Do eggs cause heart disease?

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  • @Zuluknob
    @Zuluknob 2 месяца назад +188

    Does being alive cause death?

    • @Physionic
      @Physionic  2 месяца назад +100

      No studies on that - big pharma doesn't want you to know, Z.

    • @Randsurfer
      @Randsurfer 2 месяца назад +7

      Necessary but not sufficient

    • @Joe_C.
      @Joe_C. 2 месяца назад +10

      Conflicting studies and insufficient data due to small sample size

    • @Freja_Solstheim
      @Freja_Solstheim 2 месяца назад +6

      @@Joe_C. 110 billion people have lived and passed so far and you say not enough data?!? 😅

    • @kinpatu
      @kinpatu 2 месяца назад +9

      @@Freja_SolstheimThat wasn’t an RCT, just observational.

  • @nelsonhoffman5922
    @nelsonhoffman5922 2 месяца назад +49

    My favorite channel for scientific analysis.

  • @didgeridooblue
    @didgeridooblue 2 месяца назад +142

    Only 8 eggs per week? I commonly consume twenty eggs/week.

    • @Lennythewinner
      @Lennythewinner 2 месяца назад +2

      So?

    • @carlosgaspar8447
      @carlosgaspar8447 2 месяца назад +7

      they only have negative effect when combined with statins.

    • @michazytecki965
      @michazytecki965 2 месяца назад +14

      28 eggs per week here for 3 years straight now

    • @lisahannah3175
      @lisahannah3175 2 месяца назад +4

      I don’t know how many I consume, maybe not 28, but between 12 and 24 is likely. No research on that apparently

    • @macmcleod1188
      @macmcleod1188 2 месяца назад +4

      12 to 14 here. My regular breakfast right now is 2 eggs, a handful of vegetables, cooked in a very small steel skillet at a low heat for about 4 minutes with a lid on. I add cheese and replace the lid and let it sit two minutes.
      I used to eat name brand breakfast sandwiches in a red box but the bacon is thin as paper now and the "egg" patty now tastes like pure egg white. These cost about $1.25 each and I would add some tomato sauce and cheese and maybe a little fajita vegetables to them.
      My current breakfast is cheaper even using $6.50 per dozen eggs. I'll add a thin pork loin to it a few days a week. And it tastes a lot better.
      One key was "seasoning" the steel pan. The eggs were sticking to it. Basically put a bit of olive oil in the pan and then cook it til the oil turns into a brown layer. That layer is about as slippery as teflon. I have to avoid using steel to clean the pan to preserve it.

  • @Mr.Chedda_
    @Mr.Chedda_ 2 месяца назад +7

    I would just like to say that I for one very much appreciate your light-hearted humor and how you let your quirks shine through, never fails to make me smile or chuckle, do keep ignoring the comments, and thank you for your input and videos! ❤🥚🥜(there is no almond emoji...)

  • @frankenz66
    @frankenz66 2 месяца назад +25

    I remember my parents, their siblings, and friends debating over this question over 40 years ago.

    • @jakehayes1345
      @jakehayes1345 2 месяца назад +2

      Of course they sided with the Almonds to kick ass...... am I right?

    • @frankenz66
      @frankenz66 2 месяца назад +3

      @@jakehayes1345 🤣 Most of them got fooled.

    • @jakehayes1345
      @jakehayes1345 2 месяца назад +2

      @@frankenz66 they got egg on their face::))

    • @travisadams4470
      @travisadams4470 2 месяца назад +1

      The Yoks on you 😂

    • @frankenz66
      @frankenz66 2 месяца назад +1

      @@jakehayes1345 Not in their stomachs for sure. They mostly fell for it. God forfend our government or media would lie to us, right?

  • @MrCalyho
    @MrCalyho 2 месяца назад +34

    I am also wondering how eggs are counted in those studies. Are cookies and pancakes and all the other egg containing foods being counted as egg consumption?

    • @nextlevel6825
      @nextlevel6825 2 месяца назад +4

      This is extremely relevant. Would like for Physionic to tell us here if this is happening.

    • @paulhailey2537
      @paulhailey2537 2 месяца назад +3

      Bologna on White Bread Covered in Ketchup is eating Meat by every Study done

    • @tgferg67
      @tgferg67 2 месяца назад

      Just how the egg is prepared has an effect, cooking beyond runny yolks oxidizes the cholesterol.

    • @wasteddude
      @wasteddude 2 месяца назад

      ​​@@tgferg67really? So even boiling eggs oxides them? Wouldn't it depend on the temperature and if vegetable oil is being used?

    • @tgferg67
      @tgferg67 2 месяца назад

      @@wasteddude Hard yolk = more oxidized cholesterol.

  • @davidjohnston4240
    @davidjohnston4240 2 месяца назад +25

    If your great grandmother (who didn't get diabetes or heart disease because it was rare back then) ate eggs, then it is fine. She also ate lard, tallow, suet and butter instead of seed oils - the greatest confounder of modern nutritional studies.

    • @MichaelGGarry
      @MichaelGGarry 2 месяца назад +6

      She didn't get them as they weren't diagnosed *or* people were dying before that of other conditions we can now treat. Its not a confounder at all.

    • @EdwardsNH
      @EdwardsNH 2 месяца назад +4

      @@MichaelGGarry Seriously... these people who "Oh, we used to [fill in something ridiculous] and we were fine" need to get someone else to do their thinking for them

    • @Klaudiuszeg
      @Klaudiuszeg 2 месяца назад

      Yes, and she is probably one of the hundreds people who lived to her age, because everyone else is no longer with us

    • @davidjohnston4240
      @davidjohnston4240 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@MichaelGGarryDo dietary fats matter? Yes. We're they controlled for? No. Therefore they are a confounder. Statistics is like that sometimes.

    • @dragonwithagirltattoo598
      @dragonwithagirltattoo598 2 месяца назад

      Then what killed her? Did she live forever?

  • @Nicholasj911
    @Nicholasj911 2 месяца назад +26

    Thanks for cracking this one open for us

  • @SuperAngelic5
    @SuperAngelic5 2 месяца назад +3

    Thanks for the information. I liked your presentation!

  • @SkootySpeedmite
    @SkootySpeedmite 2 месяца назад +8

    These studies need to be redone but with 30-40 eggs per week, and all participants get good amount of exercise per week as well. I need these results lol

    • @macmcleod1188
      @macmcleod1188 2 месяца назад +1

      There's someone here on RUclips that ate something like 100 in a short time and then got all of his blood work done. I don't think it showed a particular problem with his blood work. But you'd have to search for it. He does a lot of body experimentation like this but I forget his name.

  • @SF-ow5ru
    @SF-ow5ru 2 месяца назад +153

    The short and long answer is .. No.

    • @sergey9986
      @sergey9986 2 месяца назад +4

      No. The answer is that it depends on the amount of data correction.

    • @nunyabeezwacks1408
      @nunyabeezwacks1408 2 месяца назад +1

    • @SF-ow5ru
      @SF-ow5ru 2 месяца назад

      ​@@sergey9986I stick with my answer.

    • @jasoncdebussy
      @jasoncdebussy 2 месяца назад +1

      Well said

    • @Fearzero
      @Fearzero 2 месяца назад +13

      Saturated animal fat indeed raises CVD risk. That's well beyond proven. Only flawed studies ever showed no damage from saturated animal fats vs polyunsaturated. Mineral oil and margarine are in the studies that end positive for SAFAs. Those are not good comparisons. When actual polyunsaturated fats were put against the saturated animal fats the results were overwhelmingly negative for the saturated animal fats. I've read through 50 studies.

  • @SonnyDarvishzadeh
    @SonnyDarvishzadeh 2 месяца назад +31

    I went on a 6 to 8 boiled eggs per day diet with occasional bok choy and lost 21 kg (-20%) in 3-4 months. i.e. that's like an extended fast with some protein, fats, vitamins and minerals.

    •  2 месяца назад +11

      That says literally nothing about the risk of heart disease and eggs... It's just kinda worthless information 🤷

    • @SonnyDarvishzadeh
      @SonnyDarvishzadeh 2 месяца назад +3

      @ Well true! I took blood tests before and after and all I can say is that the doctor said both are okay. My low iron and hypothyrodism haven't changed.

    • @ssa8479
      @ssa8479 2 месяца назад

      @@SonnyDarvishzadeh I’m hoping to one day overcome my hypothyroidism. I developed low iron in the two years I was vegan and continued to donate blood regularly. Ate a lot of spinach and smoothies with it, but it took a couple of years of keto to get iron levels up.

    • @dannyspitzer1267
      @dannyspitzer1267 2 месяца назад

      What's your apo B?

    • @SonnyDarvishzadeh
      @SonnyDarvishzadeh 2 месяца назад

      @@dannyspitzer1267 do you assume every doctor is up to their game and every generic blood test includes apo B by default? every physical watches peter attia's videos?
      I'll tell you my apo B after you tell me your telomere length. Measure the good ones please.

  • @harrymagooslum5770
    @harrymagooslum5770 18 часов назад

    I’m 58 years old and since I was a young child I’ve been fascinated with health and nutrition. I’ve had many friends who were much older than me and I’d ask the ones who were in their mid to late 90s a lot of questions about their habits. Almost all said that they ate eggs daily. Most also had a routine of hanging from a bar overhead (stretching their spines). I’ve taken to doing both as I seriously think that there is something to this.

  • @ericskinner7355
    @ericskinner7355 2 месяца назад

    Thanks for mentioning other risk factors. Something that is often overlooked...

  • @whatthefunction9140
    @whatthefunction9140 2 месяца назад +5

    Why are so many heath influencers say dietary cholesterol has no effect on total cholesterol?

    • @Physionic
      @Physionic  2 месяца назад +6

      Because it’s generally true

    • @Lozwave
      @Lozwave 2 месяца назад +2

      @@Physionicyeah because you don’t take into account baseline serum cholesterol and the parabolic curve. If you already eat high amounts of cholesterol and you eat more.. your cholesterol tends not to spike. But if you are on a plant based diet for example and then you suddenly eat 3 eggs per day, you will see a dramatic spike. You can fudge the data and make it look like eating 10 eggs a day doesn’t raise cholesterol that much.. because the person already had a high cholesterol diet etc. like I said, it’s a parabolic curve not a linear

  • @Ermude10
    @Ermude10 2 месяца назад

    This was very interesting! Thank you!

  • @efri33
    @efri33 2 месяца назад +1

    Love the video. Thanks for the depth and balance, as always! This topic never seems to come to a satisfactory end. Egg yolks used to induce atherosclerosis in some experiments. Keto, pro-egg is real popular among RUclips audiences. These studies seem to look at up to 8 eggs per week vs 4 per day people are filling up on (unless I misunderstand). So much more to know but the studies aren’t there.

  • @TheYangnyin
    @TheYangnyin 2 месяца назад +8

    Do these studies include what was eaten with the eggs (salt, butter, potatoes, ham, etc)? Or what they eat when they eat when they don't eat eggs?

    • @JasonBuckman
      @JasonBuckman 2 месяца назад +1

      You mean ultra processed food like the white bread, fried potatoes, and juice?
      Salt, butter, and ham aren't the enemies.

  • @pedro.almeida
    @pedro.almeida 2 месяца назад +14

    Very balanced review. As always, moderation seems to be the key. No need to avoid eggs, but it doesn't make sense to eat half a dozen before breakfast either. 😊

    • @felixbonneau1834
      @felixbonneau1834 2 месяца назад +4

      What about half a dozen for breakfast

    • @pedro.almeida
      @pedro.almeida 2 месяца назад

      That's fine 🫢

    • @michaelpeters364
      @michaelpeters364 2 месяца назад

      Worked for Rocky - -'Ey, yo! I prefer them cooked, though.

    • @felixbonneau1834
      @felixbonneau1834 2 месяца назад

      @@michaelpeters364 Raw eggs taste better

    • @zygis4000
      @zygis4000 2 месяца назад

      ​@@felixbonneau1834raw egg whites also inhibit biotin absorption, raw egg yolks are totally fine tho

  • @omnimetric84
    @omnimetric84 2 месяца назад +12

    I eat 3-4 per day and have for many years. At 61, I’m low carb/real food, healthy metabolic markers, athletic, and run circles around the grandkids.
    I’m not even remotely concerned 😁

  • @dansklrvids7303
    @dansklrvids7303 2 месяца назад

    I really enjoyed the detail of this.

    • @Physionic
      @Physionic  2 месяца назад

      Thanks - I love telling stories through data. I think I can do a better job, but it turned out pretty nicely, regardless.

  • @flavioluis8218
    @flavioluis8218 2 месяца назад +59

    I eat 4 eggs per morning every single day

  • @mircdom4603
    @mircdom4603 2 месяца назад

    thank you for the balanced take on it, it would be great if in addition to plain correlation (controlling for variables) some causal inference would be brought into discussion. once again thank you for considering ("ignoring" the irrelevant comments, mine inclusive when it adds to the noise)

  • @TriStateTrichomes
    @TriStateTrichomes 2 месяца назад +1

    would love to hear a breakdown on L-citrulline.

  • @DILFDylF
    @DILFDylF 2 месяца назад +8

    I've been swallowing eggs and I feel okay most of the time

    • @Physionic
      @Physionic  2 месяца назад +23

      Like a snake?

  • @mishmohd
    @mishmohd 2 месяца назад

    I happen to be an honorary member of the nut council and I concur someone did fund a study or two about eggs.

  • @whobdis77
    @whobdis77 2 месяца назад +2

    Good stuff as always. Had heart blockage in 2004 so tried to keep up with this kind of thing. Needless to say it's been a big frustrating at times. Back then it was all about avoiding fat. Nothing on avoiding sugar (or whatnot). I have a hard boiled egg almost every morning and that's been going on for a decade. It doesn't appear to be making things worse as I have yearly stress test (though the value of that is coming into question). I'm going to side with 'positives outweight risks'...or at least neutral. I do have high LPa but diet has little effect on that.

    • @the4theyeofra974
      @the4theyeofra974 2 месяца назад +1

      High, or even low, Lp(a) is pretty much generally set by age 5 for life I believe, what are your ApoB levels comparatively?

    • @whobdis77
      @whobdis77 2 месяца назад

      @@the4theyeofra974 86..last time it was tested

  • @jamescalifornia2964
    @jamescalifornia2964 2 месяца назад +2

    _" Fish and eggs are the perfect food for humans. "_
    ~ Jack LaLanne 💪

  • @adanice49
    @adanice49 Месяц назад

    This video was great and I’m glad I’m in a place where I’m not emotionally attached to the pro- or anti-egg crowd. As a young seemingly healthy and active person with high cholesterol, I’ve always been cautious about eggs but haven’t written them off outright. Anyways, I appreciate your ability to communicate the nuance of inconclusive information

  • @MitzvosGolem1
    @MitzvosGolem1 2 месяца назад

    Excellent channel.
    I am on oatmeal and fish veggies diet from this channel.
    Thanks 👍
    Ps most baked goods have eggs in them also .

  • @peanutnutter1
    @peanutnutter1 2 месяца назад +62

    Let me be the first to say how eggselent today's episode was

    • @Physionic
      @Physionic  2 месяца назад +10

      Yes - all I can say is 'yes'.
      (and, thank you)

    • @bill9989
      @bill9989 2 месяца назад +3

      ​@@Physionicdon't encourage that 😊

    • @anonymoussource7999
      @anonymoussource7999 2 месяца назад +9

      That was a good yolk.

    • @bhut1571
      @bhut1571 2 месяца назад +9

      That's not an eggageration.

    • @peanutnutter1
      @peanutnutter1 2 месяца назад +5

      @@anonymoussource7999 the chicks like it 🐤🐥

  • @davidellis1550
    @davidellis1550 2 месяца назад +4

    I wondered 1) if the effect is greater at lower levels of LDL. If youre at 70 it might go up easier than if youre at 150. 2) how do you know if youre a cholesterol hyper responder. My ldl did seem to go up 30 points or so when i ate more eggs. But maybe it was from other dietary changes as well.
    Great video

    • @Lozwave
      @Lozwave 2 месяца назад +2

      If you eat loads of exogenous cholesterol, your LDL will already be very high, adding more eggs on top of that won’t cause a linear rise.. it will be a small increase, that is because there is a parabolic curve. If you are zero exogenous cholesterol for example a plant based diet, and then decided to eat 5 eggs per day, you would see a dramatic rise in cholesterol. The damage to the heart is done when you have constant elevated levels of LDL that oxidise in the bloodstream and cause atherosclerosis. LDL is the only critical risk factor for atherosclerosis. Other risk factors such as smoking damage endothelial cells which make it easier for ldl particles to stick. Macrophages infiltrate into the arterial wall and uptake excessive ldl lipids, leading to the formation of foam cells which explode and the cycle continues.. it then calcifies which is the plaque formation.

  • @janarns3380
    @janarns3380 2 месяца назад

    Great video as always. Appreciate sharing all your work and your honesty!! This channel will be one of the most busy ones in the future 😁 I'm wondering though what all those food studies are really worth? While watching the video, I only kept asking myself, how are the eggs eaten/prepared in most households? And What do people with let's say higher egg consumption mostly eat beside the eggs? Like e.g. do the Europeans eat them with fried ham and half burnt toast on the side? 😅And/Or do the Asian's rather just boil their eggs and hence the eggs might have less altered or oxidised fats? Which is probably not the case, just some random thoughts. Too many factors seem to always play a role in those studies. 🧐 Anyway...love your content! 🤘🙃

  • @scrollop
    @scrollop 2 месяца назад

    Great, thanks a lot!

  • @Chaotic313
    @Chaotic313 2 месяца назад

    An apropos video for my morning, as I just sat down to watch a video with my three egg breakfast! And I'm pairing it with my temperature perfect coffee from my "joeveo" mug. Thanks Dad!! 🥚🥚🥚☕😋

  • @zialuna
    @zialuna 2 месяца назад +1

    As with all animal products, the diet of the animal is important. Grass fed (vs. grain fed - usually grains with high pesticide & herbicide levels) will have a different nutrient profile as well as a lower burden of chemical residues. Grains are high in fatty acids that promote inflammation while grasses and forbes provide anti-inflammatory fatty acids. Big difference!

  • @NotThatKindOfKiwi86
    @NotThatKindOfKiwi86 2 месяца назад

    Could you collect all the data you've reviewed so far and make some kind of ultimate health guide?

  • @billsheehy1
    @billsheehy1 2 месяца назад +40

    I am 92 years old and I have been eating eggs my entire life along with free range bacon and I am still alive and kicking.

    • @Lozwave
      @Lozwave 2 месяца назад +6

      Congratulations I know smokers who are 80 and still kicking, doesn’t mean smoking and eggs don’t contribute to atherosclerosis

    • @doom9698
      @doom9698 2 месяца назад +4

      That's a nice anecdote. Wish you great health!

    • @jamescalifornia2964
      @jamescalifornia2964 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@Lozwave - Those who smoke and live a long life eat eggs ! 🥚👌

    • @ggpeebles
      @ggpeebles 2 месяца назад

      How many bypasses have you had?

    • @johantansir-nt4ep
      @johantansir-nt4ep 2 месяца назад +1

      Until i meet you in person, i will call this BS

  • @alansnyder8448
    @alansnyder8448 2 месяца назад

    This is a very timely video for me. I'm very healthy except for high LDL and ApoB results, so have started Lipitor to control cholesterol levels. This all started at the end of February.
    My typical breakfast was two eggs per day, which I tried to restrict. So, I've been debating if I should stop eating eggs, and these results do give some interesting things to think about. I think I won't completely stop eggs, since I know they have other benefits, but will at the same time keep a close eye on my LDL-C levels in blood tests which I plan on getting about every 6 months.

  • @YuanYuLiao
    @YuanYuLiao 2 месяца назад +9

    After doing a meta-analysis of more than 36 studies, I found your channel is one of the best we should follow.
    And you are one of the best, most intelligent and most ISTJ medical-health-nutricional RUclipsrs.
    However, as always, there is one caveat: you don't like (and might delete?) summarizer for your videos.

    • @Physionic
      @Physionic  2 месяца назад +1

      Yes, please no summaries - they hurt the channel.
      Thank you for the hard work on your meta-analysis. :)

    • @YuanYuLiao
      @YuanYuLiao 2 месяца назад +4

      @@Physionic Is there any meta-analysis showing that summaries hurt the channel?
      Or is it just your educated guess?
      Your videos have no timestamp, because you think it hurts the channel?

    • @marshallsaltzman9924
      @marshallsaltzman9924 2 месяца назад

      @@YuanYuLiaoit seems pretty common sense that if people get a summary then many just won’t watch the video. So all of his work would be wasted

    • @YuanYuLiao
      @YuanYuLiao 2 месяца назад

      @@marshallsaltzman9924 Please be careful with "common sense":
      Pseudo Dr. Berg and Pseudo Dr. Ekberg allow summary in their videos, both have millions of subscribers and views.
      Dr. Huberman too.
      Nevertheless, this is NOT the "proof" that summary help the channel.
      I will do a meta-analysis to find out.😃

  • @bobhill4364
    @bobhill4364 2 месяца назад +1

    Clearly the answer here is yes. Your risk simply goes up or down depending on what the rest of your diet looks like.
    A low dietary saturated fat and dietary cholesterol diet is simply the most protective and it's not even close.

  • @Frodojack
    @Frodojack 2 месяца назад +4

    I wonder if egg preparation matters, such as frying eggs in seed oil vs animal fat vs a healthier oil like evoo or avocado or no oil at all such as hard boiling.

    • @Physionic
      @Physionic  2 месяца назад +2

      Certainly a possibility

  • @bhut1571
    @bhut1571 2 месяца назад +3

    Yikes I typically eat two large or extra large eggs a day...14 eggs a week. I'm 78...maybe the end is near.

  • @shinola228
    @shinola228 2 месяца назад

    Interesting but my concern is the possible increase in prostate cancer associated with egg consumption. A video on that would be enlightening.

  • @phineas737
    @phineas737 2 месяца назад

    Any thoughts on studies that link egg consumption and prostate cancer?

  • @Pazuzu-
    @Pazuzu- 2 месяца назад +3

    Not sure about heart disease, but they can cause some massive allergies, even more severe than dairy.

    • @wolfrahmphosphoros5808
      @wolfrahmphosphoros5808 2 месяца назад

      but that is in People, Who are allergic. there are other foods that also cause allergic reactions in People, Who are allergic to certain compounds contained in them. or do You mean that a normally tolerated food can cause allergy in an otherwise non-allergic Person? regards. ps. why on Earth do You call Yourself "pazuzu"? I dare You, and Anybody reading this, to check out the case of pazuzu algarad-there are a few documentaries about the guy, You will be beyond disgusted having found out what da dude did in his house...

  • @Monnknight
    @Monnknight 2 месяца назад

    Can you make a video about Peptides E4 to treat fibrosis? There is also an article on the Internet that says that 20% of published research is false. What do you think about that? Thank you

  • @robblankenstein6825
    @robblankenstein6825 2 месяца назад

    Would like to see you review the Sydney heart diet study. Someone dug the data up.

  • @ramxehs1180
    @ramxehs1180 2 месяца назад

    Is this for cooking eggs with oils or every form of consumption like boiling or cooking with water?

  • @keesoosterheerd903
    @keesoosterheerd903 2 месяца назад

    Thanks for the video. Are the studies used in the meta-analysis double blind experiments or "just" observational studies? In the latter case I would take it with a pinch of salt (just as I take my 5 eggs a day, so it would be nice if I could downplay the risk).
    Cheers!

  • @tylercompton2896
    @tylercompton2896 2 месяца назад

    I would be interested to know, in a general population, if greater egg consumption is tied to greater overall consumption. I believe almost every food would have a greater risk if it is measured on an additive basis as opposed to a substitutional one.

  • @patrickdegenaar9495
    @patrickdegenaar9495 2 месяца назад +1

    It all depends on what else you eat when not eating eggs. For example in my own case breakfast cereals send my glucose levels straight into the diabetic range whereas 3 eggs do not. So even if eggs are associated with increased cholesterol, the glucose spiking effect of breakfast cereals is probably much worse. Also everyone responds differently, as well as differently with age.

  • @WakfuH
    @WakfuH 2 месяца назад

    Most people buy the cheapest eggs possible, I'm quite sure the balance switches to something more positive if we consider free range eggs, and even more if we consider omega 3 eggs (hens fed with flaxseed oil)

  • @PardieDiem
    @PardieDiem 2 месяца назад +13

    Chicken eggs coming from China, chickens fed soybean garbage feed, or chickens raised on free ranging bugs. It matters!. That's the problem with these studies. They are lacking in way too much data!!

    • @franklay5605
      @franklay5605 2 месяца назад +3

      Your underpants you are wearing coming from China also

    • @FuzzyBearYT
      @FuzzyBearYT 2 месяца назад +4

      So please reference the studies comparing how the variables you list change things?
      If you can't do that we will know you are merely expressing an opinion (i.e. a hate for anything from China which is a known horrible and wrong bias)

    • @KidHorn7001
      @KidHorn7001 2 месяца назад +2

      Are the Chinese shipping eggs to the US? Seems like refrigeration and shipping costs would be more than the retail cost.

    • @sophiacromwell8017
      @sophiacromwell8017 2 месяца назад

      @PardieDiem are you referencing eggs that come from farms that are in the US, and owned by Chinese/ follow common practices of Chinese animal husbandry? I don’t know enough about the ways that people from different cultures raise animals to comment on your question… I just know that I really like eggs that come from pasture raised chickens that eat a lot of bugs! LOL! They seem to have the most orange & tastiest yolks!

    • @PardieDiem
      @PardieDiem 2 месяца назад

      @@sophiacromwell8017 Do a search on food safety concerns in foods from China. I'm not saying the USA doesn't have safety concerns either. I was just pointing out there are issues with quality and that could reflect on the quality of the eggs in reference to a scientific study. Plus that's a long way for eggs to travel to get to your grocery store.

  • @immanuelkuhrt8508
    @immanuelkuhrt8508 2 месяца назад

    How about the role of cholin in the eggs in acetylcholin? I fry my egg whites for taste and better protein absorption, and I eat my yolks raw to preserve the cholin. Tastes fine in many foods. However, I don't know how the body actually deals with the cholin from the yolks - wether it gets put to good or bad use.

  • @scudderbrown9275
    @scudderbrown9275 2 месяца назад +2

    Is there ever any distinction between backyard free range chicken eggs vs factory farmed eggs? The eggs look so different. It seems like this could be why a study in Asia didn't show the negative results like the studies in the US.

    • @Ermude10
      @Ermude10 2 месяца назад +2

      No, almost all eggs in Asia are factory farmed nowadays as well. I think the health differences between free range and factory farmed are likely to be miniscule (although ethically they're very different.) My guess as to why the effects are different is that the way eggs are prepared differently. Eggs are likely being consumed together with more saturated fats (bacon, butter, etc) in the West compared to Asia which might use it more for stir frys.

  • @zachcain2639
    @zachcain2639 2 месяца назад

    My understanding is ~40% of people will see a sharp increase in LDL from dietary cholesterol. Hard to know if you’re a “hyper responder” without checking your own numbers. I saw a big drop in LDL when I cut out eggs

  • @gijane4070
    @gijane4070 2 месяца назад

    Good one, still would like to know if high LDL or oxidized LDL are the cause of atherosclerosis or both are as bad as each other????

  • @3cardmonty602
    @3cardmonty602 2 месяца назад

    I eat upwards of 60 eggs a month & when I had a heart catheterization performed 2 years ago my coronary arteries were clear. You might ask why I had to undergo a heart catheterization. I had to have my aortic valve replaced due to endocarditis. Still eating about 2 eggs per day, and my current lipids are: Total Cholesterol=186, Triglycerides=46, HDL=62, LDL=115, VLDL=9.

  • @juan_martinez524
    @juan_martinez524 2 месяца назад +1

    could you please analyse dr robert lustig and his "it's the fructose" theory?

    • @Lennythewinner
      @Lennythewinner 2 месяца назад

      Lustig also claims that branched chain amino acids can (and do) promote fatty liver disease. I recently did a cursory Google Scholar search using such terms as 'branched chain', 'leucine', 'fatty liver', 'NAFLD' in various combinations, and the general thrust of the references that my search returned - at least based on the articles' titles - was that branched chain amino acids protected against fatty liver disease, or at least mitigated some of its associated abnormalities.

  • @jaynyc2555
    @jaynyc2555 2 месяца назад

    I am interested in the research being done in Japan; on natural teeth regrowth. what the science says?

  • @ronmexico5908
    @ronmexico5908 2 месяца назад

    The medium length answer is potentially

  • @terber12392
    @terber12392 2 месяца назад

    I wonder about the quality of the egg, does it make a real difference. Such as "Egglands" which boasts higher Omega 3s, or "Pasture Raised" eggs. I noticed in the recent news about eggs they encouraged higher quality eggs.

  • @TCBytom
    @TCBytom 2 месяца назад

    One important note here. If confidence interval contains "1" we can't get decisive conclusion because group is too heterogenous regardless if it is RCT or epidemiological study. Confidence interval is important because is it a c.i. which provides main statistical conclusion for general population. Single value of RR refers ONLY to a stydy sample and is exact. True value of RR for general population lies inside confidence interval. But You said it, so I'm writting it for recapitulation. The second note: In epidemiological studies RR anything less than 2 is considered as a statistical hum even if test gives statistical significance. All presented meta-analysies were epidemiological ones. We need RCT studies.... Eggs have high fraction of HDL cholesterol and they tend to rise HDL in humans as much as even up to 50-80% from baseline. But we know that single nutrient works in specific context of other nutrients. Eggs work well in context lower carbohydrate diets and low consumption of Omega-6 fatty acids (seed oils in general). Eating eggs on SAD diet (Standard American Diet - eat as much sugar, sweets, starches and seed oils as you can) is a bad choice from my perspective..... Good video otherwise.

  • @dontrend5956
    @dontrend5956 2 месяца назад

    UPDATE: 11/20/2023
    Originally published 6/10/2023
    Several published research articles on eggs and prostate cancer point to choline, a nutrient primarily in egg yolks, as a possible culprit in causing prostate cancer (PCa). A 2022 Cleveland Clinic study[i] found that, “Men with increased choline … had almost twice the risk of lethal prostate cancer as controls,” according to a medical news story. Choline is an important nutrient, but overdoing it by consuming egg yolks may increase PCa risk. According to the published paper, “Men who consumed 2.5 or more eggs per week had a 81% increased risk of lethal prostate cancer compared to men who consumed less than half an egg per week.”

  • @stanleytomasetti1074
    @stanleytomasetti1074 2 месяца назад

    Question. Shouldn't you separate egg consumption and diet? Eggs and a high carb diet will have a different effect verses eggs and a keto diet. Do you agree?

  • @mrpatriot2909
    @mrpatriot2909 2 месяца назад

    What about eating only egg whites? I’m 65 Years old & very healthy :-) Love your videos!

  • @vojkostar
    @vojkostar 2 месяца назад

    is there an info on omega 3:&:9 ratio in eggs (gassfeed, organic or in battery grown chicken) ? i guess thiss is important how good egs are

  • @kimchionruis
    @kimchionruis 2 месяца назад

    It is critical what the fatty acid profile of the eggs are. As in, what were the chickens fed. Corn and canola? Or grass, bugs, and the odd mouse? Very different result.

  • @janiceg7661
    @janiceg7661 2 месяца назад +3

    I am adding eggs into my diet…I was trying to avoid because I thought with my high cholesterol I wanted to stay away from all dairy…I bought macadamia nuts and oil too after one of your videos. I’m desperate to lose 20 ish lbs and lower my cholesterol. Hashi hypo post menopause sux.

    • @aurapopescu1875
      @aurapopescu1875 2 месяца назад

      If you have Hashimoto's you need to cut out all gluten, all grains and possibly dairy as well. I went Keto exactly 5 years ago (at the age of 53) and that fixed ALL my health problems. I recommend you take a look at the videos of Amy Berger (Keto and thyroid specialist), Dr. Eric Berg, Dr. Eric Westman, Dr. Peter Osborne.

    • @ZmogusJaponija
      @ZmogusJaponija 2 месяца назад +3

      Hm, not sure how you will decrease cholesterol by consuming food which increase choleterol?

    • @aurapopescu1875
      @aurapopescu1875 2 месяца назад

      @@ZmogusJaponija Silly question...

    • @noah5291
      @noah5291 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@ZmogusJaponijaplease do not go keto if you are trying to lower your CDL. That guy who responded probably doesn't even believe that high CDL is harmful, when there is plenty of evidence that it is, including on this channel.

    • @ZmogusJaponija
      @ZmogusJaponija 2 месяца назад +3

      @@noah5291 too late. I was on low carb (little meat, but eggs 4 per day and diary and fish) for a ~5 year. It worked for a few years because I moved to keto from eating shit. But I ended up with LDL of 140, insulin resistance and brain inflamation (results of high saturated fat diet by the book). Luckily somehow I was able to break from keto/low carb bubble, got info about whole food plant based diet and it completely changed things for me.

  • @VoxBox1
    @VoxBox1 2 месяца назад +2

    Were any of these studies based upon food substitutions, i.e. substituting eggs for unhealthy foods, which would skew the results? Thanks.

    • @Physionic
      @Physionic  2 месяца назад +1

      Good question. No.

  • @Holy.HannaH
    @Holy.HannaH 2 месяца назад +1

    Almond vs Egg:
    I think we need to remember that the egg wont crack so easily or fall apart when it's in hot water, aka a fight🤷‍♀️
    In my opinion, this(like many other aspects) again comes back to fatty acids & mitochondrial haplogroups.
    Which would also explain the difference in the results between Asian peoples vs European & American.

  • @Mrwan13
    @Mrwan13 2 месяца назад

    Another study found a high correlation between eggs and heart disease with a 95% confidence interval, but looking deeper in the study it didn’t measure the cholesterol but the strain on the participants; as they were asked to try to lay eggs….

  • @chrislyons6951
    @chrislyons6951 9 дней назад

    Did the consumption of toast, butter and salt increase with every egg? If the studies controlled the daily calorie intake, then we need to know what the eggs were swapped with, fish or cake etc.

  • @stevenwilson6060
    @stevenwilson6060 2 месяца назад

    Thanks!

  • @franknurnberger1102
    @franknurnberger1102 2 месяца назад

    Quick question about how a meta-analysis of studies does actually help. If we do not look into the methodology of every single study, do we not run the risk of aggregating a lot of nonesensical studies? If you ask 1.000 hospital patients or 1.000 college students about their egg consumtion and then (ignoring all 1.000 their risk factors for their cardiological health) show some correlation, how does that make us any wiser?

  • @kinpatu
    @kinpatu 2 месяца назад +2

    Would be randomized in the studies but worth mentioning that there is a genetic mutation that makes a small minority of people hyperabsorbers of dietary cholesterol.

    • @wolfrahmphosphoros5808
      @wolfrahmphosphoros5808 2 месяца назад

      He's mentioned it in the video. regards.

    • @carinaekstrom1
      @carinaekstrom1 2 месяца назад

      And people with naturally low ldl may all hyper respond?

    • @kinpatu
      @kinpatu 2 месяца назад

      @@carinaekstrom1 Unlikely. A person would need the genetic mutation to absorb xenosterols. Those patients actually absorb a lot of phytostetols from plants, which is bad news.

  • @isoldam
    @isoldam 2 месяца назад +3

    A lot of people in the US use butter, which contains saturated fat, to cook eggs. High saturated fat consumption may be a factor in the difference from the Asian studies.

  • @ellenh278
    @ellenh278 19 дней назад

    Thank you.

  • @motivationtomakeparentsproud
    @motivationtomakeparentsproud 2 месяца назад

    Hello, please guide me, I eat about 5 small eggs daily so thats 35 per week and I workout 6 days a week for 2 hours every day. Should I stop eating eggs and consume whey protein and chicken for primary source of protein?? Should I get a blood test done?? Please.

  • @KidHorn7001
    @KidHorn7001 2 месяца назад

    I've seen videos that state how the eggs are cooked can have a big impact on their healthiness. Basically, cooking at high heat is bad. Something happens to the cholesterol at high temps. You should boil them in water. Don't fry them.

  • @qigong1001
    @qigong1001 2 месяца назад

    Eggs with bacon, or steak? Buttered toast? Anyway, if it raises LDL and some say in excess can be inflammatory, then have your eggs with avocado (anti-inflammatory and maybe increase HDL).

  • @frelsmeg
    @frelsmeg 2 месяца назад

    Asians tend to eat a lot of rice. Adding an egg to a rice meal may lower the glycemic index of that meal; done often may lower the A1C of the person.

  • @KasKade7
    @KasKade7 2 месяца назад +2

    I have been consuming 6 eggs/weekly for many years. Most of the time with bread and 2 at the time on weight lifting days. But the eggs I eat are very high in Vit.D3 and Omega3. You want eggs from chickens that have a great diet and are healthy themselves. The yolks should be almost a orange color. Very nutrient dense. Actually, I mainly take them for choline as a biohacker, not specificly for protein. As always, quality over quantity. Alot of protein is not a good thing, no matter how many health gurus try to convince yo otherwise.

    • @wolfrahmphosphoros5808
      @wolfrahmphosphoros5808 2 месяца назад +1

      colour is irrelevant, unless You get your eggs from a safe, high-quality source. colourants are added to chickens' feed that then give colour to egg-yolks. also, I wouldn't rely on any food for Vitamin-D. regards.

  • @JohnSmith-il7jn
    @JohnSmith-il7jn 2 месяца назад +1

    I eat one egg, banana or apple and some walnuts for breakfast. This seems about right in comparison to eating the traditional American breakfast of several eggs, bacon and toast every day.

  • @donwinston
    @donwinston 2 месяца назад +1

    I've always thought of focusing on a single food item a bit weird and likely results in useless analyses. It is the entire diet that matters, namely total saturated fat consumption.

  • @carinaekstrom1
    @carinaekstrom1 2 месяца назад +1

    So doesn't it all depend on what you are replacing with those eggs? And is it even possible to keep your ldl as low as 50-70 (with diet only) if you keep eating eggs?

    • @ZmogusJaponija
      @ZmogusJaponija 2 месяца назад +1

      Nope. If you are aiming at 50-70, this can be possible with mainly whole food plant based diet with little or no oil, but nuts and seeds. Both Dr. Greger and J. Fuhrman has more info and links to multiple studies. Ok, one egg per week maybe you can get away with.

    • @pomberry3591
      @pomberry3591 2 месяца назад

      What do you mean "with diet only", you cannot remove genetic factors from the equation.

    • @carinaekstrom1
      @carinaekstrom1 2 месяца назад

      @@pomberry3591 The majority of people don't have genetic difficulty keeping ldl low. It's mostly a dietary choice.

  • @garyanderson7050
    @garyanderson7050 2 месяца назад

    Would be good to test just egg yolks or whites

  • @FuzzyBearYT
    @FuzzyBearYT 2 месяца назад

    Here's a study to contemplate...how does increasing egg consumption impact the health of those with Type II on medication vs those not taking any.

  • @RXP91
    @RXP91 2 месяца назад

    Love the nuance in these videos. As ever - compared to what? Compared to breakfast meats, hell no it's much better! Compared to a tofu scramble sure, even if it's a tiny amount (LDL raising)

    • @ZmogusJaponija
      @ZmogusJaponija 2 месяца назад

      You mentioned tofu in carnivore/keto community comments. Brave soul :)))

    • @Physionic
      @Physionic  2 месяца назад +1

      Always compared against 0 egg consumption. Thanks!

    • @noah5291
      @noah5291 2 месяца назад +2

      ​@@ZmogusJaponijaactually there's plenty of vegans who watch Nick's videos, including myself. This doesn't seem to be a carnivore/keto channel, it seems like Nick is interested in the truth, I see commenters of all different stripes in here.

    • @ZmogusJaponija
      @ZmogusJaponija 2 месяца назад

      @@noah5291 Those vegans are pretty silent then :) Quickly looked through the comments here, seems majority here eats XX eggs per week and have an uncle who was eating 20 eggs per day and lived until 96 :)))

    • @noah5291
      @noah5291 2 месяца назад +1

      @@ZmogusJaponija that's because most people are omnivores, and most keto and carnivore people can't help but the write up a 3 sentence paragraph as soon as eggs, keto, or some other combo of words sets them off.

  • @Kreuzauge
    @Kreuzauge 2 месяца назад +1

    Frying up 4 eggs in a few minutes - thanks!

  • @ArchieArpeggio
    @ArchieArpeggio 2 месяца назад

    Well that is the problem of these random studies that the other factors for general health, lifestyle and diet is so different for people that so reliable studies are imposible to make just adding few eggs into the diet.
    There should always be large amount of people (even better if everyone would be a clones from one human) and everybody should have same kind of health, diet and lifestyle.
    Also it makes big difference are people having carb based "normal" diet/lifestyle or ketogenic.
    For food in general is it mostly processed or whole foods made from scratch.

  • @tspicks4360
    @tspicks4360 2 месяца назад

    I wonder if the studies in these meta analyses were looking at particular age groups, etc. I've seen some such that looked at "university graduates" and found no association between egg consumption and cvd ... but then, we wouldn't expect much at younger ages. I know a meta analysis is said to be the gold standard for examining such questions, but I've seen too many with, essentially, sketchy studies included.

  • @icub4ucstr8
    @icub4ucstr8 2 месяца назад

    I’m 64, lifelong athlete, I take zero prescription drugs, lift weights, average 10,000 steps a day, do two HIIT workouts in the pool a week, use my Joeveo miracle travel coffee mug a few times a day, do a 72 hour water fast during the first week of every month, track my macros in My Fitness Pal and believe the chicken was created first before the egg! 🍳 My goal is to consume 4 eggs a day so I’m at 90 to 120 eggs per month. Organic brown eggs from Costco. My blood work is spot on and my general appearance and stature is better than many friends of mine 15 to 20 years my junior. Since I’m very serious about being responsible for my own healthcare I dropped my Health Insurance at age 50 and have saved a lot of money 🤑 and have certainly been healthier for it!

  • @aurapopescu1875
    @aurapopescu1875 2 месяца назад +9

    Eggs are a multivitamin.
    The only food which is even more nutrient-dense than eggs is liver.
    And choline is an extremely important nutrient, especially for the liver. I had NAFLD for 10 years, I was told that it was "irreversible" 🤣 I reversed it within the first year on Keto!!!

    • @wolfrahmphosphoros5808
      @wolfrahmphosphoros5808 2 месяца назад +1

      shellfish is more nutrient-dense than eggs, no? also other organ-meats, not only liver. regards.

    • @carinaekstrom1
      @carinaekstrom1 2 месяца назад +2

      I bet you lost weight.

    • @aurapopescu1875
      @aurapopescu1875 2 месяца назад +1

      @@wolfrahmphosphoros5808 Shellfish is highly nutrient dense but has no choline, as far as I know.
      And methinks other organs are somewhat less nutritious than liver.
      But eating nose-to-tail is always a good idea.

    • @aurapopescu1875
      @aurapopescu1875 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@carinaekstrom1 No. I was not overweight. I was TOFI. A lot of people with health problems are not overweight.

    • @carinaekstrom1
      @carinaekstrom1 2 месяца назад +2

      @@aurapopescu1875 What is TOFI?

  • @LeviathanSparrow
    @LeviathanSparrow 2 месяца назад +23

    So, two key takeaways. Are these correct?
    1) eggs can be good for you if you're healthy
    2) an almond would win a fight against an egg

    • @Physionic
      @Physionic  2 месяца назад +5

      I think that's fair to say... :)

    • @soylentgreenb
      @soylentgreenb 2 месяца назад +1

      No. The key takeaway is that it's all full of confounders and a relative risk ratio between 0.5 - 2.0 is not likely to even be real.

    • @powerguiller
      @powerguiller 2 месяца назад +5

      Almond would win in accumulating oxalates😂

    • @PardieDiem
      @PardieDiem 2 месяца назад +2

      @@powerguiller Eggzactly!

    • @werundwarum
      @werundwarum 2 месяца назад

      @@powerguillerbetter getting kidney stones than dying of prostate cancer 😅

  • @not_sure...
    @not_sure... 2 месяца назад

    The lack of randomized double-blind placebo-controlled trials in your analysis will make me feel confident in continuing to eat my 3-4 daily eggs. Not to mention my grandpa of 90 years that's been eating more eggs than this his entire life.

  • @thanehumphrey6476
    @thanehumphrey6476 2 месяца назад

    Thank you for your egg analysis. You nailed it...definitely a confusing topic.
    Now, can we talk you into diving into Alzheimer's? Specifically the use of Sildenafil in reducing risk by 60%.
    Would love to hear your analysis before forming my own opinion. Thank you!

  • @timelschner8451
    @timelschner8451 2 месяца назад

    Every single food or nutrition must be evaluated in the context of the metabolic state of the body that is consuming it. low vs high insulin enviroment. The same food has a very specific effect on your system. We need much more nuance and contextual perspective to come to more robust statements about what is "good" and what is "bad". A food in condition A with amount B under the metabolic condition C will have effect D within this uncertainty interval E.

  • @TheCarnivoreHuman
    @TheCarnivoreHuman 2 месяца назад

    In the US, people who eat more eggs tend to eat more overall. Did the studies take BMI into account? This could explain the Asian differences as they have lower BMI.
    Are you current on cholesterol studies, many doctors are saying low cholesterol increases health risks. Is cholesterol like the low fat studies in the past?