Did They Kill a Legendary 4x4? 200 Series V8 vs. 300 Series Land Cruiser - The BRUTAL Truth!

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  • Опубликовано: 29 янв 2025

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  • @marcianmoon6143
    @marcianmoon6143 2 дня назад +5

    just wait for the update of L300 when they bring 48V and Adblue, add some stupid boxes in the boot. and you will love the current version of L300 lot more

    • @BAWAutomotive
      @BAWAutomotive  День назад +1

      Love it, that’s pure genius-Toyota should hire you for product development! I just hope they don't take 2 cylinders and a turbo from the twin turbo V6

  • @rob3518
    @rob3518 5 дней назад +7

    I own a 2014 GXL and can update if I want but there’s not enough pluses to make me sell the 200, I’m happy with what it does and the way it goes about it.

    • @BAWAutomotive
      @BAWAutomotive  2 дня назад +1

      If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it, right? The 200’s a solid beast, and if it’s doing the job, then why change a winning formula. Keep enjoying the ride!

  • @deceptikhon
    @deceptikhon 6 дней назад +21

    No split tailgate was a deal breaker for me.

    • @ce00yonow28
      @ce00yonow28 4 дня назад +1

      Agree have 200 sahara

    • @BAWAutomotive
      @BAWAutomotive  2 дня назад +1

      BBTS 2025! *Bring back the Splitty

    • @tyzon00800
      @tyzon00800 День назад

      You need help then

    • @davescott5506
      @davescott5506 2 часа назад

      Yeah I love the spilt tailgate
      I have a d4 not 200 😂

  • @william6815
    @william6815 6 дней назад +14

    I’ve towed my 3T van with both ended my selling the 300 straight away it was under to much stress towing compared to the 200 which did it much easier I don’t care about power you want reliability there not race cars

    • @BAWAutomotive
      @BAWAutomotive  2 дня назад +2

      The 200’s have a good reputation for handling heavy towing stress. Reliability always trumps power in that scenario

  • @andrewleo6407
    @andrewleo6407 3 дня назад +4

    My 200 has the heated and cooled seats, heated steering wheel (Sahara Horizon), and the active radar cruise control. But my 200 doesn't suffer from the twin turbo surging and chirping of the 300 series which you guys don't mention ! It's a fundamental flaw of the V6 sequential twin turbo configuration on the 300 series ....

    • @BAWAutomotive
      @BAWAutomotive  2 дня назад

      Ah, the 200 Sahara Horizon-luxury and reliability wrapped in one iconic package! Heated steering wheel and seats? Living the dream! As for the 300’s twin-turbo quirks, fair point-they’re not perfect, but hey, it’s still a beast in its own right. Every generation has its pros and cons, but we all know the 200 set a pretty high bar!

  • @alexstokes8949
    @alexstokes8949 6 дней назад +4

    As the vdj’s V8’s ride off into the sunset they will be more sought after. I’m more old-school and love the noise of a v8.
    I think if you like the car to drive for you 300 all the way… but if you want to make decisions and have to drive 200 easy.
    Both awesome cars one’s a legend and one’s to prove it’s self yet time will tell again.

    • @BAWAutomotive
      @BAWAutomotive  2 дня назад

      You can come for Beers mate. Sensible answer.... we rate ya!

  • @scugniz
    @scugniz 10 часов назад

    I haven't driven a 300 but it does look good. I'm not sure if I'm convinced enough to buy one though as I still love my 200. It's been reliable over the 450k KMS it's driven, still goes well and sounds great. It's also roomy, comfy and practical with the split tailgate. Time will tell if 300's will be as good.

  • @mathewcampbell8479
    @mathewcampbell8479 2 дня назад +1

    I've got a 2017 Sahara. Took a 300 and new Prado for a drive, back to back and walked away from the dealer happy to have saved my money. The 200 rides way better (yes ive modified) and just drive in pwr mode if you want to go faster from a standstill. Oh. And get the auto transmission tuned if you don't like the way the 6 speed shifts.

    • @BAWAutomotive
      @BAWAutomotive  2 дня назад

      Fair call mate-the 200s are definitely still worth holding onto

  • @tempestv8
    @tempestv8 6 дней назад +4

    The 6 speed auto gearbox in the 200 Series is very clunky especially when it downshifts from 2nd to 1st on an uphill slope. If only Toyota had put the 8 speed auto from the Lexus LX570 into the later 200 Series model years.
    The interior of the 300 is indeed much tighter than the 200 Series. If the front seats felt tight on the 300 Series, the loss of space wasn't translated into more room for the 2nd row. Instead, the 300 Series second row seats feel way more cramped, and it isn't helped by the hump in the center of the floor.
    200 Series has a bigger fuel tank and meatier stock tyres (285mm vs 265mm on the 300).
    Also the 200 Series has a far higher roof load capacity, which is yet another negative on the 300.
    The 300 V6 is probably more stressed than the 200's V8 to produce more using 2 less cylinders. This could imply the 1VD-FTV motor will outlast the F33A-FTV.
    The 300 has aluminium body panels compared to the 200 steel skin. This may mean panel shops will have a harder time fixing 300 dented panels. Possibly the PDR (paintless dent removal) process will be harder with the 300.

    • @adamsmith5565
      @adamsmith5565 5 дней назад +2

      Nailed that summary mate. 100% agree

    • @Mosesk1988
      @Mosesk1988 5 дней назад

      Trans tune ans engine remap fixes that

    • @ce00yonow28
      @ce00yonow28 4 дня назад

      200 hundred is fine classic toyota low tech reliable except dpf will kill motor

    • @Andrew-hu1bx
      @Andrew-hu1bx 3 дня назад

      What are you guys talking about? 1VD has Low teck?
      The 1VD V8 79/200 series engine is LITERALLY the worst Landcruiser engine of all time.
      It Tows like crap, produces weak torque (because it’s a V8, inline 6’s have a much better torque band) and imagine changing that starter motor when your on a long trip……….ohhh you didn’t know about that did you?
      Look up changing the starter motor on a 1VD engine 😂 rocket rod will explain all of this too you

    • @BAWAutomotive
      @BAWAutomotive  2 дня назад

      Sounds like you’ve been doing some serious research, mate! You've got the 200 down to a science with all those details. I bet you know the part numbers for everything too, huh? But hey, the 300’s not all bad-it’s a fresh spin on an old classic, even if it doesn’t quite match the 200’s specs. Still, you can’t argue with progress, right? And, to be fair, it’ll take more than a few extra cylinders to outlast the Land Cruiser legacy!

  • @TheTripleDubya
    @TheTripleDubya 4 дня назад +1

    I like the 300, it’s kinda the best Prado they’ve ever made and as a wagon it’s kinda hard to beat but as a tow vehicle, it’s working a hell of a lot harder to tow 3.5t and the 200s struggled with that as it is.
    Loved my 200, might buy a 300 when I’m done towing but for now, I’ll stick with the 2500.

    • @BAWAutomotive
      @BAWAutomotive  2 дня назад +1

      Fair call, the 300 is a beast, but towing 3.5t does put it through its paces. Stick with the 2500 for now, but I bet that 300 will be hard to resist down the track!

  • @konradmoskal4138
    @konradmoskal4138 2 дня назад +2

    Safety tech pisses me off in the 300. Engine is way better then the old v8 particularly with the 10 speed.

    • @BAWAutomotive
      @BAWAutomotive  День назад

      10-speed in the 300 is smoother than a freshly cracked beer on a Friday arvo. But the V8? That thing's a symphony of power and noise that just hits different

  • @bachirbattache2997
    @bachirbattache2997 2 дня назад +1

    One thing I hate about my GR sport petrol is that I would need 2 snorkels and not one like you have guys on the diesel which is not available here, why they didn’t do one filter for both turbos like the diesel 😝

    • @BAWAutomotive
      @BAWAutomotive  День назад

      That’s interesting! Where in the world are you? Dual snorkels could actually look pretty mean-depends on the rig and how it’s set up. Might even start a new trend, who knows?

  • @PetrusvanZyl-e8p
    @PetrusvanZyl-e8p 2 дня назад +1

    Big thing ! 6 speed gearbox vs excellent 10 speed box in 300
    I made the change because of gearbox

    • @BAWAutomotive
      @BAWAutomotive  День назад

      Fair call, mate-the 10-speed in the 300 shifts so smooth it’s like it’s reading your mind.

  • @GetLost.Wandering
    @GetLost.Wandering 6 дней назад +1

    I feel like the only thing better about a 200 series is the sound but while touring who on earth wants to deal with that drone in your ear? How ever I've never owned a 200 series (Always wanted one) so cant really compare the 2 personally. I love my 300 series and do not regret the purchase in the slightest. But if my budget didn't allow me to get a 300 series and only a 200 series I would not be disappointed in the slightest at all! I don't think anyone makes a bad decision if they purchase either car!

    • @BAWAutomotive
      @BAWAutomotive  2 дня назад

      Haha, fair point! The 200’s got that V8 roar, but yeah both awesome in their own way!

  • @AnanthSarathy
    @AnanthSarathy 2 дня назад

    Ive got a GR LC 300 my concern about doing changes to it is the warranty process, when something goes wrong.

    • @BAWAutomotive
      @BAWAutomotive  2 дня назад +1

      Totally get where you're coming from with the warranty concerns-it’s a big investment! The key is to stick with quality parts that come with their own warranty. That way, if anything happens, you’re covered. As for the factory warranty, it’ll still apply to anything that stays original. For any mods, make sure they're installed by a recommended installer (like us!). That way, the parts you upgrade come with a proper warranty and peace of mind. Worth it for the extra confidence when taking your GR LC300 out for some real fun!

    • @AnanthSarathy
      @AnanthSarathy 2 дня назад

      @BAWAutomotive perfect thank you guys!

  • @benvisagie8844
    @benvisagie8844 День назад

    I owned a 2007 LC200. My wife loved it more than me, but after a toughdog suspension it was better, but performance still terrible, incl fuel consumption. My 2023 LC 300 3,5 T petrol for me a much better vehicle, same size, split tailgate maybe not that nice but ride quality, performance, comfort much better. Ground clearance in standard format also better, drivetrain a major improvement. From practical experienece, not from test drives.

    • @BAWAutomotive
      @BAWAutomotive  16 часов назад

      Glad to hear you're loving the 300 series. You gotta admit, though, the old one was a legend.

  • @darylsmith9072
    @darylsmith9072 6 дней назад +4

    200 series do have adaptive cruise control....

    • @lukesmith132
      @lukesmith132 5 дней назад

      It’s shit, I turn it off straight away

    • @liamneilson7521
      @liamneilson7521 4 дня назад

      yip so does mine, 2016 vx limited nz new

    • @BAWAutomotive
      @BAWAutomotive  День назад

      Maybe we need to adapt our own cruise control on these facts. Thanks for watching!

  • @josedarrylalano8356
    @josedarrylalano8356 6 дней назад +4

    Got the 200 and can’t afford the 300 anymore, so keeping my V8 until the world go full woke and I cannot buy diesel anymore 😂 maybe peanut oil will do 😂… my 200 got active cruise control though.

    • @BAWAutomotive
      @BAWAutomotive  2 дня назад +1

      Haha, I like the way you think! Maybe by then, we’ll all be running on unicorn tears and organic avocado oil. Keep that V8 roaring!

  • @thebeerhunter817
    @thebeerhunter817 6 часов назад

    The 200 is a troublesome vehicle in quite a few ways. I'd try my luck with a 300 before the v8.

  • @krh007
    @krh007 3 дня назад +1

    I find the V8 Patrol Warrior is the clear winner here over both. When ticking all the boxes it is just a no brainer decision.
    To back this statement up watch this clip ruclips.net/video/ER6gRJWS754/видео.html&ab_channel=MORE4x4

    • @BAWAutomotive
      @BAWAutomotive  2 дня назад +1

      Always nice to hear from the Y62 fan club. We rate them too. Will have to do an episode BAW style soon.

  • @Jillianda
    @Jillianda 5 дней назад +7

    Had both and no comparison, the 300 in every way.
    More power, much quicker, better tech, better looking as the 200 really looks dated now, really dated... it's more comfortable to drive with adaptive variable suspension, the adaptive high beam in the 300 leaves the lighting between the two, really night and day, and although it's only 2 litres per 100 kilometres better fuel consumption, it's definitely more fuel efficient, and that 10 speed gearbox, just no comparison.
    Heated and cooled seats in both the front and back is superb, the sound system is much better, and in all honesty, the cab may be slightly smaller up front, but you actually feel like you fit into the seats, rather than sit on the seats.
    The steering is also much lighter and more pleasant to manoeuvre, and the sound between them...meh. The only person who hears the car are the people outside the car, which in all honesty doesn't sound like a petrol V8 at all anyway, from inside when driving, with your tunes, talking, listening, swearing at other drivers, you can't really hear the engine anyway.
    I don't think I would spruke to anyone that I would buy a car on it's sound alone.....Y62 drivers will argue that....
    The split tailgate? Well, I actually prefer it being one piece, though don't like the beeping... I can can actually reach the stuff in the back now, rather than lift your knee up on the bottom of the tailgate to reach the back to get something....and I'm 6 foot tall.....
    The one piece is great if it's raining as well.
    Inside just looks great, it's modern, up to date, has Apple Car Play, and above all, I don't want a car that's old and outdated.
    What's not to love about a new car smell.....
    The 200 has had it's day, was great for 14 years, move on into the future. The 200 is now the Y62 of the Landcruiser range, old and outdated.

    • @BAWAutomotive
      @BAWAutomotive  2 дня назад

      Well, you’ve clearly had a good time with the 300 and all its fancy upgrades! Gotta admit, the tech and comfort are pretty impressive. But hey, the 200 still holds a special place for a lot of us-classic vibes, reliable as anything. You’re not wrong though, the 300’s got some serious swagger. Each to their own, right?

  • @JamieWilliams-j9z
    @JamieWilliams-j9z 6 дней назад +1

    Vented seat, lockers, better gearbox and smashes a 200 in a drag race and to get the power out of both vehicles the 300 is way cheaper and the thing everyone talks about fuel usage is less with the 8 speed gearbox. I was a hard core v8 guy but couldn't go a 200 but had 76 vdj unit i brought a twin turbo raptor v6 and it kicked everything on the road in the 4wd market but not reliable so brought a 300 to come back to toyota and agree it sounds like a tractor needing a rebuild hahah

    • @adamsmith5565
      @adamsmith5565 5 дней назад

      A drag race? Is that what LandCruisers are for?
      For $150K+ you’d want to get lockers in the GR Sport. Its way cheaper to get a GXL and add e-Lockers.

    • @JamieWilliams-j9z
      @JamieWilliams-j9z 5 дней назад

      @adamsmith5565 see how them e lockers go mate, with toyota you possibly might have warranty but my point is you get a lot more nicer stuff with better sound system and few other small create your comforts to make the drive easier. On long distance driving.
      Gxl isn't worth $hit and well out dated for its price, I do agree 160k for a gr is well over the top when you can get a 2500 ram for that but i brought a gr 300 for 130k and with most mods done already so was lucky

    • @JamieWilliams-j9z
      @JamieWilliams-j9z 5 дней назад

      @adamsmith5565 its shown every day on RUclips, my car has this much power,,,,,, and I destroy diffs and cvs daily, that's what I am saying that 200 series owners are like. Ut a 300 can kick a$$ at this.

    • @BAWAutomotive
      @BAWAutomotive  2 дня назад

      How good is this thread.... *grabs popcorn....

  • @youtubecarspottersguide1
    @youtubecarspottersguide1 2 дня назад +1

    we cant have a LC300 in the U.S V6 gas is ok , ..... we do get 7 Lexus LX 600/ LX700h models all in the $100k US price club Lexus just released the LX700H overtrail @$115 U.S. so its our gr sport LC 300 , the GX550 overtrail is our best or over priced luxury 4Runner TRD PRO OR TRAIL hunter models now , Sequoia TRD PRO = 3 row luxury family school bus loaded with every power opt

    • @BAWAutomotive
      @BAWAutomotive  День назад

      The Lexus LX is heading to Australia soon too, though sadly not the hybrid version. Gotta say, the GX550 Overtrail looks the part-can’t wait to see how it holds up on the tracks!

    • @youtubecarspottersguide1
      @youtubecarspottersguide1 День назад

      @@BAWAutomotive the GX 550 should be good .....LX600 is more of a luxury car for the valet car park at a posh resort to me makes no sense ...... as you get the LC 300 GX to the GR SPORT

  • @ozzyalbundy6679
    @ozzyalbundy6679 6 дней назад +1

    Adaptive radar Cruze standard 2016 Sahara

    • @BAWAutomotive
      @BAWAutomotive  2 дня назад

      Adaptive comments whilst cruising our videos... also standard... and approved. Thanks for watching

  • @stefancremer4615
    @stefancremer4615 5 дней назад +2

    Prejudiced… both great cars. Different strokes.
    Tailgate - non event
    Interior has significantly improved
    V6D & 10sp combo is sensational

    • @BAWAutomotive
      @BAWAutomotive  2 дня назад

      Prejudiced? Hell yeah we are... just calling it how we see it... through Toyota Tinted Lenses.

  • @davidphamily6536
    @davidphamily6536 6 дней назад +4

    Guess I’m not gonna take my 300 to this guy to get stuff done to it. What kind of business bashes on a certain model of car, knowing they had customers with 300’s.

    • @maiabrittany
      @maiabrittany 5 дней назад +2

      Did you watch the whole video? He wasn't bashing on it, but bringing up things he preferred on the 200. And vice versa.

    • @davidphamily6536
      @davidphamily6536 5 дней назад +1

      @@maiabrittany did you watch his previous video about the 300?, as a auto shop who’s lively hood depends on modifying 4by’s, I wouldn’t throw my bias around on the internet like that!.

    • @lukesmith132
      @lukesmith132 5 дней назад

      Yeah, shush up @davidphamily6536

    • @lukesmith132
      @lukesmith132 5 дней назад +2

      It’s an opinion

    • @BAWAutomotive
      @BAWAutomotive  2 дня назад +2

      Hey @davidphamily6536, we love both the 200 and the 300! It's like how I love my wife AND my girlfriend-different vibes, but both awesome in their own way. 😉 We’re all about keeping it real, and every model has its perks. Just a bit of fun, mate!

  • @lucianocalderon2086
    @lucianocalderon2086 6 дней назад

    I mean, if you want a diesel engine that is already putting 700Nm of torque straight out of the show room, then it becomes a brainer. Please note, all toyota models are reliable and there is no toyota model which has to prove its reliability over time (except the diesel hilux from 2015 to 2019, but as far as I am concerned, it's always toyota reliability that gets the clients time and time again)

    • @BAWAutomotive
      @BAWAutomotive  2 дня назад

      Oh, absolutely! Toyota’s reliability is legendary - except for that one tiny hiccup with the 2015-2019 Hilux. But hey, who’s counting? Apart from that, it’s pretty much "bulletproof" from the moment you drive it off the lot!

  • @ce00yonow28
    @ce00yonow28 4 дня назад +1

    My friends 300 motor shit itself not a fan

    • @BAWAutomotive
      @BAWAutomotive  2 дня назад

      My friend just plain old shit himself... it was the taco bell.... Jokes... Another strike for the 300, 200 is still winning i guess.

  • @adrianbettio6649
    @adrianbettio6649 12 часов назад

    the 300 falls short in too many areas. its a mums shopping car.

  • @Pentium3ddem
    @Pentium3ddem 2 дня назад

    no

  • @tyzon00800
    @tyzon00800 День назад

    Like watching grass grow ,opinions no facts 💩🙈

  • @StasonSmith
    @StasonSmith 2 дня назад +1

    tighten your man bun and buy 300))

    • @BAWAutomotive
      @BAWAutomotive  День назад +1

      After I finished my gluten free avocado toast and my oat milk flat white

    • @StasonSmith
      @StasonSmith День назад

      @@BAWAutomotive don't forget your yoga mat with plastic cucumber)

  • @rayweh-bfa4966
    @rayweh-bfa4966 5 дней назад +2

    300 is shit socker mums car wont last time will tell hot v will cost you in the long run

  • @rayweh-bfa4966
    @rayweh-bfa4966 5 дней назад +1

    Buy a v8 patrol better size lot cheaper than 300 less shit to go wrong sounds fantastic cheaper to service sounds awesome not that bad on fuel

    • @BAWAutomotive
      @BAWAutomotive  2 дня назад

      The Y62 Fans are strong today! We're gonna have todo an ep on them soon. They are solid as.

  • @trg3761
    @trg3761 5 дней назад +2

    Who’s they?
    You know the government put massive emissions standards on the V8 which made it impossible the meet, so Toyota decided not to make it an option, so blame the government for killing the Toyota V8 not the manufacturer.
    In the future there will be no option for a V8 from Nissan either because the government is introducing a massive tax on emissions for manufacturers which will be passed on to the sale cost
    And the option for a diesel won’t be available either .
    All for climate change bullshit.