THE DUTY OF EVERY MINISTER: The Story of Olaf & Jayne
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- Опубликовано: 23 май 2024
- When brothers disagree on doctrine, it is "the duty of every minister" to open the Scriptures and "weigh every argument." (Lt21-1888). When a brother approached Olaf with arguments against the doctrine of the trinity, Olaf earnestly studied the Scriptures to understand his position so he could show him his error. Olaf could never have known how his earnest desire and efforts for the salvation of his brother would become a blessing to himself in the most unexpected way. Join Olaf and Jayne as they share how God led them through their disappointments and fears, and by miracles and dreams, answered His promise to them, "ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart." (Jeremiah 29:13)
"If a brother differs with you on some points of truth, do not stoop to ridicule; do not place him in a false light or misconstrue his words, making sport of them; do not misinterpret his words and wrest them of their true meaning. This is not conscientious argument. Do not present him before others as a heretic, when you have not with him investigated his positions, taking the Scriptures text by text in the spirit of Christ to show him what is truth. You do not yourself really know the evidence he has for his faith, and you cannot clearly define your own position. Take your Bible, and in a kindly spirit weigh every argument that he presents and show him by the Scriptures if he is in error. When you do this without unkind feelings, you will do only that which is your duty and the duty of every minister of Jesus Christ." (Lt21-1888)
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* 'Southern Watchman' reference should be 'Southern Review'
HalleluYAH! All SDA pastors need to see this and the other Judgement Hour videos! Excellent work brother Michael!!
I want Olaf to know how much his testimony has meant to me today. Its Sabbath mornings, and I've been wrestling with going to church at all for months. I have 2 children, and am desperate to place us all in an environment that will encourage and prepare us for what is just ahead. I understand this truth of the Father & Son, but have tried to hang on to the SDA organization for all the reasons your wife articulated. This has caused me to censor myself dispite my strong convictions. In doing so I feel like I have dishonored God and have for years felt my grip on Jesus loosening. I think the greatest pain came from the fact that nobody I love has bothered to even try to sit down and study with me, thus causing me to retreat from fellowship. Please pray with me for victory! Thank you for this powerful video!❤
Hello 😊 Sabbath blessings. I am sorry to hear your struggles. I’m sorry to hear also that no one has studied with you.
Can I share a share a Sister White statement with you that will hopefully bring you peace about withdrawing from fellowship?
You've been blessed to know this truth - please walk on this path even if it's just you, wait no longer. I am alone as well...but I am more joyful than ever before knowing this truth.
Advent interfaith development...? Do you have a website?
@marcomonti4231 No, I have had a RUclips Channel for years, and have touch on these issues publicly years ago.
@@Natalia-jq7hr I would love to read anything you would like to share!
All who embrace this message has a cross to carry. The cross of losing your friends and more!
So worth it!
²² Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake.
²³ Rejoice ye in that day, and leap for joy: for, behold, your reward is great in heaven: for in the like manner did their fathers unto the prophets.
*-Luke 6:22, 23*
They weren't really your friends...
499 - *What a Friend We Have in Jesus*
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What a friend we have in Jesus,
All our sins and griefs to bear!
What a privilege to carry
Everything to God in prayer!
Oh, what peace we often forfeit;
Oh, what needless pain we bear
All because we do not carry
Everything to God in prayer!
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Have we trials and temptations?
Is there trouble anywhere?
We should never be discouraged
Take it to the Lord in prayer.
Can we find a friend so faithful
Who will all our sorrows share?
Jesus knows our every weakness
Take it to the Lord in prayer.
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Are we weak and heavy laden,
Cumbered with a load of care?
Precious Savior, still our refuge
Take it to the Lord in prayer.
*Do thy friends despise, forsake thee?*
Take it to the Lord in prayer.
In His arms He’ll take and shield thee;
Thou will find a solace there.
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Blessed Savior, Thou hast promised
Thou wilt all our burdens bear;
May we ever, Lord, be bringing
All to Thee in earnest prayer.
Soon in glory bright, unclouded,
There will be no need for prayer-
Rapture, praise, and endless worship
Will be our sweet portion there.
...Through all our trials we have a never-failing Helper. He does not leave us alone to struggle with temptation, to battle with evil, and be finally crushed with burdens and sorrow. Though now He is hidden from mortal sight, the ear of faith can hear His voice saying, *Fear not; I am with you." "I am He that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive forevermore." "I have endured your sorrows, experienced your struggles, encountered your temptations. I know your tears; I also have wept. The griefs that lie too deep to be breathed into any human ear, I know. Think not that you are desolate and forsaken. Though your pain touch no responsive chord in any heart on earth, look unto Me, and live. "The mountains shall depart, and the hills be removed; but My kindness shall not depart from thee, neither shall the covenant of My peace be removed, saith the Lord that hath mercy on thee."*
*-The Desire of Ages 483.1*
God is teaching His flock all over the world and the sheep are hearing His voice. Here in Brazil there are many who reject this wine of Babylon "the Trinity". I became anti trinitarian last year.
I enjoy and share many of your videos. They're very instructive. I appreciate your efforts in producing them. Praise God!
Keep going. Just in Heaven you are gonna have an idea of how many people came to reject Trinity through your work.
I wanna meet you in Heaven and give you a big hug, my dear brother. 🤗😉
Thank you so much
Olaf was my pastor in Taft, Ca. He was both a good pastor and friend to me. Our weekly meetings for council when I was going through divorce absolutely changed my life. Good man right here. The most honest pastor and friend I’ve ever had.
2 hours and 17 min of viewing... well invested.
It is very encouraging to see others go through a similar experience to our own.
Brother or sister. I appreciate when you comment because I know you follow/understand this topic and I’ve seen you defend this topic when other people speak out of ignorance in regards to this. I appreciate that. I’ve been seeing a lot of ministries talk bad about people who believe this Bible truth. Ministries that I used to follow like amazing word and truth triumphant have decided to go on a tirade about OtG believers. It’s really sad. And the people in their comments are just as deceived smh
@@primetime4754 Amen Mr. primetime...I am a defender, strictly...one who guards the Law.
'Here are they that keep [ Tereo- Greek- to guard ] the commandments.' Rev 14:12
AMEN.
@@primetime4754 But for the grace of God there go we
@@canadiancontrarian3668
yes, we do keep to commandments through the power is strength and grace that lives in us, the spirit of Our Heavenly Father through His Son.
I have to watch twice: once with my wife and the other with my kids, to discuss the whole issue. This testimony is very enouraging and I share similar experience as well.
Thank you so much Lord. Thank you for the opportunity to experience your Truth. Thank you God for your servants all over the world who are vindicating Truth.
Please God, continue revealing unto us your true ways and Father please help us establish, The Restoration of the Seventh-Day Adventistst's Original Pillars and Fundamental Principles of Faith. In Jesus Christ's name we pray. Amen
The most powerful and beautiful testimony I've ever watched. Praise be to God!
I can feel their honesty, sincerity and humility. This testimony video is worth sharing. To God be the glory!
19:05 When he describes how he heard letter 66 and how that made him pause, etc, it brought me back to when I first heard John 17:3. What an experience.
I'm just overjoyed with how God deals with us. Thank you Jesus.
1:05:00 the answer to the heavenly trio, the three powers, etc. Wow, what a wonderful experience and testimony. Thank you. God blessed you with a wife who was willing to listen and follow Him instead of rebellious and follow the world. That is such a blessing.
Happy Sabbath... I opened the Sabbath by listening to this powerful testimony and I am having a deep and strong conviction but just like our brother Olaf i am going to study this for myself 🙂
Please keep me in your prayers.
Praying 🤲🏽 with & for you
Will be keeping you in prayer. God definitely wants you to know His Truth so study and pray. He is faithful to answer us.🙏🙏🙏
I'm praying for you also. God is the Keeper of all Truth, and He wants nothing more than to give it away. May His blessings be spilled out all over your life.
In looking for truth 1 John 2 states "No lie is of the truth". Look at what is true and what is not! The truth will shine forth.
I certainly will. 🙏🏽😊
The church’s best days, by far, are just ahead. But buckle up, folks.
How pleasant and lovely the testimony ❤️
watched this today on the Sabbath Day. WOW, this was an AMAZING Testimony. Enjoyed it ALOT. Praise GOD Always !!! Keep up the GREAT Content . GOD BLESS !!!
Wow loved this testimonial! God is good all the time ♥️🌹
I'm not a Seventh Day Adventist, but I am a Biblical Unitarian, and I love your videos. God bless you.
thus saith ChatGPT:
Biblical Unitarianism is a Christian theological perspective that emphasizes the oneness of God and rejects the traditional doctrine of the Trinity. Here are the key beliefs of Biblical Unitarianism:
God is One: Biblical Unitarians believe that God is a single person, not a Trinity. They hold that God the Father is the only true God.
Jesus Christ: They believe that Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God, but not God Himself. Jesus is seen as a human being who was uniquely anointed by God and exalted to a special status, but He is not considered to be God or co-equal with God.
Holy Spirit: The Holy Spirit is viewed not as a separate person within a Trinity but as God's active force or presence.
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is that accurate?
I believe that the difference is that they and Jehovah's Witnesses do not believe in the Divinity of Jesus. (Yet He is Divine because He is somehow the Son of God even before Creation. He is Divine as my children are human because I am.) God bless!
Please become one with Seventh-Day Adventists
@@MissionaryPrincessAnna-oi1ur pfft LOL!!
You really think that will be enough to convince him? Do you want him to join your church because you say so or because the biblical evidence commands his conscience? I support the latter exclusively.
Anybody who is worthy of the Kingdom of God will operate according to righteous judgment which demands objective evidence not just trusting in people's opinions.
Glory be to God!
He is calling His children to the marvellous light of truth!
“Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.”
God bless you richly in your ministry dear brother!
We will share this video!!!! 🙏❤️
At 42:57 as Michael was listening to Pastor Olaf's faith and testimony, his face was glowing with the presence of the Lord and I was too! Praise the Lord!!!!
Thanks Michael, Olaf and Jane for a very encouraging testimony. Michael, keep up the good work and everyone have a Blessed and peaceful Sabbath.
Amen 🙏🏽❤❤❤
This is so powerful. Praise our heavenly Abba Father and His only begotten Son Jesus Christ. It's a blessing to know God and Christ Jesus, and to a have a personal relationship far away from the doctrine of the Trinity deception. Such doctrine mocks the infinite cost of our salvation, by rendering the divine nature we're to be partake of as another being not the Father and His Son, such perdition, Mercy! Thanks so much for sharing.
“And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. ”Revelation 12:11 KJV
Such a beautiful testimony! ❤
thank you......Aloha to Olaf and Jayne....
THIS VIDEO IS A MUST WATCH & SHARE ❤❤❤❤
“On some occasions the Spirit of God would come upon me, and difficult portions were made clear through God’s appointed way, and then there was perfect harmony.” Testimonies to Ministers, p. 25. RH July 26, 1892
I totally agree with this video. What I don't understand is why ppl like Randy Skeet, Doug Bachelor, Walter, Tim Rumsey etc can't see it??
Blinded because entrenched in their paradigm! Like Nicodemus, they must be born again, to erase the old hard drive and receive a new one to be written the truth upon.
That's why Jesus said : Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven. Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven." Matthew 18 v. 3, 4
@@astronome92 well said 👏
Agreed and so very sad 😢 (I am fearful for them! Also because the judgment starts at the house of the Lord!)to see that they are unwilling to actually look and study into the reasons people are able to see through the Adventist history which was REWRITTEN by the enemy - which is why these men have been blinded and unable to believe certain facts, such as that our pioneers were unanimously non-trinitarian… just as the apostles unanimously kept the Sabbath because of the times they were in! It makes all the difference when you read things from the authors point of view. In EGW case she was non-trinitarian and is Paul’s case he believed in the one true God the Father and his son and he knew well the spirit was a part of God’s omnipresence- as he read Old Testament verses such as David saying ‘please do not take your spirit from me’… he knew well there was no other guy who was a spirit apart from God the Father and Jesus, his son.
@@beaelleess3892 👏👏🙏🙏
Especially Tim Rumsey.
One would think there is or should be hope for him.
Although his latest video reveals that he is quite entrenched in the mainline dogma.
Is he under the umbrella and payroll of the denomination?
I hope not.
He at least shows in his presentations the old logo of the three angels.
We Need More Pastors As These.
The Pioneers with the help of the Holy Spirit through Ellen they blieved
God is coming soon for His children. Truth must be heard that His children may be sealed and settled in the truth.
Thanks for sharing. We would like for you to interview Ed as well. I’m curious to know how he came to received the doctrine that was given to our pioneers by Jesus himself.
God Bless "Judgement Hour"! Thank You for Opening many eyes. Happy Sabbath, May the Peace and Wisdom of our Lord Jesus Christ, (who is SOON to return), be forever in your Hearts and Minds, Amen. Be Strong! Be Blessed!
What a wonderful testimony. Thanks Michael, Olaf and Jayne for sharing two hours with me. I''m so glad you were open to study for yourself. Thanks to Ed too. It is sad to see people in the SDA church ignorant of Bible Truth. They seem to be lazy and just accept whatever is preached from the pulpit. Generally they don't have a clue about the Bible Truth. Let's hope that this changes. The truth is always to truth. Thanks for your ministry Michael.
This is a very good video. Thank you. I am still a little surprised every time I hear people say they have discovered the Father and the Son and that they were confused by it. It is so clear throughout the Bible. Yes, we must be willing to give up everything for truth, this is true, the least of which is social friends. Adventists need to get out of their bubbles and learn to study for themselves, learn to stand on their own, and drive down those spiritual roots very deeply now. Everything that can be shaken will be shaken. Yes, there are many small groups outside the church. By the way, what ever happened to the "let the wheat and the tares grow together" ? I guess the present day corporate church has tossed that aside because anyone who does not agree with them, they rip out. Oh how times have changed and this is the tip of the iceberg.
Wonderful testimony. Truly blessed to be able to view & hear this. I was very moved and this brought back memories when our Father and Savior began shaking me out of the corporate church, and being put out of my local congregation.
Have been praising my Abba Father and His only begotten Son ever since. We are going home soon.
This is one of the great testimonies I have ever watched on Sabbath evening. All thanks to God.
Brother, we are eagerly waiting for part 2 of this testimony, I was left hanging, I still wish to know how he interacted again with Eddy( the brother who shared with him the DVD) and some other inspiring details to hear about his experience with the elders.
I was attentive and focused throughout.
Outstanding Video!! Thank you Michael, Olaf, and Jayne for sharing this with us.
Thank you so much for your testimony ❤️
This is happening everywhere… many don’t know it. They(SDA conference and followers) are keeping it under wraps. My husband(elder)and I(counsel member) were asked to leave as well… no studying. Before that we were asked not to talk about it, or we would be asked to leave. Those in the church are being lied to on so many levels. Praise the Lord that you listened to the voice of the Lord.
REVIEW AND HERALD, AUGUST 26, 1890
THE REASON WHY THE CHURCHES ARE WEAK AND SICKLY AND READY TO DIE, is that the enemy has brought influences of a discouraging nature to bear upon trembling souls. He [Satan] HAS SOUGHT TO SHUT JESUS FROM THEIR VIEW AS THE COMFORTER, as one who reproves, who warns, who admonishes them, saying, "This is the way, walk ye in it"
Until recently, I attended SDA churches, but something (God ?) always stopped me from becoming a baptised member. Now, that I have learned the OTG truth, I am glad I never joined. I have so many friends from my years in SDA that I am able to freely share with.
I'm so sorry to know this video brought you to that decision. However, I would like to personally encourage you that if a denomination is sharing truth as it is in the Bible, even if there are some areas of question, remember we are humans and many of us are still trying to understand the Scriptures. Please don't let this deter you from giving your life to God. This is what the devil wants, he wants others who are of the faith and those not of the faith to become discouraged, confused, angry and wondering is this the true or right church?
I can assure you this church carries the distinctive mark of what the Bible describes in Rev. 12:17, who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ and Rev. 19:10 explains what the testimony of Jesus Christ is.....the Spirit of Prophecy. If you can find a church with those distinctive mark, join and become a member. Satan will always come in God's true church to cause trouble in different aspects. Ensure the word of God is your first guide and after the spirit of prophecy is only to help understand better the Scriptures. Anything we read if it doesn't line up with the word of God we can be sure it didn't come from God, it was tampered with by the enemy of souls. I hope my words have brought some clarity and will help you to turn to God in prayer for the right decision to make. God bless you my dear.🙏
Mary, the truths of the Bible God has kept safe and sound all through the millennia, by many repositories. The descendants of Adam in the direct antedeluvian lineage to Noah, Abraham's descendants, the apostolic church through the unofficial apostolic succession of alpine Valdesi, the Great reformation, the Wesleys, puritans. Today His repository is the remnant church of that long unrecognized apostolic succession, the seventh-day Adventist church. All the deception and confusion that lies ahead can be safely navigated by our adherence to the gift of prophecy to Ellen White, and by the Spirit of our personal Saviour. She is so authoritative that not a nail is to be moved in the 200,000 handwritten page platform that Jesus has bequeathed to our generation, quite possibly the generation that will be involved with fulfilling all that Jesus prepared His people for. The other protestant denominations have light and truth. But because they have given up on reforming and the conflicts that always come with reforms they fell under the influence of their old enemy from the dark ages. They are Ecumenized and "love to have it so".
But more reforms are necessary, not because Mrs . White got the signals mixed up, but because of corporate backsliding. So it's time for a new reform in the remnant church, i.e. Godhead reform. And there may be more, but probably they will come gradually. But they will all have the tendency of what Jeremiah and Ellen White said, "Thus saith the LORD, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls." (Jeremiah 6:16). But the same tendencies to cling to the new theologies, which cause the unstudied to cling to falsehoods that arose during a former period of darkness and ignorance reaction, will create a reaction to the foundational theology. "They sacrificed unto devils, not to God; to gods whom they knew not, whom your fathers feared not." (Deut. 32:17).
And so many say the same as was said by the people of God ancienly, "We will not walk therein." (Jer. 6:16).
The church is wrong about this one point of important doctrine but the church is not Babylon and goes through to the end along with all the genuine Seal of God, Spirit of Christ filled believers 🙏
Signed OTG believer and former member of the SDA Church 🙏🕊🍇
There is a seeming paradox here, when we say the Church is not Babylon, and the church is going through. Are we talking about the corporate organization of the SDA Church, or the Church, the body of believers who are true to doctrines and principles that embrace belief in the law of God, who is not a Trinity, but the one true God, and recognize that He has only one literal begotten Son !
The fourth commandment , to worship on the Holy Sabbath day, Saturday, which identifies the true creator of everything, the Judge of all the earth, the God who has given us the promise of eternal life, but has shown by the sacrifice of His Son that there is sin in this world, and He who lived a truly obedient and sinless life died in my stead to pay for the result of disobedience, which is eternal death, but because He is the sinless One, death could not hold Him! So he gives us the gift of eternal life! I recognize that death is an unconscious sleep, but it becomes eternal and total annihilation in eternity to the lost who refuse God's gift of obedience and life. The doctrines upheld by the early SDA Church, belief in soul sleep 'til the second coming of Jesus, the Judgement of God's people before His Second Advent, the sealing,the gift of the Spirit of Prophecy, to mention some, will be held by true believers, when there probably won't be any longer an organized SDA CHURCH! The body of believers will make up the true church whether there is a general conference headquarters or not, and this invisible body of believers will make up God's church to the end! THEY WILL BE SEVENTH DAY ADVENTISTS!
@glendawazdatskey1314 Totally agree, there is always a remnant where the Spirit of Truth dwells not bowing their knee to baal🙏
What a wonderful testimony. God is working in a mighty way. Looking forward to your next video Michael. God bless.
Exellent!!!
“That CHRIST should MANIFEST Himself to them, and yet be INVISIBLE to the world, was a MYSTERY to the disciples. They could not understand the words of CHRIST in their spiritual sense. They were thinking of the outward, visible manifestation. They could not take in the fact that they could have the PRESENCE of CHRIST with them, and yet HE BE UNSEEN BY THE WORLD. THEY DID NOT UNDERSTAND THE MEANING OF A SPIRITUAL MANIFESTATION.” - Ellen White, Reflecting Christ, p. 129.2 {SW September 13, 1898, par. 2}
Greetings from the father and son believers fromGgermany.
Awesome testimony. I was raised catholic, but never believed in trinity because it made no sense. The Bible says God the father and Jesus is his only begotten son. The spirit is not spoken of because it is them.
All glory to God. A very interesting testimony
I would encourage all to download the Fundamental beliefs from 1872 and prayerfully compare them to the current beliefs and review them one by one...line by line. In doing so keep the following scriptures in mind. Isaiah 8:20, 1 Thess 5:21, 1 John 4:1, Acts 17:11, 2 Tim 4:1-3 and 2 Tim 2:15.
It is amazing what God will show you if you approach Him with a humble and teachable heart. He will show you who He is beyond a shadow of a doubt. If we trust in man we will be cursed and will depart from the Lord. Jer 17:5. I praise God for this video but encourage all to seek on their own while the Lord can be found. If we seek God will reveal.
*Fundamental Principles of 1872,*
not the Fundamental Beliefs of 1872.
@@Exodus20Ten -
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"That there is one God, a personal, spiritual being, the creator of all things, omnipotent, omniscient, and eternal, infinite in wisdom, holiness, justice, goodness, truth, and mercy; unchangeable, and everywhere present by his representative, the Holy Spirit. Psalm 139:7. FP1872 4.2
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That there is one Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Eternal Father, the one by whom God created all things, and by whom they do consist; that he took on him the nature of the seed of Abraham for the redemption of our fallen race; that he dwelt among men full of grace and truth, lived our example, died our sacrifice, was raised for our justification, ascended on high to be our only mediator in the sanctuary in Heaven, where, with his own blood he makes atonement for our sins; which atonement so far from being made on the cross, which was but the offering of the sacrifice, is the very last portion of his work as priest, according to the example of the Levitical priesthood, which foreshadowed and prefigured the ministry of our Lord in Heaven. See Leviticus 16; Hebrews 8:4, 5; 9:6, 7; etc. FP1872 4.3
-III-
That the Holy Scriptures, of the Old and New Testaments, were given by inspiration of God, contain a full revelation of his will to man, and are the only infallible rule of faith and practice."
*Principles and beliefs are not interchangeable.*
The Fundamental Principles are the pillars of the Advent faith. They are unchangeable and not voted upon because they are from the Word of God, whereas the beliefs are not necessarily Scriptural, and are voted upon and changed.
Again just making reference that there is a difference between the *Fundamental "Principles" of 1872* and the *27 Fundamental "Beliefs"* voted in 1980 with the 28th belief voted in 2005. 😞
The enemy of souls has sought to bring in the supposition that a great reformation was to take place among Seventh-day Adventists, and that this reformation would consist in giving up the doctrines which stand as the pillars of our faith, and engaging in a process of reorganization. Were this reformation to take place, what would result? *¹The principles of truth that God in His wisdom has given to the remnant church,* would be discarded. ²Our religion would be changed. ³The *"fundamental principles"* that have sustained the work for the last fifty years would be accounted as error.* ⁴A new organization would be established. ⁵Books of a new order would be written. ⁶A system of intellectual philosophy would be introduced. ⁷The founders of this system would go into the cities, and do a wonderful work. ⁸The Sabbath, of course, would be lightly regarded, as also the God who created it. ⁹Nothing would be allowed to stand in the way of the new movement. ¹⁰The leaders would teach that virtue is better than vice, but God being removed, they would place their dependence on human power, which, without God, is worthless. ¹¹Their foundation would be built on the sand, and storm and tempest would sweep away the structure.
*-SpTB02 54.3*
Who has authority to begin such a movement? We have our Bibles. We have our experience, attested to by the miraculous working of the Holy Spirit. We have a truth that admits of no compromise. Shall we not repudiate everything that is not in harmony with this truth?
*-SpTB02 55.1*
I find interesting how ANGRY some Trinitarians get when presented with non-trinity evidence. That's been our experience. If our friend hadn't coded in the hospital and been home recuperating and watching videos on RUclips to share with us, we would never have been told about the one true God.
Wow! God has amazing ways to reach those who are open
Ironically amazing word ministries is trying to spin it by posting “comments from non-trinitarians” that they are the angry ones. Smh such deception
All through history “Anger” has been the response to truth - beginning with Cain and Abel.
Not a humble teachable spirit
Thank You Brother Michael,Pastor Olaf and Jane for sharing this beautiful testimony; praise the Father and the Son forever! I live in the southwest of Florida, if anyone knows a small group of believers for Sabbath worship gathering please let me know.
I know someone who just txted me who has a small group in Tampa Bay Area. New port Richey area. You can email me via our website and I can send you his info so you can get in touch if you would like. Blessings~
Please send me information brother Michael
“When they came to the point in their study where they said, ‘We can do nothing more,’ the Spirit of the Lord would come upon me, I would be taken off in vision, and a clear explanation of the passages we had been studying would be given me…” Selected Messages vol. 1, p. 206.
CIHS 6.2
Correction. When she said bright lights will go dim. She’s talking about the celebrity pastors in Adventism like Batchelor,Finley etc. that preach the Trinity doctrine. In other words Kellog 2.0 theology.
Exactly
What am amazing testimony
I am from Indonesia, i became anti trinitarian in earliest this year because study One True God from yoh173 channel... Thanks to all of you...
Praise the Lord!
Without a correct understanding and a correct image of God and his only begotten Son, we will never understand the gospel(the Faith of Jesus, the doctrine of Christ)… or the 3 Angels messages. May Christ be in you the hope of glory!
Praise God the Father and his Son Christ!!!
The “[t]hird person *of* the Godhead” *does not mean* a third person *in* the Godhead. *The “third person of the Godhead” was understood by Ellen White to be none other than the glorified life of Christ [His very own life],* - *not another individual being different to Christ and the Father.*
*The phrase “third person of the Godhead” from the Desire of Ages is frequently quoted.* - *In the original manuscript the word *‘‘third”* was written *in lower case.* as above. - *Ellen White never wrote the phrase “third person” in capitals.* - *Since her death, however, it has been reprinted in capitals by the publishers.*
Good day Brother Olif and Family.
your testimony is an anchor for each of us, especially our highly placed Teachers, under the same circumstances, gave up their position for the sake of the truth of the Word. So our Almighty Father is repairing His roads and bridges step by step. Good luck with the new level of your spiritual growth. shalum Gerty South Africa.
Beautiful testimony. The title is very relevant. I pray other leaders will consider Olafs council to them.
What a wonderful testimony, thank you Michael, Olaf and Jane, this was so incredibly inspiring. Friday was very challenging for us, we had to euthanatize our much beloved 10 year old Great Dane. Your presentation helped to lift my very sad heart, what a beautiful way to spend the last remaining hours of Sabbath.
I’m so sorry to hear about your beloved pet and so thankful to God He soothed your hearts with this testimony ☺️❤️
I had to make the same decision last December with my beloved kitty of 16 years who had kidney cancer. It was one of the worst days of my life. I understand the pain. I pray that Jesus our comforter and your comforter will grant you peace that surpasses understanding in this time of grief 🙏🏻❤️
@@Natalia-jq7hr thank you for your kind words of support. I’m sorry to hear that you also lost your beloved companion, 16 was a good age for a kitty cat. Having to make the choice to take life of a pet is a most horrific thing, even though it is the kindest thing to do. But praise God we have those special memories to take with us. Our pet companions each leaves a special mark with their unique characters, and personalities.
@@onlytruth4me915yes indeed. I praise God for the gift of animals ☺️❤️🙏🏻
@@Natalia-jq7hr Amen
"When the power of God testifies as to what is truth, that truth is to stand forever as the truth. No after suppositions contrary to the light God has given are to be entertained. Men will arise with interpretations of Scripture which are to them truth, but which are not truth. The truth for this time, God has given us as a foundation for our faith. He Himself has taught us what is truth. One will arise, and still another, with new light which contradicts the light that God has given under the demonstration of His Holy Spirit. {CW 31.2}
Praise God. 🙌
Wonderful. Amen and Shalom. Our God, the fahther ist geat and his begotten son, Jeshua.
Please carry on with your message there are hungry souls out there who need to hear the truth.
So what happen to Ed, do share his story with us too. God bless.
Yes my brother indeed it is ,but you know God is not going to bring us so far and leave us now, and I praise God that he does not leave us without a witness ,people are coming out and embracing the one true God message ,praise and a lot more is there to come .
Amen!
So I went to that church he's talking about online at 1:29:00 And I'm not seeing any area that says to find a location near me.
Does anybody have any ideas about that?
Thank you so much and Shabbat Shalom to you all
😊
I believe this is not just a Theological Issue but is an Experience with Christ
Divine, YHWH
Divine, Begotton Son
Divine, Holy Spirit, the great comforter united in ❤
I have loved every one of Michaels videos. I've watched them again and again. This particular video is one of the most encouraging! What a beautiful blessing to know the Lord. He is so generous to give us so much Truth!
Michael, Olaf, and Jayne, may God bless you abundantly more than you could ever ask or think! Thanknyou so much for all you do.
Does anyone know of a group in Sonoma County, Northern California? I am literally dying for fellowship with like-minded believers. Im involved in local ministry with the homeless and people in recovery, also giving Bible studies to prepare people for baptism, (and I get to share the whole Truth and nothing but the Truth) but I need to fellowship with people who aren't afraid to Follow the Leader..... blessings on everyone and have a beautiful Sabbath!
Glad you have enjoyed the videos! Closest person I know would be near Auburn, CA. Still a ways from you though I think.
amen amen
@@JudgmentHour LOL i used to live in auburn, ca.
had to move to pioneer, CA a year ago.
that's closer to Sacramento tho.
im ina zoom meeting right now with the 7th Day church of Revelation that olaf was talkin about.
very strange that the promoters and defenders of this god the holy spirit and the trinity doctrine who is supposed to coequal part of the Government of God, refuse to and cannot see that he/it the god the holy spirit is not partaking in the governmental activities of the Government of Heaven. Check these two references.
He is not involved with the spreading of the Gospel
Rev. 1:1
The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:
He is not a witness to the final destruction of the wicked/
Rev. 14:10
The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
Amen. These things are happening everywhere. To those who have decided to stand for the truth. God will confirm and reward their faith.
But beloved let's not sleep here. This is the most dangerous platform to sleep on. Peculiar days of trials are before every true disciple of Jesus. As the true church begins to appear in constrast to the worldliness of the lovers of the world, Rev 12:17 will meet with its fulfilment..."And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ."
1:59:00 I really appreciate this principle that keeps getting repeated. Where if we love our brother, we will seek to understand their position in order to correct them if we truly believe they are in error. I have certain beliefs about the sovereignty of God that are wholesale rejected by Adventists and ex- Adventists and like this brother's testimony they refuse to examine these things and study them out with me. It's shameful and very grievously discouraging and sad to say the least. You would think that people who were treated this way would not treat others the same way that they were treated when they were disfellowshipped and excommunicated from the seventh day Adventist Church. And yet they're treating other brothers the same way... brothers like me. I have begged and pleaded with people to uphold this principle of caring enough about me to understand my position and help me see the error of my ways, if that is what in fact has happened. None of them had responded according to this principle.
Not only do they refuse to examine these things for themselves or seek to understand my position clearly in order to correct me, but they've told me that they don't want to hear anything about what I have to say, and I've been told not to contact any of the other brothers and sisters regarding these things that I believe that they disagree with.
Talk about censorship! smh...
This is how the Catholic Church gets things done.
Good video content 👍
The Lord is always riding the van
Amen yes 1872 and the 1889.
John 10:16
And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold; them also must I bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be One fold, and One Shephard.
I really like this woman's testimony especially her second dream. This is the curse that God cursed all women with back in Genesis chapter 3:16. What's interesting is he says your desire shall be for your husband and he shall rule over you and this exact phrase is repeated in chapter four verse 7 when God is speaking to Cain because Cain was hating his brother and planning to kill him. He says to Cain that sin lies at the door and its desire is for him but he should rule over it. Almost verbatim from Genesis 3:16. This desire that sin has too control and possess us is the same desire that women have been cursed to have since Eve wanted to run the show back in the garden of Eden. Women have this curse and that needs to be crucified specifically. It's really reaffirming to hear this woman come to this understanding full circle. Even if she's not referencing the bible... i can see it.
wonderful message, once more revealed: the truth stands alone.....needs no force nor disguise.
Joh 8,32: And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free......36: If the Son therefore shall make you free, you shall be free indeed.
thanks for sharing!
But be aware that there are still other truths out there, that Jesus wants us to discover.......it´s not ending here.
Take this attitude shared here....to all the next things that must be tested with open mind and heart.
For example the "Discoveries" of Ron Wyatt have great and far reaching impact and are far away of being minor issues.
"The Church" rejects them, but I would encourage you to make up your own mind......as I did.
Connected Names would be: Rebecca Tourniaire(Ark files) and Jonathan Gray(RUclips)
1. Thes 5,21: Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
I just moved close to Northern Idaho and have been looking for OTG church. Can you tell me is there a church near
Hi Brenda, please get in touch with us via our website or email and we can share some options with you. Blessings~
Persuading men outside is not persuasion scripture speaks of.
Duty of the Congregation on the Day of Atonement
There shall come among you wolves in sheep clothing, not sparing the flock. Acts 20: 29
2:17:37 2:17:37
May you show me the video he watched please? Thanks
The video that Olaf watched was this 2 part series:
But Whom Say Ye That I Am?
Part 1:
ruclips.net/video/_AhyUGyrvI0/видео.htmlsi=xLY4c22MWbyAyBo8
Part 2:
ruclips.net/video/_Fbe0eh81zw/видео.htmlsi=2RlovJIr_deEaOSO
Nice testimony. It puzzles me though, why 2. Corinthians 3:17, 18 (look at the greek) is not brought up before the (trinitarian) elders. What scripture can be more decisive on Who the Spirit is - and Paul even says it twice. Even with the Bible, and the Bible only these two verses (and remember, in the original there are no verse numbers) should be compelling to any true christian. It cannot be refuted, only denied and rejected.
That scripture was shared with the elders. Olaf spent many hours with multiple meetings.
@@jayneme Ahh. Good. It just wasn’t part of the presentation here. It amazes me (even thoug maybe it shouldn’t), that elders in the church refuse to acknowledge scripture that is so clear. Also the first few verses in Hebrews cannot leave You in doubt regarding the Status, Position and Origin of Christ before “the world was”.
Thank You for replying.
@@michaelbj1166 Indeed, as I commented above :
They are blinded because entrenched in their paradigm! Like Nicodemus, they must be born again, to erase the old hard drive and receive a new one to be written the truth upon.
That's why Jesus said : Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven. Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven." Matthew 18 v. 3, 4
Did anyone put his references in the comments?
Michael wait till God Sheds light on the Last verse of Daniel chapter 11.
Does anyone know if there are any believers in canada-alberta?
Yes...me.
His name is Elohim
If you already believed in the Father and the Son, why should a new understanding of the Spirit’s identity make that much difference in closeness to God? -as said in the end of the video.
I think that is because our theologians say it is not a literal Son, but a metaphorical son. And the Comforter is not Jesus, but part of an impersonal godhead!
Because this 3rd person (in the trinity) is not Jesus … our very Saviour is the one who is meant to be ‘Christ in us’, Emanuel - God with us - Jesus himself is the the Holy Spirit. But when we have a strange god, this third unknown person… who is this? (The question I have is: Who is that guy? … who has set himself up to be as the most high… with God the father - the Almighty and his son?😮 )
We do not want to have a false god… and idol that is philosophical… The connection between the God of Sabbath and the God of Sunday needs to be made clear:
Note - who is the god of Sunday?:
The Douay Catechism of 1649
Q. 1092. What is Sunday, or the Lord's Day in general?
A. It is a day dedicated by the Apostles to the honour of the most holy Trinity, and in memory that Christ our Lord arose from the dead upon Sunday, sent down the holy Ghost on a Sunday, &c. and therefore is called the Lord's Day. It is also called Sunday from the old Roman denomination of Dies Solis, the day of the sun, to which it was sacred.
The Bible tells us that we are to see and know and understand God "by the things that are made".
Romans 1:20
King James Bible
"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:"
We are even to understand His "eternal power and Godhead" by the things that are made. The "invisible things" are "clearly seen", how? BY THE THINGS THAT ARE MADE.
How do living things come about? They are brought forth "after their kind". Every living thing brings forth after its kind.
The Eternal Father God brought forth after His Kind, the God-kind, He brought forth a Son. A DIVINE SON, THE EXPRESS IMAGE OF HIS PERSON.
Even a little child understands the gospel: God had a Son, and He gave His Son to save mankind from their sins. How can a child possibly understand this massive concept? By the things that are made! He sees that fathers beget sons.
God the Father begot a Son just like Himself, a divine God-kind Son. And He gave Him to save us!!
Amen. And the Spirit is likened to oil, water, wind, tongues of fire, rushing wind, can be poured out, sent forth, breathed .... do these represent a coequal being?
@@revelation1790 Amen.
And also likened to food.
Luke chapter 11.
MainStream need one to teach them.
Ellen G White, 1899, Manuscript Releases, Vol. 1 pg. 61.
Those who are preparing to enter the ministry, who desire to become successful students of the prophecies, will find Daniel and the Revelation an invaluable help. They need to understand this book. It speaks of past, present, and future, laying out the path so plainly that none need err therein. Those who will diligently study this book will have no relish for the cheap sentiments presented by those who have a burning desire to get out something new and strange to present to the flock of God. The rebuke of God is upon all such teachers. They need that one teach them what is meant by godliness and truth. The great, essential questions which God would have presented to the people are found in Daniel and the Revelation. There is found solid, eternal truth for this time. Everyone needs the light and information it contains.
Gravity is a theory, not an absolute fact.
The theory works all the time!
It isn't a Theory God has Laws in everything. Law is Order.
1:37:00 Someone who's truly born again cannot be lost. That whole deception contradicts so many scriptures. So many scriptures...
It's one of the other errors that Adventists have been pushing for a long time. It's also a Catholic teaching that they've been pushing for even longer. It's meant to keep people afraid and under control through fear. There's scriptures that contradict that as well. I'm thinking just off the top of my head about John chapter 6 and Romans 8 and the entire epistle of first John et cetera et cetera
2 Peter 2:20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.
1 Timothy 5: 11 But the younger widows refuse: for when they have begun to wax wanton against Christ, they will marry; 12 Having damnation, because they have cast off their first faith.
Romans 11:22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
@@andrewwhite1318 Of course just like every other Adventist and ex-adventist I've ever talked to about this nobody wants to examine all the scriptures that agree with me.
Part 1 of 2
I had to split this into two parts. I hope this answers some of your perplexities.
John 6:40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
"Believeth" is in the present tense, not the past tense. It isn't that a person who ever once believed anytime in the history of their life will have everlasting life. And what does it mean to believe? There are two main ways: believing as in a mental assent only, and believing in the sense of having a trust in Christ. This is why the devils believe and tremble (see James 2:19), yet they have no trust in Christ. Believing in that way only is not unto salvation. Those that trust Christ will allow him into their lives, so that they will go and sin no more.
The Greek word for believe is "pisteuo" G4100 which comes from the Greek word "pistis" G4102, which is faith. "Believe" is just the verb form of the noun "faith". Yet one can leave the faith, as we saw in 1 Timothy 5:12. They can choose to stop believing. That choice is because the love of sin is greater than that person's love for Christ.
1 Corinthians 15: 1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
If all who have believed at any time in the past are to have eternal life, how can anyone have believed in vain?
Galatians 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
17 But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, is therefore Christ the minister of sin? God forbid.
18 For if I build again the things which I destroyed, I make myself a transgressor.
Here "have believed" is in the Aorist tense in the Greek.
From Blue Letter Bible we see this about the Aorist tense:
"Is characterized by its emphasis on punctiliar action; that is, the concept of the verb is considered without regard for past, present, or future time. There is no direct or clear English equivalent for this tense, though it is generally rendered as a simple past tense in most translations. The events described by the aorist tense are classified into a number of categories by grammarians. The most common of these include a view of the action as having begun from a certain point ("inceptive aorist"), or having ended at a certain point ("cumulative aorist"), or merely existing at a certain point ("punctiliar aorist").. . ."
So they had been believing, since they began believing, that they might be justified by the faith of Christ. Does that mean that the can go back to sinning. God forbid! What was destroyed that being built again makes one a transgressor?
Romans 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
This is referring to the born again experience, see the context. Yet one can rebuild that body of sin and again become a transgressor. Sin is the transgression of the law (1 John 3:4). This is the only definition for sin in the whole Bible.
Matthew 24:12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
When the love in the heart becomes cold and one returns to a life of sin, they again need to repent, or they won't be saved.
Revelation 2:4 Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love.
5 Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.
Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
It is whether the person follows (or walks after) the flesh or the Spirit. And they must continue to walk in the Spirit to continue to overcome temptations.
to be continued.....
To understands the Godhead, we need to go back much farther than Ellen white, we need to go back to Jeruzalem.The truth that came out of Jeruzalem after the Apostles recieved the Promise.
Oh man that was such a disappointment...
I was listening to this sabbath sermon by a pastor named Dustin from the church that Olaf was referencing. I'm talking about the 7th day Church of Revelation. So, during that service the pastor kept saying things that were wrong, so I kept pointing out the errors and eventually somebody just idolatrously disabled the chat without warning.
I say idolatrous VERY seriously because that's what it is. When people put themselves and their own understanding before God and his word, that's idolatry. Trusting anything before God is idolatry. So, trusting in one's own understanding by openly defying scripture in a public chat is idolatry. God commands us to test and examine and prove everything, not silence and censor other people who disagree with us. I'm quoting from First Thessalonians 5:21. That one commandment ought to mean the end of all prejudiced and biased opinions and judgments. You'd think that Ex Adventists who had this terrible experience of being censored and silenced and banned from their congregations would be more sensitive about doing that to other people.
smh...
Whoever censored me and disabled the chat for the entire group meeting is guilty of disobeying God's word repeatedly. What kind of group has a healthy sense of discernment while isolating themselves in their idolatrous echo chamber? I watched this excellent sermon by Michael McCaffrey recently. It talks about how a real Christian ought to be able to defend what they believe and hear out the other person who disagrees with them so they might understand that other person so they might reach out and help that other person understand the supposed errors of their ways. Not only does God expect us to care enough about other people to understand them and help them see the error of their ways but also Ellen White reiterates this principle. So, whoever decided to completely shut down any and all communications during this sermon really needs to be removed from their position of authority because they are abusing that authority and their whole group. How are people supposed to develop true discernment if they never get a chance to debate and discuss what they believe and what other people believe and get into the differences and grow their discernment according to scripture to find out what is true and what is false? It's a serious disservice to the God given command to grow in all discernment. The worst thing anyone can do is isolate a group or a person individually.
If I'm speaking error, I would hope that someone would care enough about me to understand where I'm coming from and build that necessary trust and rapport so they can help me understand the error of my ways. That's what love does. It's like the light of God and it shines in the darkness and exposes error and clarifies truth et cetera et cetera. But how can that light shine if someone has idolatrously prejudicely banned all communication like some kind of Catholic inquisition agenda? I am seriously disappointed and discouraged about
accuser of the brethren
@@BlessedIrimayi 1 cor. 6
The SDA church doesn't handle cases like this as well as they should. I personally don't like it when the grieved play the victim card as these two have. Follow their concepts and interpretation and its a combination of Modalism and Catholicism. Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God (Elohim) what does that mean? What Beginning? In the beginning of this planet. It doesn't say, so you have to assume in the Beginning of ALL things- the plural form of the title Elohim is used translated "God". Why the plural form of the word. Its because they were both there and if you believe in the Trinity (not the Catholic Trinity) but 3 separate personality's with one purpose Trinity, they 3 were present from the Beginning. This group is trying to make the relationship human literally not metaphorically, Father Son. First 4 words "In the beginning God" If you can explain what that means in its entirety then you really are a scholar if not join the crowd, this couple need to study more they are just beginning. As Jayne said in the beginning of the video "I don't really understand, I depend on my husbands understanding" its what too many of us do, you had better start studying and learning for yourself-
Hello Mike,
does not Genesis 1 say, that God made man(Adam) in his image?
He formed his image("Adam" 2:7) of the dust of the ground. Adam was only one personal individual.
Paul wrote “For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man."
(1 Corinthians 11:7)
And we can read in Genesis 1:26 that God adresses someone beside him. He does not speak to himself. God was speaking to Christ "who is the express image His(Gods) person"(Hebrews 1:3). We have also abundance testimonies that God created the world through or by Christ, his Son(Ephesians 3:9, Hebrews 1:2, John 1:2)
Moses was also called "elohim" but he is only one personal being. (see Exodus 7:1)?
The truth of the matter is there is One God. Because of this God can represent self as God chooses.
Ephesians 4: 5 - 6
There is One Lord, One Faith, and One Baptism.
One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
1:58:00 Why does Olaf say it's not for another person to persuade anyone?
That's not biblical.
2Co 5:11
Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences.
I cannot speak for Olaf but I believe he was meaning it is not for anyone to forcefully impose his or her opinion upon others but to allow the Scriptures to speak to the mind and convict the conscience.
@@JudgmentHour i can agree with that.
This is ugly. Well done folks. You are perpetuating the enemy's work in dividing the church and you are giving people a hook on which to hang their doubts. I fear for your cases in the judgment.
@Grand07457 oh, I've studied it alright!! What you believe is a special brand of Catholic theology!!!! Do some research and see Augustine's definition of the Holy Spirit. It's the same as yours!
@Grand07457 Oh, I've studied this very carefully. The fact is, you believe a special brand of Catholic theology! Do some research and you will find that Augustine's definition of the Holy Spirit is the same as yours.
The comment you made "this is ugly", I see why only eight people entered the Ark, and the whole world followed after the beast ! As for the rest we are One True God believers having put on the Armour of God, and beieve in Father God and His only begotten Son Jesus Christ praise the Lord.
@@pennyfor1410 your confidence is misplaced, sadly and tragically
1:53:00 Jesus is not omnipresent. Nowhere in the Bible is this taught or even implied. He is present in every one of his children whom God has given to him. But he's not present in unbelievers. That would be ridiculously contradictory. His power of his word upholds creation but that does not mean the same thing as being omnipresent or present in and throughout all that is. Only the father is omnipresent. This is another error that Ellen White was obviously falsely teaching.
Of course not in unbelievers, neither Olaf nor EGW said that. Jesus says Himself : "Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven.20For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them." (Matthew 18:19, 20)
@@astronome92 That verse from Matthew 18 is not talking about whether or not Christ resides in believers. It's all talking about church discipline and his authority. And I do believe in this sermon that he quoted Ellen White talking about Christ being omnipresent which is my whole point. Christ is not omnipresent. he is not present everywhere.
@@pangorbalm8086 My caps are just for highlighting, not yelling 🙂
In English, I understand the word "midst" as meaning "among" or "with" or "between", so If Jesus said that he IS in the MIDST of 2 or 3 of HIS disciples ON EARTH, that means HE IS at ANYTIME, in ANYPLACE, WITH ANY of HIS disciples, which we are, all of us who believe in Jesus as the divine Son of God.
And it's not quite church discipline, but rather applying God's LOVE in forgiving our fellowmen, because His will is that none be lost (v. 14), reason why Jesus says his heavenly Father will treat harshly those who do not forgive, like HIM (v. 35).
And Jesus affirms HIS PRESENCE in the MIDST of those who FORGIVE one another in love and are of one accord to ASK anything of his father (v. 19).
That is how infinitely COHERENT Jesus is, because in John 13 vs.34 - 35, he says we are to love one another, which will show that we are his disciples, and in John 15 v.16 the very same thing as in Matthew 18 v. 19 : whatsoever we'll ask the Father in his name God will give it to us.
Jesus' words, the WORD of God, can never be restricted to some limited understanding or interpretation. God is the one who illuminates what it should mean to us.
Concerning the Father as being the only omnipresent, read in the book of Revelation the following, it says that the Lamb, who is Jesus because his Father's name is written in the foreheads of the 144 000, and that Lamb has the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth, meaning omnipresence :
Rev 1 v. 4, 5 John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne; And from Jesus Christ...
3 v. 1 And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars...
5 v. 6 And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.
14 v. 1 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.
For you meditation
Where the Spirit of Christ is there is Liberty. It was expedient for Jesus to go so that His "Omnipresent" Spirit may come.
Such nonsense. EGW makes it very clear there are 3 comprising the Holy trio. Bright lights like these guys we are told will go out. She also says we are not to worry or try to explain the HS. I feel sorry that people like this try to understand the Godhead other than what SOP and the Bible clearly explain. Another example of “man’s wisdom is foolishness under God”
There are indeed 3 who comprise the God Head. As Jesus has told us, there is ONE true God, His Father. Jesus IS eternal, and yet, IS His Fathers literal Son. That is a mystery, as is the Holy Spirit. I believe it, just as it is written in the Bible and sustained by the Spirit of Prophecy, as seen in the life of Ellen White. The Bible and the Spirit of Prophecy are in perfect harmony on this vital point, God, the Father of His eternal Son.
Correction. When she said bright lights will go dim. She’s talking about the celebrity pastors in Adventism like Batchelor,Finley etc. that preach the Trinity doctrine. In other words Kellog 2.0 theology.
⁶ But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
*-1 Corinthians 8:6*
³ That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.
*-1 John 1:3*
*“The Father and the Son ALONE are to be exalted.”*
-The Youth's Instructor, July 7, 1898
¹⁶ Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.
¹⁷ *Now the Lord is that Spirit:* and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
¹⁸ But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.
*-2 Corinthians 3:16-18*
The Lord is soon to come. We want that complete and perfect understanding which the Lord alone can give. It is not safe to catch the spirit from another.
*"We want the Holy Spirit, which is Jesus Christ."*
-Lt 66, 1894, par. 18
*There is no comforter like Christ,* so tender and so true. He is touched with the feeling of our infirmities. *His Spirit speaks to the heart.*
-RH October 26, 1897, par. 15
*The Saviour is Our Comforter.*
This I have proved Him to be.
-8MR 49.3 -July 16, 1892
*...Believe and abide in the Word of God, not the private interpretation of man, nor the Creed of the man of Sin.*
You heard and saw EGW's words and still you disregard her words. That's just man leaning on his own understanding.....
@lloydclay8947 I'm still waiting for the text that says there is one God in 3 persons...if you have that text, pls post it. the Bible says the complete opposite over and over...
1 Corinthians 8:6 - "Yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live."
This verse clearly identifies one God as the Father and distinguishes between God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
Ephesians 4:6 - "One God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all."
Paul emphasizes the unity and singularity of God, identifying Him as the Father of all.
Malachi 2:10 - "Do we not all have one Father? Did not one God create us? Why do we profane the covenant of our ancestors by being unfaithful to one another?"
This verse highlights the idea of one God as the Father and Creator of all.
John 17:3 - "Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent."
In this verse, Jesus prays to the Father, acknowledging Him as the only true God and differentiating Him from Himself, Jesus Christ.