I was a NYC bicycle messenger and learned a about road & track bikes. Atala, masi, fragis,corso,and a host of sort after frames, forks and groupos, zeus, gimepi, camping, I own a Fuji track bike today. I had fun and meet a lot of interesting people made a lot of friendships that are still bonded. I thank God for all it.
I simply cannot believe Cinelli didn’t make the list. I believe this is on purpose, though, saving brands for a follow-up video. Cinelli was the biggest omission, among DeRosa, Willier and Gios, to name a few.
So good! If there was more space, I feel Cinelli would of course deserve to be here, as well as De Rosa, but I think Tomasso, Somec, Tomassini, and Chesini could be here as well, despite being much less well-known!
Absolutely LOVE my Oltre XR4! After buying my first Italian bike, I can't imagine going back to the world of Trek, Specialized, and Giant, anymore. My next bike will be the Colnago C60 replacement or Wilier Cento Air Romato.
My first real bike was a steel Ciocc, complete with the eggshell to royal blue paint fade, stamped cutouts and chrome in all the right places. When I wasn't riding it I was staring at it. I feel the same way about the carbon DeRosa that I ride now. If you were to do a second feature I'd love to see those two iconic brands included.
I bought an Atala bike around 1977, from a bike shop on Staten Island. The owner wanted to get rid of itso bad he said he'd give me my wife's bike for half price if I'd buy it. I ended up with 2 bikes for around $200. That Atala was beautiful, Campagnolo derailleur, a beautiful white, with red and green accents...I loved that beauty.
I just built a Colnago President with a Campagnolo Record groupset and Eurus wheels. All the major components including the frameset were purchased second-hand off eBay. It’s old school now but in my view it’s still a fantastic bicycle that I plan to keep forever.
In the early 1970s in the California bicycle racing scene, it seemed that Masi and Cinelli were the two bikes that everyone want to own. I waited three months for my 1971 Masi Gran Criterium and still have it and ride it to this day. I would love to see Masi and Cinelli profiled.
Matt, that was a crazy-good review! Maybe you can do a similar show on the iconic component companies: Campagnolo, Shimano etc., . Or maybe the iconic tire companies: Michelin, Continental, etc., Or maybe the history of cycling countries? Or, or, or... Please.
Great seeing Matt back! Guerciotti holds a place in my soul as does the much smaller Canadian company Marinoni. I still use my 1982 Guerciotti on rollers.
Simon Rano Well it could have been 6 or 12. It was great already, but ignoring Wilier and De Rosa, two brands of rich history that are still in business and that a recent cyclist could thus relate to, seems to be a mistake. Anyway, perhaps will those be covered in a other video ?
I think it is impossible for anyone to watch and listen to your videos and not become instantly a fan of cycling. In my view, you master a rare talent of making your audiences want to watch more and more of your presentations. I think it would be very interesting if you could upload a video of yours commenting on Raleigh bicycles (used to have one, some fifty years ago, as a teenager). Thank you so much.
Niels Heldens I understand this point of view. However, I would like to invite you to join the 21rst century ;). I love Italian frames but have only ridden Shimano. I love the buttery smooth shifts and sure braking. When I was getting into cycling many years ago, I really wanted Campy on my Bottecchia. My local bike shop advised me to stay clear of the Campy mid-range and suggested that the Shimano was a far superior Group San. So, I consider the crime to be that Campy allowed their mid range groupo to be outdone by Shimano.
Thanks so much for the bike brand history. You forgot; Fondreist, DeRosa, Guerciotti, Abici, and Ciocc. I love to learn about cycling history. How about a video on some famous french bikes? Please keep it coming.
British, Russian, African and American bike brands (not all one video of course) maybe a bikes of the world segment, each episode a different country. Exploring the cycling trends and accomplishments with in.
Love your channel, really, I do! Just one small criticism. You pronounce certain brands wrongly. Most commonly Campagnolo and other Italian names that incluge "gn". It is pronounced Campañolo (with the spanish n as an example). The "G" is always silent in Italian words containing "GN" and N is always Ñ. I hope I didn't cross the line here. Respect!
THANK YOU for explaining the pronunciation! I do the same with "Adidas" and "Michangelo" (and others) - that are SO mispronounced (!!!) it's "ADEE-das" and "MICK-uh-ang-yoo-low".
@@PyroSax actually it's Adidas. Accent is on the first A. It's a German brand. Stems from the owner's name Adolf Dassler. Adi is the nickname for Adolf. So, Adi Das. English speaking folk think it's adEEdas. It's wrong.
Those steel bikes were beautiful. Don’t know anything about them. Had no idea there were so many iconic Italian brands. I obviously know little about this type of cycling. I’m a recent (downhill) mountain biker. Have taken to it like a duck to water. It’s such a great summer bookend to fairly extreme downhill skiing. My first love. With that said there is little elegance to great downhill bikes. Those steel road bikes ooze beauty and elegance. Thank you for this vid.
THANK YOU!! LOVE cycling history!! Way toooo many new riders don't know the past "Masters" of the sport, Binda, Bartali, Coppi, Delgado, Campagnolo, Merckx, Christophe {MY personal hero}, etc etc etc. None ever even heard of the Ghisallo chapel in Italy, Nuestra Señora de Dorleta in Spain, nor any REAL history of the sport. Keep bringing on the history lessons!
+Willem Niehorster…..absolutely! “The Gypsy” or “Monsieur Paris-Roubaix” as he was known - and the famous blue bikes - deserve a mention! [see my earlier posts].
Willem Niehorster exactly!Gios in his kobalt blue color with white decals,with Campa super record ,branded campa seatpost and branded Cinelli stem one of the best italian race bikes of that time!
Any bike manufacturer founded in 1906 and still going today is iconic. They have a grand history and are still used today. The name itself means "Long Live Italy", whats not iconic about that when talking about Italian bike makers?
The Carrera-Podium workshop was founded in 1989 by former professional rider and Carrera team manager Davide Boifava. The brand was born from the needs of the Carrera Team and its champions Steven Roche, Claudio Chiappucci and Marco Pantani. The workshop had a unique synergy because the professional team worked from the same building and the team riders were built in product testers. The Carrera bicycle brand has a rich history of over 500 victories in the most demanding road races in Europe. Many firsts were achieved at Podium such as the first frame in which aluminum was joined to carbon and the first custom on size carbon frame made in Italy. They were among the first to build titanium frame for professional racing and the use of ceramical aluminum to improve the comfort of aluminum racing bikes
Second that. Lots of people get the Carrera brand in the UK mixed up with Carrera Podium. The UK Carrera bikes aren’t anything spectacular, but the Carrera Podium bikes are excellent. I came into ownership of a late 90’s Carrera Podium originally owned by my grandfather. Incredible Italian steel frame with Dura Ace from top to bottom. Built like a tank and comes in at under 19lbs. A ton of fun to ride.
In my small collection I have a Pinarello , Bianchi , Colnago and a Gios. But the Colnago is not cool because it is a carbon frame where the others are steel framed works of art
I have a beautiful red aluminum framed Casati bought at Geoffrey Butler in Croydon in 1999 or 2000. These bikes, made in Monza, were imported exclusively by Butlers, so I understand. The only other one I have ever seen was in Northern Italy on the road around Lake Como! Of course Monza is in that general region. I never see them mentioned anywhere so it would be nice to learn more about their heritage. All I know is that mine, with the now discontinued Campagnolo Daytona groupset still feels fabulous on the road. Great vid as always, guys. Your channel has been a revelation! ruclips.net/video/HvTHp8p4wos/видео.html
Yes! there is some interesting lore out there about the relationship between ciocc, colnago, and some others that I'd enjoy if someone could dive into and find out how much of it is true
uh... matt... seems that a few other brands are weighty in relevance too, like the obviously missing De Rosa (mentioned as a rider in this segment, and who's frames were integral in Merckx's racing and later frame development), but also brands Cinelli, Wilier, Bottechia, and Olmo. I'd think that Columbus could bear fair mention with their technological support of all these companies development too...?
Great show. Thank you! I was hoping to see Wilier included among the four, but since you let me down this time, can you cover it in the near future? I’ll keep watching, though, so no pressure...
Oh, would also be cool to see a story on the lesser known Italian bike brands. Was in Italy recently, and walked into a bike shop. There were a lot of very NICE looking bikes, but I've never seen those brands before. Was wondering if they were actually good or not.
Let us know which Italian bicycle brands you'd like to see in our next video in the comments below 👇
Giant bicycles
Masi, Alan and Somec
How about a Japanese cycling companies video? Think Panasonic, Fuji, Bridgestone, Nishiki, etc.
chintamani kelkar not Italian
Global Cycling Network Cinelli, Cinelli, Cinelli.
De Rosa. The man who built bikes for Eddy Merckx as well as teaching him to build bikes.
here here De Rosa please
I have to agree. I thought for sure De Rosa would've been one of the four.
Casati, Cinelli, Olmo, Bottecchia
All of the above plus Masi!!!
And Tomassini ...
Cinelli(!!!), De Rosa, Wilier
I was a NYC bicycle messenger and learned a about road & track bikes. Atala, masi, fragis,corso,and a host of sort after frames, forks and groupos, zeus, gimepi, camping, I own a Fuji track bike today. I had fun and meet a lot of interesting people made a lot of friendships that are still bonded. I thank God for all it.
I simply cannot believe Cinelli didn’t make the list. I believe this is on purpose, though, saving brands for a follow-up video. Cinelli was the biggest omission, among DeRosa, Willier and Gios, to name a few.
Matt Stephens looking forward to see that one as well!
I raced a Benotto in the 80's as a schoolboy. Fantastic bike with so much character.
Benotto all the way. I still have my Modelo 850.
So good! If there was more space, I feel Cinelli would of course deserve to be here, as well as De Rosa, but I think Tomasso, Somec, Tomassini, and Chesini could be here as well, despite being much less well-known!
Absolutely LOVE my Oltre XR4! After buying my first Italian bike, I can't imagine going back to the world of Trek, Specialized, and Giant, anymore. My next bike will be the Colnago C60 replacement or Wilier Cento Air Romato.
Joe Joe Take the Cento!!!
Joe Joe I ride an infinito, I also would love a Colnago next.
De Rosa, Ciocc, Basso, Bottecchia would be fun. Thanks for doing this! Can we get more pics of the bikes during the story telling?
My first real bike was a steel Ciocc, complete with the eggshell to royal blue paint fade, stamped cutouts and chrome in all the right places. When I wasn't riding it I was staring at it. I feel the same way about the carbon DeRosa that I ride now. If you were to do a second feature I'd love to see those two iconic brands included.
A Bianchi in Celeste has always been my dream bike
Of course paired with Campy everything
Cinelli
Xander van Heeringen surprised not to see Cinelli not mentioned.
I bought an Atala bike around 1977, from a bike shop on Staten Island. The owner wanted to get rid of itso bad he said he'd give me my wife's bike for half price if I'd buy it. I ended up with 2 bikes for around $200. That Atala was beautiful, Campagnolo derailleur, a beautiful white, with red and green accents...I loved that beauty.
WOW!!! Impressive. For Italian iconic brands, you can now pretty much do vol.2,3,4 and 5 at least I'd reckon.
I just built a Colnago President with a Campagnolo Record groupset and Eurus wheels. All the major components including the frameset were purchased second-hand off eBay. It’s old school now but in my view it’s still a fantastic bicycle that I plan to keep forever.
What about Masi? Or Guerciotti?
In the early 1970s in the California bicycle racing scene, it seemed that Masi and Cinelli were the two bikes that everyone want to own. I waited three months for my 1971 Masi Gran Criterium and still have it and ride it to this day. I would love to see Masi and Cinelli profiled.
TOMMASINI
That’s the great thing about GCN...from the latest tech to history lessons...brilliant thanks
De Rosa.
Informative & historic. Nothing finer than Italian bicycles.
Wilier, Legnano, Bianchi, De Rosa, and Colnago are my favorites
Legnano is a living legend!
Matt, that was a crazy-good review! Maybe you can do a similar show on the iconic component companies: Campagnolo, Shimano etc., . Or maybe the iconic tire companies: Michelin, Continental, etc., Or maybe the history of cycling countries? Or, or, or... Please.
would love to see a video on the history of cycling countries in particular maybe also include some famous routes
Super Strada yes!!! Please do that!!!!
Great seeing Matt back! Guerciotti holds a place in my soul as does the much smaller Canadian company Marinoni. I still use my 1982 Guerciotti on rollers.
The relatively big Names Wilier and De Rosa are missing. Among the smallermones, how about casati, masi, basso, gios and tommasini
the video is called 4 iconic brands not 6 or 12
Simon Rano Well it could have been 6 or 12. It was great already, but ignoring Wilier and De Rosa, two brands of rich history that are still in business and that a recent cyclist could thus relate to, seems to be a mistake.
Anyway, perhaps will those be covered in a other video ?
Basso is a pretty interesting one. possibly the most gorgeous bikes of the 80s as well
Paletti if I may add.
@@simonrano8072
Or iconic Italian bicicletti.
WILIER, a BIKE with a political statement in the bikes’ name!
That was very good, would like to hear about Cinelli next time. Thanks
You should be mentioning the De Bernardi Bicycle Company because De Bernardi was the Engineer for the Legnano Bike Company.
Your choices were all great, especially Legnano - and you even pronounced Bartali correctly this time! How about something on De Rosa and Cinelli?
i love GCN, their presenters are so easy and nice to listen to and their video's are informative and diverse. beste sports channel on the web
Ever hear of Dacordi? I had a 50th anniversary edition back in 1988-89 on Sicily! I also had 2 Olmo bikes with C Record!
I think it is impossible for anyone to watch and listen to your videos and not become instantly a fan of cycling.
In my view, you master a rare talent of making your audiences want to watch more and more of your presentations.
I think it would be very interesting if you could upload a video of yours commenting on Raleigh bicycles (used to have one, some fifty years ago, as a teenager).
Thank you so much.
That was fascinating. Thank you for the history lesson
bajki najutubie
Would love to hear about Fondriest, De Rosa, and Casati, thanks.
Thanks for making this, really enjoyed the history.
Willier please!!
We need more of this history videos. It is always fun to learn more about the best sport on the planet.
It would be cool to extend the list and include more iconic brands like Willier and Basso.
you guys should go to Ghisallo and do an episode inside the museum and in the chapel, there's so much to see there for cycling enthusiasts
"Raising the bar..." We don't like raised bars. Slam them, slam them all!
Gios and Basso must be in the running for a mention...
I have always had this love for colnagos, don’t know why.
Btw, riding Italian bikes without campagnolo should be a crime
Niels Heldens
I love the Shimano Group San on my Pinarello. If it is good enough for Team Sky, it is good enough for me.
Rick Snyder yeah, but riding with a shimano group set on an Italian bike is like wearing socks over regular shoes - it works but it just isn’t right.
Niels Heldens
I understand this point of view. However, I would like to invite you to join the 21rst century ;). I love Italian frames but have only ridden Shimano. I love the buttery smooth shifts and sure braking.
When I was getting into cycling many years ago, I really wanted Campy on my Bottecchia. My local bike shop advised me to stay clear of the Campy mid-range and suggested that the Shimano was a far superior Group San. So, I consider the crime to be that Campy allowed their mid range groupo to be outdone by Shimano.
Rick Snyder "I love the buttery smooth shifts and sure breaking." I commend you for your honesty!
Haha, I would love to blame spell check but it is my own bad typing. I meant braking....... I have had good luck so far with my Group San.
Wilier? 100 odd years old too...
Rossin (I own a classic Ghibli), Ciöcc, Serena...
Great job, thanks Matt
Thanks so much for the bike brand history. You forgot; Fondreist, DeRosa, Guerciotti, Abici, and Ciocc. I love to learn about cycling history. How about a video on some famous french bikes? Please keep it coming.
christdragon yes!!!!
Great clip! Thank you very much! 🇮🇹
British, Russian, African and American bike brands (not all one video of course) maybe a bikes of the world segment, each episode a different country. Exploring the cycling trends and accomplishments with in.
Weston Schott
Agree. Some great US brands: Moots; Merlin; Independent Fabrication to name but three.
Weston Schott I agree~ All the major countries have a brand or three that are competent in their own right!-)
African??????????? Fc me
Great video Matt, some fascinating insights into the history of such classic bikes.
Love your channel, really, I do! Just one small criticism. You pronounce certain brands wrongly. Most commonly Campagnolo and other Italian names that incluge "gn". It is pronounced Campañolo (with the spanish n as an example). The "G" is always silent in Italian words containing "GN" and N is always Ñ.
I hope I didn't cross the line here. Respect!
I think you might just have had your big toe over the line.
THANK YOU for explaining the pronunciation! I do the same with "Adidas" and "Michangelo" (and others) - that are SO mispronounced (!!!) it's "ADEE-das" and "MICK-uh-ang-yoo-low".
Also, Miguel Indurain's name is not pronounced "Migwell Inn-du--ran". It's "Mig-ell In -du - rhein".
@@PyroSax actually it's Adidas. Accent is on the first A. It's a German brand. Stems from the owner's name Adolf Dassler. Adi is the nickname for Adolf. So, Adi Das. English speaking folk think it's adEEdas. It's wrong.
@@PyroSax I don't know what Michangelo stands for. Michelangelo, on the other hand is an Italian sculptor and artist. It's pronounced Meekelangelo.
and all that in one take! i'm impressed!!
Where is wilier?
In Nove, Italy.
loved this and thanks for sharing. probably one of the few videos on youtube i watched the whole thing without skipping forward :-)
I would like to see the best of Japanese bicycles.
PS: DeRosa should have been included on this video.
We've got more Japanese videos to come, stay tuned!
@@gcn colnago made carbon frames in the 80's I know I rode one
Those steel bikes were beautiful. Don’t know anything about them. Had no idea there were so many iconic Italian brands. I obviously know little about this type of cycling. I’m a recent (downhill) mountain biker. Have taken to it like a duck to water. It’s such a great summer bookend to fairly extreme downhill skiing. My first love. With that said there is little elegance to great downhill bikes. Those steel road bikes ooze beauty and elegance. Thank you for this vid.
Tell the story about the great Gios Torino and Roger de Vleaming. I love the italian branch today - a dad and son shop i Torino.
THANK YOU!! LOVE cycling history!! Way toooo many new riders don't know the past "Masters" of the sport, Binda, Bartali, Coppi, Delgado, Campagnolo, Merckx, Christophe {MY personal hero}, etc etc etc. None ever even heard of the Ghisallo chapel in Italy, Nuestra Señora de Dorleta in Spain, nor any REAL history of the sport. Keep bringing on the history lessons!
Basso
Totally engaging, well done Matt
Tell the story of Gios Torino and de Vlaeminck!
Willem Niehorster - I second that!!
Willem Niehorster I third that
+Willem Niehorster…..absolutely! “The Gypsy” or “Monsieur Paris-Roubaix” as he was known - and the famous blue bikes - deserve a mention! [see my earlier posts].
Willem Niehorster exactly!Gios in his kobalt blue color with white decals,with Campa super record ,branded campa seatpost
and branded Cinelli stem one of the best italian race bikes of that time!
Congratulations! Beautifully documented. So happy my bike was included, a Legnano Roma ( I think) with the world and Olympic stickers.
Tomassinni are the prettiest
Super great video.
I like these mini documentaries. How about iconic brands of other nations? This would make for a great series of videos.
Great bit of information..
Cheers.
Olmo please. Perhaps a special now they are bank from the brink?
Great History about Italians bikes
What happened to Wilier?
What's so iconic about them? How many historical accounts of wonderfulness did they help create?
Any bike manufacturer founded in 1906 and still going today is iconic. They have a grand history and are still used today. The name itself means "Long Live Italy", whats not iconic about that when talking about Italian bike makers?
Will Skills my sentiment exactly!!!
Awesome cycling brief on history's greats and names that cyclist can learn of to memory
Wot no Wilier Triestina😥☹️
beutiful video TY
F.Moser, De Rosa, Ciocc
Great video, I really like it. Congratulations GCN.
What about old Italien brand Olympia. Please test the 799 or one of the Olympia other great bikes😍
www.olympiacicli.it/it/
This would be a good series to do for other countries too.
Btw, I felt sure Wilier would be in there😔
nice to see you started with the best. Bianchi!!!
Nigel Crane it used to be the best however Bianchi has gone downhill now that it is made in China.
Chinarello, Bianchina, Chinaelli
Carrera (Pantani, Chiapucci...)
Carrera - of Pantani and Chiapucci fame - was a jeans brand. There is an Italian bike manufacturer called Carrera also but not very famous.
The Carrera-Podium workshop was founded in 1989 by former professional rider and Carrera team manager Davide Boifava. The brand was born from the needs of the Carrera Team and its champions Steven Roche, Claudio Chiappucci and Marco Pantani. The workshop had a unique synergy because the professional team worked from the same building and the team riders were built in product testers. The Carrera bicycle brand has a rich history of over 500 victories in the most demanding road races in Europe. Many firsts were achieved at Podium such as the first frame in which aluminum was joined to carbon and the first custom on size carbon frame made in Italy. They were among the first to build titanium frame for professional racing and the use of ceramical aluminum to improve the comfort of aluminum racing bikes
Second that. Lots of people get the Carrera brand in the UK mixed up with Carrera Podium. The UK Carrera bikes aren’t anything spectacular, but the Carrera Podium bikes are excellent. I came into ownership of a late 90’s Carrera Podium originally owned by my grandfather. Incredible Italian steel frame with Dura Ace from top to bottom. Built like a tank and comes in at under 19lbs. A ton of fun to ride.
In my small collection I have a Pinarello , Bianchi , Colnago and a Gios. But the Colnago is not cool because it is a carbon frame where the others are steel framed works of art
Wilier, the best italian brand.
That was awesome. Great idea. Great execution.
I have a beautiful red aluminum framed Casati bought at Geoffrey Butler in Croydon in 1999 or 2000. These bikes, made in Monza, were imported exclusively by Butlers, so I understand. The only other one I have ever seen was in Northern Italy on the road around Lake Como! Of course Monza is in that general region. I never see them mentioned anywhere so it would be nice to learn more about their heritage. All I know is that mine, with the now discontinued Campagnolo Daytona groupset still feels fabulous on the road. Great vid as always, guys. Your channel has been a revelation!
ruclips.net/video/HvTHp8p4wos/видео.html
Fantastic! Thank you.
Cio"cc !
Yes! there is some interesting lore out there about the relationship between ciocc, colnago, and some others that I'd enjoy if someone could dive into and find out how much of it is true
Outstanding episode. Can you tell us more about De Rosa?
campanolo
enrique carrion: But Campagnolo never made a full machine!
uh... matt... seems that a few other brands are weighty in relevance too, like the obviously missing De Rosa (mentioned as a rider in this segment, and who's frames were integral in Merckx's racing and later frame development), but also brands Cinelli, Wilier, Bottechia, and Olmo. I'd think that Columbus could bear fair mention with their technological support of all these companies development too...?
Battaglin..!?
Kevin Wilkinson yea awsome machine ,steven roche
full dinamix,only gravel bike now
I have one '87 . Smooth ride beatifull machine
Great brand indeed 👍
Great show. Thank you! I was hoping to see Wilier included among the four, but since you let me down this time, can you cover it in the near future? I’ll keep watching, though, so no pressure...
Can you do a winter training vid please
British or Canadian winter?
there are like 20 of them including 4 on clothing and 3 on cornering on wet road...
Oh, would also be cool to see a story on the lesser known Italian bike brands. Was in Italy recently, and walked into a bike shop. There were a lot of very NICE looking bikes, but I've never seen those brands before. Was wondering if they were actually good or not.
How about Wilier?
I love those Legnano green pyjamas!! Other Italian brands I can think of are De Rosa and Olmo.
you forgot Wilier
I have a wilier, absolutely amazing
I want to hear about Look! I haven’t seen them in the pro teams for the last several years - what happened?
You did clearly not look at Chris Anker Sørensens bike in 2017
French bike.
Will be great if GCN make more videos like this but introducing brands from different continents, like those from north america, rest of europe, etc.
bottecchia, cipolini,
I liked so much. THANK YOU FROM SPAIN