_bare minimum_ draw cards shouldn't be able to draw themselves. needing _two_ zero cost draw cards and a zero cost attack is _still_ an extremely easy infinite.
@Retromation absolutely agree; first time I won with max it took me getting 6 copies of quick-think B (0 mana draw 2, events are fun) and even then i barely got away with it because of some sloppy deckbuiding choices
yeah lol he removed the basic shot just after musing about how a zero cost attack would be infinite its like bud you already had it just an upgrade away!
I love how in each run there's just a little bit of character and plot progression, not even in the form of memories, but things like Books or Max talking with Cat
I think it has something to do with the "win 10 times" achievement ship- sort of how you have to beat Mom's Heart/It Lives a bunch of times to go further in Isaac
Riggs+Max are my favorite combination. Either has infinite potential by themselves, but they can synergize together so it's basically guranteed that youll get offered an infinite combo so long as you prioritize a thin enough deck.
The way the cards seem to be discarded before they trigger their effects, thus letting Draw cards potentially draw themselves is certainly an interesting choice.
I tried Isaac in Jupiter as you suggested and got Drone Piercer, which justifies an Isaac slot even if you never take any of his cards. Attack Drone in the starting deck still feels bad, though.
Yup, the artifacts are nuts. You can just consider attack drone an easy card removal, which is honestly a win-win to have such an easy card to trim for thin decking.
Isaac feels alot better when you lean completely into him, if you pick good support for him he can completely take over the battle, I suggest running with riggs and either drake, peri, and dizzy as your last pick
Im still looking forward to Isaac on the Gemini. I thought it would be a first pick, because you can launch two drones on the same turn without any dodge or midrow slide... I also cant help imagining double upgraded astroids filling the entire middle lol
Isaac and Riggs with Books can get you ‘free’ attacks which can get multiplied… plus drawing from crystals can let you get a one turn fleet with some planning
Parry is only one of the many ways to do it, you can also do it using exclusively riggs cards to do a similar deck cycling build and then use charge beam to 1 shot the boss, or you can do a deck cycling run and just use 0 cost damage cards like the wave beams or easier the basic shot after upgrading it, you can also beat the shop keeper using the jupiter ship to pump out a jupiter drone, then use anything that lets you draw and itll give you another jupiter drone, repeat till you have 3 or 4 of them out then hand cannon or parry to 1 shot
Not sure if you have learned, but status can include movement, shield, etc also. Which in my opinion makes that gain additional status card "boost" much worse depending on the deck. You can't save the boost for good stuff you want to duplicate because boost gets eaten by gaining shield or movement.
"Shield and Temp Shield are no longer considered statuses. Mechanically, the only impact of this is that Boost’s “add X to your next status” will not be added to Shield or Temp Shield" from some recent patch notes. I wonder if evade is still considered
I encourage you to scroll through the video and count all the times after zone 1 that I was missing not only 1, but _2_ hull, and then reply to this comment how you feel about the decision. Healing is the choice you take in a roguelike when you're either new at the game, bad at the game, or losing really bad. None were relevant. These are the kind of trap choices you need to avoid if you want to become better at roguelikes. You have to take risks. You need strength over safety in order to scale.
I definitely need to unlock Max as quickly as possible. I've only gotten to Drake so far. I'm thinking Riggs, Isaac and Max. With Isaac I can get the brokenly OP Jupiter drones on any ship to multiply damage, and with hand cannon from Riggs and Math.Max to draw ten extra cards, I might even be able to oneshot Cleo. (Perri, Max and Isaac would probably be better though...)
When i noticed draw cards can put itself in hand and there is 0 mana draw two, I knew infinity is definitely possible. I just didn't expect it to be so easy to achieve.
Max especially combod with Riggs is basically guaranteeing youll get offered an infinite combo, you just need to prioritize thinning the deck and then just accepting combo pieces when theyre offered to you. 5 out 5 runs with riggs, max, and anyone else ends in an infinite combo by the 3rd zone if not sooner.
Tricking sir ratzo into hitting you in the weak point should have him stop the fight and patch your hull up as apology. Maybe he gets too suspicious if you did the same trick last time?
I love the comments in that cross section of time after the ultra sweat lords grind the game enough to complain about literally every decision you make but before they all eventually stop watching.
Glad that makes one of us, this moment is my personal hell, the week where people were just happy to watch is gone. Now cringelords have to come out of the woodwork to showcase how insufferable they are without even posting the misplays to prove they know anything.
@@MBoy2000_ As fun as that would be, I'm afraid Books collecting crystals isn't what gives Big Crystal its empty spots; that's just a modification of Hardest difficulty. Other enemies throughout the game get modifications too, though few are as obvious as Big Crystal's.
Alright, I ll admit that Max may have a use after all. I knew about the card that plays another of course, but didnt see the value as most of the 3 cost cards I typically think about are single use, arent cycled like Peri's Parry. Additionally, I just saw his card draw as worse than what Riggs gives you. I still think that's true as I generally remove Max's cards even before the basics when I do run him. However, what you put together is undeniably more powerful than anything I have come up with so far. Great job killing the shop keep too.
Have you tried forcing Sir Ratzo to hit your weak point? Like, you willingly put it in his way? Maybe there will be special interaction? 😂 I remember him berating you for accidentally hitting his weak point. Maybe you can get revenge or something lol I'd like to curse him like, "You hit my weak point you honourless hypocrite! Traitor!" 😂
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the fact that math.maxB can draw ITSELF if your deck is small enough is psycho
_bare minimum_ draw cards shouldn't be able to draw themselves. needing _two_ zero cost draw cards and a zero cost attack is _still_ an extremely easy infinite.
@Retromation absolutely agree; first time I won with max it took me getting 6 copies of quick-think B (0 mana draw 2, events are fun) and even then i barely got away with it because of some sloppy deckbuiding choices
@@Retromation Especially since basic shot A is all you need to hit a 0 cost attack that doesn't exhaust.
@@corllengatu ESPECIALLY BECAUSE OF THAT HOLY PISS
yeah lol he removed the basic shot just after musing about how a zero cost attack would be infinite its like bud you already had it just an upgrade away!
I love how in each run there's just a little bit of character and plot progression, not even in the form of memories, but things like Books or Max talking with Cat
That's something I love about games like Hades and Revita. Lots of little story arcs that each progress at their own pace.
and Spike Two still has his name changed
Yes!! It’s so quaint! And with all the possible crew combos so much potential!
I think it has something to do with the "win 10 times" achievement ship- sort of how you have to beat Mom's Heart/It Lives a bunch of times to go further in Isaac
Shopkeeper fight summed up in one sentence: "perry this you filthy casual!"
It's Peri, not Perry :)
Imagine Jupiter drones with all that…. Casually firing double or triple the enemy’s total attack back at them multiple times a turn
Riggs+Max are my favorite combination. Either has infinite potential by themselves, but they can synergize together so it's basically guranteed that youll get offered an infinite combo so long as you prioritize a thin enough deck.
It's always impressive how easy you make breaking a game look 😂
I love how this releases right around my lunch break at work
The way the cards seem to be discarded before they trigger their effects, thus letting Draw cards potentially draw themselves is certainly an interesting choice.
I tried Isaac in Jupiter as you suggested and got Drone Piercer, which justifies an Isaac slot even if you never take any of his cards. Attack Drone in the starting deck still feels bad, though.
Yup, the artifacts are nuts. You can just consider attack drone an easy card removal, which is honestly a win-win to have such an easy card to trim for thin decking.
Isaac feels alot better when you lean completely into him, if you pick good support for him he can completely take over the battle, I suggest running with riggs and either drake, peri, and dizzy as your last pick
Im still looking forward to Isaac on the Gemini. I thought it would be a first pick, because you can launch two drones on the same turn without any dodge or midrow slide... I also cant help imagining double upgraded astroids filling the entire middle lol
Isaac and Riggs with Books can get you ‘free’ attacks which can get multiplied… plus drawing from crystals can let you get a one turn fleet with some planning
Reto your videos spoil me with your actually smart gameplay.
I loved your Inscryption and Slice and dice series (among others:)) ) and now I love this one! Keep up the good work!
I really can't get over how good the music in this game is. Hell, even if I get my ass handed to me I still have a good time.
Well... That was disgusting in the best way possible. 😮
You have an uncanny talent to break games elegantly! I approve!
Parry is only one of the many ways to do it, you can also do it using exclusively riggs cards to do a similar deck cycling build and then use charge beam to 1 shot the boss, or you can do a deck cycling run and just use 0 cost damage cards like the wave beams or easier the basic shot after upgrading it, you can also beat the shop keeper using the jupiter ship to pump out a jupiter drone, then use anything that lets you draw and itll give you another jupiter drone, repeat till you have 3 or 4 of them out then hand cannon or parry to 1 shot
Man that method was a lot easier than what I did! Nice run.
I love hearing this music in the morning.
Not sure if you have learned, but status can include movement, shield, etc also. Which in my opinion makes that gain additional status card "boost" much worse depending on the deck. You can't save the boost for good stuff you want to duplicate because boost gets eaten by gaining shield or movement.
"Shield and Temp Shield are no longer considered statuses.
Mechanically, the only impact of this is that Boost’s “add X to your next status” will not be added to Shield or Temp Shield" from some recent patch notes. I wonder if evade is still considered
Passing on the "heal every combat" when you have +1 to healing is definitely a choice.
I encourage you to scroll through the video and count all the times after zone 1 that I was missing not only 1, but _2_ hull, and then reply to this comment how you feel about the decision.
Healing is the choice you take in a roguelike when you're either new at the game, bad at the game, or losing really bad. None were relevant. These are the kind of trap choices you need to avoid if you want to become better at roguelikes. You have to take risks. You need strength over safety in order to scale.
Now I feel bad for Cleo 😢 but good job Retro 😊
I love how Spike Two retained his name change you decided on.
oh huh, even Riggs points how how the ship is confusing sometimes. I loooove how the characters reply to their environment, feels kinda new
I definitely need to unlock Max as quickly as possible. I've only gotten to Drake so far.
I'm thinking Riggs, Isaac and Max. With Isaac I can get the brokenly OP Jupiter drones on any ship to multiply damage, and with hand cannon from Riggs and Math.Max to draw ten extra cards, I might even be able to oneshot Cleo. (Perri, Max and Isaac would probably be better though...)
When i noticed draw cards can put itself in hand and there is 0 mana draw two, I knew infinity is definitely possible. I just didn't expect it to be so easy to achieve.
Max especially combod with Riggs is basically guaranteeing youll get offered an infinite combo, you just need to prioritize thinning the deck and then just accepting combo pieces when theyre offered to you.
5 out 5 runs with riggs, max, and anyone else ends in an infinite combo by the 3rd zone if not sooner.
Tricking sir ratzo into hitting you in the weak point should have him stop the fight and patch your hull up as apology.
Maybe he gets too suspicious if you did the same trick last time?
keep it up ❤ im excited to see the 1st ship again
I wonder what happens if you let Sir Ratso hit your weak point.
Does he surrender in dishonor? Or maybe join your crew as an apology?
As we all know already, Retromation OP!
But that was almost too easy when infinite was so easily obtainable.
Yayyy more Cobalt Core
to be fair, if you shuffle your ship parts you gain 1 max hull, since its in 90% of the runs a really bad idea
I love the comments in that cross section of time after the ultra sweat lords grind the game enough to complain about literally every decision you make but before they all eventually stop watching.
Glad that makes one of us, this moment is my personal hell, the week where people were just happy to watch is gone. Now cringelords have to come out of the woodwork to showcase how insufferable they are without even posting the misplays to prove they know anything.
@@Retromation _and you're winning consistently_ . imagine the alternative my god
Don't have to imagine it, just watch anyone else and you'll see, ayooooo
@@Retromation I dont have to imagine it I can see myself play haha
now that the weird guy is collecting parts of big crystal, does it have less pieces than it originally did? I swear it used to be a full
absolutely, it used to be full, now it is missing crystals
Ayy, can't wait to see what happens when there's less
@@MBoy2000_ As fun as that would be, I'm afraid Books collecting crystals isn't what gives Big Crystal its empty spots; that's just a modification of Hardest difficulty. Other enemies throughout the game get modifications too, though few are as obvious as Big Crystal's.
Enjoy your vacation 😊
Vacate your enjoyment 😶
That poor shopkeeper!
Great series
cat.exe is giving me Inscription vibes.
Parry would be busted against the shop keeper
Keep watching lol
Rest in piss math.max B, it now exhausts in 1.0.2
Alright, I ll admit that Max may have a use after all. I knew about the card that plays another of course, but didnt see the value as most of the 3 cost cards I typically think about are single use, arent cycled like Peri's Parry. Additionally, I just saw his card draw as worse than what Riggs gives you. I still think that's true as I generally remove Max's cards even before the basics when I do run him. However, what you put together is undeniably more powerful than anything I have come up with so far. Great job killing the shop keep too.
Have you tried forcing Sir Ratzo to hit your weak point? Like, you willingly put it in his way? Maybe there will be special interaction? 😂
I remember him berating you for accidentally hitting his weak point. Maybe you can get revenge or something lol
I'd like to curse him like, "You hit my weak point you honourless hypocrite! Traitor!" 😂
This strategy is no longer possible, because of patch 1.0.2 which changed several cards including the upgraded Math.Max B
Haha haha that was crazy!
Just like in every card game 0 cost cards break the game lol
good shit
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Absolutely broken build!