Roland Brown wrote for Cycleworld on march 9th: My only real criticism of the 790’s power train is that didn’t particularly like slow speeds at steady throttle opening-the fuel system seemed to be hunting slightly for the right delivery. This wasn’t remotely annoying when briefly riding through a few sleepy Spanish villages, but might be more so on a city commute.
I don’t have any idea about bikes but I love watching RJ videos, I have seen many of Daily Observations and I freakin love them. And I also have learn some good things from his videos and it’s good to know the bikers are nice with each other specially with the other bikers.
They had to cut down on costs somewhere... its one hell of a deal for the technology they put into this thing anyways. They probably produced like a million of them in 2007 or so and have to get rid of them now haha
It's once because of costs but in the First place because of them having to many of thous Mirrors laying around everywhere and just wanting to get rid of them.
@royaljordanian would you rather have this or the 701 vitpilen?
6 лет назад
That hunt & surge at no-load speeds is the main problem I have on my 2019 Duke 390. It's a that-grin-on-your-face bike everytime you twist the throttle, alas the bike has difficulty in keeping the same speed in city traffic.. I always thought it's somewhat inherent characteristics of the single-cylinder motor.
8:13 RJ, is there any way to solve the issue of hunting (ECU reflash, for instance)? I'd buy this as my daily commuter, so that'd be a pretty serious problem to have...
Do you still own it though? i still have my 2018, then again i dont live in london and can use most of the power so fuelling I've never thought to be an issue, it adds character and for town you just put it in street mode and its fine. I would like to try the 890 more spec'd out version.
I know I am a bit one-sided cause I already bought the 790 and yeah it s a great bike so far but it s a bike which wasn't build for the city, but you'r right thats a point if you want to ride in the city. And one the best parts is the stock exhaust!
Sounds like a great bike, RJ, although I hope it doesn't remove the Nuda from my viewing! Thanks for the scrupulously frank and detailed feedback on the 790. I'm sure they'll be aftermarket fixes for the lean hunt/surge issue, but it goes to show that you can't really trust the journos to be completely accurate as their ad-revenue depends on glossing over the drawbacks.
I think 44teeth did mentions some surging at low speed when they went through town in Gran Canaria. All in all pretty positive opinions on the bike from all the reviews I have read and watched!
I am using JBL headphones and the quality of the exhaust sound is little bit muddy, but is very nice and deep sound, i must hear it in person so i can compare it better. Thank you for the video.
Ace review. The thrum sound is lovely, no doubt more decibels will improve it. That fueling issue, could be an excuse to ignore the 790 at least for a few months. Shame emission tests are still charades where certain road/rev speeds means ktm have probably tuned in troughs for it to pass.
I was planning on buying a new 390 Duke when i have my A2 license, but now im in doubt if u should wait and go for the Duke 790 when I have my unrestricted license.
Woask hmm wouldnt go with a z650 dont like the bike at all. Yea I know the L version only has 95hp when unrestricted but Im sure your dealer will trade it in for a normal 790 when you get your A license
Woask KTM does its A2 restrictions by loading a different fueling map to a bike. So you will get that full low end power. That is a much better way to restrict a bike than limiting throttle movement.
hi guys, just wondering, i love riding but i never really know where to go, just wondered if anyone of you knows of an app or website that tells you about great rides or amazing riding roads ?
Hey RJ, why do you need to switch modes to see the fuelling? Isnt there a regular fuelgeuge or what ever? I ride an Hornet 600 1999, so i have no fuelgauge at all >.
I don't know about you but I can clearly see RJ's left thumb and the indicator switch throughout most of the video. Feel free to show me where uses the indicators once, amongst all that traffic.
Great review RJ and that 790 sounds incredible (considering it's stock!)Sadly here in the states my local dealer tells me it won't be available for at least several more months.Looking forward to your continuing review of this machine.Nice work brother and many blessings.
RJ your spot on, the fueling at 30 to 40 is awful, however The dealer where I rode one said the AKRO may sort this out, so I’m waiting for it to be fitted to there demo bike, keep the good work up, see u around town cheers.
RoyalJordanian great Bike other than that, maybe they will issue a revised fueling map with the AKA, like Aprilia do on the Tuono 1100 V4 Factory, if the fueling could be sorted it would be my every day commuter, in stead of my 1290 Super Adv S 😃
Great video Very informative. Question on the fueling I would be doing a lot of low speed commuting. In nyc. From 1-10. 1 would be a street triple with perfect fueling. 10 would be say a Fz09 with shit fueling. Where would you put this bike. I really love the bike but. I really hate Poor fueling on bikes
Never rode the two bikes you mentioned, you need to try it for yourself. It's not terrible but it depends on you, I'm over sensitive to fuelling issues, others may not be.
My only question is Why does it need to change betwwen Street and Track mode to be able to see the fuel range? Or am i getting it wrong? cheers from a duke125 fan :)
Hey RJ been a fan of your videos for quite a while now. You seem to get your hands on some of my favourite motorcycles. Just two questions how does it compare to the post 2015 Duke 690s seeing that you loved that too? I personally right now wouldn’t see myself upgrading to this. Should i?
Everyone is different and many people judge a bike by the specs, nothing gives you a better impression than a ride and the feeling the bike transmits through the seat/bars/pegs. To me, those first impressions are extremely important, It's almost like I don't want a bike that grows on me, I want a bike that impresses me from the get go.
Thanks for the response, that is a pretty damn good way to look at things!! One thing that i do really respect and love about KTM though is that they are always looking/willing to innovate and improve (essentially what won me over to the brand). Hopefully will get to try the 790 someday
Road E Commuting is just a general term to mean his movement/travel to work or any other matters. Filtering means to go through narrow spaces between vehicles in traffic
"Commuting" is travelling to and from your workplace. This video is a section of RJ's travel to work in the morning, so he is commuting to work by bike. "Filtering" is riding a bike in the gaps between lanes of traffic. RJ does this a lot because it's much faster that sitting in the traffic.
Commuting is when you go from Point A to B most likely Home - Work and back! Filtering is escaping traffic between cars or around them (not staying on traffic being simple lol). hope you understand :)
Commuting is, travel some distance between one's home and place of work on a regular basis and Filtering is moving through traffic when stopped! Two very separate things. Hope this helps.
Thank you for all the explanation my friend.very kind to answer my silly question. now i know the deference.. God blessed you all my friend.. Regards.. :)
does anyone consider this safe riding? I am curious as i ride like this as well but watching it and putting myself in a cops mind, is this weaving between cars considered slightly reckless or is this a safe way for everyone on the road?
Everybody outside his house takes certain and uncertain risks. When you display a really constant 360° awareness, you mostly can react in time. Important is not to get distracted by non-related things. Filtering demands very high awareness, but is doable, as RJ proves for a number of years now. Enjoy and ride safe.
This bike sounds awesome even with the stock system!
Renegade imagine with a ixrace mk2
That Off-throttle sound !!!
Ibrahim Adouni crackle-crackle
Roland Brown wrote for Cycleworld on march 9th: My only real criticism of the 790’s power train is that didn’t particularly like slow speeds at steady throttle opening-the fuel system seemed to be hunting slightly for the right delivery. This wasn’t remotely annoying when briefly riding through a few sleepy Spanish villages, but might be more so on a city commute.
Such an beautiful sounding motorcycle
That 790 looks and sounds fantastic!
Amazing how your speedo blurs out when you drive fast 🤔
Yea, neat feature isn't it?
I thought I was the only one to notice haha
Yet it’s pointless doing it because of the line markings on the road 😂
The hunting and surging is the same in the Duke 390. I just had to use the clutch to smooth out the ride at low speeds especially when filtering.
sounds lovely on the over run !
I have same feeling with gears, works very smooth but you dont't feel it, and it's easy to miss neutral for the first time
The little pops on engine braking sound nice, reminds me of your S1000R
I just realised this video is from 2018? The new 790 (2023) supposedly has fueling issues worked out, but good review and summary!
I don’t have any idea about bikes but I love watching RJ videos, I have seen many of Daily Observations and I freakin love them. And I also have learn some good things from his videos and it’s good to know the bikers are nice with each other specially with the other bikers.
Thats going to be a killer engine in the off-road 790R too...can’t wait
ktm motorcycles look amazing but those mirrors make me cringe so many better designs could have been used.
They had to cut down on costs somewhere... its one hell of a deal for the technology they put into this thing anyways. They probably produced like a million of them in 2007 or so and have to get rid of them now haha
You've got my thumb up on that , absolutely horrendous ( like most stock mirrors on naked bikes nowadays )
I kinda like them, better than the circle ones that other bikes have :)
People who can afford a big bike like the Dukes always get aftermarket mirrors anyways
It's once because of costs but in the First place because of them having to many of thous Mirrors laying around everywhere and just wanting to get rid of them.
I’ve already put down a deposit on 790 duke! I’ll getting it around may can’t wait!
I’m thinking to get this or a street triple for my A2... decisions decisions
xBundem in germany a street triple isnt a2 conform.. What s up with the z900?
hagekorn 1 There are some euro spec street triple which fit A2 category also triumph have made a street triple which is 660cc and is made for A2
790 duke of course....
@royaljordanian would you rather have this or the 701 vitpilen?
That hunt & surge at no-load speeds is the main problem I have on my 2019 Duke 390. It's a that-grin-on-your-face bike everytime you twist the throttle, alas the bike has difficulty in keeping the same speed in city traffic.. I always thought it's somewhat inherent characteristics of the single-cylinder motor.
i'ts the characteristics of the emission standards. EC
U remap might help
Its therapeutic to watch you filter through london's traffic sometimes. You just do it so perfectly lol. Great video.
RJ's motorcycle noises are spot on!!! TAKATAKATAKA!
Two words... Freaking awesome!
Thanks for the review RJ - as always, your videos are brilliant, and second to none.
8:13 RJ, is there any way to solve the issue of hunting (ECU reflash, for instance)? I'd buy this as my daily commuter, so that'd be a pretty serious problem to have...
Do you still own it though? i still have my 2018, then again i dont live in london and can use most of the power so fuelling I've never thought to be an issue, it adds character and for town you just put it in street mode and its fine. I would like to try the 890 more spec'd out version.
Does KTM do ECU patches to fix the fueling problem? Damn I hope this fixed by the time it comes to the US. :(
Pops and cracks the whole time you let of the throttle
Stefanos Gorgis Imagine with a aftermarket exhaust...
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I know I am a bit one-sided cause I already bought the 790 and yeah it s a great bike so far but it s a bike which wasn't build for the city, but you'r right thats a point if you want to ride in the city. And one the best parts is the stock exhaust!
Hi RoyalJordanian, sorry can you pls be more specific about the fueling. "It hunts and searches" what does that mean? Thanks in advance!
I hope to have it as a second bike I tried less than 30 minutes and it was pure love ... great job RJ
it's like snap, crackle and pop are sitting in the exhaust.
Thanks for the vid. Please can we see the old DT 360 again some time?
Sounds like a great bike, RJ, although I hope it doesn't remove the Nuda from my viewing! Thanks for the scrupulously frank and detailed feedback on the 790. I'm sure they'll be aftermarket fixes for the lean hunt/surge issue, but it goes to show that you can't really trust the journos to be completely accurate as their ad-revenue depends on glossing over the drawbacks.
Will be interesting to hear a de-dated and pipe sound. Sounds similar to the nuda kinda
Sounds awesome for stock. Almost like the SDR..almost.
I think 44teeth did mentions some surging at low speed when they went through town in Gran Canaria. All in all pretty positive opinions on the bike from all the reviews I have read and watched!
That stock exhaust sound awesome!!! This is 100% the bike that I'm going to by asasp
I'm French and i love your videos ! Continue !
There’s a building at 1:43 that RJ often goes past that somehow looks like the back end of an ocean liner.
It’s called The Ark.
Ed van Andel thanks
I am using JBL headphones and the quality of the exhaust sound is little bit muddy, but is very nice and deep sound, i must hear it in person so i can compare it better.
Thank you for the video.
This 'hunting and searching' you mentioned. Is this about fuel management and delivery? Is it a jerky ride because its trying to be fuel efficient?
Thanks RJ it sounds great too
Love how you block off your speed when you're going over the speed limit. Keep up the good work RJ!
Why dont ktm change the mirrors they are using the same for all the duke series starting from 125cc
praveen yenda Even the supermotos have these, luckily I changed them
KTM do make some awesome bikes don't they. For me personally RJ your Superduke is your best bike, I love it!
Ktm are notorious for running lean, I fitted a rapid bike easy on my 390 duke and it helped smooth out a lot of that mess.
Stock exhaust ! ?? 😴😍👌
Yes it is!
Ace review. The thrum sound is lovely, no doubt more decibels will improve it. That fueling issue, could be an excuse to ignore the 790 at least for a few months. Shame emission tests are still charades where certain road/rev speeds means ktm have probably tuned in troughs for it to pass.
And, where do you mount your microphone when you rode this bike? Was it strapped to the exhaust? The sound is very meaty.
awesome video . can you do a review on the cb125r exmotion
Should i get one as my first bike?
you were in the some chat gus ali from indonesia?
I was planning on buying a new 390 Duke when i have my A2 license, but now im in doubt if u should wait and go for the Duke 790 when I have my unrestricted license.
Woask why not buy the 790 as a A2 bike?
Because the A2 version of the 790 has less power when unrestricted.
Im wondering how this compares to the Kawa Z650.
Woask hmm wouldnt go with a z650 dont like the bike at all. Yea I know the L version only has 95hp when unrestricted but Im sure your dealer will trade it in for a normal 790 when you get your A license
Woask KTM does its A2 restrictions by loading a different fueling map to a bike. So you will get that full low end power. That is a much better way to restrict a bike than limiting throttle movement.
Rj, I,ve got the 2017 390 duke and in town 3rd gear 35mph, it’s shite......
Why haven't you added a cruiser motorcycle to your collection?
hi guys, just wondering, i love riding but i never really know where to go, just wondered if anyone of you knows of an app or website that tells you about great rides or amazing riding roads ?
Try Routeyou.com. Thousands of rides/tours.
Wanna see you on 390!
I didn't understand the fueling and hunting and searching, can someone explain that please?
Is it having a up/down auto blipper? please let me know.
Which do you prefer, the Husqvarna 900 or the Ktm 790?
Omg how can a stock exhaust sound sooooo gooooood!! 😍😍
Nice video! :O What action camera do you use? Looking for one for my road legal quad bike helmet :D.. Thanks!
How do you make GoPro footage so sharp even in that cloudy weather? 🤔 Mine looks like its 480p even if i play with it in premiere pro
Hey RJ, why do you need to switch modes to see the fuelling? Isnt there a regular fuelgeuge or what ever?
I ride an Hornet 600 1999, so i have no fuelgauge at all >.
Thx for your description and impressions. Cheers from VA.
Hey RJ tell us about your experience on KTM Duke 790
For the standard exhaust that sounds lovely, almost dare i say, Nudaesque, like you say with aftermarket pipe it should be epic!
Sounds awesome for a stock pipe!
Do you not have to use indicators on a motorcycle in London ever?
Of course, but the movement of a thumb is not always visible...
I don't know about you but I can clearly see RJ's left thumb and the indicator switch throughout most of the video. Feel free to show me where uses the indicators once, amongst all that traffic.
how does every bike you ride sound so extremely nice and loud cause you only have the standard exhaust on the 790 right?
Because that's how they originally sound, all the others you see use crap action cam audio
Do you know if there's any remapping to fix the fuelling that goes on when they add an Akra pipe?
Am I missing something about 2:40 or is that legal to use the right turn only lane to overtake and continue going straight?
Nothing to indicate no over taking, plus it was a safe overtake - all legal.
Great review RJ and that 790 sounds incredible (considering it's stock!)Sadly here in the states my local dealer tells me it won't be available for at least several more months.Looking forward to your continuing review of this machine.Nice work brother and many blessings.
RJ your spot on, the fueling at 30 to 40 is awful, however The dealer where I rode one said the AKRO may sort this out, so I’m waiting for it to be fitted to there demo bike, keep the good work up, see u around town cheers.
Doubt it, it can actually make it worse, the only way it will sort out with an Akra is if you put a PCV and tune on a dyno
RoyalJordanian great Bike other than that, maybe they will issue a revised fueling map with the AKA, like Aprilia do on the Tuono 1100 V4 Factory, if the fueling could be sorted it would be my every day commuter, in stead of my 1290 Super Adv S 😃
Great video Very informative. Question on the fueling I would be doing a lot of low speed commuting. In nyc. From 1-10. 1 would be a street triple with perfect fueling. 10 would be say a Fz09 with shit fueling. Where would you put this bike. I really love the bike but. I really hate Poor fueling on bikes
Never rode the two bikes you mentioned, you need to try it for yourself. It's not terrible but it depends on you, I'm over sensitive to fuelling issues, others may not be.
Should I get this as my first bike?
Is that stock exhaust if so that sounds awesome from the mic
Is the popping sound the exhaust or the mic?
x d good question
It’s the exhaust
Hello RJ. Can you compare it to the Nuda? How is the power delivery, ride quality and comfort?
Hows the D790 compared to other twins...MT 07 mate ??? ;D ;)) ;)
Why did you blurred the panel ?
Hi RJ, did u have the chance to test the BMW G310R? It's a fun bike just wanted to know ur opinion
If the opportunity arrises, I will.
Really love the KTM’s, just wish they’d put some nice mirrors on from factory! They just look too boxy
I want a new bike but I’m slow to lose my ninja. I don’t know where to go next. More research needed. Test drives it is.
My only question is Why does it need to change betwwen Street and Track mode to be able to see the fuel range? Or am i getting it wrong? cheers from a duke125 fan :)
Checking the fuelling has nothing to do with fuel range. It's the way the engine management manages the fuel to air ratio at certain RPM.
Oh ok, thats great, didnt know they had that option! Ty
Hey RJ been a fan of your videos for quite a while now. You seem to get your hands on some of my favourite motorcycles. Just two questions how does it compare to the post 2015 Duke 690s seeing that you loved that too? I personally right now wouldn’t see myself upgrading to this. Should i?
Everyone is different and many people judge a bike by the specs, nothing gives you a better impression than a ride and the feeling the bike transmits through the seat/bars/pegs. To me, those first impressions are extremely important, It's almost like I don't want a bike that grows on me, I want a bike that impresses me from the get go.
Thanks for the response, that is a pretty damn good way to look at things!! One thing that i do really respect and love about KTM though is that they are always looking/willing to innovate and improve (essentially what won me over to the brand). Hopefully will get to try the 790 someday
What happened with the Zero test ride?, i'm looking forward for it.
due to lack of my time, it will happen Mid may when I get back from my next tour.
what does fueling stand for?
Is this the original exhaust? nice sound
Yes.
Nice video tnx alot now i need to know about 790 duke vs mt 09 2018
Is that an aftermarket exhaust on there now then? There's no way it's popping and blipping like that with a euro 4 stock can on it?
Standard
RoyalJordanian Standard can? Damn
3:00 switching to hyper-loop mode to see how many people it hasnt got to work.
why do u guys have that zigzag lines on the road.????? what does that mean.????
Can anybody explain the different betwen commuting and filtering...please..
I realy apriciate for the answer..
Regards from jakarta indonesia.. :)
Road E Commuting is just a general term to mean his movement/travel to work or any other matters. Filtering means to go through narrow spaces between vehicles in traffic
"Commuting" is travelling to and from your workplace. This video is a section of RJ's travel to work in the morning, so he is commuting to work by bike.
"Filtering" is riding a bike in the gaps between lanes of traffic. RJ does this a lot because it's much faster that sitting in the traffic.
Commuting is when you go from Point A to B most likely Home - Work and back! Filtering is escaping traffic between cars or around them (not staying on traffic being simple lol). hope you understand :)
Commuting is, travel some distance between one's home and place of work on a regular basis and Filtering is moving through traffic when stopped! Two very separate things. Hope this helps.
Thank you for all the explanation my friend.very kind to answer my silly question.
now i know the deference..
God blessed you all my friend..
Regards.. :)
Oh what a lovely town, if compared to my town, though
RJ, what is your opinion on speeding and speed limits?
Nobody filters like RJ
does anyone consider this safe riding? I am curious as i ride like this as well but watching it and putting myself in a cops mind, is this weaving between cars considered slightly reckless or is this a safe way for everyone on the road?
Everybody outside his house takes certain and uncertain risks. When you display a really constant 360° awareness, you mostly can react in time. Important is not to get distracted by non-related things. Filtering demands very high awareness, but is doable, as RJ proves for a number of years now.
Enjoy and ride safe.
So clean and refreshing.
Are you still happy with this bike?
which exhaust is this? Yoshimura?