I love this podcast! Thank you ladies! I don't think simone biles gets enough credit for the cultural change on the women's side. Way back in 2013, sje was positive about other athletes in competition, cheerful and supportive of athletes from other countries, and has any other gymnast ever invited the silver medalist to come up on the podium and share the lime light like simone did in an individual all around Olympic final? Simone is the only athlete who fought the regime whilst still competing, arguably shut down the ranch, amd more. Do we appreciate her enough? Never mind her gymnastics, which i also see people taking for granted. Just some thoughts.
So glad yall Talked about Trinity , she didn’t get the airtime she deserved but I’m glad she got the love from teammates competitors and gymnastics insiders . I’m still so glad KJCis on here , it makes my heart so happy we still get to see and hear her , yall need to do these every year for worlds etc
I’m hoping Trinity will be given a place on the GOLD Over America tour. It would be great to see her bow out on a high where she is enjoying her gymnastics and performing freely without being judged.
@@Dianehallasoh that would be perfect ! I forgot all About that . Yes that would be amazing . I really would love to see these other former college and elites come together and do some kind of legacy tour competition thing !
Two bright, thoughtful, and articulate women, and a great combination. I love getting this commentary from two FAB Olympians. What a treat. Just what I needed, when almost everything else on gymnastics commentary seems to be so lacking in insight. Thanks.
I’ve really enjoyed watching the athletes cheer for one another’s accomplishments and performances. It didn’t happen much back during the Soviet reign - to see Boguinskaya smilingly applaud Silivas back in the day was a magnificent show of “sportsmanship.” To hear athletes cheering for one another at Worlds and Olympics, despite the country they compete for, is a wonderful show of respect for simply great gymnastics. Can’t wait to see how Paris shapes up. It’s going to be a great competition.
Damn, Kathy. 12 when you started? You are truly a gifted athlete! Not to take away from your just being a badass person, but WOW, woman. You are an incredible athlete!
I still say 🇺🇸 has hardest team to make.. not just the Olympic team but even the national team it's really hard. Other countries would love to have alot of the girl who didn't make the national team like jayla.H ,Nola , and Lex and many others .
I love KJC. The best gymnastic commentator! It’s good to hear you both talk about gymnastics. I have my charts also (they are not color coded). But I follow women’s gymnastics closely. Thank you! ☺️
I enjoy hearing them speak, but I think they're tap dancing around some important points. The exposure and resolution around Larry Nassar was huge. We're seeing more athletes involved in decision-making and in coaching. We're seeing more focus on mental health and awareness and the era of beating up the athletes until they win a medal is over.
I think the comment that resonated the most with me was KJC noting the importance of mature presence and influence in the sport. KJC KNOWS the importance- she was THAT person. To have arrived at this place on the world stage where women's gymnastics is at the highest level of athleticism and artistry with actual WOMEN competing, and having done so for years....oh my! Experience, knowledge, even strength in adult bodies! I remember watching college gymnastics 10 years ago thinking these athletes have so much more now! Why are they going to be done after this?
I love this podcast, I wish it was a bit more structured and Bridget banter backed a little more. I would also like more of the technical perspective, maybe from Bridget, as Kathy is so good at explaining the artistic and emotional perspective of gymnastics. Please don’t be offended. Much love ❤!
There are many pathways to success in this sport. I'm thrilled to see the elites move to college and find the excitement and joy to return to elite. Emma is notably as one. She may not medal at the Olympics, but she'll always be an Olympian aside from her time at UCLA. Simone Biles is not just talent and hardwork, but a global ambassador for the sport of gymnastics. There is a part of her story that the present and future gymnasts can gleam hope from. Women can compete with and support each other. Unfortunately when that is not nurtured as part of our culture it is indeed a lost to humanity. I think it is the men, the shift in the culture of USAG, as well as the influence of the women from other countries, like the Chinese ladies. They are so warm. It's a beautiful thing to see them come and hug. I hope this grows and sustains.
My team right now: 1) Biles 2) Jones (assuming withdrawing because of her shoulder is more precautionary than a serious issue). 3) Lee (would like to see a slightly higher bars even if not her most difficult routine she throws at Olympics). 4) Blakely (she needs to have another 2 for 2 nights on beam and bars. Having that Cheng vault just made her so much more valuable) 5) Chiles (She scores low to mid 14.000’s on everything) The traveling alternates are Carey and DiCello Carey is on the team if she keeps hitting her Cheng and upgrades her floor and gets minimum 14.000 on both nights of trials. DiCello makes the team if Blakely and Chiles have error prone trials Rivera is probably a at home alternate (along with Wong) because she is just too green especially with the experience level of the other gymnasts.
I agree with all of this, exactly. A lot depends on what happens at trials, obviously, but if the team had to be picked today, I think Simone, Suni, Skye, Shilese, and Jordan (with Jade and Kayla as traveling alternates) is the right choice. Unfortunately, a lot of really, really great gymnasts are going to be left off the team.
My team right now: 1) Biles 2) Jones (assuming withdrawing because of her shoulder is more precautionary than a serious issue). 3) Lee (would like to see a slightly higher bars even if not her most difficult routine she throws at Olympics). 4) Blakely (she needs to have another 2 for 2 nights on beam and bars. Having that Cheng vault just made her so much more valuable) 5) Chiles (She scores low to mid 14.000’s on everything) The traveling alternates are Carey and DiCello Carey is on the team if she keeps hitting her Cheng and upgrades her floor and gets minimum 14.000 on both nights of trials. DiCello makes the team if Blakely and Chiles have error prone trials Rivera is probably a at home alternate (along with Wong) because she is just too green especially with the experience level of the other gymnasts. Order of gymnasts in qualifications: Vault: jones, Chiles, Blakely, Biles Bars: Chiles, Lee, Biles, Jones Beam: Blakely, jones, Lee, Biles Floor: Blakely, Jones, Chiles, Biles The rotation if Carey is on the team instead of Chiles: Vault: jones, Blakely, Carey, Biles Bars: Blakely, Lee, Biles, jones beam: Blakely, jones, Lee, biles Floor: Blakely, Carey, jones, Biles
Jade is on the team only if she upgrades on floor and hits minimum 14.000 BOTH nights. Otherwise, Chiles should be on the team and Carey is a traveling alternate. If Blakely has any major errors and either DiCello or Chiles are clean and outscore the other, they replace Blakely. Losing that Cheng from Blakely is not desirable though. Having 3 chengs (Blakely, Carey and Biles) is huge.
@@ClarkJohnson-oq9ue Skye will NOT be replaced by Kayla let's fr. Skye's scores on vault, floor and bars are inflated, but not as egregious as Kayla whose beam could be nearly a full point off, even when international judges are kind on leg forms 🤔
@@sumsumcorda8 If Skye is unusable on beam, at least she can do a Cheng in TF. Skye's beam with a fall is still a point higher than Kayla's beam applying Euros standard. And it's not like Kayla's bars is consistent either. Kayla's only contributing event is floor which will confidently be outscored by Simone and Shi. And there are so many options to select on this apparatus only.
Thank you for this wonderful podcast! I so appreciate your positive respect for each athlete. In a world of tragic podcasts and social media posts that critique living people like they don't have souls or feelings... you two are a breath of fresh air. Thankyou for knowing the sport as well as you do and for recognizing hard work, talent, good coaching, good sportsmanship and the whole picture. Continue in everyway! You are doing really great. The world needs more like you.
When is someone going to mention the judges being against Leanne? She's being scored harshly but because she's not an Olympic gold medalist no one will even bring it up. You guys refuse to mention names of gymnasts and I get it, you have to see them in person but Kayla Dicello's beam score on night one and floor score on nights 1 and 2, and Suni's 8.7 execution scores are being judged by different judges than what Leanne is being judged by. It's cheating and you have to know it but you won't bring it up. The judges know who they want and I believe the judges are being told who to score unfairly by Alicia, Tatiana, and Don Baker. Nationals wasn't scored fairly for Leanne. It doesn't matter if her scores were fair or not normal wise when Kayla Dicello's beam score was an entire point too high. When it's that blatant cheating against her. And people say jade was lowballed on floor but she wasn't. Leanne was in comparison to extra points for the people they want on this team. WHEN WILL SOMEONE ACKNOWLEDGE THIS? Change needs to happen and we need you Bridget and Kathy to point it out.
They will never point it out. We all know it's happening but the judges like Simone's old coach, and Chelsea Davis, Kristie Phillips (who by the way isn't even watching half the routines. Watch her, she constantly is looking down and has been accused of this in the past) And Anna Li, who has been accused of abuse . The judges are doing what Tatiana Periskaya (sp) is telling them to do. That is how they get assignments.
@@SabrinaVoineaSStolenMedal It's the media's job to point this stuff out. Kathy has been a commentator for years. I don't even want to watch this sport anymore. That is how bad the cheating has gotten. I want someone to acknowledge this. Why not Kathy. People seem to respect her. that is why I defend Tim Daggett, because in 2016 while he didn't come out and call the cheating for Gabby, he made it known that Mykayla Skinner was being screwed and had a gripe. Did you know that Tatiana told Marta not to put Skinner on the Olympic team because she would be judged harshly? That was why they took Gabby.
My question is, is there ever a discussion by FIG to keep the teams at 5 gymnasts but allowing 2 individuals max per country and they can only compete in 2 events max (3 for men).
I agree, I feel like they need to do a combo of Tokyo and Paris, 5-person team plus one individual. Allows for athletes like Stephen nedoroscik to contend for an Olympic medal, as he should but likely won’t
@@Fushiginhoca That’s good as well. And I wish we could include Tiana and Kaliya on the alternates list. This will be a hard decision. I’m thinking about going to the trials ( which would be major for me to see this from some other space than my TV…LOL).
I typically love you both, but I have to put my foot down and say "absolutely NOT" about one thing. The men are NOT the reason the women are so supportive of each other. As you ALSO said, women have been each other's biggest cheerleaders in gymnastics in college for longer than anyone, and you both know this. It's the college influence plus a leadership team that allows them to be kind to each other.
True, but simone biles was always supportive and a happy supportive competitor with no fake vibes. If you go back and watch her in her early years, she was always positive.
I thought that was an odd thing for her to say as well. Of course her observations when she was doing gymnastics might give her a different perspective. I assumed the reason the men were more vocal is because number one they are usually still competing in college so they have that college team thing. But also it's more acceptable for men to be loud normally then women. Once I started watching NCAA gymnastics for women I came to love that team camaraderie and the women have always done that in college. I saw the star change once the college gymnast started coming back to elite like Jordan bringing that energy onto the floor. I'm sure there were women like Simone who clearly are supportive of teammates who may be just weren't really loud and open about it in the past. Now it's become much more acceptable and I really like that change in the sport. I used to not like all the loudness for the men but again once I started watching college gymnastics I understood it. also I wonder if the women in general have felt more pressure because they are expected to win gold and even though our men are working to get on the podium there's not an automatic expectation that they're going to win. I may be wrong about that.
I agree with KJC. I remember seeing/hearing the men vs the women from 1984 through like 2004. Did the women support/cheer each other? Absolutely but it was never to the same level. Maybe the women weren’t just as loud as the men, but the men were also more used to competing on teams in college AND completing elite. For women it was elite then college and that’s it (not going back to elite). Now women are starting to do college and go back to to elite so they get the seem experience the men had on a Team.
@@joyfuljaj I think she came along in an era where it was it was highly toxic and made no room for team support, but I do not think this is owed to the men as well as seeing other ladies around the globe extend support to their international competitors.
You are judging your team based on US judges because there is no chance Kayla will get a 14 with that beam routine. There are countless cases of this throughout Nationals.
I was siked about this podcast for the elite season but there is SO much talking in broad strokes about the same nebulous points, the same sentiments being shared for duration. Positivity is great, but given the knowledge and experience these two have, I was hoping for more facts or insight into the technical side of things. Just not a lot "concrete" being said. Then again I don't listen to many podcasts, so perhaps that's what people like.
For this particular episode I kind of felt the same thing. They do kind of make me want to go back and look at some of the athletes they talked about. I have to admit I was not very focused when I watched the championships.
I agree. I got so excited when she started talking about numbers, but then she never talked about the results. I don’t have time to go do that score highlighting exercise, but I’d love to hear about it.
Are these ladies deluded?? Gymnastics is difficult but they make it look like it's such a big deal moving from college to elite gymnastics!! if Trinity Thomas was so talented how come she doesn't even make Olympic trials?? The talented ones are Suni Lee jade Carey, Lean Wong etc... These ladies are just here to praise anything!!
This is the tag team commentating duo that gymnastics needs. ❤
Literally this should be the most popular gymnastics show
It is nice!!
Honestly can they please live stream their own commentary during the Olympics? I would watch in a heartbeat ❤
@@SquirtlePower809 It's going to get there. Because it is truly is the best.
Emphasis on needs, because the gymternet can get so toxic especially during an Olympic year
I love this podcast! Thank you ladies! I don't think simone biles gets enough credit for the cultural change on the women's side. Way back in 2013, sje was positive about other athletes in competition, cheerful and supportive of athletes from other countries, and has any other gymnast ever invited the silver medalist to come up on the podium and share the lime light like simone did in an individual all around Olympic final? Simone is the only athlete who fought the regime whilst still competing, arguably shut down the ranch, amd more. Do we appreciate her enough? Never mind her gymnastics, which i also see people taking for granted. Just some thoughts.
Shutting down the ranch with a tweet was iconic
Here, here!
Ladies this podcast is amazing & you are both amazing!
"things dont get easier. you get better at doing harder things" -KJC dropping more golden wisdom
So glad yall
Talked about Trinity , she didn’t get the airtime she deserved but I’m glad she got the love from teammates competitors and gymnastics insiders .
I’m still so glad KJCis on here , it makes my heart so happy we still get to see and hear her , yall need to do these every year for worlds etc
I’m hoping Trinity will be given a place on the GOLD Over America tour. It would be great to see her bow out on a high where she is enjoying her gymnastics and performing freely without being judged.
@@Dianehallasoh that would be perfect ! I forgot all
About that . Yes that would be amazing . I really would love to see these other former college and elites come together and do some kind of legacy tour competition thing !
Two bright, thoughtful, and articulate women, and a great combination. I love getting this commentary from two FAB Olympians. What a treat. Just what I needed, when almost everything else on gymnastics commentary seems to be so lacking in insight. Thanks.
Cathy you are amazing- thank you for doing this series with Bridget!
the "Phoenix quad" WOW. so dang powerful and such a clap back after the last few years!
Loving this podcast addition to the Olympic run up! Keep being awesome Bridget and KJC!!!
I’ve really enjoyed watching the athletes cheer for one another’s accomplishments and performances. It didn’t happen much back during the Soviet reign - to see Boguinskaya smilingly applaud Silivas back in the day was a magnificent show of “sportsmanship.” To hear athletes cheering for one another at Worlds and Olympics, despite the country they compete for, is a wonderful show of respect for simply great gymnastics. Can’t wait to see how Paris shapes up. It’s going to be a great competition.
It was the World Championships in Stuttgart 2019 where there was water dripping from the ceiling on to the beam! Every gymnast talked about it.
This national team will henceforth forever be known as the Order of the Phoenix.
YES!!!!! LOVE IT!!!
Omg, yes!!!
I could listen to these two talk about gymnastics all day. I am so looking forward to the rest of this season.
So glad to still have the wisdom of Kathy Johnson Clarke. I miss her so much on Friday night Hits.
Damn, Kathy. 12 when you started? You are truly a gifted athlete! Not to take away from your just being a badass person, but WOW, woman. You are an incredible athlete!
I still say 🇺🇸 has hardest team to make.. not just the Olympic team but even the national team it's really hard. Other countries would love to have alot of the girl who didn't make the national team like jayla.H ,Nola , and Lex and many others .
We will loan them to other countries for a fee
KJC is such a treasure! Thank you Bridget to bring her on and be such a great considerate host! This podcast is a joy :)
I thought about Trinity, Addison ,and Nola whos olympic dreamed ended . I wish them well
Always potential for 2028 💁🏻♀️
2028, gabby douglas will be there!
I love KJC. The best gymnastic commentator! It’s good to hear you both talk about gymnastics. I have my charts also (they are not color coded). But I follow women’s gymnastics closely. Thank you! ☺️
I enjoy hearing them speak, but I think they're tap dancing around some important points. The exposure and resolution around Larry Nassar was huge. We're seeing more athletes involved in decision-making and in coaching. We're seeing more focus on mental health and awareness and the era of beating up the athletes until they win a medal is over.
I agree with this.
I think the comment that resonated the most with me was KJC noting the importance of mature presence and influence in the sport. KJC KNOWS the importance- she was THAT person. To have arrived at this place on the world stage where women's gymnastics is at the highest level of athleticism and artistry with actual WOMEN competing, and having done so for years....oh my! Experience, knowledge, even strength in adult bodies! I remember watching college gymnastics 10 years ago thinking these athletes have so much more now! Why are they going to be done after this?
Phoenix quad! Keep the content coming Bridgett : ) ❤
Thanks so much, Bridget! I really enjoy your podcast and think adding KJC for the episodes leading up to/including the Olympics is brilliant!
Just found this - I’m addicted!!
Thanks for another great show!
I love this podcast, I wish it was a bit more structured and Bridget banter backed a little more. I would also like more of the technical perspective, maybe from Bridget, as Kathy is so good at explaining the artistic and emotional perspective of gymnastics. Please don’t be offended. Much love ❤!
There are many pathways to success in this sport. I'm thrilled to see the elites move to college and find the excitement and joy to return to elite. Emma is notably as one. She may not medal at the Olympics, but she'll always be an Olympian aside from her time at UCLA.
Simone Biles is not just talent and hardwork, but a global ambassador for the sport of gymnastics. There is a part of her story that the present and future gymnasts can gleam hope from.
Women can compete with and support each other. Unfortunately when that is not nurtured as part of our culture it is indeed a lost to humanity. I think it is the men, the shift in the culture of USAG, as well as the influence of the women from other countries, like the Chinese ladies. They are so warm. It's a beautiful thing to see them come and hug. I hope this grows and sustains.
My team right now:
1) Biles
2) Jones (assuming withdrawing because of her shoulder is more precautionary than a serious issue).
3) Lee (would like to see a slightly higher bars even if not her most difficult routine she throws at Olympics).
4) Blakely (she needs to have another 2 for 2 nights on beam and bars. Having that Cheng vault just made her so much more valuable)
5) Chiles (She scores low to mid 14.000’s on everything)
The traveling alternates are Carey and DiCello
Carey is on the team if she keeps hitting her Cheng and upgrades her floor and gets minimum 14.000 on both nights of trials.
DiCello makes the team if Blakely and Chiles have error prone trials
Rivera is probably a at home alternate (along with Wong) because she is just too green especially with the experience level of the other gymnasts.
I agree with all of this, exactly. A lot depends on what happens at trials, obviously, but if the team had to be picked today, I think Simone, Suni, Skye, Shilese, and Jordan (with Jade and Kayla as traveling alternates) is the right choice. Unfortunately, a lot of really, really great gymnasts are going to be left off the team.
My team right now:
1) Biles
2) Jones (assuming withdrawing because of her shoulder is more precautionary than a serious issue).
3) Lee (would like to see a slightly higher bars even if not her most difficult routine she throws at Olympics).
4) Blakely (she needs to have another 2 for 2 nights on beam and bars. Having that Cheng vault just made her so much more valuable)
5) Chiles (She scores low to mid 14.000’s on everything)
The traveling alternates are Carey and DiCello
Carey is on the team if she keeps hitting her Cheng and upgrades her floor and gets minimum 14.000 on both nights of trials.
DiCello makes the team if Blakely and Chiles have error prone trials
Rivera is probably a at home alternate (along with Wong) because she is just too green especially with the experience level of the other gymnasts.
Order of gymnasts in qualifications:
Vault: jones, Chiles, Blakely, Biles
Bars: Chiles, Lee, Biles, Jones
Beam: Blakely, jones, Lee, Biles
Floor: Blakely, Jones, Chiles, Biles
The rotation if Carey is on the team instead of Chiles:
Vault: jones, Blakely, Carey, Biles
Bars: Blakely, Lee, Biles, jones
beam: Blakely, jones, Lee, biles
Floor: Blakely, Carey, jones, Biles
My team: Simone, Shilese, Skye (if she stays on at Trials), Jade, and Suni. Jordan if Skye cannot stay on events at Trials.
Jade is on the team only if she upgrades on floor and hits minimum 14.000 BOTH nights. Otherwise, Chiles should be on the team and Carey is a traveling alternate.
If Blakely has any major errors and either DiCello or Chiles are clean and outscore the other, they replace Blakely. Losing that Cheng from Blakely is not desirable though. Having 3 chengs (Blakely, Carey and Biles) is huge.
@@ClarkJohnson-oq9ue Skye will NOT be replaced by Kayla let's fr. Skye's scores on vault, floor and bars are inflated, but not as egregious as Kayla whose beam could be nearly a full point off, even when international judges are kind on leg forms 🤔
@@cocoroni1031 the thing is, kyla is more reliable than ski. ski isnt reliable and doesnt have as much international experience as kayla.
@@sumsumcorda8 If Skye is unusable on beam, at least she can do a Cheng in TF. Skye's beam with a fall is still a point higher than Kayla's beam applying Euros standard. And it's not like Kayla's bars is consistent either. Kayla's only contributing event is floor which will confidently be outscored by Simone and Shi. And there are so many options to select on this apparatus only.
Kathy and her Florida bias never ends.LMAO
I think for a long time the culture in USAG was so cut throat and traumatic, it was hard to have the camaraderie they have now.
You have not mentioned Jade. Why not?
She's being overshadowed by Blakely
Thank you for this wonderful podcast! I so appreciate your positive respect for each athlete. In a world of tragic podcasts and social media posts that critique living people like they don't have souls or feelings... you two are a breath of fresh air. Thankyou for knowing the sport as well as you do and for recognizing hard work, talent, good coaching, good sportsmanship and the whole picture. Continue in everyway! You are doing really great. The world needs more like you.
Amazing amazing
When is someone going to mention the judges being against Leanne? She's being scored harshly but because she's not an Olympic gold medalist no one will even bring it up. You guys refuse to mention names of gymnasts and I get it, you have to see them in person but Kayla Dicello's beam score on night one and floor score on nights 1 and 2, and Suni's 8.7 execution scores are being judged by different judges than what Leanne is being judged by. It's cheating and you have to know it but you won't bring it up. The judges know who they want and I believe the judges are being told who to score unfairly by Alicia, Tatiana, and Don Baker. Nationals wasn't scored fairly for Leanne. It doesn't matter if her scores were fair or not normal wise when Kayla Dicello's beam score was an entire point too high. When it's that blatant cheating against her. And people say jade was lowballed on floor but she wasn't. Leanne was in comparison to extra points for the people they want on this team. WHEN WILL SOMEONE ACKNOWLEDGE THIS? Change needs to happen and we need you Bridget and Kathy to point it out.
They will never point it out. We all know it's happening but the judges like Simone's old coach, and Chelsea Davis, Kristie Phillips (who by the way isn't even watching half the routines. Watch her, she constantly is looking down and has been accused of this in the past) And Anna Li, who has been accused of abuse . The judges are doing what Tatiana Periskaya (sp) is telling them to do. That is how they get assignments.
@@SabrinaVoineaSStolenMedal It's the media's job to point this stuff out. Kathy has been a commentator for years. I don't even want to watch this sport anymore. That is how bad the cheating has gotten. I want someone to acknowledge this. Why not Kathy. People seem to respect her. that is why I defend Tim Daggett, because in 2016 while he didn't come out and call the cheating for Gabby, he made it known that Mykayla Skinner was being screwed and had a gripe. Did you know that Tatiana told Marta not to put Skinner on the Olympic team because she would be judged harshly? That was why they took Gabby.
@@acacia7530 I knew that.I believe everyone knows it now.
Kathy spends too much time kissing Suni's butt, to tell the truth. If Suni becomes lowballed then she will speak up.
@@acacia7530 True
I want to see those notes. LOL
My question is, is there ever a discussion by FIG to keep the teams at 5 gymnasts but allowing 2 individuals max per country and they can only compete in 2 events max (3 for men).
I agree, I feel like they need to do a combo of Tokyo and Paris, 5-person team plus one individual. Allows for athletes like Stephen nedoroscik to contend for an Olympic medal, as he should but likely won’t
Don’t you guys think the bonding has a lot to do with the college athletes
I agree this is a big part of it.
They are great but they are falling and not sticking. Most of them.
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My Team is Simone Shilese Suni Skye and Kayla. Alternates Jordan Jade and Hezley.
I would switch Kayla for Jordan
@@Fushiginhoca That’s good as well. And I wish we could include Tiana and Kaliya on the alternates list. This will be a hard decision. I’m thinking about going to the trials ( which would be major for me to see this from some other space than my TV…LOL).
@@lynettestewart9142 yes that would be nice
I typically love you both, but I have to put my foot down and say "absolutely NOT" about one thing. The men are NOT the reason the women are so supportive of each other. As you ALSO said, women have been each other's biggest cheerleaders in gymnastics in college for longer than anyone, and you both know this. It's the college influence plus a leadership team that allows them to be kind to each other.
True, but simone biles was always supportive and a happy supportive competitor with no fake vibes. If you go back and watch her in her early years, she was always positive.
I thought that was an odd thing for her to say as well. Of course her observations when she was doing gymnastics might give her a different perspective. I assumed the reason the men were more vocal is because number one they are usually still competing in college so they have that college team thing. But also it's more acceptable for men to be loud normally then women. Once I started watching NCAA gymnastics for women I came to love that team camaraderie and the women have always done that in college. I saw the star change once the college gymnast started coming back to elite like Jordan bringing that energy onto the floor. I'm sure there were women like Simone who clearly are supportive of teammates who may be just weren't really loud and open about it in the past. Now it's become much more acceptable and I really like that change in the sport. I used to not like all the loudness for the men but again once I started watching college gymnastics I understood it. also I wonder if the women in general have felt more pressure because they are expected to win gold and even though our men are working to get on the podium there's not an automatic expectation that they're going to win. I may be wrong about that.
She legit said it was based on her EXPERIENCE. it’s almost like people can have different experiences & opinions than you.
I agree with KJC. I remember seeing/hearing the men vs the women from 1984 through like 2004. Did the women support/cheer each other? Absolutely but it was never to the same level. Maybe the women weren’t just as loud as the men, but the men were also more used to competing on teams in college AND completing elite. For women it was elite then college and that’s it (not going back to elite). Now women are starting to do college and go back to to elite so they get the seem experience the men had on a Team.
@@joyfuljaj I think she came along in an era where it was it was highly toxic and made no room for team support, but I do not think this is owed to the men as well as seeing other ladies around the globe extend support to their international competitors.
You are judging your team based on US judges because there is no chance Kayla will get a 14 with that beam routine. There are countless cases of this throughout Nationals.
I was siked about this podcast for the elite season but there is SO much talking in broad strokes about the same nebulous points, the same sentiments being shared for duration. Positivity is great, but given the knowledge and experience these two have, I was hoping for more facts or insight into the technical side of things. Just not a lot "concrete" being said. Then again I don't listen to many podcasts, so perhaps that's what people like.
For this particular episode I kind of felt the same thing. They do kind of make me want to go back and look at some of the athletes they talked about. I have to admit I was not very focused when I watched the championships.
I agree. I got so excited when she started talking about numbers, but then she never talked about the results. I don’t have time to go do that score highlighting exercise, but I’d love to hear about it.
Are these ladies deluded?? Gymnastics is difficult but they make it look like it's such a big deal moving from college to elite gymnastics!! if Trinity Thomas was so talented how come she doesn't even make Olympic trials?? The talented ones are Suni Lee jade Carey, Lean Wong etc... These ladies are just here to praise anything!!