great instruction. I like how when things didn't go as planned, you didn't scrap the video to start over. Things don't always go as planned in the woods and seeing someone persevere in the face of the unexpected is a good example to show.
Michael Reed - I completely agree! I also appreciate seeing the 'failures' so that I can learn from them (and know I'm not the only one). Black Owl Outdoors - Thank you for this video! I was just trying my hand at making a feather stick a few days ago and wasn't sure what I was not doing right. I have a good idea on how to succeed now!
Conves edges are arguably better because of how they dont want to bite into the wood as much and thus will kick out the feather and keep a good thin shallow cut. Scandi grinds require much more precision or it will break the feather or cut too deep into the wood. Hollow grinds are the worst in this case. Chisel grinds are hell to me because they try to cut super deep into the wood. All asymmetrical grinds suck for wood processing
That has got to be the best feather sticking tutorial I have seen on youtube! What I like to do is to use the split pieces of kindling and roughly half feather a fair few of them so they take the flame and self ignite.
Awesome vid! Hands down feather stick video champ. In my modest attempt to add to this work art I would say that a brief detailing of why feather sticks are useful would have been icing on the cake. What I mean is; why not just fine shavings? Why do they have to remain connected and become feather sticks? Anyone who has made fire in high wind or leaf litter without a bandana/poncho/hat/etc will probably know why, but maybe some others do not. Never the less the unbiased approach you took in this video is refreshing and much appreciated.
YAKMAN HERE ! GREAT JOB ON THE FEATHERS STICKING … MY SELF , SIX OR EIGHT MORAS…. & SIX OF THE ESSE KNIFES , LOVE THAT CARBON ! ! U ARE 100 % ON THE MONEY … YOUR WOOD SHOULD BE DRY … KEEP BRING THOSE GREAT VIDEOS A COMING MR.OWL ! ! YAKMAN OUT ! ! 🎄🎄🎅
Krik, that might be green (i.e. wet or unseasoned wood) however, even dried poplar has green colored heartwood. When you were splitting that blank, it sounded like it was dry. Either way, that green color is a characteristic of poplar, not a sign of how wet the wood is or how well it will burn. Keep up the great work, I love your videos and have even used some of them to introduce or teach outdoor skills to my sons.
Krick, Most excellent tutorial and you hit on a lot of nuances that are left out. One additional point would be to taking care of the feather and tinder prep BEFORE you get into the bucking, limbing and splitting of fuel wood because your hands will be very tired from the heavy work involved. You need a steady hand for the intricate and delicate detail of peeling off those critical ignition feathers you finished off with and when your hands are tired from heavy work, the will not be steady and will not have fine point control. This was a hard lesson I learned some years back when I was in freezing temps while fishing and in pretty dire need of some fire. Thanks a bunch and good to see you bounce back and fully recovered!
Morakniv Bushcraft Black properly sharpened/reprofiled, is the best feathersticker and the best fire making knife, I've ever used and I tried A LOT. Even 400$ knives...
Awesome video appreciate you taking the time to make it, great instructions. I’m currently trying get my feather stick skill up to par and this has me in the right direction. Thank you keep them coming
The video on making feather sticks with different grind knives was very revealing. The more economical Mora knife seemed to work a little better than what the more expensive knives did. Great lessons.
Thank you for this great instruction. I like the way you explain what you are doing, why and how you are doing it and what is to be considered. Last but not least I like that you show this is no about magic but concentration and how to deal with imperfection. I enjoyed the video - thanks!
It was really interesting to see how the different grinds preformed differently. I know they are all capable of creating a feather stick, but it's cool to see how the technique must change with the grind. I personally like a convex grind on my belt knife. For a lot of woods use it is the strongest edge. But I keep a really sharp Opinel No. 9 in my pocket for feather sticks. I think the full flat grind, on a thin blade, allows you to make the shallowest cuts, and therefore the finest curls.
@@BlackOwlOutdoors - you said a sharp knife is what's most important -- but can you use something like a boxcutter knife or razor blade? Or are those too flimsy?
@@manofsan You can but you have to be careful because of how delicate the blade and edge is and if the wood is to wet it would be far more dificult, I would say avoid it if possible but if a box cutter is all you have and you need to start a fire id say slow and steady wins it.
Moarrr! I loved watching the esee 4 part since that's what I use. I find myself having a difficult time making good feather sticks with it. I enjoyed the technical aspect of the edge direction moving curls a certain way. I would love more feather stick videos, maybe using various types of wood or tips on feather sticks for hard wood.
BlackOwlOutdoors Definitely agree. These are the main selling points of the Mora companion, along with how much quality you get for the money. I just find myself (similar to in this video) grabbing it when I know I need complete control for a cutting task. Thanks. -Matt
Really enjoyed this one. Great idea to show the different grinds. Interesting that you went to the scandi grind at the end when you needed to concentrate and get some feathers that would take a spark. I would agree that the best thing is to just have practice with the knife you have.
Nice demo Krik, i Like the way you trial all 4 knives you showed us they all work but you got to train first. All in the preparation. thanks for sharing. Atb Louis
great video guys!!! I'm by no means "great" at feathers ticks, but it's covered so well in this video, I found two things I was doing wrong 1) improper ridges 2) locking my elbow - I think that may be one reason I over cut and lob off he feathers before I'm done. I love these Bushcraft skill videos, always great to get an in depth view at other peoples skills.
Primal Edge I've seen people say you can lock your elbow. Maybe with a super strong power cut. But for something that needs more control, I definitely don't lock mine. Work it and see if it helps at all. Thanks for watching as always. -Krik
Great video, thanks. Good pace, not too slow yet still very informative. I also like how things did not go exactly as you had wished but you kept on, real life, and you showed how useful it your feather sticks were. Thanks again.
Enjoyed the video. Feather sticks only need to be effective not perfect. As you illustrated...it worked. I do agree with you about choice and dryness of the wood. Convex grinds definitely work best with very dry wood. They tend to "bite" to deeply with the green stuff.
BlackOwlOutdoors Do you guys ever mess with the BOB knife you reviewed before? I've only been out once or twice with mine and am trying to get the hang of feather sticking with it, the weather hasn't cooperated with my last few backpacking trips. Seems like it's kindof a convex edged scandi, they call it a "modified scandi"
I really enjoy your videos. Keep it up. It's relaxing to see a sharp knife into wood at the end of the day, and I know only the people like us would understand it. thanks you guys :)
Great video awesome that you had issues of your own it helps us highlight problems we might encounter and makes learning so much quicker, nice to see your goofy side coming out Krik lol your a top bloke.
Nice video cool Chanel in austrailiA we have pine and gum and red gum these are the best fire woods ps I'm thinking about buying a striker witch one should i buy
Hi! Lately I have start using feathersticks, and I have notised that the wood and the knife do matters. :) I liked the video, it was well presented and I learned a few tricks I didn´t know about, for example to use the edges of the last carv and some about different edges. It was nicely filmed, zoomed on the right places. I am so glad that the Mora seemed to work best to do curls this time. Thank you for sharing. /Ulrica
Jacked up on Coffee haha. I can relate. Coffee studies I have seen and my own experience for the last few decades have proven that coarse motor skills are increased yet fine motor skills can suffer somewhat or greatly depending on the dose (my max at one time was 900 mg but I have read of doses up to 6000 mg on Erowid...not pretty). Anyway guys, Great vid. Not a true test of the knives grinds etc but was never meant to be. The Mora wins for these tasks out of the ones you have since it is light and nimble but also... 'dat grind'...three levels of shallow cutting power (inc. The 2ndary bevel you sharpen on apart from that main bevel which leads nicely into the flatish blade). Just eats it up. It makes Zero sense to me to not own at least a basic Mora due to price, performance, grind, ease of sharpening and weight..it's not really even there till you need it. Cheers
Super easy no-skill way to make feathersticks: use the sharp spine of a knife and run it down the stick with lots of force. If the spine isnt sharp enough use the edge of your knife perpendicular to the stick. It'll poop out feathers easily. Works especially well with fatwood, so its a really good way to start fires
So what's the best grind type for making feather sticks in your opinion? Which one allows you to control angle between knife and sticks more carefully? thank you
Great video! We can learn more when things DON'T go right, and then when they do. A video where somebody just shows off isn't as good to learn from. Thanks!
Finally found a video that helps me see what I'm doing wrong mine usually look like your first one but can't ever get the feathers to stay more than half the stick
Poplar is pretty soft, can you get nice curls like that with hard wood?I don't use feather sticks, never needed them. But I am going to start practicing with them because I want another tool in my kit.
+Jeff Witt It's possible to get nice curls from hardwood. But I haven't been able to get super thin curls from hardwoods. I haven't really experimented with that in a while. Maybe we'll do a video on it. Thanks for watching.
great instruction. I like how when things didn't go as planned, you didn't scrap the video to start over. Things don't always go as planned in the woods and seeing someone persevere in the face of the unexpected is a good example to show.
Michael Reed - I completely agree! I also appreciate seeing the 'failures' so that I can learn from them (and know I'm not the only one).
Black Owl Outdoors - Thank you for this video! I was just trying my hand at making a feather stick a few days ago and wasn't sure what I was not doing right. I have a good idea on how to succeed now!
a trick: you can watch series on flixzone. Been using it for watching lots of of movies recently.
@Ignacio Sergio definitely, have been watching on Flixzone} for years myself :D
Really, my favorite thing about these videos is that mistakes aren't edited out. Good stuff.
Best feathersticking tutorial I have seen thus far. I like the real world footage of successes and misfires. Thanks.
Great video, even after 7 years still stands up, thanks.
Great video! I liked the fact that you didn’t edit out what didn’t work and explained what went wrong. It actually added value to the lesson.
Cris is the best at making fires
You just can't beat Scandi on wood.
r91976 scandi *sucks* on wood.
Conves edges are arguably better because of how they dont want to bite into the wood as much and thus will kick out the feather and keep a good thin shallow cut. Scandi grinds require much more precision or it will break the feather or cut too deep into the wood. Hollow grinds are the worst in this case. Chisel grinds are hell to me because they try to cut super deep into the wood. All asymmetrical grinds suck for wood processing
@@William_Asston agree, scandi cuts too deep
That has got to be the best feather sticking tutorial I have seen on youtube! What I like to do is to use the split pieces of kindling and roughly half feather a fair few of them so they take the flame and self ignite.
***** I sure do love utilizing feather sticks. There's nothing better than using a freshly sharpened knife to feather some wood!
Awesome vid! Hands down feather stick video champ. In my modest attempt to add to this work art I would say that a brief detailing of why feather sticks are useful would have been icing on the cake. What I mean is; why not just fine shavings? Why do they have to remain connected and become feather sticks? Anyone who has made fire in high wind or leaf litter without a bandana/poncho/hat/etc will probably know why, but maybe some others do not. Never the less the unbiased approach you took in this video is refreshing and much appreciated.
YAKMAN HERE !
GREAT JOB ON THE FEATHERS STICKING …
MY SELF , SIX OR EIGHT MORAS…. & SIX OF THE ESSE KNIFES , LOVE THAT CARBON ! !
U ARE 100 % ON THE MONEY … YOUR WOOD SHOULD BE DRY …
KEEP BRING THOSE GREAT VIDEOS A COMING MR.OWL ! !
YAKMAN OUT ! ! 🎄🎄🎅
Really enjoyed the video. I was hoping to hear more about what you liked/didn't like about each of the grinds though.
Krik, that might be green (i.e. wet or unseasoned wood) however, even dried poplar has green colored heartwood. When you were splitting that blank, it sounded like it was dry. Either way, that green color is a characteristic of poplar, not a sign of how wet the wood is or how well it will burn.
Keep up the great work, I love your videos and have even used some of them to introduce or teach outdoor skills to my sons.
Those curls at the end are great!
Krick,
Most excellent tutorial and you hit on a lot of nuances that are left out. One additional point would be to taking care of the feather and tinder prep BEFORE you get into the bucking, limbing and splitting of fuel wood because your hands will be very tired from the heavy work involved. You need a steady hand for the intricate and delicate detail of peeling off those critical ignition feathers you finished off with and when your hands are tired from heavy work, the will not be steady and will not have fine point control. This was a hard lesson I learned some years back when I was in freezing temps while fishing and in pretty dire need of some fire. Thanks a bunch and good to see you bounce back and fully recovered!
Morakniv Bushcraft Black properly sharpened/reprofiled, is the best feathersticker and the best fire making knife, I've ever used and I tried A LOT. Even 400$ knives...
Awesome video appreciate you taking the time to make it, great instructions. I’m currently trying get my feather stick skill up to par and this has me in the right direction. Thank you keep them coming
Nice video. Fewer more satisfying things than a nice feathery curl of wood with a sharp knife!
The video on making feather sticks with different grind knives was very revealing. The more economical Mora knife seemed to work a little better than what the more expensive knives did. Great lessons.
Thank you for this great instruction. I like the way you explain what you are doing, why and how you are doing it and what is to be considered. Last but not least I like that you show this is no about magic but concentration and how to deal with imperfection. I enjoyed the video - thanks!
It was really interesting to see how the different grinds preformed differently. I know they are all capable of creating a feather stick, but it's cool to see how the technique must change with the grind. I personally like a convex grind on my belt knife. For a lot of woods use it is the strongest edge. But I keep a really sharp Opinel No. 9 in my pocket for feather sticks. I think the full flat grind, on a thin blade, allows you to make the shallowest cuts, and therefore the finest curls.
Don't worry feather stick is not a beauty contest, as long as they can catch a spark it's all good ! Great video ;)
***** Agreed. But I like to advance my skills constantly. So that's why I was being a little hard on myself. Thanks for watching. -Krik
Keep up the good work, i really enjoy watching your vids, you have a geat channel ;) greetings from France
@@BlackOwlOutdoors - you said a sharp knife is what's most important -- but can you use something like a boxcutter knife or razor blade? Or are those too flimsy?
@@manofsan You can but you have to be careful because of how delicate the blade and edge is and if the wood is to wet it would be far more dificult, I would say avoid it if possible but if a box cutter is all you have and you need to start a fire id say slow and steady wins it.
Enjoyed. Like to see some more leather work.
That second one looks way better. I'm practicing on my feather sticks. Looking at videos for tips.
Nice work, thanks for the detailed instruction. I also appreciate the fact that your videos feel honest and not overly “staged”.
i tried this for the first time earlier tonight. I didn't get any of my sparks to take. This helps. Clearly I need to make the pieces thinner
Moarrr! I loved watching the esee 4 part since that's what I use. I find myself having a difficult time making good feather sticks with it. I enjoyed the technical aspect of the edge direction moving curls a certain way. I would love more feather stick videos, maybe using various types of wood or tips on feather sticks for hard wood.
Consider it a lesson learned! Mora=woodworking master
MoHawkinsBass There are a few reasons for that. Mainly, the thinness of the blade and grind. They're just not the strongest edges. -Krik
BlackOwlOutdoors Definitely agree. These are the main selling points of the Mora companion, along with how much quality you get for the money. I just find myself (similar to in this video) grabbing it when I know I need complete control for a cutting task. Thanks.
-Matt
Can you do more of the leather craft vids?
Deserves much more views!!!
Really enjoyed this one. Great idea to show the different grinds. Interesting that you went to the scandi grind at the end when you needed to concentrate and get some feathers that would take a spark. I would agree that the best thing is to just have practice with the knife you have.
Great demo. Showing the different grinds and the resulting feather stick very helpful. Thanks. atb
great close up shots.
Great video and thanks for taking the time to make it and share your wisdom.
Nice demo Krik, i Like the way you trial all 4 knives you showed us they all work but you got to train first. All in the preparation. thanks for sharing. Atb Louis
I think you did a great job at showing how to featherstick and I havent seen alot of videos showing these methods. So keep it up
Great vid guys! Enjoyed it...
Great video! loved how you used different knife grinds on the wood.
Very good demonstration. Thanks
Teds Outdoors HoodCraft Survival Grazie
Nice demonstration about makting feather sticks.
Uwe
great video guys!!! I'm by no means "great" at feathers ticks, but it's covered so well in this video, I found two things I was doing wrong 1) improper ridges 2) locking my elbow - I think that may be one reason I over cut and lob off he feathers before I'm done. I love these Bushcraft skill videos, always great to get an in depth view at other peoples skills.
Primal Edge I've seen people say you can lock your elbow. Maybe with a super strong power cut. But for something that needs more control, I definitely don't lock mine. Work it and see if it helps at all. Thanks for watching as always. -Krik
BlackOwlOutdoors will do, grazzi!
Awesome video! So helpful.
Enjoyed the content 👌 new to Bush crafting techniques and I got some good pointers
Great video, thanks. Good pace, not too slow yet still very informative. I also like how things did not go exactly as you had wished but you kept on, real life, and you showed how useful it your feather sticks were. Thanks again.
Good info, Krik
Cool vid guys! Keep the good videos and info coming!
Another awesome vid! I like that you used different knives with different grinds. I love my Mora!!
damn you and your hypnotic feather sticks....
As always, Krik, I enjoyed your sharing of knowledge. Switching between the grinds could throw the best for a loop! You did well for the situation.
Thanks for the tips I am practicing for sure!
Nice demo thanks!
Thanks man. Ill try it.
As usual another quality video. Thx mate.👍🏻
Awesome video man!
Enjoyed the video. Feather sticks only need to be effective not perfect. As you illustrated...it worked. I do agree with you about choice and dryness of the wood. Convex grinds definitely work best with very dry wood. They tend to "bite" to deeply with the green stuff.
bushcraft2012 Nice point. I've had good success with convex and feather sticks. Maybe that wood was dryer. -Krik
BlackOwlOutdoors Do you guys ever mess with the BOB knife you reviewed before? I've only been out once or twice with mine and am trying to get the hang of feather sticking with it, the weather hasn't cooperated with my last few backpacking trips. Seems like it's kindof a convex edged scandi, they call it a "modified scandi"
Good vid.. Would like to see more videos on different kinds of shelter building....
Enjoyed the vid!
Strangely satisfying. I tried making these last time I was camping and it was so hard I gave up lol
I really enjoy your videos. Keep it up. It's relaxing to see a sharp knife into wood at the end of the day, and I know only the people like us would understand it.
thanks you guys :)
Good job! Really enjoyed the video.
+God's Woodsman Thanks man!
I think that was great thanks for sharing!
I think your feathersticks are fine. Thanks for the vid.
Nice video! This was really helpful
Cool video man,nice tips.
Jesus ive never heard krik laugh that hard
Well presented info. Thank you for getting it put together for us. Just subbed.
Thanks for the instruction. Cheers mate
Great video awesome that you had issues of your own it helps us highlight problems we might encounter and makes learning so much quicker, nice to see your goofy side coming out Krik lol your a top bloke.
Really great video, been trying to get a lot better at feathering
K193 same, their always too thick for me :( Or maybe my ferro rod is bad... They dont seem to thick :/
I like the instructions and tips given, and hey, who cares if they're ugly? we care if they BURN!!
your videos are awesome and incredibly informative! thanks for sharing your knowledge.
thank you bro...enjoyed watching the vid
Nice video cool Chanel in austrailiA we have pine and gum and red gum these are the best fire woods ps I'm thinking about buying a striker witch one should i buy
Good video!
Great videos, much appreciated!
jacked up in the woods, fun!
say, did you mention what is your preferred grind for carving feather sticks?
Well done video, very informative. I really enjoyed this and will be watching others you produce. Thanks.
+RehoKevin Awesome! Let me know if you have any questions about anything we've done!
Perfect video, cheers!
Love your channel brother! Great content!
I liked the info
Awesome video
Good job I like the vid thanks.
Morakniv Companions are the best blade ever made for the money. They could charge 3x the money and it would still be a steal!
Hi! Lately I have start using feathersticks, and I have notised that the wood and the knife do matters. :) I liked the video, it was well presented and I learned a few tricks I didn´t know about, for example to use the edges of the last carv and some about different edges. It was nicely filmed, zoomed on the right places. I am so glad that the Mora seemed to work best to do curls this time. Thank you for sharing. /Ulrica
Jacked up on Coffee haha. I can relate. Coffee studies I have seen and my own experience for the last few decades have proven that coarse motor skills are increased yet fine motor skills can suffer somewhat or greatly depending on the dose (my max at one time was 900 mg but I have read of doses up to 6000 mg on Erowid...not pretty).
Anyway guys, Great vid. Not a true test of the knives grinds etc but was never meant to be. The Mora wins for these tasks out of the ones you have since it is light and nimble but also... 'dat grind'...three levels of shallow cutting power (inc. The 2ndary bevel you sharpen on apart from that main bevel which leads nicely into the flatish blade). Just eats it up. It makes Zero sense to me to not own at least a basic Mora due to price, performance, grind, ease of sharpening and weight..it's not really even there till you need it. Cheers
EarlyMist I try to stay away from coffee. But I sure do love hot chocolate and coffee mixed. Mmm.
Super easy no-skill way to make feathersticks: use the sharp spine of a knife and run it down the stick with lots of force. If the spine isnt sharp enough use the edge of your knife perpendicular to the stick. It'll poop out feathers easily. Works especially well with fatwood, so its a really good way to start fires
So what's the best grind type for making feather sticks in your opinion? Which one allows you to control angle between knife and sticks more carefully? thank you
Nice insight thx a lot
Great video! We can learn more when things DON'T go right, and then when they do. A video where somebody just shows off isn't as good to learn from. Thanks!
Difficult to comprehend feather sticking with semi green wood. I never had any luck with this method. Appreciate your honestsy.
good job
The 16:00 was the best one
Fire likes chaos
Can you show your shoulder hold down to wrist??
Sweet. Which knife is easiest to use for feather stick
Thx for the info!
will it work with a leatherman wave
alex escorcio If it's sharp and you have the skill, it will work.
ok
Witch grind is the best for feather sticks in your opinion?
Finally found a video that helps me see what I'm doing wrong mine usually look like your first one but can't ever get the feathers to stay more than half the stick
Poplar is pretty soft, can you get nice curls like that with hard wood?I don't use feather sticks, never needed them. But I am going to start practicing with them because I want another tool in my kit.
+Jeff Witt It's possible to get nice curls from hardwood. But I haven't been able to get super thin curls from hardwoods. I haven't really experimented with that in a while. Maybe we'll do a video on it. Thanks for watching.
Nice! But how do you choose the wood do you have any preferences or just that I seem to be dry enough?