The 5600X - Curve Optimizer and Testing the Stock AMD Cooler
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- AMD's Ryzen 5 5600X CPU comes with a stock Wraith cooler, is it worth keeping around? In this video I'll test out the stock cooler, I'll demonstrate how you might use curve optimizer to make it run better, and also show the performance gap between the stock cooler and an aftermarket cooling solution.
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Pc-Canada
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How have I not come across this channel before? Great vid, great overlays/transition, great voice. Cheers
Thanks for another great video. Would you consider making a dedicated fan curve (CPU, GPU, and case) optimization tutorial video at some point? I've scoured RUclips and I just can't find one that is remotely good. Thanks for the consideration!
Good idea, let me see what I can come up with!
Thank you! I am using my 5600x under stock cooler for a month now for two reasons 1. Trying to save my budget 2. Don’t want to waste the free cooler. I always wonder how it performs and the difference between a tower cooler and the stock cooler. You’ve obviously answered my question. 🙏
And if it works for you, keep on! That’s the beauty of the stock cooler, at least you have a starting point.
Thank you for your review. On the Wraith Prism, there is a high speed / low speed toggle switch on the cooler. Using the fan at high speed is much louder. I have doubts about the potential performance benefits of it as well. I wouldn't be surprised to see you testing that in a future video. ;)
for stock, you can do with the stock cooler but if you want better performance and temps use after market coolers :)
great video as usual!
Hey man, really loving all the great content. You’ve become one of my top channels to watch and some of your videos helped me get my Mechanic Master C26 setup optimally. Was wondering what case that is, don’t recognize it from the other videos
Nevermind it’s the sliger. Oops
Using a Liquid freezer II on my 5600X and it boosts to 4.65 reliably with no issues. Temps are important on these CPU's if you want the most from them that's for sure.
Agreed, they are pushed pretty much to the wall at stock and don’t have much room for Oc’ing.
Pbo on or off?
@@zainalariffin9294 No PBO. Don't waste my time with that stuff but that's just me.
@@revnto7k 4.65 all core or single core?
I prefer +50-100 for max boost personally. The +200 means that single core or small number of cores will be prioritized to hit at that number. With +50-100, you will probably overall get better and more consistent multi core performance. Personally most I’d put on a fuma 2 tier air cooler would be +50 with curve optimizer. Even with an nhd15s on my 5800X, I still prefer just doing +50. As for ram, I ocd my dual rank 2x16 3200cl14 kit to 3600cl16-16-16-32-48-1t (gmd enabled) at trfc 288 with 1.4V. Honestly, not worth the headaches and hours to oc more than this as 3800cl16 1900 fclk is already pretty hard and most likely will need around 1.45V on average. 3733cl16 is probably the max of my cheap b550m mag mortar mobo (specified on MSI site). Dual rank you will be pretty much hard limited to 3800cl14, while quad rank (4x16) probably around 3600 (cl14 or cl16). Single rank can do 4000-4200 max depending on lottery.
Thanks for your good review as per usual. I will be happy if you make a vidio which explain how to use CTR 2.0 RC 5 , a great tool for CPU over clocking or undervolting or both of them.. I think it is importent for mini case user , which can maintain lower temperature but keep in high performance cpu ( sorry for my English )..
Nice video, Can you do a video on the Sliger S610 case? I just got it an it seems pretty good, it offers some customisation and layout choices. Currently I am building a R7 5800x rtx3080 pc in it and thermals are obviously a problem
Indeed, I am planning on reviewing the case. I think you can make it work well although the 5800X definitely is challenging from my experience so far. What cooler?
@@MachinesMore I'm using the NH-U9S with the noctua TH1 thermal paste. I can let you know what sorts of temperatures, clocks and voltages I get if it would help you out
Rear intake or exhaust? Rear intake tends to be better with the more limited case fan type layouts like NCase M1, and especially vital for flow through coolers like the founders edition 30 series.
@@MachinesMore Good question: I have a slim 120mm noctua on the top as exhaust, a 140mm as exhaust on the side and two 120mm intake under the GPU. The cpu fans on the NH-U9S (I got a second) bring air in through the back so the exhaust from the gpu and cpu are in the same place, and take out by the two exhaust fans.
All fans are chromax black, I haven't tested anything yet but ill let you know if you want (once I have tested it all)
I love these videos, keep it up!
Do you have a Discord yet?
idk is my BIOS messed up or what. But i went negative in curve optimizer and the more i went down, the more power consumption and temperature of CPU went up.
Yeah i turned off pbo and other overclocking options because im on stock cooler , temp same or worse. Getting a deepcool aio tomorrows
I just turned PBO off until my Liquid Freezer II 120 arrives. All cores are at 3.6Ghz, no boost, nothing, because stock paste with PBO and Wraith Stealth gave unbearable noise as a result of the stock cooler trying to catch up with 1.4V all-core boosts... And I am running R5 3600, which has basically the same TDP. Maybe it would be better if I used Thermal Grizzly on it, but don't wanna waste it on Wraith Stealth.
If you were getting an AIO anyway yeah, no point to really bother with paste improvements which are at best a degree or less of difference.
@@MachinesMore What you think, did I make a mistake for not getting LF II in 240 or 280 size? I thought that 120 should be sufficient, especially considering that I plan to run it in push/pull (and we're talking 65W TDP CPU with 3700X being only upgrade I'd go for).
i've test my 5600 with manual static oc @4600mhz on bios, give same result with auto oc on amd software adrenaline just one click more simple .. i think input manual curve optimizer just company gimmick cause same result even in the default (method result with fps)
I using mugen 5 on my 5600x in my nr200p and if getting 85deg with speeds of 4.5ghz. ambient is about 30. Not sure why it's hot. Have the back with 92mm intake as thats the only size that fits with my aorus pro ax mb and another default intake at the end of the heatsink. Intake with gpu fans below as my rtx not able to fix any case fan beneath it and only 1 exhaust and this mb don't allow a 25mm fan to fit and function above the heatsink
Can anyone tell me if a Arctic P12 fan mounted directly on top of the wraith stealth on the radiator bracket of the nr200 give me better temps than shown here? Other fans in the system will be 1 92mm sickleflow as rear exhaust. 2 120mm as top exhaust, 1 120mm as intake on the radiator bracket directly on top of the wraith stealth, 1 120mm as bottom left intake for the GPU. I am going to run a 5600x stock with PBO2, 6700XT (Haven't decided the exact model yet), NR200 case and gigabyte A520m S2H motherborad (Just about get's the job done imo) I am mainly going for the stock cooler because I think the VRM can benefit from that 120mm intake on the rad bracket and also I am on a tight budget.
My 5600 x with included cooler was idling at 70c and then under load hot 95c till it shut down my PC for the CPU being to hot. And said 95c under load should be no problem but then why is the PC shutting down? I have a Arctic freezer esport Duo and some grizzly kryonaut thermal paste coming tomorrow so I really hope that works. I just wanna be able to game more than 15 mins before it shuts down. Old 2600x had no issues with included fan so I'm baffled. I may e undervolt also if it's still super hot.
Can you test wraith prism rgb on 5600x?
Hi bud.. can you try sgpc k88 case? That case can fit matx mobo and atx psu.....
I have a 5600x and I have a case with pretty decent airflow (2 140mm intakes and 2 120mm exhausts) and it's pretty crap when looking at how it is regularly on max RPM while maintaining 80 degrees. Not to mention the noise.
To be honest, if you're spending on a 5600x at least get a cooler like the se-224-xt. Very low cost and allows for longevity, better thermals and noise.
Indeed, best price to performance cooler for Ryzen 5.
wanna ask these setting consider for undervolting and low temp?
What's the difference between this and negative offset voltage? Sorry I think I missed something.
A negative offset will tell the board to give less voltage, but this way of undervolting typically just results in worse performance since your CPU will just refuse to clock as high with the lower voltage. Curve optimizer shifts the curve, and if you chip is better than average you stand to gain at least something. If you setup a fixed all core clock and static voltage, that works too for all Ryzen generations, but that does limit your single core boost.
@@MachinesMore It's great how AMD implemented Curve Optimizer.
Reminds me of voltage/frequency curve in MSI Afterburner for Nvidia GPU's but way easier to tinker with.
Hello, I have a X570 i aorus and 5950x with liquid freezer 2 280mm and fans set to 100%.
Just with PBO enable during all core cinebench temps are 57° and 26 264 score.
If I set PBO limits to motherboard and start cinebench all core it instantly crash, can't turn off with power button, need to turn off power supply.
I have the last agesa update.
Do you have any idea?
Thanks.
Have you set anything in curve optimizer, in addition to raising the PBO boost ceiling?
@@MachinesMore Thanks for your reply, no I reset the bios, unable xmp and just set pbo limits to motherboard.
Interesting... you might want to set manual limits or leave on auto- it's possible that the motherboard limits are incorrect and that is causing too much power and current to be supplied. I think leaving that on auto might make it better, where I'd spend time tweaking would be curve optimizer and increase boost frequencies if desired.
@@MachinesMore yes in auto cinebench R20 all core boost only to 4.1 GHz =( with PPT TDC EDC set to 190 it crash after 1 minute. This guy has 4.7 all core ruclips.net/video/EtrCJn6Fr3o/видео.html
Thanks for not including the fan curve
What case is that?
ncase m1 maybe.
Sliger S620.