackle.

    • @roberthumphrey1304
      @roberthumphrey1304 3 месяца назад +1

      I recently reviewed some Borax videos.
      My vote is the Borax wagons is your number one effort. This manure spreader is number 2.
      The buggies, wagons, coaches, and other horse-drawn equipment don't have the integrated mechanisms this spreader has.
      You are a true treasure of old school methods.

  • @Landrew0
    @Landrew0 3 месяца назад +12

    I've been fascinated with this spreader since day one,
    even at the expense of doing my chores.

  • @stephenrice4554
    @stephenrice4554 3 месяца назад

    Another fascinating episode of the manure spreader . Thanks Dave and Diane. 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

  • @mikeunum
    @mikeunum 3 месяца назад

    I love what i see. This is so important that this old know-how does not go away.

  • @gutsngorrrr
    @gutsngorrrr 3 месяца назад +7

    I'd much rather have a lovely old bandsaw like yours, thats lasted decades and will last many more compared to a lot of the junk nowadays.

  • @Jimo368
    @Jimo368 3 месяца назад +1

    The Ships saw that Sampson Boat Co used to build Tally Ho was truly impressive

  • @chrissometimes7473
    @chrissometimes7473 3 месяца назад

    That press you have seems to be one of the most useful tools in your workshop, although it certainly needs your skills to use it well. Another excellent video, as always. I always learn something useful from them, even if I'm NOT in the wagon trade!

  • @harveypost7799
    @harveypost7799 3 месяца назад +1

    Under ur tutelage I have learn much...sumtimes I'm actually a few steps ahead of you...cool

  • @Ironman-harmonica
    @Ironman-harmonica 3 месяца назад

    Restoration is always a learning process. Thanks for sharing, Dave

  • @ellisc.foleyjr9778
    @ellisc.foleyjr9778 3 месяца назад +3

    Hence the old Adage, "You can't see the Forest, for the trees". and once again you made me Drool! with that Hydraulic Press.! Man! I love that thing!. I just moan with excitement every time I see you use it. But at 81 yrs old I just can't justify looking for one not now anyway maybe someday!. Spreader is coming along, and looks just great! thanks for sharing! ECF.

  • @SPW812
    @SPW812 3 месяца назад

    I’ve never seen a cotter pin hold on with such tenacity.

  • @xhf8yxhf8y9
    @xhf8yxhf8y9 3 месяца назад +5

    The machine in your shop I am most impressed by this that press... and the fellow that operates it.

  • @Plan_it-Farm
    @Plan_it-Farm 3 месяца назад +2

    Ceases to blow my mind how ingenious the old machinery was. Mr Engels thank you for this content really is amazing.

  • @paulhammond7489
    @paulhammond7489 3 месяца назад

    Detective Engel's is close to solving another case by steadily piecing the many clues together.

  • @cyrilhudak4568
    @cyrilhudak4568 3 месяца назад +3

    Early 20th century alternative to the "Tight/Loose Pully" for gear drives. The gears are continuously engaged and the "dogs" do all the work.

  • @mfreund15448
    @mfreund15448 3 месяца назад +6

    Happy Tuesday Dave!

  • @chrischapel9165
    @chrischapel9165 3 месяца назад +2

    As a gunsmith I am always amazed at what I have overlooked.

  • @grahammorgan9635
    @grahammorgan9635 3 месяца назад

    Again Dave there are not any mysteries left in your shop at all, spreader is looking good.

  • @robhawthorne6892
    @robhawthorne6892 3 месяца назад +3

    Definitely, you can hear the old motor more than the new motor. You hear the old motor and then you hear the blade engaging the wood with the new motor.. 👍

  • @NiftyMCD_Australia
    @NiftyMCD_Australia 3 месяца назад +1

    Always fascinating watching the process and thinking behind how and why. Good stuff!

  • @eXactModellbau
    @eXactModellbau 3 месяца назад +1

    You are doing very well!

  • @darkhorsegarage9623
    @darkhorsegarage9623 3 месяца назад +4

    I’m a deaf guy and I am not surprised you did not think that noise was the motor. It’s just sounds like all the machinery together. The after is just the saw. Funny.

  • @dougc5366
    @dougc5366 3 месяца назад +2

    Busting out the fire. Can't be stuck if it's liquid. As always, love the videos, Dave.

  • @danielpullum1907
    @danielpullum1907 3 месяца назад

    Your press makes me green with envy. At my age I'm beginning to think about getting rid of tools instead of buying more. My press has always been the bench vice or the hammer and anvil...
    David your intuition is amazing. The gear works and the adjustments that have been necessary to make that ole spreader function.

  • @hank5655
    @hank5655 3 месяца назад

    Dave that bandsaw is a lot quieter but like you I would have thought it's just a noisy band saw. Thanks for sharing all of the information.

  • @blackbuttecruizr
    @blackbuttecruizr 3 месяца назад +1

    Interesting venture

  • @Mopar46
    @Mopar46 3 месяца назад +3

    Ingenious mechanism, considering the technology of the time. Very interesting.

  • @dennisclapp7527
    @dennisclapp7527 3 месяца назад +1

    Thanks Dave

  • @paulkoomen5262
    @paulkoomen5262 3 месяца назад +1

    Detective Engels great job Sir

  • @redrockplumber5124
    @redrockplumber5124 3 месяца назад +2

    So funny, I'll never miss all the extra noise!

  • @errolpoxleitner7901
    @errolpoxleitner7901 3 месяца назад +1

    Very good show.

  • @frenchcreekvalley
    @frenchcreekvalley 3 месяца назад +1

    Somebody sure stayed up late one night while designing that mechanism!

  • @pecarns
    @pecarns 3 месяца назад +1

    The lady arriving into town was a stranger to all except one man.
    The Horse-man-ure!

  • @pherdantler707
    @pherdantler707 3 месяца назад +3

    Here's hoping you get your manure speader done in time for lead up to the elections!! Great videos, thank you!

  • @phils6122
    @phils6122 3 месяца назад +1

    live and learn indeed!

  • @OldSkoolF
    @OldSkoolF 3 месяца назад

    The little pieces of steel you use to drive out the Cotter perfectly shows the "everything is a tool" logic..

  • @chrischapel9165
    @chrischapel9165 3 месяца назад +1

    What's interesting about mentioning Keith Rucker while he is working on his bandsaw, Rucker himself has just finished rebuilding a huge old bandsaw.

    • @VAXHeadroom
      @VAXHeadroom 3 месяца назад

      That bandsaw for Jimmy Diresta was just crazy. Keith did such a beautiful job with in down to the pin-striping. Jimmy has posted one video of it being used (so far).

  • @BQExionPro-h9u
    @BQExionPro-h9u 3 месяца назад +2

    Здравствуйте привет из Нижнего как хорошо всё отлично получается столько лет и все станки работают как новые дай вам и вашим близким здоровья да хранит господь удачи большое спасибо за ваше видео Нижний Новгород Юра

  • @reinholdhummler2459
    @reinholdhummler2459 3 месяца назад +1

    Great Job.

  • @rleeAZ
    @rleeAZ 3 месяца назад +1

    Dave, if someone reaches our age with all fingers intact, their tools are as safe as they need to be.

  • @robertb.seddon1687
    @robertb.seddon1687 3 месяца назад +1

    Very interesting!

  • @rogerkincaid4535
    @rogerkincaid4535 3 месяца назад +1

    You amaze me the way you bend-unbend rods and bars of metal and get it right. The spreader is looking great. Are you sure you want to use it? It 's so clean and new looking and to get it dirty would be a shame. Anyways, another great video and learning session.

  • @ronnie100393
    @ronnie100393 3 месяца назад +2

    Your knowledge can only be described as AMAZING. Thanks for all your videos of the OLD WEST !!!!!!!!!!

  • @arkansas1336
    @arkansas1336 3 месяца назад

    Project is looking great!

  • @kevinreardon2558
    @kevinreardon2558 3 месяца назад +1

    Another fine show. You might want to put the bend back into that part so the lower gear does not disengage from the larger gear while under stress of moving that much BS .

  • @tinydancer7426
    @tinydancer7426 3 месяца назад +1

    I hope you include th.e manufacturing of the clip in video. I am always intrigued by metal smithing

  • @billschmitzer9159
    @billschmitzer9159 3 месяца назад +3

    Thanks again for the interesting and informative video. There’s always something new to learn and understand.

  • @aserta
    @aserta 3 месяца назад +3

    4:19 had this problem myself with a lathe. It had always been noisy, which (because the motor is internal to the lathe) had always kept me in fear of some sort of gear train issue. I checked, double checked ... nada, nothing. It's a stout lathe. One day, i took out the motor to clean the bottom tray and did some cleanup on the motor too. Quiet. Not a single peep from it. At first i thought i'd burnt it, until i engaged the gear. I don't even know what the noise was, but the motor is now smoothly running and all i did was cleanup some of the gunk and replaced one of the phase wires. Motors can be weird like that.

  • @johneken2056
    @johneken2056 3 месяца назад +32

    My dad and me rebuilt an old 14" Delta/ Milwaukee bandsaw in the '60s. New bearings, tires and motor. Every time I use it, it brings a smile.

  • @Cheggley45
    @Cheggley45 3 месяца назад

    It is a pleasure to watch you work Dave. The mechanical wheels on this spreader are not the only wheels at work. I appreciate you spending the time with us as you work through each challenge. My dad was raised on a farm with four other brothers and they had to fix a lot of equipment to keep things running with their dad who was born in 1876! Horses did all the work until after WWII!

  • @simsapot
    @simsapot 3 месяца назад +2

    Dave, have to reclassify you to “Genius Magician “, watched you magically turn mangled pieces of iron into a working mechanism, pure freak’n magic!

  • @lawrencecarlson2425
    @lawrencecarlson2425 3 месяца назад +8

    I've seen a bandsaw blade break and come off the wheels. You don't want it near your hands when it does. After that, I became a firm believer in safety shrouds.

  • @IAmTheShaz
    @IAmTheShaz 3 месяца назад +1

    Thanks for the comparison between the old and new bandsaw motors. It is substantially quieter now with the new motor.

  • @AndrewArndts
    @AndrewArndts 3 месяца назад +4

    Dave, I thinking that with that new motor, yours is even quieter than my RIkon 10" that I purchased couple of years ago.

  • @clarencegreen3071
    @clarencegreen3071 3 месяца назад

    A bunch of us at the local airport were admiring the work of a local fellow who was building a slick, high-performance airplane. This involved mechanics, fiberglass, electrical stuff, and the whole works. Somebody said, that sure is a lot of work. The response from the builder was, "Yeah, and you can't see it just by looking at it." I get the same impression from watching this project. Well done!

  • @KennDungate
    @KennDungate 3 месяца назад

    Amazing detective work. Looking forward to seeing it working Kdd

  • @terryrogers1025
    @terryrogers1025 3 месяца назад

    Well sir, if anybody can get it puzzled out, you would be the guy to do it. Nice job. Your band saw with Babbitt bearings, they are a real sweet bearing system as long as they are maintained. I was at one time involved in pouring and machining those types of bearing, the biggest bearing I have poured were 6” ID bearing for electric motors, they had cast iron housing. They were pressurized bearing meaning when the start switch was hit it would delay the motor start for a few seconds so the oil could be pressurized to lift the motor shaft some then as it started rotating the theory was the shaft would continually run on a film of oil, those motors did run very smooth and were high speed motors. Thanks for the update, enjoyed watching.

  • @andrewjones1649
    @andrewjones1649 3 месяца назад +1

    I'm speechless with wonder.
    Dave, you're a wonder. 😊

  • @countryboyscooter3402
    @countryboyscooter3402 3 месяца назад

    Any young man would be blessed to learn from you! An apprentice would gain years of knowledge from you! Love your dedication to detail, nuts and screws all turned the same direction. I guarantee that spreader wasn't that well built when new.✌️❤️🤘🇺🇸

  • @daftDAFdriver
    @daftDAFdriver 3 месяца назад +1

    Square D is the switch maker !👍

  • @iamfubar1
    @iamfubar1 3 месяца назад

    Tunnel vision...yup...we all get it every now and then...I certainly have with my specialty of electronics :)

  • @richardedkins8856
    @richardedkins8856 3 месяца назад +1

    Great video. Thanks a lot.

  • @gordbaker896
    @gordbaker896 3 месяца назад +1

    The gear teeth are really worn on one side on that smallest gear . Great job assembling and figuring it out.

  • @brucemitchell9166
    @brucemitchell9166 3 месяца назад +1

    Thanks again, Dave & Diane. Another very interesting journey.
    Cheers👍

  • @Metal-Possum
    @Metal-Possum 3 месяца назад

    That saw ticks along like a sewing machine. 😁

  • @richardbrobeck2384
    @richardbrobeck2384 3 месяца назад

    That is a beautiful bandsaw I have a Delta 14inch that is about 30 years old !

  • @massoud999
    @massoud999 3 месяца назад

    In one word: amazing. 👏

  • @darrellbedford4857
    @darrellbedford4857 3 месяца назад

    It's interesting that it took many years to find out the bandsaw noise was from the motor. It is usual for us to accept any and all noise from a purchase of a used machine,until something goes wrong. Also I believe that any university archeological department would be honoured to have Dave in their Colonial and Victorian era sections. Keep up the fantastic work Dave.

  • @AB8Y_radio
    @AB8Y_radio 3 месяца назад

    Sounds like you need a few "Warning this machine predates safety" stickers

  • @mikecunningham5686
    @mikecunningham5686 3 месяца назад

    Fascinating! Thank you!

  • @paulkramer4176
    @paulkramer4176 3 месяца назад +3

    I thought that saw was a Silver. Yeah, they didn't use guards that often back then. Truth is a bandsaw is not as likely to hurt you as table saw. if the band breaks, then it generally stops moving in less than a second. That said, if you move your arm into the way of the blade, it will cut you. But of course even if there WERE guards, that section of blade that is cutting, can still be what gets you if you lose focus and aren't careful.
    Looks like there is a bit of play in that drive wheel also Dave, which probably is the majority of the noise you still hear. Note how the motor goes up and down? That pulley is not centered. What speed is the motor? I have a Tannewitz 30", 3 hp 980 rpm. I use a VFD inverter to obtain the 3 phase. Nice thing on that is that you can vary the speed of the saw. Doesn't sound important but often certain speeds impose harmonics and make for vibration. Having it adjustable really helps in that.

  • @CraigLYoung
    @CraigLYoung 3 месяца назад +1

    Thanks for sharing 👍

  • @daniellarrivee-ic3lg
    @daniellarrivee-ic3lg 3 месяца назад +1

    Thanks to you Mr. and Ms Engel

  • @glencrandall7051
    @glencrandall7051 3 месяца назад +1

    A thing of beauty, recreated by a master.🙂🙂

  • @Crewsy
    @Crewsy 3 месяца назад +1

    It’s sometimes surprising how much we become accustomed to something that changes gradually despite being very aware of changes that others don’t hear.
    A prime example is hearing something different in your vehicle that someone else doesn’t notice.
    As for how dangerous your bandsaw is Dave. It’s not anymore dangerous than my 14” bandsaw because anyone using it should know not to put their hands into the spinny bits that all newer (than yours) have covered. My blade is still just as exposed as yours when I’m cutting.

  • @andrewnaylor3965
    @andrewnaylor3965 3 месяца назад +1

    wonderful deductibility (:

  • @flywayhome8903
    @flywayhome8903 3 месяца назад +1

    Once again thanks for the video.

  • @Page5framing
    @Page5framing 3 месяца назад +1

    The same thing that happened to your band saw happens to me every time I change a motor or the capacitor on my air compressor. If it starts to get super noisy I know it’s time to service it.

  • @gwharton68
    @gwharton68 3 месяца назад +1

    Antique iron is always the best.

  • @mikedarr6968
    @mikedarr6968 3 месяца назад

    I can only dream of having a bandsaw as good as yours, but my 14" saw is my Most used power tool in my shop I also us carbide blades. They are the Best.

  • @DavidSellars-b8l
    @DavidSellars-b8l 3 месяца назад +3

    All the guards and fluff do not necessarily make a machine safer. The best safety device is a careful operator. Yeah, yeah, you still get hurt if you aren't being careful but at least you can see the moving parts and your proximity to them.
    Dave, do you take pictures of these basket cases as well as the videos? They are a help but I never seem to have just the one that would help the most.

  • @larrykelly2838
    @larrykelly2838 3 месяца назад +1

    It's going to work just fine.

  • @gregorymacneil2836
    @gregorymacneil2836 3 месяца назад +2

    Fascinating video and project. Great Job.

  • @ddblairco
    @ddblairco 3 месяца назад +1

    thank you

  • @johnb5461
    @johnb5461 3 месяца назад +1

    That saw would make even less noise if you trued it up and balanced it to get rid of the vibration. i know they work but i would put a guard over just it in case a blade breaks, at least there would be some control of where the blade goes.