To not spend all my free time working on guides, I decided to record this guide live on twitch.tv/spider_2b and have my gigachad editor make it pretty, if you guys don't mind this format, guides will probably continue. Thanks for watching! Imma go sleep, I got work in like 6 hours lol. Note: Sometimes I rotate like this: 1. Swap in 2. 3 ping 3. Ult 4. Hold dodge + basic attack to procc grapple matrix 4. Basic attack + blaze orb 3x (can dodge cancel) 5. Ult finish Personally I find this easier to push out damage (at least that's what my muscle memory defaults too) but both rotations have similar damage anyway, so its all about speed.
@@Spider2B That's what I tell myself: don't push yourself too hard, do what feels most comfortable to you. Anyway, this video format is great. I always recommend your guides to my friends as you always know how to explain things in the best possible way.
This format came out really nice actually. It doesnt feel any less informational or entertaining and it still has your style to it. We appreciate you for trying to find a compromise that lets you keep making guides while looking after your own wellbeing.
Happy to see the guides continue! I, for one, do not mind the new "format". Keep it up like this (long as you can mange it, dont burn yourself out) and we'll all be happy little boys and girls. o7
Spider2B Is back. Thanks as always for your amazing guides, since years always watching your PGR Guides and from other PGR content creators. Glad your back :D
Nice guide. Not so polished like it was but still good enough if you and your team can have more personal free time. Feel good watching your guide. Concise and excited to try him once I know how to play.
Glad the 5* weapon still works smh... I tried pulling the 6* one but LOST now I can't afford to use more bc cause Qu😭 Also welcome back and thanks for dropping this guide, your guides are my favorite 😭
thanks for the guide! Great as always, this format is very good, as a very low spender this back to back big units are taking all my black cards away. And if I can give you a sugestion, since you'll be doing this format from now on, maybe a heads up for possible spoilers since you play on the CN servers.
So, I'm just gonna put this here incase I forgot about Epitaph's kit: About the "Hold dodge + basic attack to proc grapple matrix" thing, it's really more like "hold dodge > wait for unc to pull/get pulled > AND THEN press/hold basic attack". I was confused for like 5 minutes straight in the training area trying to proc matrix without success by holding dodge and basic attack at the same time. XD
From trying it out it looks like you need SS to get enough sig energy to get that rotation you explained working. Unless i'm missing something. I have the Cottie 2 piece so not sure what it could be besides that.
Thank you I'm still trying my best to remember how to use his combo properly. It sounds easy but when I played on fast pace I suddenly forgot everything xD
Sadly I'll skip Unc for Qu's long legs, but I'll definitely get him once he's available in the guaranteed selector banner. Old man deserves it since i don't even have a dmg dealer in my fire team aside from....BRS..
question sir, we all know that leap has 3 unlockable passive for each category, and every Level 18 leap passive always have something like "[Passive name] added effect", for example : [Passive: Martyrdom] added effect: After pinging the 3rd set of orbs during [Empyreal Prayer], if there are any remaining Signal Orbs of the same color as the 3rd set of orbs pinged, consume up to 3 Signal Orbs of the same color and increase the Extra DMG Bonus of [Empyreal Prayer] by 5% / 10% / 15% based on the number of orbs consumed. which is the "Martyrdom" refered to liv empyrea's SSS passive name, so the question is, after we leap our character (in this example is Liv) do we get the SSS passive as well? or is it only be benefit if we have the specific rank unlocked? (in this example need to be SSS first). because i only have rosetta, astral, and vera rozen leaped, which their SS/SSS/SSS+ are not changing any gameplay mechanism, basically just get stronger, so i cannot see the difference for now.
He's definitely a must pull in regard of being super meta in two teams, but the problem is Qu releasing right afterwards. Had to skip Qu bc of him on JP and playing the ice-team without her absolutely sucks. I definitely regret pulling him over Qu since Nanamech will be in the S-rank selector during the Luna patch and having her and Qu just seemed the better choice!
You still need lee to make the fire team comparable and/or rival current lightning team and future Ice team Replacing lee to use nanamecha is only because of ppc but ppc will remove its rank and competitive functions in the near future based on the CN info
Great guide as always, but i just have one question. I have two spare 6 star weapons to use for reso, saving one for qu next patch, who should i use the other on? (SS Lee, Liv, and Wata all with sig and no reso).
a quick question please, so i started the game like 50 days ago and i made some mistakes along the way and i didnt equip lamia with cottie and i also didnt equip watanabe with either the shakespeare or cottie 2 pcs, now i have 0 hypertune materials to change their builds and i wanted to ask is the einsteina 2 pc set good or comparable on watanabe to the other options? and if i harmonize 2 pcs einsteina with 2 pcs cottie is it still good or i should chaange them. the one thing i have the most problem right now are hypertune materials and i dont know what to do or how to get enough to hypertune my characters especially with these 2 mistakes and qu releasing next patch (which means i have to also save hypertune materials for her).
hey, i dont understand how the hold dodge and attack works, it doesn't always works, what causes matrix to trigger when holding dodge and basic ? i can't find it in his kit
I got back into the game in this patch, i have only Lee (Hyperreal) on the fire team (No S Nanami). While on the ice i have only Ayla. Should i pick him or save for Qu? (I cant get both since i'm f2p)😢
These are my worst teams since on the physical i have everyone, on the lightning team i don't have Feral, but SS Liv Lux is doing fine in her place. And on the Dark team i have Selena (going to SSS her soon since she's my fav) and Luna with 6* weapon + SSS N21 (i wasn't on the game in Lumias patch and don't see the need to pull for Karerina Scire..) I don't know what to do... and i still have the permanent banner pick-up choice...
i don't know, maybe i can get both watanabe and qu as f2p... since i didn't Srank BRS..... got 25k something BC + 7200 orange tickets, i do have 19k blue tickets, or maybe i just make wrong calc i think lol 😅 edit: my only fire team is hyper lee, and liv empyrea lols XD no nanami starfarer, and not level palefire.
Finally I waited for this content. I have a question, if I don't have Hyperreal, can I use Lee Palefire to rotate a team of Epitaph and Palefire characters? because I want to learn to rotate Palefire and Epitaph teams
@@Morichoradioi got question too. Now my fire team is Empy SS + Sign R2, pale fire SSS+ leaps and nanamech SS + Sign. Who the one is need to be replaced with watanabe on warzone?
@@garennnlzt If you can still tolerate nanamecha's clunky playstyle, Go for hyperreal SS-SS3 + Sig or you can go for watanabe right now and wait for the next anniversary banner to get hyperreal. Hyperreal needs his weapon and SS rank Watanabe doesnt need his weapon but get his SS rank Get Empyrea's leap once its available in GL servers
@@garennnlzt If you can still tolerate nanamecha's gameplay, you can pull for SS watanabe and wait for the next anniversary to get SS + Sig hyperreal Take note that all you need is SS for uncle for him to function properly. You will need to spend a bit more on lee since he badly needs his weapon.
Nice guide as always, but I have a question regarding his memory build. Won't it be wise to just slap Shakespeare to him from the get go? Since his cottie build will be retired once Pyroath and Oblivion come out, so you won't waste precious memory chips on memories that will be replaced.
You'll get PLENTY of resources until then. But you can IF you have deadline timing. Rn watanabe is the main damage and you wanna spam his orbs and ults over the shred from Shakespeare.
@@thelostpuppy5483 i have 303 ppc skulls i just got back into the game after not playing for 2-3 patches i’ve got about 31k bc now would that be enough for both of them?
ill not have enough PPS for Epitaph and QU to get them to SS im on 214 now b4 spending it on Epitaph, so my plan is to get a 2nd copy of 1 of them. which SS3 has more value long term ?!
Look like annoying to learn... I don't have Liv and Lee 6* weapon what should I do? Is this a problem that will kill my combo? Also in Fire team with my Watanabe 6* weapon + harmonise + Resonance it's Lee or Liv to SS? Which is more important?
To not spend all my free time working on guides, I decided to record this guide live on twitch.tv/spider_2b and have my gigachad editor make it pretty, if you guys don't mind this format, guides will probably continue. Thanks for watching! Imma go sleep, I got work in like 6 hours lol.
Note: Sometimes I rotate like this:
1. Swap in
2. 3 ping
3. Ult
4. Hold dodge + basic attack to procc grapple matrix
4. Basic attack + blaze orb 3x (can dodge cancel)
5. Ult finish
Personally I find this easier to push out damage (at least that's what my muscle memory defaults too) but both rotations have similar damage anyway, so its all about speed.
this format is good as long as its not impacting the other things you need to prioritize spider ❤️
just you uploading guides is a blessing itself
Whatever makes it work out for all of us!
the guides are greatly appreciated and your editor did a great job, keep em coming if you can
@@Spider2B That's what I tell myself: don't push yourself too hard, do what feels most comfortable to you.
Anyway, this video format is great. I always recommend your guides to my friends as you always know how to explain things in the best possible way.
...kept us waiting, huh?
thanks for your work, I really wish you are doing well!
Next one will prob come out before maintenance haha.
@@Spider2B you're good my guy! ...Unk made me broke and Qu is looking at me very worried from her future patch 🥲
WATANABE ABOUT TO GIVE ME AN EPITAPH 🥵😩
Freaky ahh
Bruh 😂
Wuthering my waves until my gray raven is punished by Watanabe's throbbing epitaph
Ayo what
@@claggor1070 woah calm the f down 😂
This format came out really nice actually. It doesnt feel any less informational or entertaining and it still has your style to it. We appreciate you for trying to find a compromise that lets you keep making guides while looking after your own wellbeing.
I'm so happy to see this and want you to know how thankful I am for this content you put out there. I hope all is well on your end.
It's goin better
Yay the master of guides has returned!
The Spider Returns!
17:33 Alpha is so OP she managed to time stop Wata and mess up Spider's Time 😂🙏
MY GO TO PGR GUIDE CC IS BACK
Happy to see the guides continue!
I, for one, do not mind the new "format". Keep it up like this (long as you can mange it, dont burn yourself out) and we'll all be happy little boys and girls.
o7
Finally a new guide
I love how you considered different level of investments man! You're the GOAT of PGR guides! Thanks!
This format is good. Keep it up man. Take care of yourself.
Thanks for the feedback!
I got the chills when you said Lee hyperreal is now sub dps.
Spider2B Is back. Thanks as always for your amazing guides, since years always watching your PGR Guides and from other PGR content creators. Glad your back :D
Glad you are back :D
Nice guide. Not so polished like it was but still good enough if you and your team can have more personal free time.
Feel good watching your guide. Concise and excited to try him once I know how to play.
Thanks for the guide. I've been missing a strong fire tank so will be pulling for him!
Im so happy to have you back ❤️ thanks for the guide!
Glad the 5* weapon still works smh... I tried pulling the 6* one but LOST now I can't afford to use more bc cause Qu😭
Also welcome back and thanks for dropping this guide, your guides are my favorite 😭
I like this format. Keep it up bro. 💪🏻
In all my 3 years of pulling, Watanabe was the 1st to come early!!! I'm so happy yet sad, but happy more for now 🥹🥹🥹
Glad to see you back! But take care of your health
I'm doing better! Thanks for your concern.
thanks for the guide! Great as always, this format is very good, as a very low spender this back to back big units are taking all my black cards away.
And if I can give you a sugestion, since you'll be doing this format from now on, maybe a heads up for possible spoilers since you play on the CN servers.
Glad to see you again, i really liked the guide.
My goat has returned
Yaaay you're back love your PGR guides
We're so backkkk
So, I'm just gonna put this here incase I forgot about Epitaph's kit:
About the "Hold dodge + basic attack to proc grapple matrix" thing, it's really more like "hold dodge > wait for unc to pull/get pulled > AND THEN press/hold basic attack". I was confused for like 5 minutes straight in the training area trying to proc matrix without success by holding dodge and basic attack at the same time. XD
I was not expecting a guide vid, I guess I get to keep watching my go to guide maker
From trying it out it looks like you need SS to get enough sig energy to get that rotation you explained working. Unless i'm missing something. I have the Cottie 2 piece so not sure what it could be besides that.
Yes that's why ss is minimum
Thank you
I'm still trying my best to remember how to use his combo properly. It sounds easy but when I played on fast pace I suddenly forgot everything xD
Thank you as always for your time
LESGO YOU'RE BACK!
He's back! I'm excited
Welcome back spyder 2b. I really missed your contents.
The goat is back yippieee
Sadly I'll skip Unc for Qu's long legs, but I'll definitely get him once he's available in the guaranteed selector banner. Old man deserves it since i don't even have a dmg dealer in my fire team aside from....BRS..
In time
The goat is back
Thnak you for making guides still
He has returned 🔥🔥
18:29 Roseblade's attack looks so cool! Real rose
KURO PLEASE BRING THIS MAN TO WUNTHERING WAVES 🙇🙇🙇🙇🙇
I think wuwa is covered pretty well but who knows
Is shred option for resonance something that will come in future patches or is that the Diode Torch? 8:26, in global other icons seem same.
question sir, we all know that leap has 3 unlockable passive for each category, and every Level 18 leap passive always have something like "[Passive name] added effect", for example :
[Passive: Martyrdom] added effect: After pinging the 3rd set of orbs during [Empyreal Prayer], if there are any remaining Signal Orbs of the same color as the 3rd set of orbs pinged, consume up to 3 Signal Orbs of the same color and increase the Extra DMG Bonus of [Empyreal Prayer] by 5% / 10% / 15% based on the number of orbs consumed.
which is the "Martyrdom" refered to liv empyrea's SSS passive name, so the question is, after we leap our character (in this example is Liv) do we get the SSS passive as well? or is it only be benefit if we have the specific rank unlocked? (in this example need to be SSS first).
because i only have rosetta, astral, and vera rozen leaped, which their SS/SSS/SSS+ are not changing any gameplay mechanism, basically just get stronger, so i cannot see the difference for now.
yeah you need the rank
I pulled this man in the first pull in 10(my pity was 4/60),Love this game dude
"Return of the King"
Thanks Brother ❤
He's definitely a must pull in regard of being super meta in two teams, but the problem is Qu releasing right afterwards.
Had to skip Qu bc of him on JP and playing the ice-team without her absolutely sucks.
I definitely regret pulling him over Qu since Nanamech will be in the S-rank selector during the Luna patch and having her and Qu just seemed the better choice!
Yep that's the dilemma. 2 back to back strong s ranks.
hey this solidified my choice of not getting Epitaph lol
Welcome back.
You still need lee to make the fire team comparable and/or rival current lightning team and future Ice team
Replacing lee to use nanamecha is only because of ppc but ppc will remove its rank and competitive functions in the near future based on the CN info
Yup. Some tabkier fire paincage bosses watanabe also can't finish himself, he runs out of orbs.
He back let's go oooooooo spider
Saving for DMC Dante, Vergil, and Nero.
That's more than a year away, no reason to gimp two teams for a full year over it
Same, all in for dmc
@@djixi98 I'm all in for DMC.
So you are gonna skip all these powerful units that will make your gameplay fun and easy, to get a much more weaker collectors item?
@isobaramark7032 it's not fun if it's easy. DMC characters definitely wouldn't be weak.
Great guide as always, but i just have one question. I have two spare 6 star weapons to use for reso, saving one for qu next patch, who should i use the other on? (SS Lee, Liv, and Wata all with sig and no reso).
Wata for sure
Mou shiwa OSORENAI!
He's never died on me once
Mom I’m on tv🥹 welcome back bro lmao
i missed your guides 😭😭😭
Damn he's actually pretty hard to use a bit IM SO EXCITED
You get used to it
thanks for sharing about build, I need you update harmonization builds, pls!
got him in 10 pulls and his sig in 17. 🌋🌋🌋
god speed everyone
Where memes? JK. Still a goated guide! Cleared up A LOT of confusions.
MY GOAT!!!!
a quick question please, so i started the game like 50 days ago and i made some mistakes along the way and i didnt equip lamia with cottie and i also didnt equip watanabe with either the shakespeare or cottie 2 pcs, now i have 0 hypertune materials to change their builds and i wanted to ask is the einsteina 2 pc set good or comparable on watanabe to the other options? and if i harmonize 2 pcs einsteina with 2 pcs cottie is it still good or i should chaange them. the one thing i have the most problem right now are hypertune materials and i dont know what to do or how to get enough to hypertune my characters especially with these 2 mistakes and qu releasing next patch (which means i have to also save hypertune materials for her).
Got him, his weapon, and his cub. Now I just need to farm PC a bit to get him SS.
Watachad is a must pull. 💪
I put my 2 set cottie on the top row, is it gonna make my watanabe weaker ?
Should I pull for his weapon or should I wait and pull for next patch's Qu weapon, is she more dependent on her weapon?
hey, i dont understand how the hold dodge and attack works, it doesn't always works, what causes matrix to trigger when holding dodge and basic ? i can't find it in his kit
It has an internal cooldown (about every other rotation)
What keyboard are you using?
got him in 20 pulls and his weapon in 5! now we wait for qu...
btw im using him at ss rank, he can solo ice stage in norman cloud island without buff. too good to be skipped
Thank you.
Wanted to skip him but playing with Ayla for 3 more months is too painful.
I got back into the game in this patch, i have only Lee (Hyperreal) on the fire team (No S Nanami). While on the ice i have only Ayla.
Should i pick him or save for Qu? (I cant get both since i'm f2p)😢
These are my worst teams since on the physical i have everyone, on the lightning team i don't have Feral, but SS Liv Lux is doing fine in her place. And on the Dark team i have Selena (going to SSS her soon since she's my fav) and Luna with 6* weapon + SSS N21 (i wasn't on the game in Lumias patch and don't see the need to pull for Karerina Scire..)
I don't know what to do... and i still have the permanent banner pick-up choice...
i don't know, maybe i can get both watanabe and qu as f2p... since i didn't Srank BRS..... got 25k something BC + 7200 orange tickets, i do have 19k blue tickets, or maybe i just make wrong calc i think lol 😅
edit: my only fire team is hyper lee, and liv empyrea lols XD no nanami starfarer, and not level palefire.
Can I run Watanabe, Nanami and Liv? I don't have Lee
I still have my blue selector and planning on pulling Wata Fire in 2 patches for SS3, but how is he compared to SS3 Qu Ice?
Wata ss3 is better. Helps both him and the team.
@@Spider2B Got it thank you! oh and also welcome back 😄
Finally I waited for this content.
I have a question, if I don't have Hyperreal, can I use Lee Palefire to rotate a team of Epitaph and Palefire characters?
because I want to learn to rotate Palefire and Epitaph teams
You can use palefire but you still need to 2 ult with nabe.
@Morichoradio okay, thanks for the answer
@@Morichoradioi got question too. Now my fire team is Empy SS + Sign R2, pale fire SSS+ leaps and nanamech SS + Sign. Who the one is need to be replaced with watanabe on warzone?
@@garennnlzt If you can still tolerate nanamecha's clunky playstyle, Go for hyperreal SS-SS3 + Sig or you can go for watanabe right now and wait for the next anniversary banner to get hyperreal.
Hyperreal needs his weapon and SS rank
Watanabe doesnt need his weapon but get his SS rank
Get Empyrea's leap once its available in GL servers
@@garennnlzt If you can still tolerate nanamecha's gameplay, you can pull for SS watanabe and wait for the next anniversary to get SS + Sig hyperreal
Take note that all you need is SS for uncle for him to function properly. You will need to spend a bit more on lee since he badly needs his weapon.
Does the s rank selector from standard banner gonna refresh after use in the future?
It's a 1 time use
It will after 5 anniversary, year from now
Nice guide as always, but I have a question regarding his memory build. Won't it be wise to just slap Shakespeare to him from the get go? Since his cottie build will be retired once Pyroath and Oblivion come out, so you won't waste precious memory chips on memories that will be replaced.
You'll get PLENTY of resources until then. But you can IF you have deadline timing. Rn watanabe is the main damage and you wanna spam his orbs and ults over the shred from Shakespeare.
Can't wait, esp cause I have no pulse, and no hyperreal so unc will be on double duty lol
I’m gonna save for either Qu or Vera’s coating then will get him on free S rank selector banner.
When is he out?
Is two piece Einstein also good?
is 28k bc enough funds for shukra and epitaph? and will one copy of him be good enough or is SS a need?
Bare minimum is SS epitaph. No sig weapon is alright
You can achieve this with ppc skulls
@@thelostpuppy5483 i have 303 ppc skulls i just got back into the game after not playing for 2-3 patches i’ve got about 31k bc now would that be enough for both of them?
@@thelostpuppy5483 so get S rn and just patiently work towards SS ?
late, but thanks for the guide!!
LONG GUIDE FROM SPIDER 2B, I almost lost hope, LESS FECKING GOOO
How do you hold atk + Dodge on mobile device?
you do hold dodge THEN basic attack, they dont need to be at the same time.
@@Spider2B ah i see, i thought you press them at the same time
IG it's the reverse. Click basic atk and hold dodge. IDK surely about that.@@Spider2B
My ego are just too big, i refuse to swap out uncle 😭
ill not have enough PPS for Epitaph and QU to get them to SS im on 214 now b4 spending it on Epitaph, so my plan is to get a 2nd copy of 1 of them. which SS3 has more value long term ?!
Epitaph
I have at least 80k - 90k BC, should I use to SSS Watanabe or SS3 him and upcoming Ice Qu? (Will both of their weapon sig)
SS3 is enough, I think
So you can saving more for Qu
Look like annoying to learn... I don't have Liv and Lee 6* weapon what should I do? Is this a problem that will kill my combo? Also in Fire team with my Watanabe 6* weapon + harmonise + Resonance it's Lee or Liv to SS? Which is more important?
1. they function sorta still with 5 star weapons just not as smooth.
2. leaning to lee, but liv is most futureproof
@Spider2B OK thanks! I will SS Liv and get her weapon then as long i have enough for the Ice Queen 👌
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I'm going all in for my husband. I'll show Babylonia a true punishing incident once i get my hands on him. ❤
PEAK
which one should we SS first? watanabe or QU?
Need both, its up to you. Technically Qu carries ice harder but not that much more than watanabe for fire.
SSS Watanabe is the best SSS in the game... for now, apparently.
14:03 isnt it teddy patch?
no luna's, 2 s ranks after debut.
@Spider2B but lamia is now in the standard pool tho
What make liv spending orb so fast? Sss or leap?
Leap
I have 30 more pulls
Will I be able to get him guys ?
7:13 why don't you just hold dodge in there?
it's on cooldown, you can't use it every rotation, only every other.